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[Anonymous No.15199915]

>murder is bad

[Anonymous No.15199947]

>>15199915
Murder is a tool. It is not intrinsically good or bad. Same goes for genocide.

[Anonymous No.15199965]

>>15199947
Yes. And rape.

[Anonymous No.15199980]

>>15199965
Rape is intrinsically bad.

[Anonymous No.15199987]

>>15199980

[Anonymous No.15200005]

>>15199987
Not an argument.

[Anonymous No.15200029]

>not an argument

[Anonymous No.15200030]

>>15200005
What if you rape a rapist? Is that like rape2 or more like half a rape? In terms of being bad

[Anonymous No.15200035]

>>15200029
imagine being as obsessed as the person who made that picture

[Anonymous No.15200044]

>imagine being as obsessed as the person who made that picture

[Anonymous No.15200048]

>>15200030
Rape debases the practitioner and the victim. Read more Evola.

[Anonymous No.15200056]

>>15200035
this is you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXWqSZ5ILkc

[Anonymous No.15200062]

>>15200035
not an argument. now get off my board

[Anonymous No.15200063]

>>15199915
>bad
you must be 18 or above to post here

[Anonymous No.15200075]

>>15200044
You seem obsessed too. I bet you have a huge folder entitled 'soiboys' which you look at every day just to confirm your self-worth.

[Anonymous No.15200077]

>>15199980
It's completely culturally constructed, as is the emotional response to it. It occurs throughout the animal kingdom (ducks are notorious for it, weirdly enough). Do you think it's worse than murder? Torture? Can you list something worse than rape?

[Anonymous No.15200079]

>>15200063
It just needs some framing.

>good - leads to self actualization
>bad - leads away from self actualization

[Anonymous No.15200086]

>>15200048
How does rape debase someone more than say, taking their land by force?

[Anonymous No.15200087]

>>15200035
>>15200075
>Soiboys aren't real dude!! You're just schizophrenic!

[Anonymous No.15200091]

>>15200087
Maybe they are but why are you obsessed?

[Anonymous No.15200093]

>>15200075

[Anonymous No.15200094]

>>15200086
I don't know about you but I'd rather get my house repossessed than be raped. Kind of thought that would uncontroversial

[Anonymous No.15200095]

>>15200077
>>15200086
The debasement is not just physical. In the act of rape, you reduce the victim to an object, and you yourself, debase yourself to an animal. Same can be true for murder, etc, if there is no greater purpose behind it.

[Anonymous No.15200103]

>Maybe they are but why are you obsessed?

[Anonymous No.15200115]

>>15200095
This describes literally every economic transaction

[Anonymous No.15200117]

>>15200094
Really? 1 quick little peepee in the booty hole vs losing something that might have take 20 years of your life? Interesting how much importance you place on that. Almost like it's a culturally constructed overreaction.

[Anonymous No.15200122]

>>15200115
Which is why we are in the Kali Yuga.

[Anonymous No.15200129]

>>15200117
You can make some decent money as gay prostitute if you're still young

[Anonymous No.15200130]

>Stop pointing out my basedeness!!
>Don't listen to him he is schizophrenic, he's seeing those "soiboys" in his head I'm not a soiboy! He's just schizophrenic, I'm not a soiboy soiboys arent real!

[Anonymous No.15200134]

>>15200095
So there's nothing special about the act of rape then? What if I'm using it as a tool of glorious conquest? Evola loved War. Rape is a time-honored tool in the destruction of the enemy. Ask Ghengis about it.

[Anonymous No.15200143]

>>15200134
Just about everything you posted in inaccurate and based off of misinformation, including the thing about Genghis.

[Anonymous No.15200145]

>>15200129
So your solution is to voluntarily give up the house, then rent your booty out to get another one, instead of a little one-time struggle snuggle?

[Anonymous No.15200152]

>You have schizophrenia doctor said so hehe
>Hehe this is it my soibros now noone will belive him when he call us soiboys(which we are). A24 good.

[Anonymous No.15200153]

>>15200143
And what would be you’re counter argument if I just raped you?

[Anonymous No.15200160]

>>15200153
You are no better than a monkey.

[Anonymous No.15200164]

>>15200143
Really? It's misinformation that rape is often used in war? That's news to me. You might want to let the Germans in Berlin after the war know that. Or the people in Nanking.

[Anonymous No.15200165]

>>15200145
No way am I selling my ass I'm suggesting you do it sense you've already got a figure you be raped for

[Anonymous No.15200167]

>What? What the fuck is wrong with you lately dude?
>You're fucking scaring me man

[Anonymous No.15200172]

>>15200160
I wish I could rape you right now

[Anonymous No.15200176]

>>15200164
>quote “recorded” over 100 years after his death

[Anonymous No.15200180]

>>15200103
>>15200130
>>15200152
This is funny keep going

[Anonymous No.15200196]

>We are not "soiboys". We just want to help you. Please listen.

[Anonymous No.15200197]

>>15200176
Doesn't matter, I just like the quote, & it's really irrelevant to the point being made. Are you seriously going to claim that warriors pillaging the lands of their conquered foes didn't commonly enjoy the other spoils of war they found? Lmao, sure thing. See what undue importance you place on it? Oh sure, killing & torture - that you accept (and I'd argue that those are far worse), but a little No means Yes is too much?

[Anonymous No.15200208]

>>15200165
>Understanding that rape isn't the end of the world means you should be a prostitute.
That makes literally no sense, but Ok.

[Anonymous No.15200215]

>he called me soiboy(which I am) so I'm going to ruin his life, concince everyone his crazy and obsessively gangstalk him for revenge.

[Anonymous No.15200214]

>>15200117
it's because taking a dick is an act of submission it is the worst kind of humiliation possible

[Anonymous No.15200225]

>YOU ARE SCHIZOPHRENEIA

[Anonymous No.15200226]

>>15199915
>one can murder without killing
>one can die without dying

[Anonymous No.15200232]

>>15200197
The rapers still become animals. It’s also not a Great War strategy; the Siege of Magdeburg, where Catholics raped and murdered Protestant women, just inspired the Protestants to become even more viscous and willing to repel the Catholics. It would not surprise me if the Deluge was partly fueled by Swedish Protestant resentment (which ended up killing about 30%+ of Poland and destroyed most of their castles.)

>spoils of war
This happened, but they were put into marriages (often forced), but this is not the same as raping someone during war time and discarding them/killing them.

Lastly, just because something is common doesn’t make it good. There was an old saying back in the Mongol days that went something like “If a nude woman walked by the Mongol forces, not a single one would break ranks;” which just illustrates that personal master leads to greater triumph in battle.

[Anonymous No.15200234]

>Oh my god why me, my son, why?!

[Anonymous No.15200244]

>>15200214
Oh, and having your property & life's work taken isn't? See - it's entirely culturally constructed. It's been raised to this level of absolute metaphysical evil by the culture, when it's really not the worst thing that could happen at all.

[Anonymous No.15200248]

>>15200234
Is this OP's way of confessing he's a schizophrenic murderer?

[Anonymous No.15200250]

>NOOOOO I'M NOT A SOIBOY YOU'RE JUST A SCHIZOPHRENIC, NOO DON'T LEAVE YOU HAVE TO SEE A DOCTOR!!

[Anonymous No.15200256]

Blessed thread.

[Anonymous No.15200260]

>WHY YES I'M THE DOCTOR SIT DOWN

[Anonymous No.15200266]

>>15200244
Again you're talking like someone that would trick himself out. A house is just a house you're kind of cucked if you even buy one

[Anonymous No.15200271]

>>15200244
I don't think that it's culturally constructed, often dominant chips will rape inferior chips of the same gender, the act of penetration is inherently an act of domination.
Now concepts such as property and work are socially constructed.

[Anonymous No.15200273]

>S-soiboys? I-I'm a soiboy?? You are schizophrenia!!!

[Anonymous No.15200278]

kek

[Anonymous No.15200282]

>*gangstalks you*

[Anonymous No.15200283]

>>15200030
>What if you rape a rapist?
Murdering a murderer is wrong, but executing him or her is right, because the state should have a monopoly on violence.
Raping a rapist is wrong too, but a paid executioner inserting a metal bar in the rapist's anus is right.

[Anonymous No.15200297]

>>15200232
>Forced marriage
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that still counts as rape. And while it certainly can breed resentment - it also breeds mutts that are the end of your enemies line. It's a final insult & a warning to others. Look at the effects of the Turks on Greece for example. Used as a systematic tool of genocide, among other strategies, it seems effective enough. If you're already killing & torturing them, why would rape up the ante as far as resistance goes? This all just sounds like modern sensibilities being used to reinterpret past events using the morality of today.

No idea about the Mongols abstaining due to "personal mastery", which sounds suspiciously like a projection of Christian ethics, but I'll take your word for it.

[Anonymous No.15200303]

Shut the fuck up nerds and post more epic sojaks.

[Anonymous No.15200306]

>not the friggin doggo!! Yoh did it!!! You!! You heckin monster!! Fucking sicko!! Don't you get near me!!

[Anonymous No.15200309]

>>15200266
>Doesn't own any assets or property.
Ok, I see. You're a poorfag & a cuck. Explains it.

>>15200271
It's obviously an act of domination. So is my claiming of property. Chimps also take territory, do they not? As do most animals ml sounds like its just another natural behaviour that you're projecting your socially constructed values onto.

[Anonymous No.15200315]

>>15200306
OK, this isn’t based. Dogs and whites co-evolved along side each other. We whites have more in common neurologically with dogs than niggers. Killing a dog is not only betraying nature, it’s betraying your race.

[Anonymous No.15200318]

>>15200303
>>15200297
>>15200283
>>15200278
>>15200271

[Anonymous No.15200325]

>OK, this isn’t based. Dogs and whites co-evolved along side each other. We whites have more in common neurologically with dogs than niggers. Killing a dog is not only betraying nature, it’s betraying your race.

[Anonymous No.15200327]

>>15200309
>So is my claiming of property. Chimps also take territory, do they not?
Yes but it is based on strenght, you on the other hand are conditioned to "respect" the property of those who are physically inferior to you.

[Anonymous No.15200334]

>>15200297
You are posting even more misinformation. Greeks have no East Eurasian genetic markers, which would indicate Turkish ancestry. On the contrary, the Ottoman Turks brought in a bunch of foreign people’s, even allowed them to breed with their women (barely any Turks have Turkish haplogroups anymore.) The transmission of “Turkishness” has more to due with language, such as with Pomaks, which is why the custom of taking brides of conquered people was the popular strategy.

>breeding mutts
If your city got mostly massacred (prior to the modern era), and a woman got raped, she is going to die, be it of disease or famine.

>still counts as rape
I acknowledged that, but you would be providing for them, which makes the dynamics different.

[Anonymous No.15200335]

>>15200248
Seems so, or larping as one

[Anonymous No.15200343]

>>15199980
But I thought there was no objective morality?

[Anonymous No.15200350]

>>15200343
Everything is a spook except for racism and feminism and trannyism.

[Anonymous No.15200358]

>>15200327
No I don't. If I try to take it & I'm caught, I'll be punished, and in the current age that's almost certain (try just killing a home owner & taking it). I don't have intrinsic "respect" for their "rights" or something. Again, that's all just modern, socially constructed values. Spooks. Might makes Right - the might of the cops is what restrains me, not "respect".

[Anonymous No.15200372]

>>15200334
>Turkish rape babies never happened!
My sides lmao.

>The dynamics are different
So if I capture a woman & keep her in my dungeon as a sex slave, it's better if I feed her? Well, I mean I guess?

[Anonymous No.15200383]

>>15200358
>the might of the cops is what restrains me
so you have been conditioned to fear an action because it often has negative consequences.
and you will also get conditioned to get dicked and accept it, maybe even deconstruct it to feel less humiliated by the act

[Anonymous No.15200397]

>>15200372
>Turkish rape babies never happened!
Yeah, because the slave trade was what the Ottoman Empire ran off of. If you rape your merchandise, you fuck up the value. They actually would hire Albanian irregulars if they wanted to have a population raped and tortured. The standard Ottoman troops never did this. Even as late as the Armenian Genocide, they out outsourced to Kurdish irregulars to commit the atrocities.

Also, genetic evidence completely refutes your claim.

>So if I capture a woman...
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15200398]

>>15200383
No no no, you said "respect". No moving the goal posts - my doing something or not based on a gun to my head is a VERY different thing to my passive acceptance of some taught value.

[Anonymous No.15200404]

You again?
>>15200306
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/Yoh/page/1/
>>15200225
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/1564759543413.png/

[Anonymous No.15200415]

>>15200397
I really don't care enough to even argue about the roaches specifically raping or outsourcing it to kurds. If you really want to pretend rape babies aren't a thing to suit your moral narrative, that's all you.

[Anonymous No.15200425]

>>15200415
Not him but you pose no arguments at all and just deny facts. Try not coping.

[Anonymous No.15200428]

Where can I find poetry or prose with this aesthetic?

“ O Mother Sweet mother
Send your child unto me
For the sins of the unworthy
Must be baptized
In blood and fear

Gather your bones
Your heart, skull and tomes
Gather all—to me

Bring your circle of lights
In the dead of the night
At the witching, you'll call to me....

Sweet Nightshade bleeds
On an edge, cold and clean
It will drink in the wine of the dead

O Mother, sweet mother
Send your child unto me
O Sithis takes all in the kiss...of death
O Mother Sweet mother
Send your child unto me
For the sins of the unworthy
Must be baptized
In blood and fear"

[Anonymous No.15200434]

>>15200415
I said war rape did happen, such as with the 30 years war. All I am saying is that it was not as common as you think. The reason the 30 years war had so much rape was because the armies were poorly managed. Better managed armies, such as the Ottomans, had little to none.

[Anonymous No.15200441]

>>15200434
Shut the fuck up, dirty fucking roach scum.

[Anonymous No.15200456]

>>15200441
I’m not Turkish, nor am I even Greek. Lol

[Anonymous No.15200583]

>>15200398
lol valuing property is a taught value, cuck. By your logic you'd be ok to get gang raped for some money.