/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15197125]

What are some books the Pope doesn't want you to read?

[Anonymous No.15197172]

>>15197125
The current Pope? Probably the encyclicals written by the Popes before him

[Anonymous No.15197180]

The Bible
Calvin's Institutes
Luther's Commentary on Galatians

[Anonymous No.15197184]

>>15197172
Cope. The Pope is infallible but that doesn't mean he has to be consistent

[Anonymous No.15197188]

Wonder what Francis thinks of The Grand Inquisitor.

[Anonymous No.15197201]

The gnostic texts.

[Anonymous No.15197244]

>>15197125
Borges

[Anonymous No.15197254]

>>15197188
He's probably read him. All the popes of the last 200 or so years have been very /lit/, Francis included.

In particular, being from Argentina, Francis is a big fan of Borges. He supposedly actually met Borges once, when he was a young priest teaching literature at a university. Francis has also directly quoted Borges in one of his apostolic exhortations.

[Anonymous No.15197262]

imagine if they elected a young pope

[Anonymous No.15197267]

Since I have what they call a Jesuit education and the Pope is a Jesuit, I should read everything.
Q.E.D.

[Anonymous No.15197315]

>>15197180
Protestantism falls by its own premises. You don't need to read all of that to be convinced of anything, it only will work if you're theologically ignorant. Scott Han, Seraphim Rose and many others proof that knowledgeable Protestants are an oxymoron: or they aren't knowledgeable or they end up becoming Catholics/orthodox.

[Anonymous No.15197393]

>>15197254
The million dollar question is whether he agrees with the Inquisitor or not.

[Anonymous No.15198934]

>>15197262

[Anonymous No.15199088]

>>15198934
god this show was so obnoxious

[Anonymous No.15199107]

has anyone read this? it's one of the first books pope Francis recommended.

>>15197254
he's also a fan of Leon Bloy

[Anonymous No.15199110]

>>15199088
it was like that on purpose

[Anonymous No.15199134]

>>15199110
probably, but got to a point where it was just unpleasant to watch. Especially their second series, its like they tried to outdo themselves with each level of degeneracy, half the cardinals are gay and fuck each other at least once an episode, the Pope is also implied as having been a gay lover of one of the cardinals, it was all just cringe worthy

[Anonymous No.15199169]

>>15199134
they went completely downhill in the 2nd season. all that bullshit filler with cloistered nuns living in a common room as old infirmaries. what a nonsense. not to mention the new pope who is complete cringe

[Anonymous No.15199300]

>Pope Francis
So aside from all the tradcath/antitradcath memeing, is Francis actually based or cringe? Is he a genuine Christian?

[Anonymous No.15199305]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_Librorum_Prohibitorum

guys, they had a list of banned books. and the index did not include atheist texts, because that everything non-catholic is seen as haram goes without saying for these men. imagine not having a faith weak enough to be endangered by Schopenietzscher.

[Anonymous No.15199555]

>>15199169
Yeah whole of the writing for the new Pope's character consisted of cryptic pseudo-intellectual platitudes and a weak attempt at sophistication. Not only that but his accent was just awful and unconvincing, sounded like a poor American impersonation rather than a convincing performance - not to mention his entire character essentially being a walking personification of every bland English stereotype of the American writers (particularly when he only choses to accept becoming Pope when he hears that the cardinals were going to elect a Frenchman instead - the writing really can't get anymore crude and unsophisticated than this I think)

[Anonymous No.15199560]

>>15197184
Even when there's multiple popes they're all still infallible?

[Anonymous No.15199566]

>>15199560
Yes. Consistency is not Godly

[Anonymous No.15199572]

>>15197125
The King James Bible.

[Anonymous No.15199593]

>>15199169
You didn't finish the season. Last 3 episodes were great.

[Anonymous No.15199609]

>>15199593
i didn't. i didnt get past the 3rd episode

[Anonymous No.15199682]

>>15197180
>The Bible
>literally read in every single celebration of the RCC
kek

[Anonymous No.15199703]

>>15197262
Pope John Paul II was fairly young when elected, and many higher clerics disliked this, since his pontificate lasted too much for them. He had a huge mark on the church, which can be criticized, wether you liked him or not.

>>15199305
that was long ago and in a different context. I bet a library worm like B XVI would have hated the Index a lot.

[Anonymous No.15199731]

>>15199703
>the Vatican Index for banned books was long ago and in a different context
60 years is NOT a long time. And the context of banning books is, was, and will be freedom of the mind. Catholics lack christianity.

[Anonymous No.15199767]

>>15199731
I find it more complex than that. Many people that were prosecuted by the Inquisition would later be canonized (i.e. Saint John of the Cross), Saint Ignatius of Loyola had some problems in the begginign of his religious life. Some church officials regarded him as "enlightened weirdo" and tried to stop him from teaching. You shoul db e able to differenciate between the church-institution and the Church-People of God, without falling into extremism.

Any human institution can be corruptible. the same way that the Orthodox church canonized the last Tsar (who didn't have an exemplary life) or the same way Christian churches helped in the genocide of Native North Americans, or the witch-burning by protestans throughout the centuries.

[Anonymous No.15199789]

>>15199300
He’s based. Laudato Si is the most anti-modern encyclical since Pascendi and Querida Amazonia is v /lit/.
https://sancrucensis.wordpress.com/2015/06/19/a-magnificent-a-wonderful-encyclical/

[Anonymous No.15199814]

>>15199703
Didn't John Paul II fast track loads of Saint canonisations? I remember that being controversial. Makes you question the claim that saints are only people we know for sure are in heaven, if church officials can disagree and change the requirements. Nevermind the really old saints who got grandfathered in and who we have little evidence for.

[Anonymous No.15199822]

>>15199814
Church makes alot of money selling reliquaries on the down low. If you need funds you need more saints people will only believe someone has so many finger bones

[Anonymous No.15199831]

>>15199822
Sauce?

[Anonymous No.15199867]

>>15199814
Saint John Paul II governed the Church during a time that the Church grew in 2 aspects:
>lay members' lead
Before Vatican Council II, lay people were less influential. Being influential or having followers is always useful to push for an fficial canonization. When a friar dies, his canonization cause will be pushed by his congregation, which can be pretty big. But how many people work for the recognizion of the sainthood of some common person? His family and friends, maybe, in most cases?
After VCII, lay organizations began growing a lot and now they are more influential: Opus Dei, Legion of Mary, Neocathecumenals, CeL, any Lay Fraternity by traditional congregations... More lay infuence = more lay saints officially recognized

>Growth in Asia and Africa
It's a fact that the church is exponentially growing in these continents.
More members of all sorts = more candidates.

[Anonymous No.15199886]

>>15199134
sounds pretty accurate desu

[Anonymous No.15199892]

>>15199134
Yeah the second season was a lot worse. It was just hornier for no real reason, and lost any integral sense of participation in the church. At least Lenny tried to be holy S1.