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>> No.15184468
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>>15184450
1. Capital Volume 1
2. Capital Volume 2
3. Capital Volume 3
4. Theories of Surplus Value
5. Economic manuscripts of 1844

>> No.15184472

>>15184450
>reading 5 non-fiction
you could've read 5 fiction in that time

>> No.15184482

>>15184468
have commies learnt nothing from history?

>> No.15184497

>>15184450
These are the only non-fiction books I've read off the top of my head. I mostly read fiction.
>The Ego and Its Own and Stirner's Critics
>The Man Who Mistook His Wife For a Hat
>Speak, Mnemosyne
>Plato's dialogues: Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Phaedo
>Consider the Lobster and Other Essays by DFW
>Descartes' Meditations
>Dialogue between Philas and Hylonious by Berkeley
>The Strange Death of Europe
>Problems of Philosophy by Russell
>Mythology by the woman whose name escapes me

Currently reading Lingua Latina per se Illustrata: Pars I: Familia Romana if that counts as a non-fiction book. I should read more history but I find it hard to read because all the place names I'm unfamiliar with distract me and make me feel like I'm understanding nothing, which is why I dropped Herodotus' Histories. I should read more philosophy too.

>> No.15184527

>>15184497
>The Strange Death of Europe
Why do you want me out?

>> No.15184552

In no particular order
Capital Vol 1 (unironically)
The New Jim Crow
The Emperor of all Maladies
Manufacturing Consent
Fantasyland

>> No.15184555

>>15184527
Your post is vague and I can only assume you are asking me why I want to kick you out of Europe for being brown. Well, I don't want to kick anyone out personally. I think the people who've come here and built their lives can't simply be asked to leave; that would be immoral. What I would support though is a much stricter immigration policy because I believe the concept of Europe has value and should be preserved.

>> No.15184566

The Accursed Share by Bataille
Violence and the Sacred by Girard
Coma by Guyotat
The Libidinal Economy by Lyotard
Anti-Oedipus by D&G

>> No.15184619

>>15184555
There still people with reason on this board ?

Most based post I have seen in like 2 weeks on here.

>> No.15184625

>>15184555
>concept of Europe has value
values of Europe include not allowing non-white people in its territory?

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>>15184468
>The Khmer Rouge was not communist
>The Khmer Rouge officially renounced communism in 1981

lol

btw, for all the "they wuz CIA" cope pushed about the Khmer Rouge, Maoist China - which leftists passionately defend - were Cambodia's closest allies throughout that period

>> No.15184686

>>15184468
>5. Economic manuscripts of 1844
Incredibly cringe.

>> No.15184717

>>15184625
If a mass ethnic replacement occurs in Europe, Europe as a concept will cease to exist. Perhaps the culture and language will still be vestigially present, but it would no longer be the same place as it is now and as it was throughout history.

>> No.15184748

>>15184717
stop visiting /pol/

>> No.15184785

based monroeposter

>> No.15184825

>>15184748
Not an argument you retard inbred.

>> No.15184831

>>15184482
No they haven't and they never will.

>> No.15184836

>>15184625
Yes.

>> No.15184839

Ecclesiastes
Sayings of the Desert Fathers
Spinoza's Ethics
Of Plymouth Plantation
The C Programming Language 2nd Edition

>> No.15184851

>>15184717
Based retard

>> No.15184862

>>15184851
Kill yourself mongoloid.

>> No.15184874
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Unique and its Property
Tractatus logico philosophicus
Plato (most of his dialogues)
Genealogy of Morals
The Tragic Sense of Life

>> No.15184876

>>15184717
>ethnic replacement
lmao does this mean white people just getting thrown into a woodchipper or something like where tf they going

>> No.15184924
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In no particular order:
>Motivation and Personality - Maslow
>Psychology and Epistemology - Piaget
>On Becoming a Person - Rogers
>A Way of Being - Rogers
>The Tipping Point - Gladwell

>> No.15184937

>>15184825
Not an argument is itself not an argument you stupid faggot. He clearly made an assertion, you can choose to address it or not to address it. To say "not x" when he didn't intend x is the a sign of a faggot. You think you're clever regurgitating the lingo we use here, but you're not. We're fucking lazy

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>>15184468
Yikes

>> No.15184945

>>15184468
Incredibly based, especially referring the theories of surplus value (unofficial volume 4 of Das Kapital), which will predicts what will happen to the economy in the decades to come.

>> No.15184959

>>15184625
Yes, unironically.

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>>15184937
>we're

>> No.15184971

>>15184748
If Japan is replaced with people from Nigeria over a span of 100 years, would it still be Japan? of course not. It's just logic.

>> No.15184982

>>15184971
>If Japan is replaced with people from Nigeria
>If a literal country is replaced by a group of people
>"logic"
please don't stop airing your retardation, its hilarious

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Napoleon in Egypt, Paul Strathern
The Sleepwalkers, Arthur Koestler
Is Paris Burning?, Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre
A Tale of Love and Darkness. Amos Oz
Einstein: His Life and Universe, Walter Isaacson

>> No.15184994

>>15184876
They're not reproducing while non-Europeans are breeding like rabbits. If this continues they will only survive in small communities while the rest looks like Brazil. That's where they're going.

"Of course white people aren't being replaced, I see them everywhere" is the EXACT same argument as "No climate change isn't real because it's literally cold outside."

>> No.15185002

>>15184982
A country is the way it is because of its inhabitants you absolute shit for brains

>> No.15185013

>>15184937
Kill yourself retard.

>> No.15185039

>>15184994
That doesn't mean white people are being "replaced". The white people living in Europe are not disappearing of the face of the earth. Making up a smaller percentage of the population does not meaning they are being "replaced". this is not invasion of the bodysnatchers. You /pol/tards always use the most dumbass inaccurate language in order to push a scary narrative that is nothing but optics.

Also, Europe isn't a "concept", nor is it some fixed unchanging ideal. It is merely a loose collection of countries, there has never been a consistent unifying principle behind it apart from a) free movement of people and b) frictionless trade.

It has nothing to do with race, which I should probably tell you right now, doesn't even exist as a "scientific" category, since all racial differences can be subsumed under an idea of genetic difference anyway. Harping on about "racial replacement" theories just outs you as a backwards moron.

>> No.15185043

>>15184982
Yes Japan is nearly entirely homogeneous, so the country (i.e. the people in it) can be replaced by other people, be it Nigerians, Russians or Chinese. Are you retarded?

>> No.15185044

>>15185002
>IF JAPAN
>A COUNTRY
>IS REPLACED BY NIGERIANS
>A GROUP OF PEOPLE
Please explain to me how an entire geographical landscape can be replaced by a population. Please, explain to me.

>> No.15185050

>>15185039
White ethnic Brits are a minority in London. White people are becoming a minority in Europe.

>Also, Europe isn't a "concept", nor is it some fixed unchanging ideal. It is merely a loose collection of countries, there has never been a consistent unifying principle behind it apart from a) free movement of people and b) frictionless trade.
Based retard, why do you visit /lit/ if you never read?

>> No.15185053

>>15185043
>the country (i.e. the people in it)
Nope, sorry, either say "the japanese population" or don't say anything at all. I will not stand for dumb fuck /pol/tards and their abuse of language.

>> No.15185068

>>15185039
>That doesn't mean white people are being "replaced". The white people living in Europe are not disappearing of the face of the earth. Making up a smaller percentage of the population does not meaning they are being "replaced". this is not invasion of the bodysnatchers. You /pol/tards always use the most dumbass inaccurate language in order to push a scary narrative that is nothing but optics.
You are delusional. So according to you, the Native Americans weren't replaced by Europeans? They just.. make up a smaller percentage? How do you live with this cognitive dissonance I wonder.

>> No.15185071

>>15185050
>White ethnic Brits are a minority in London. White people are becoming a minority in Europe.
you should go preach to them that they all need to start fucking then

>> No.15185080

>>15185053
Good strategy, attacking grammar of an ESL while strawmanning the actual substance. You are pure cancer and do not deserve to be taken seriously.

>> No.15185082

>>15185050
>White ethnic Brits are a minority in London.
So? I live in london and I'm white, I don't give a shit about racial demographics. It's not a threat to me. I am not being "replaced". That is a retarded term to use that obscures whatever point you're trying to make.

Also, why not address my point about racial differences being subsumed by genetic differences? This literally renders the scientific category of "race" entirely redundant.

>> No.15185087

>>15185068
Native Americans were systematically herded into reservations and their population reduced by murder
White European population on the other hand is going down because... they're low test? Go hand out some viagra in Euro countries anon

>> No.15185090

>>15185071
>unable to refute the argument

>> No.15185105

>>15185071
Kill yourself.

>>15185082
>I am not being replaced.

You quite literally are.

>> No.15185108

>>15185087
No, because their government import people from the desert while the natives do not want this. Please leave retard.

>> No.15185119

>>15185108
they should vote new government in during the next elections then, this is how government works

>> No.15185122

>>15185068
>So according to you, the Native Americans weren't replaced by Europeans? They just.. make up a smaller percentage?
Not in that example. Replacement implies substitution, which absolutely happened to the native american population, as most of them were killed off. There is no substitution in the phenomenon you are describing in Europe, because white people are not being "substituted" for blacks. Therefore "replacement" is an inadequate term.

>> No.15185129

>>15185090
I gave you the solution, if browns be breeding too much then whites should breed more to match them

>> No.15185132

>>15185105
>You quite literally are.
Oh yeah? Where am I being replaced to? Which of the many illustrious immigrants moving to my town are taking my place?

>> No.15185134

>>15185087
So it's only replacement when you decide it is? That's almost funny. Irrespective of the reason, if a population shrinks over time and in its place come other peoples to fill the gap, that is replacement whether you like it or not.

>> No.15185144

>>15185132
>>15185105
also
>still avoiding to refute the idea that race doesn't exist
pathetic.

>> No.15185146

>>15185119
No that's not how it works, there is no option where people can vote that way. You are absolutely delusional.

>> No.15185159

>>15185132
Ethnic Europeans are becoming fewer, non-European population is ever increasing. That's how you are being replaced.

Imagine ethnic Brits being a minority in their own capital.

>> No.15185166

>>15185144
That race is arbitrary and has gray areas doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There are clear differences between races, it just depends on where you draw the boundaries.

>> No.15185168

>>15185134
replacement implies subtraction of the white population, which isn't what's happening
adding browns =/= subtracting whites
adding browns = adding browns
>>15185146
then if people really care there they should run for office and hold the position against immigration

>> No.15185179

>>15185159
>Ethnic Europeans are becoming fewer, non-European population is ever increasing. That's how you are being replaced.
That is not a replacement, no matter how much you insist on it. You don't even understand the words coming out of your mouth. The population is growing, there is no "gap" to fill by the would-be white people that would fill it if they decided to have kids. And if white people genuinely wanted to protect their 'majority' status, why don't they just have more kids?

>> No.15185180

>>15185168
You just agreed that whites are not breeding. So it is both adding browns and subtracting whites. Are you intentionally this dense?

>> No.15185182

>>15184468
Jesus that is some poor scholarship.
>Conquest is outdated!
>Proceeds to use one source from 1991, before most of the archives were open or examined

>> No.15185192

>>15185179
>That is not a replacement, no matter how much you insist on it.
You are mentally ill seek help.

The population is growing, yes, however it's non white ethnic growth. Hence replacement.

>> No.15185193

>>15185166
>There are clear differences between races
And how do you distinguish those differences from genetic ones?

>> No.15185198

>>15185180
whites not breeding doesn't mean subtracting whites, it means stagnation of the white population
that's the fault of whites themselves, they should get on breeding then

>> No.15185206

>>15185193
They ARE genetic ones. A coroner can identify whether a person is African, European or American solely based on the skull of the person.

>> No.15185212

>>15184450
The political writings of john adams
The political writings of james madison
The rights of man
The trial of socrates
The republic

>> No.15185213

>>15185198
Irrespective of what/who is at fault, less whites and more browns means replacement. You don't seem to understand words.

>> No.15185217

>>15185192
>>15185180
>it's non white ethnic growth. Hence replacement.
>+0 whites is actually a negative value
Solid maths, buddy. And that's even putting aside the contentious point that whites are not having kids (they are, just not as many as you would like, which is itself an entirely arbitrary value)

>> No.15185219

>>15185206
*Asian, not American.

>> No.15185222

>>15185213
ok, so why aren't white people fucking then?

>> No.15185229

>>15185206
>They ARE genetic ones.
So then why are you still talking about race like it actually exists?

>> No.15185236

>Nature and Culture in the Iliad (James M. Redfield)
>Five Meditations on Beauty (Francois Cheng)
>Scholia to an Implicit Text (Nicolás Gómez Dávila)
>Wastebooks (Georg Christoph Lichtenberg)
>On Being Blue (William Gass)

>> No.15185245

>>15185217
Non ethnic European population is growing.

Ethnic European population is going down.

You are being replaced and fail to see it.

>> No.15185249

>>15185229
...What? You just agreed there are genetic differences between races. You don't make sense at all. There are genetic differences between races, so race exists. The only contention is where to put the dividing line between each group.

>> No.15185250

>Thread derailed
oh gee thanks again /pol/

>> No.15185255

>>15185222
Perceived cost of living, hedonism, feminism, gay culture, propaganda. Loads of reasons. That still doesn't mean they're not being replaced if the end result is less whites and more browns.

>> No.15185280

>>15185249
>There are genetic differences between races, so race exists.
>there are genetic differences between populations with different genetics, therefore different genetics exists
ftfy. I know its confusing, but do try to keep up. I'm showing you that the idea of "race" is a constructed tautology that purports to be scientific without being scientific at all. Like I said before, racial difference can be subsumed 100% by genetic difference. Which means there is literally no point to a scientific concept of "race", because everything it describes can already be described better by genetics.

>The only contention is where to put the dividing line between each group.
And that's precisely the problem. Divide and conquer. It means you can point to demographic charts and complain about "racial replacement", despite knowing full well that race doesn't exist.

>> No.15185282

>>15185250
Right, I just wanted to share my books

>> No.15185285

>>15185255
so what's your solution buddy?
or rather, if the whites are choosing not to fuck anyways,
what's the problem?
muh culture? spook
muh ethnicity? spook
muh ebil browns? spook
muh nation? spook
muh white purity? spook
etc... spooks, all of it

>> No.15185302

>>15185122
So according to you, only when people are being killed can we speak of replacement? That's not how that works anon.

>> No.15185310

>>15185285
The solution is clearly not to import the third world.

>> No.15185312

>>15185285
any solution is regarded as white supremasism or being a nazi.

>> No.15185321

>>15185310
>>15185312
so there's no problem or solution, got it

>> No.15185325

>>15185280
>ftfy. I know its confusing, but do try to keep up. I'm showing you that the idea of "race" is a constructed tautology that purports to be scientific without being scientific at all. Like I said before, racial difference can be subsumed 100% by genetic difference. Which means there is literally no point to a scientific concept of "race", because everything it describes can already be described better by genetics.
So you're saying there can't be categories that span multiple ethnicities but exclude others? My god you're retarded. A Swede is obviously genetically closer to a Russian than to an Indian, so there's your race. There goes your argument.

>> No.15185327

>>15185321
There is a problem, but you don't necessarily need a solution, it will sort itself out in due time.

>> No.15185337

>>15185321
You are such a bad faith actor. Just because you don't agree with the solution doesn't mean there isn't a problem.

>> No.15185347

>wanting to preserve the irish
>wanting to preserve the italians

that's a yikes from me dawg.

>> No.15185354

>>15185285
Irrespective of what the solution is, you positing this means you agree there is a problem right? Right. Replacement. There are multilple ways of solving that which are not the issue here. The issue is that you deny replacement because it doesn't fit your made-up criteria.

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>>15184450
Technological Slavery and Anti-tech Revolution. Pic related.

>> No.15185361

>>15185337
explain the problem to me
if white population is declining because they aren't having kids, what's the problem?
"the white population is declining" is not an argument, it's a premise
so what's the problem?

>> No.15185369

the technological society
my war gone by, i miss it so
augustine's confessions
mémoires d'outre-tombe

>> No.15185376

>>15185354
ok, say I agree that replacement is happening but why is that a problem?
it's not like the whites are getting rounded up and shot, they're just not having kids

>> No.15185378

>>15185361
The problem is that instead of a shrinking population of whites, it is becoming a population of whites and nonwhites. If white people not breeding was the only issue you wouldn't hear me complaining about this.

>> No.15185394

>>15185378
why is that a problem?

>> No.15185395

>>15185325
Like I said, the only reason anyone would want to maintain distinct racial categories is because they want to talk about population demographics and "replacement theory". There is literally no other reason to enforce them when you can talk about specific genetic types just as easily.

>> No.15185396

>>15185376
The problem is that I don't want my country, which had been nearly homogeneous for thousands of years, to completely shift demographically in a century. If in a century the native Japanese are slowly being replaced by Nigerians, Japan will cease to be Japan. The same for any country that is mostly homogeneous. A country is the way it is because of the people that live in it.

>> No.15185404

>>15185394
Wherever it is you came from, you need to go back there.

>> No.15185409

>>15185044
Your hair splitting won't work here, Moshe

>> No.15185411

>>15185394
Because Europe is becoming more and more inhabited by non-ethnic Europeans whose lives depends on Ethnic Europeans paying for them. They are net negative to society.

>> No.15185413

>>15185394
A nation cannot function unless it is a unity. Importing people from all over the world who have no incentive to become like me but are only here for the money does not sustain unity.

>> No.15185421

>>15185376
Why is being killed necessary to count as replacement in your world?

>> No.15185425

>>15184527

If I was the supreme fascist dictator of Europe I would let you stay on the condition you have only one child. If that's not acceptable I would pay you either a lump sum or continuous welfare to relocate.

>> No.15185426

>>15185396
why are you so obsessed with a spook like 'my country'? live your own life, retard
or better yet, if your country can't survive some browns then it was too weak in the first place and deserves what's happening
>>15185404
I never left

>> No.15185428

>>15184924
>The Tipping Point - Gladwell
is this his best?

>> No.15185435

>>15185421
didn't say it did, all I said was that whites, if they are being replaced, are the ones at fault for not breeding enough

>> No.15185443

>>15185395
Okay. That doesn't disprove my point though, just points out that you don't want to talk about certain issues.

Still, wouldn't you agree that the difference between a German and a Pole is much less significant than that between a German and a Korean? But you make it seem like they're both the same. They're not.

>> No.15185448

>>15185426
Lmao, dude fuck your ancestors and future generations don't care about anything but dopamine and consuming products.

>> No.15185455

>>15185426
Why do you call it a spook? It isn't. That some borders are arbitrary doesn't mean that all are.

>or better yet, if your country can't survive some browns then it was too weak in the first place and deserves what's happening
>or better yet, if your country can't survive some whites then it was too weak in the first place and deserves what's happening
You just defended colonialism and genocide, congratulations.

>> No.15185462

did monroe ever do anything hardcore

>> No.15185465

>>15185435
Sure, but that still doesn't mean they aren't being replaced. They are being replaced, whatever the reason, if it's their own fault or not.

>> No.15185486

>>15185448
>ancestors
I have respect for my family, but my family isn't a country it's my family
>future generations
I'll take good care of my kids, and help them support their kids
that's all a part of MY life, why should I be bothered by a non-living entity like a country?
countries are spooks
>>15185455
>colonialism and genocide, congratulations
spooks

>> No.15185510

>>15185486
You have to be trolling. You can't just call anything you dislike a spook, retard.

>or better yet, if your country can't survive some whites then it was too weak in the first place and deserves what's happening
So you're saying the Native Americans got what they deserved?

Also I pity you that you have nothing greater in your life, it must be very empty.

>> No.15185528

>>15185501
>So you're saying the Native Americans got what they deserved?
no I didn't say that, and this whole time I've been arguing that killing a population is wrong
in the context of your posts, you're just trying to use those words to spook me into agreeing with you but you fail to see the completely different contexts of your examples
white people aren't getting systematically murdered in european countries, they're getting outbred
why is this a bad thing? you have no real answer beyond 'muh country' and 'muh culture'
countries aren't a living thing, they're just a collection of people and they'll change over time, get the fuck over it you pussy
if your country can't survive populations changing then the country will become something new
if white people tryna stay the majority, then they should get to fucking and or they should vote for more isolationist policies

>> No.15185540

>>15185501
>>15185510
lmao why did you take out
>You just defended colonialism and genocide, congratulations.
from your post?

>> No.15185582

>>15184450

>body of a 14-year-old
>face of a 40-year-old
Somehow, I find this picture super unsettling

>> No.15185587

>>15185428
I wouldn't know, I haven't read any of his other books, I probably should though

>> No.15185595

>>15185425
This post turned out better than I initially expected when I started reading.
Anyway, what Europe is getting now is kind of a payback to their past actions, nothing more.

>> No.15185608

>>15184482
>>15184831
>Le Venezuela

>> No.15185625

I get that Swedes have a low nativity.
I just don't want 100.000 immigrants a year to make up for it. Am I racist?

>> No.15185644

>>15185528
>no I didn't say that, and this whole time I've been arguing that killing a population is wrong
You implied it you hypocrite, you said that if a country can't handle some foreigners they deserve what's coming to them.

>in the context of your posts, you're just trying to use those words to spook me into agreeing with you but you fail to see the completely different contexts of your examples
No, you think they're different contexts but they're not, you're just retarded.

>white people aren't getting systematically murdered in european countries, they're getting outbred
That still doesn't mean they aren't being replaced.

>why is this a bad thing? you have no real answer beyond 'muh country' and 'muh culture'
Just because you don't see the value in those things doesn't mean that they don't have any inherent value. They're actually very good reasons.

>countries aren't a living thing, they're just a collection of people and they'll change over time, get the fuck over it you pussy
No they're not, a country is what is because of its inhabitants, get over it you pussy.

>if your country can't survive populations changing then the country will become something new
Just like America and the natives right?

>if white people tryna stay the majority, then they should get to fucking and or they should vote for more isolationist policies
Finally something we agree on.

Jesus christ I haven't encountered many people that are so intellectually dishonest as you are. You can't just call anything you don't want to argue about a spook. You must be either an idealist socialist/marxist or a rootless mutt, that should explain why you don't see value in maintaining what your ancestors painstakingly built.

>>15185540
Because I didn't mean to put that in, I meant to quote you, and I knew that if I left it in you'd fin a way to make it into a senseless point like you just did anyway.

>> No.15185662

>>15185595
Ah yeah fuck Sweden and their exploitation of colonized peop... wait.

>> No.15185672

>>15185625
No, you're a good Swede.

>> No.15185688

>>15185644
you're the dishonest one here when you can't even recognize the difference between murder and having kids because all people represent to you are numbers for population totals

>> No.15185699

>>15185688
No, I've stated multiple times that replacement can happen both by murder and by outbreeding. You seem to think that only murder qualifies but that's just retarded.

>> No.15185728

>>15185699
keep on coping, the white race will continue to diminish since incels like you are too busy getting into arguments on 4chan instead of getting laid
get a hobby and get off of here, and after all this corona shit is over please go out and talk to a girl without scaring her away by bringing up your white replacement talking points

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>>15184450
>tfw no qt commie gf to call me a Fascist pig while we fuck
Why live?

>> No.15185744

>>15185728
It's not a cope, you literally have no argument lol. I'd love to see where you got that specific definition from that population replacement only counts if one group is being murdered.

And thanks for the advice mutt, keep seething and believing that everything is arbitrary and nothing matters, you're growing up to be a perfect materialist consumer.

>> No.15185767

>>15185733
>commie gf
that exists?

>> No.15186010

>>15184468
>5. Economic manuscripts of 1844
Ask me how do I know you haven't read anything about Marx except for the manifesto?

>> No.15186027

>>15184971
Excellent question, if those people would all behave like modern Japanese people, believe in the same shit, talk the same language and basically do the same things, are they not Japanese because of their high quantities of melanin diference?

>> No.15186040

>>15185087
different method but same result anon, it doesn't rebuke anon

>> No.15186143

>>15186027
They're not but not because of their melanin, because of their entire DNA. They're just not Japanese. Koreans aren't Japanese for example, for multiple reasons. I gave Japan as an example specifically because if I were to emigrate there, immerse in the culture, speak the language, etc, I would still not be considered Japanese. And for good reason.

Now I will grant you that small numbers of other people can sometimes be assimilated into a population, yes even if their melanin quantity is different, but only if they truly assimilate in the way you posited, and that just doesn't happen in real life, especially not when so many come at the same time - they will cling to their own culture, language etc. And this is what's happening in Europe right now.

>> No.15186179

>>15185528
Not the guy you're arguing with, but had a question anyway. Considering that the European "white" ethnic group, a nebulous term but whatever, affords itself more social power and can maintain its "culture" however arbitrary a word that is, why would someone that benefits from the way that society currently operates seek to relinquish the social power afforded to him by virtue of being part of the group treated as culturally superior by allowing a different culture to usurp the current social regime and implant a more egalitarian cultural system? It seems like if the country itself doesn't matter, at least the system benefits him right now and it would be in his best interest to keep it that way, no?

>> No.15186433
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>>15184450
Dickinson's poetry
Marvell's poetry
Gibbon's history
Boswell's biography
Pepys' diary

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>mfw the non-fiction readers exposing themselves as /pol/ midwits brainwashed instantly by the books they read into primative ideals who wouldn't know aesthetic value if it was 3 feet up their ass

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the men who stare at goats
the psychopath test
the doors of perception
mirrors
chilren of the days

>> No.15186610

>>15184450
1. The Holy Bible
2. Graves’ Hebrew Myths: The Book of Genesis, which will try to persuade you that 1. does not count as nonfiction yet is excellent anyway
3. Men to Match My Mountains, Stone. Greatest read on the West there is afaik. My entire extended family has read it and loves it, terribly engaging.
4. [random work of Kierkegaard]
5. Beyond Good and Evil or The Culture of Narcissism or something

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>>15184450
1. The Unique and Its Property by Max Stirner
2. Persuasion and Rhetoric by Carlo Michelstaedter
3. I Await the Devil's Coming by Mary MacLane
4. Novatore: The Collected Writings by Renzo Novatore
5. The Selected Works of Voltairine de Cleyre: Poems, Essays, Sketches and Stories, 1885-1911 by Voltairine de Clayre

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15186915

>>15184450
God and the State- Mikhail Bakunin
Genealogy of Morals- Nietzsche
Unique and its Property- Max Stirner
Towards the Creative Nothing- Renzo Novatore
What is Property?- Pierre Joseph Proudhon

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>>15184450
>>15185582

Please tell me someone else sees the resemblance.

>> No.15186941

>>15184468
PAAAARTIYAAAA LEEEEENINAAA

>> No.15187334

>>15184482
they are really stupid, hence why they are Communists to begin with. they don't know any history

>> No.15187353

>>15186938
holy shit. I have on image hover and flicking between the two pictures makes in very clear. strange stuff

>> No.15187367

>>15185608
If every single one of your attempts at communism becomes a meme you preemptively repeat to stave off criticism you should pause and think for a second

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>>15184450
Number 1.

>> No.15187772

>>15185250
Is it just me or do they really seem to like /lit/ in particular?

>> No.15187812

>>15184450
1. Dianetics
2. Dianetics
3. Dianetics
4. Dianetics
5. Kama Sutra

>> No.15188053

>>15186845
1 and 2 are extremely good choices. I was going to list those myself.

>> No.15188123

>>15187334
If you are not 18 this is pathetic kek

>> No.15188226

>>15184450
1. The Ego And Its Own
2. Fear and Trembling
3. A Brief History Of Decay
4. The Myth Of Sysiphus
5. Twilight Of The Idols

>> No.15188591

>>15185486
> countries are spooks

This fucking statement alone, makes it abundantly clear, that you have no idea whatsoever of how nationalism woks, and how deeply it influences virtually all aspects of human life. I recommend you read "Everyday Nationhood"; it's a short 2008 research paper, so even you should be able to understand what is being said in it.

>> No.15188747

>>15185039
>Race isn’t real, it’s just genetic differences
People of particular origin are going to be more genetically similar that someone’s who’s heritage comes from another part of the world. These genetic differences could then be grouped into race, in the same way domestic cats are into breeds even though they are mostly similar. Just because scientists of the current era are trying to force the concept of racial equality doesn’t mean it’s real.

Also with the European situation, even though genetics do influence personality, race is less of the problem than the culture that comes with it.

>> No.15188780

>>15185582
I find it super hot.

>> No.15188924

>>15185528
I'm apolitical but I'm more than okay with people like this being politically persecuted and possibly executed.

I hate intellectual dishonesty

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15188968

You can't just point out a certain percentage genetic difference and say "look that's a different species!"
Why all these tiresome categorizations

>> No.15189227

>>15185280
Everyone knows race is real, shut up faggot.

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>>15184482
>>15187334
>t.

>> No.15189326

>>15184450
1. Practical Programming for Strength Training 3rd edition.
2. The Unique and Its Property.
3. Stirner's Critics.
I can't classify the rest because none I have liked as much as these three.

>> No.15189408

>>15184686
>
>>15186010


Not OP & haven't engaged w/ Marx, but presumably the Economic manuscripts of 1844 are not worth reading? What's the meta-level meme here?

>> No.15189419

>>15184468
>fighting propaganda with propaganda

>> No.15189584 [DELETED] 

>>15184717
All the great nations of the world have "ceased" to exist man times, and are ceasing to exist even today - their languages also. Those who adapt wisely and embrace change thrive, those who cling to temporal things as though they were otherwise are in for a disappointing elderhood.

>> No.15189596

>>15184555
All the great nations of the world have "ceased" to exist many times, and are ceasing to exist even now - their languages as well. Those who adapt wisely thrive, those clinging to temporal things as though they were otherwise are in for disappointment in old age, as they witness the immutability of change.

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In order

Ego and it's own
The geniality of morals
Simulacra and simulation
Moneyball
The Confessions of St. Augustine

I haven't actually read that many non fiction books

>> No.15189761

>>15185039
>Making up a smaller percentage of the population does not meaning they are being "replaced".
>all racial differences can be subsumed under an idea of genetic difference anyway
As differences between, say Chinese people and ocelots can be subsumed into the category of 'mammal' if you insist on chunking at that level. An identifiable and distinct group of 'white Europeans' clearly exists, as you keep referring to it in your post. Which group, by your own admission, is making up an increasingly smaller percentage of the population in their historical homelands - thus being /replaced/ as the primary motive force within them.

>> No.15189893

>>15186433
only /lit/ response

>> No.15189919

>>15189596
Truth

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>>15184450
1. Road to serfdom, Hayek
2. Denationalization of money, Hayek
3. Capitalism and freedom, Friedman
4. Free to choose, Friedman
5. Vision of the anointed, Sowell

Suck it, you marxist pigs.

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>>15185595
>what Europe is getting now is kind of a payback to their past actions
You mean like slavery? If that's the case, shouldn't we just kill all niggers? I mean, after all, they've been using slaves for a very long time, longer than white people, and they're still using slaves in niggerland. Same goes true for cockroaches in the middle-east like Turkey, perhaps they should be wiped out for their colonial crimes (past and present - they still occupy Cyprus, remember?).

I say we kill all untermensch, that is, all non-white people.

>> No.15190919

>>15185358
got a pdf of that shit?

>> No.15190921

>>15185082
>So? I live in london and I'm white, I don't give a shit about racial demographics
not an argument, just means you're naive or self-hating. most likely the latter since if you genuinely didn't care you wouldn't react like that.
>Also, why not address my point about racial differences being subsumed by genetic differences? This literally renders the scientific category of "race" entirely redundant.
to conflate so many things at once and to have such a piss poor understanding of a number of common sense arguments means that you are literally a stupid person. how old are you?

>> No.15190924

>>15184527
clearly this very question betrays a sense of obnoxious entitlement. this would be more than reason enough. you are a disgusting human being.

>> No.15190951

>>15185043
the question is pointless because the premise is practically impossible and you'd know that if you considered it for more than two minutes. but you don't because you're intellectually dishonest and driven only by a desire to see mass third world immigration into europe continue unabated.

>> No.15190954

>>15190951
meant for >>15186027

>> No.15190958

>>15184625
Yes, if said non-whites have disgusting views very much opposed to ours.

>No, please, do come and ruin our wonderful countries

Why would anyone...?

>> No.15190961

>>15184876
You know you would say the same if hordes of white people moved into non-white countries and started outbreeding the non-white population you subhuman turd, you.

>> No.15190968

>>15189408
it's terribly cringe, it's Marx's first attempt at economics (alongside his critique of James Mill's treatise) and it really shows, he quotes Shakespeare and Goethe but doesn't really get to the heart of the issues he explored in his later works, it's all based on muh feelz
>>15190149
based

>> No.15190972

>>15184552
>The New Jim Crow
Nigger lover

>> No.15190975

>>15185250
>>15187772
>thread derailed
>by /pol/
>>15184527
the absolute, blatant dishonesty.

>> No.15190983

>>15184990
haha big ouchie on hike

>> No.15190990

>>15184450
>>15184450
infinite jest
white noise
underworld
confederacy of dunces
pattern recognition

they all became non-fiction

>> No.15191001

>>15185129
how about not importing them in the millions in the first place so we don't have to do that?

>> No.15191015

>>15186027
>blank slate faggot
If I dressed you in a cute red dress, made you grow your hair long and suck my cock would you still be a woman? Of coarse not! you would just be that faggot who wears red dress and sucks cocks.

>> No.15191017

Social ontology and modern economics
John Maynard Keynes
Thinking fast and slow
Nonlinear dynamics and chaos
The lost science of money

>> No.15191023

>>15185229
>>15185280
>what are abstractions
imagine actually being this low iq. how do such people even figure out how to post? why the hell would they come to a literature board in the first place? oh that's right, because the other discord users ordered them to. there is NO way that anyone this provably stupid has any interest in literature.

>> No.15191068

>>15185376
>>15185376
because european populations almost always build and maintain countries possessing certain very desirable traits, or at least countries with the potential for these traits, to a degree that you simply don't see the populations that is currently being imported into europe do. it is not realistic to convert a population historically, culturally (and genetically) extremely different from those found in europe to be functionally european. it follows that mass-immigration into europe of those populations, will fundamentally change europe into not possessing those traits. If you don't mind this, then you don't mind, but if you care about those traits then you should. that is one reason.

>> No.15191070

>>15185395
Genetic traits differ in prevalence between different races, e.g. life history speed and average general intelligence. Race is a useful heuristic for referring to these differences.

Also, since you insist there are no noteworthy differences between clearly distinguishable peoples, please move to a country in MENA, lmao.

>> No.15191077

>>15184625
b2r, please

>> No.15191104

>>15185595
>>15185595
why should people want to inflict extreme harm on themselves, and destroy the good things that their ancestors helped build up just because their ancestors also did bad things? why is that a desirable outcome for the world? you won't erase the bad things, they already happened, you won't punish the people responsible, they've been dead for a century, you'll just erase the good things. leaving the world worse off. why is present-day europe and its people uniquely responsible for the actions of past europeans when this is never applied to other groups of people? where is the logic here? there is no logic, only (self-)hate.

>> No.15191122

>>15185217
Just go b2r, everyone can see you're trolling. If whites become a minority they will no longer have political power and their culture and values and freedom will disappear. You don't support FGM, you don't want to kill gays, you don't want your daughter to be stoned for fornication. Go away and leave us alone, I implore you.

>> No.15191128

>>15185250
what? It's the redditors who are ruining it.

>> No.15191167

>>15185728
wow, how does it feel to be intellectually humiliated? You must be Chad Thundercock himself to withstand the mental battering that comes from having your deceitful nature be laid bare.

>> No.15191181

>>15189596
change being an inevitability says nothing about the nature of that change.
>Those who adapt wisely thrive
maybe the wise adaption to a restless world where third worlders are flocking to the successful nations of the world in massive numbers is to enact stricter immigration policies. what absolute platitudes. you clearly have no thought, just a desire to see the third world come to europe and various piss-poor post-hoc rationalizations.

>> No.15191206

>>15185699
How did people get fooled into thinking demographics wasn't political? As if it's just some natural thing that happens like the changing of the seasons, and not artificially induced through human will.

>> No.15191313

>>15185119
This has to be bait. Lefties arent THIS retarded. This board sucks ass

>> No.15191867

The Thirty Years War by C. V. Wedgewood
Armageddon by Max Hastings
Arctic Dreams by Barry Lopez
John Adams by David McCullough
Stars in Their Courses by Shelby Foote

>> No.15191876

>>15185134
But the absolute population of white is still increasing you mongoloid. More white people are born every year than there are white death every year.

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>>15186610
>The Holy Bible

Thread is about nonfiction books

>> No.15193215

>>15190968
His digression in the Critique of James Mill is actually the heart of his entire work. His later works are just footnotes.

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>>15184497
>>15186915
>>15188226
>>15189677
>>15184874
>>15186845
>>15189326
>>15188053
Based Stirnerite bros!

>> No.15194423

>>15187367
Yeah, I'm the one that needs to think more.

>> No.15195307

>>15191181
I'll do my best to answer what you've said, and clarify my reason for commenting without offense, as I think we've all inadvertently programmed ourselves a little to an inefficient mode of discussion here on /lit/ - prone to devolutions and enticing intrusive non-contributants to derail our pursuit of serious conversation.

I consider the poster to whom I originally replied quite level headed actually - more so than his repliers even (whose being offended may have jarred their responses just a little). However, he essentially advocates a reduction in the rate of change via only one of its many sources, and I intended to remind him, from within and without, always, the ending and beginning is taking place. The Europe and U.S. we conservatives often call to the mind's eye as a guiding light is not only too idyllic, but has already ended, and the nature of our current civilization is obscured by our existing within it. Even a desire to slow immigration is a reactionary facet, rather than a solution.

I should probably mention; although a half White, half Black man, I'm a conservative American whose views aren't very different from your own on the issue.

I may differ on one key point, perhaps due to being an American, where we have a romantic view of ourselves as the great melting pot - neverminding the lengthy nature of the process - or to favorable results I've attained in my own life, compared to other African Americans, despite my parentage being a direct result of immigration.

I consider, of far greater importance than ethnos, shared values and culture to be the spirit and preservative of a nation. The erosion of culture is my predominant concern respecting immigration. I can't speak for Europe, but here in the States, where immigration rates are consistently high, we see large groups of migrants come and settle here who regardless of citizenship never become Americans. This has happened due to the incremental suppression of cultural norms by PC politics. I will say ethnos becomes relevant here, not because of intrinsic differences between ethnic groups, but because the Caucasian majority is often the group expected to bring its culture into equilibrium with those migrant groups - due to being the majority race, and therefore the predominant definer of the region's culture. Now, if the equilibrium achieved were a true balancing act of the cultures it would not be a serious problem as this happens naturally through regular interaction, but instead what happens is an artificial equilibrium where facets of the already extant culture are sublimated, or relegated to practice only in segregated company. This pocketing process creates racial tensions and frictions over time, and is exacerbatory in my opinion.

(Con't)

>> No.15195514

>>15195307
To this issue - that of migrants coming in without intention, or otherwise failing to adopt the culture, therefore rendering them essentially polite invaders, gradually annexing territory, rather than migrants as they have never abandoned their allegiance to their nativity in favor of the new homeland - there is need for curbing the quality and number of your migrants. This is not for any fear of being outbred, the lovely and wise of all races will ever be more drawn to one another, being of like character, than to those Tennyson once called droves of swine upon an endless plain, but so as to allow cultural assimilation at a rate which prevents a region's form of gov't from mutating into an arm of gov'ts from other regions of the world, and it's people from being subdued and made to hand over the prosperity earned by their forebears unto looters who wish the reward of the culture, yet seek its destruction, not realizing the successes are its outflows.

In case I have not been clear enough, I mean to say I support your view of stricter migration policies, but not for fear of deteriorating an ethnos, seeing as if the best of all peoples were to join, only a superior ethnos could emerge, but concern for the forced loss of cultures possessing many unique and valuable qualities - though not without blemish, as all.

I do not desire to see the third world come to Europe. I wish to see those with a true love for Europe, born into the third world, come to Europe lawfully and learn what it truly means to be European. Certainly, they will never attain it. It cannot be done, but their children will be closer, and grand children closer still. By the 4th generation, as with those climbing from poverty to wealth, one can expect full assimilation.

It is valuable to keep in mind we talk of abstractions, therefore reasoning in a vacuum. In reality, people are too varied for our musings to apply ubiquitously. I know migrants whose English vocabularies exceed natural citizens, whose knowledge and passion for our U.S. history and constitutional values exceeds those of the natural born, and though not unloving to their homelands, bear greater loyalty to this country than any other. I also know natural born Americans with no love for the Founding Fathers nor the Constitution, woefully ignorant of our history, and by their way of life, contribute greatly in earnest to the destruction of Western Civilization.

This is as imminent and perhaps more virulent a threat to Europe and North America than any other - the true slow death consisting in the rapid loss of values and integrity among the people.

Even in the age of segregation here in America, the image of the American man was largely consistent in character race-to-race: honest, hardworking, compassionate, perhaps hotblooded, but not unloving, and though foolish, brave (though in having named honesty naming bravery may be redundant). This was the American.

(Con't)

>> No.15195536

>>15195514
If you were to ask my countrymen today what it means to be an American, or to describe the virtue and vice of the American people, I find it difficult to imagine pervasive agreement.

In any case, I hope you can understand and find value in this perspective.

Mark Strand, a former Poet Laureate of the United States, has a simple poem which harkens a little to my first post:

Black Maps

Not the attendance of stones,
nor the applauding wind,
shall let you know
you have arrived,

not the sea that celebrates
only departures,
nor the mountains,
nor the dying cities.

Nothing will tell you
where you are.
Each moment is a place
you’ve never been.

You can walk
believing you cast
a light around you.
But how will you know?

The present is always dark.
Its maps are black,
rising from nothing,
describing,

in their slow ascent
into themselves,
their own voyage,
its emptiness,

the bleak, temperate
necessity of its completion.
As they rise into being
they are like breath.

And if they are studied at all
it is only to find,
too late, what you thought
were concerns of yours

do not exist.
Your house is not marked
on any of them,
nor are your friends,

waiting for you to appear,
nor are your enemies,
listing your faults.
Only you are there,

saying hello
to what you will be,
and the black grass
is holding up the black stars.