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How young is too young to read Plato?

>> No.15181268

It's not like children are all the same. It's like you've never watched young Sheldon.

>> No.15181273

Didn't Plato say men shouldn't get into philosophy too young?

>> No.15181276

You should start with the Greeks as soon as you leave the womb.

>> No.15181279

>>15181259
You should read Plato in your 20s and then read him in original Greek in your 40s.

>> No.15181287

>>15181259
1 years old is certainly too young, just to get us started.

>> No.15181295

I wish someone made me read plato when I was like 12-13

>> No.15181309

>>15181259
You should read early Plato in your adolescence, middle Plato in your early twenties, and late Plato in your late twenties.

>> No.15181319

>>15181309
there is no early middle or late plato

>> No.15181321

>>15181319
He means the generally agreed upon eras where they were released

>> No.15181367

>>15181259
Bellow 40, but zoomers will read him anyway then post their shitty opinion.

>> No.15181910

Bump

>> No.15182565

>>15181259
if you're stupid you'll always be too young

>> No.15182925

>>15181259
The Socratic dialogues in audio https://mega.nz/folder/utchyAAK#GTVl1fINpekEch95xj8Fmg

>> No.15182940

>>15182925
Lol translated

>> No.15182976

>>15181259
you should read him when you're young to work on your Greek, but he will become more meaningful to you personally the older you get

>> No.15183622

>>15181321

yes, i understand he's referring to "the generally agreed upon eras when they were released"

but those terms are neitiher "generally agreed upon eras when they were released" nor do they delineate anything at all in content, structure, and themes between the dialogues

in fact, following the advice given (based on the misunderstanding of this categorization of plato) would be very unproductive. The 'early period' is not "short, easy, good for beginners" and the late period is not "long, hard, requiring great knowledge of the other dialogues". The meno, euthyphro and theateatus (and gorgias) are wonderful dialogues for beginning to read Plato and beginning to be a student in general. Maybe govt. english or history teachers want students to read apology and crito because of the drama and stakes, but these dialogues are not very valuable to those who haven't already begun to read plato. It is also obvious that you should not wait until late in your life to read the republic and the timaeus

>> No.15183741

Philosophy should not be started until one has a job or romantic experience. The vast majority of concepts would have no usefulness to one's life otherwise, and reading such things too early is how one adopts delusional beliefs such as egalitarianism.

>> No.15183793

>>15181259
anything under 35. only read modern philosophy before that. for proof enter any philosophy thread on /lit/ and see what the "start with the greeks" meme actually results in. But when you do get to 35 you really ought to read him.

>> No.15183799

>>15181259
literally as young as like 6 or 7. plato isn't incredibly hard to understand, and refuting him would be a good way to train your children's mind. The closest I've ever come to have my own set of philosophical thoughts that weren't from some book what how I refuted his arguments for reincarnation using the nature of causes. It led to a whole series of interesting thoughts about forms and how causes function.

>> No.15184107

>>15183741
dumb dumb

>> No.15184992

>>15181287
ye and anything before age that is probably too young either

>> No.15185011

Today is too young, tomorrow is too late. Do it or don't.

>> No.15185049

>>15181259
idk read most of his major works at 20 under the potentially delusional idea that reading the greeks would literally fix my life and make me successful

that being said, there is some solid wisdom and interesting ideas in there, along with socrates being the ultimate pseud destroyer. i wouldn't call it the be-all-end-all of philsophy though

>> No.15185252

>>15183799
This

I think it's fine as early as anything can be read to them just make sure they are getting good stimulation elsewhere as well

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>>15181268
fpwp

>> No.15185290

>>15181259
You begin as early as possible. Start now. Easier dialogues first, i.e. Meno, Crito, Euthyphro, to more difficult, i.e. Republic, Phaedo, etc. to expert, i.e. Theaetetus, Protagoras, Statesman