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What novel does one follow up an unforgettable masterpiece like this with?

>> No.15178345
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15178345

Onward to Bolaño!

>> No.15178362

>>15178219
Don Quixote Part Two

>> No.15179628
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>>15178219

>> No.15179634

>>15178219
Cervantes' last novel before dying, which he considered his masterpiece, but is ignored by everyone.

>> No.15180294

>>15179634
Post the name of it please

>> No.15180311

>>15180294
>The Travails of Persiles and Sigismunda
>He completed it only three days before his death, and it was posthumously published in 1617

>> No.15180618

>>15179628
You're okay, anon.

>> No.15180702

Onions bilingüe, pero nunca e leído un libro en Español.

>> No.15180708

>>15180702
>I can’t say I in Spanish
lmao

>> No.15180772

Not exactly a "novel" per say, but you should definitely find an audiobook on YT dealing with the Battle of Lepanto, where naval forces of the Holy League led by Don Jon of Austria decimated and finally turned back the ottomans.
You never learn about it in your school of course, which means it's up to you discover on your own how the Ottoman turks were raiding....Malta, the Greek isles, the Southern French coast, and taking tens of thousands of slaves.
And yes, I'm sure your wonderful teacher has told you this is not true, but if you'd like I'd be hppy to recommend several primary sources of of the time that describe the process.
How does this relate to Don Quixote? Cervantes was a Galley slave for more than 2 years and that's how he got his educations at slavery.
Go to YT and search "seige of MAlta, Audiobook." Slaves would be whipped with a dried bull's penis to try to bring them around. Then a piece of bread soaked in wine put into his mouth. If that still didn't revive him, he'd be thrown right overboard.
I highly, highly recommend that everyone familiarize themselves with just how ottoman slavery operated, so that the next time some lovely gentleman wants to tell how how awful treatment of black slaves was in the Americas, you can rattle off a few details of how the Ottomans ran their slaving business, and watch the black''s face drop as he knows not what too to next.

>> No.15180795

>>15180772
In case I neglected to add, Cervantes was a soldier who fought at Lepanto, probably the last and only "industrial killing" the world would see up until WW 1.

>> No.15180801

Lepanto
BY G. K. CHESTERTON
White founts falling in the courts of the sun,
And the Soldan of Byzantium is smiling as they run;
There is laughter like the fountains in that face of all men feared,
It stirs the forest darkness, the darkness of his beard,
It curls the blood-red crescent, the crescent of his lips,
For the inmost sea of all the earth is shaken with his ships.
They have dared the white republics up the capes of Italy,
They have dashed the Adriatic round the Lion of the Sea,
And the Pope has cast his arms abroad for agony and loss,
And called the kings of Christendom for swords about the Cross,
The cold queen of England is looking in the glass;
The shadow of the Valois is yawning at the Mass;
From evening isles fantastical rings faint the Spanish gun,
And the Lord upon the Golden Horn is laughing in the sun.

Dim drums throbbing, in the hills half heard,
Where only on a nameless throne a crownless prince has stirred,
Where, risen from a doubtful seat and half attainted stall,
The last knight of Europe takes weapons from the wall,
The last and lingering troubadour to whom the bird has sung,
That once went singing southward when all the world was young,
In that enormous silence, tiny and unafraid,
Comes up along a winding road the noise of the Crusade.
Strong gongs groaning as the guns boom far,
Don John of Austria is going to the war,
Stiff flags straining in the night-blasts cold
In the gloom black-purple, in the glint old-gold,
Torchlight crimson on the copper kettle-drums,
Then the tuckets, then the trumpets, then the cannon, and he comes.
Don John laughing in the brave beard curled,
Spurning of his stirrups like the thrones of all the world,
Holding his head up for a flag of all the free.
Love-light of Spain—hurrah!
Death-light of Africa!
Don John of Austria
Is riding to the sea.

Mahound is in his paradise above the evening star,
(Don John of Austria is going to the war.)
He moves a mighty turban on the timeless houri’s knees,
His turban that is woven of the sunset and the seas.
He shakes the peacock gardens as he rises from his ease,
And he strides among the tree-tops and is taller than the trees,
And his voice through all the garden is a thunder sent to bring
Black Azrael and Ariel and Ammon on the wing.
Giants and the Genii,
Multiplex of wing and eye,
Whose strong obedience broke the sky
When Solomon was king.

>> No.15180832

[ADDENDUM- NEAR THE END YOU'LL SEE THE MENTION OF CERVANTES AND HOW IT ALL TIES TOGETHER]

They rush in red and purple from the red clouds of the morn,
From temples where the yellow gods shut up their eyes in scorn;
They rise in green robes roaring from the green hells of the sea
Where fallen skies and evil hues and eyeless creatures be;
On them the sea-valves cluster and the grey sea-forests curl,
Splashed with a splendid sickness, the sickness of the pearl;
They swell in sapphire smoke out of the blue cracks of the ground,—
They gather and they wonder and give worship to Mahound.
And he saith, “Break up the mountains where the hermit-folk can hide,
And sift the red and silver sands lest bone of saint abide,
And chase the Giaours flying night and day, not giving rest,
For that which was our trouble comes again out of the west.
We have set the seal of Solomon on all things under sun,
Of knowledge and of sorrow and endurance of things done,
But a noise is in the mountains, in the mountains, and I know
The voice that shook our palaces—four hundred years ago:
It is he that saith not ‘Kismet’; it is he that knows not Fate ;
It is Richard, it is Raymond, it is Godfrey in the gate!
It is he whose loss is laughter when he counts the wager worth,
Put down your feet upon him, that our peace be on the earth.”
For he heard drums groaning and he heard guns jar,
(Don John of Austria is going to the war.)
Sudden and still—hurrah!
Bolt from Iberia!
Don John of Austria
Is gone by Alcalar.

>> No.15180849

>>15180795
not only that he was wounded in combat, shot 5 times losing the use of his left arm. He was in the first marine corps in the world, the spanish infanteria de marina

>> No.15180860

[IF THIS GETS ERASED, THEN SO BE IT, BUT I FIRMLY BELIEVE YOU CAN NEVER UNDERSTAND CERVANTES OR "DON QUIXOTE" WITHOUT BEING AT LEAST SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH it)

St. Michael’s on his mountain in the sea-roads of the north
(Don John of Austria is girt and going forth.)
Where the grey seas glitter and the sharp tides shift
And the sea folk labour and the red sails lift.
He shakes his lance of iron and he claps his wings of stone;
The noise is gone through Normandy; the noise is gone alone;
The North is full of tangled things and texts and aching eyes
And dead is all the innocence of anger and surprise,
And Christian killeth Christian in a narrow dusty room,
And Christian dreadeth Christ that hath a newer face of doom,
And Christian hateth Mary that God kissed in Galilee,
But Don John of Austria is riding to the sea.
Don John calling through the blast and the eclipse
Crying with the trumpet, with the trumpet of his lips,
Trumpet that sayeth ha!
Domino gloria!
Don John of Austria
Is shouting to the ships.

King Philip’s in his closet with the Fleece about his neck
(Don John of Austria is armed upon the deck.)
The walls are hung with velvet that is black and soft as sin,
And little dwarfs creep out of it and little dwarfs creep in.
He holds a crystal phial that has colours like the moon,
He touches, and it tingles, and he trembles very soon,
And his face is as a fungus of a leprous white and grey
Like plants in the high houses that are shuttered from the day,
And death is in the phial, and the end of noble work,
But Don John of Austria has fired upon the Turk.
Don John’s hunting, and his hounds have bayed—
Booms away past Italy the rumour of his raid
Gun upon gun, ha! ha!
Gun upon gun, hurrah!
Don John of Austria
Has loosed the cannonade.

>> No.15180876

>>15180849
>not only that he was wounded in combat, shot 5 times losing the use of his left arm.
CORRECT MY FRIEND! Wow, I was starting to think I was the only one on here who knew any history! If I recall correctly, he was below deck with a severe fever and once he saw just how close the action was getting to his sgip, he put a sword in his hand and stumbled upstairs to die like a man, father than risk being turned over to one of the Jewish butchers/torture specialists the turks kept for such such things. (sp?)--the governor of Cyprus-- and him being skinned to death while still alive by a Jewish butcher was what sent the Venetians into Lepanto looking for blood.
The torture of Bragadino is still being depicted on a column in aChurch in Cyprus. Years later, someone stole back his skin from the Ottomans and it was given a proper burial behind the column in the church.

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IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED, go to YT and search for "Seige of Malta, audiobook." The newest ad best one is on audible, but if you sign up now you get 2 books for free and tou can cancel if you're not happy.
If you don't have a CC or simply don't want to go through all that hassle, there's another audiobook on the seige of Malta written by a Brit Offier who took part in the 2nd great seige of that island some 400 years later.
It's completely free, and while you are in lockdown I highly recommend spending 8 pr 9 hours learning about that seige. You will not regret it, it's an amazing tale..... go to YT "seige of Malta, Audiobook"

>> No.15180963

if you haven't already, this
>>15178362 which is imo even better than part 1
or you can move to count of monte cristo. I read both on a summer 9 years ago and they were great readings

>> No.15181679

>>15180963
I love both parts equally, the first part was slower than the second but had more iconic adventures.