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>using "reconstructed pronunciation" in Latin or Greek
ISHYGDDT

>> No.15174553

Weni widi wiki

>> No.15174573
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15174573

>Why yes I use reconstructed pronunciation meme
>So what if 2 people can't agree on what it actually was like, nobody can pronounce it correctly either way, the "evidence" is often anecdotal and conflicting, I use artifical, ugly conventional pronunciation that no one ever used and test everything as hieroglyphics?

>> No.15174633
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15174633

>No its not thikei it's "dickayoy"

>> No.15174736
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>Nooooooo you can't follow the thousands years tradition you have to follow the shaky conjecture some academic made up and no one can agree on!

>> No.15174766
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15174766

>Why, yes, I speak in Latin with a German accent. How could you tell?

>> No.15174809

>Cogheetantee meehee sah-eh-peh numero et memoria woo-eh-teh-rah
>Kahtehbehn cthes eh-ees peh-ee-rah-ee-ah
Reconstructionfags

>> No.15174837
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15174837

>pretending modern and ecclesiastical pronunciations are the ones of antiquity
cringe

>> No.15174872

>Tah-oo-tah eh-ee-poh-n omen loghou ah-peh-llakh-thah-ee, to d' en ara, os eh-oh-ee-keh
Imagine pronouncing shit like this and not seeing any problem

>Mah-ghnah nobis pueris, quinte frater, si memoria tenes, opinio fuit Licinium Crassum non plus atigheesse doctri-nah-eh

>> No.15174878

>>15174837
You don't even follow your "reconstructions" yourself.

>> No.15174900

>>15174736
>you must pronounce multiple different letters the same way; it's tradition

>> No.15174916

>>15174900
Yes.

>> No.15174938

>>15174900
>you must pronounce this letter as I say (which no-one can actually do correctly nor will anyone ever) according to "evidence" even though this other academic says you should pronounce it this other way

>> No.15174939

Extant pronounciations derived from medieval periods represent language deterioration.

>> No.15174973

>>15174939
... except they were used by late antiquity

>> No.15174983

>>15174938
t. verbally impaired

>> No.15174998

Scholars understand history better than clerics and nationalist larpers.

>> No.15175022

>>15174983
How do you pronounce Greek and Latin? If you actually correctly follow all the "reconstructions" and speak it as a classical-times native (and not a barbarian trying to mimick them and fit in) would, please upload a recording, I'm curious. (even if there will be people that disagree with some of your reconstructions either way)

>> No.15175055

>>15174998
And that matters, how?

>> No.15175078

>>15174998
As if that could ever give the clerics and larpers pause.

>> No.15175092

DUDE SHAKY CONJECTURES LMAO

>> No.15175103

>>15174509
Both the Romans and the Greeks left behind manuals on pronunciation so that they could learn each others language. Get fucked

>> No.15175122
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15175122

WE ACADEMICS ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN CLAUDIUS OR PETRARCH

>> No.15175136

>>15175103
Poster count didn't update, I know it's you. Why don't you post it? >>15175022

>> No.15175170

>>15174553
The patrician way.

>> No.15175188

>>15175022
Some of the best examples found on a whim.
https://www.youtube.com/user/iostrat/videos
https://youtu.be/sQOXcgI8oJQ

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>>15175170

>> No.15175294 [DELETED] 

>>15175188
>Ioannis Stratakis
Probably the best example one out there but he spent a big fraction of his life and tons of effort working on it, and he still often doesn't get the pitches and lenghts perfect (that is, what theoretically would be 'perfect'), nor will he or any other human being born after ever.

>> No.15175307

>>15175188
>Ioannis Stratakis
Probably the best one out there but he spent a big fraction of his life and tons of effort working on it, and he still often doesn't get the pitches and lenghts perfect (that is, what theoretically would be 'perfect'), nor will he or any other human being born after 3rd century B. C. ever.

>> No.15175366

>>15175307
Also there's certain phonemes on which there is no absolute accademic consensus on.

>> No.15175384

>>15175307
>>15175366
Meanwhile traditionchads never had to worry about this in history nor will they ever.

>> No.15175919

Bump

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15176369

Can someone help me with a latin translation? I want to say
>I doubt it

>> No.15176544

>>15174553
veni vidi vici = ueni uidi uici

Take your disgusting Angloid "w" off my Latin.

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>Tfw don’t speak Latin or Greek