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>be a 70 year old bald-headed fag>walking around athens bullshitting my way into people's houses>everyone i talk to wants to die lol>they all like dem socratic shietttt>arrested for corrupting the youth>lol still fuck kids>can escape, choose not to>choose not to>choose not>But now the time has come to go away. I go to die, and you to live; but which of us goes to the better lot, is known to none but God.
>>15167454Socrates btfo all pagans and Athenians seethed so hard at Socrates (rightly) calling out polytheism/retarded religion and their sophist politicians that they killed him for heresy.In apology, it was the first time Socrates was to court or convicted of a crime. They couldn’t even decide if Socrates was an atheist or bringing a new pantheon. Showing that they were insecure of their persecution. But they still wanted to get rid of him.
>Socrates dindu nuffin he wuz a good boi he went every Sunday to the temple and smoked weed>das tyranny man
>>15167482How the fuck did he btfo pagans if he proved his belief in the same silly shit they did only so he could fuck with Meletus one last time before he goes?
>>15167454>But now the time has come to go away. I go to die, and you to live; but which of us goes to the better lot, is known to none but GodWhich is this quote from again? I looked for it the other day but couldn't find it.
>>15167700Ever googled you geek?
>>15167713You gave yourself the trouble of replying but not answering my question... Is it really so difficult?
>>15167735Its from the Apology dude
>>15167685The soul that Socrates believed in is much different from the mythology of the time.
I like the end of Euthyphro where the dude starts to panic because Socrates is about to steer the conversation into dangerously heretical territory.
>>15167482Not to mention he followed in pythagoras s foot steps and hated beans (fags).
>>15167685This was just like when Ted Bundy told that reporter porn made him do it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfwJeHtrWNIPsychopaths like Socrates get a rise out of toying with others when they're caught red-handed. He was making all of that up to get some laughs before he was (rightfully) executed.
>>15167482This. Not saying it was necessarily a good thing, but Socrates ushered in the slow death of paganism as a worldview.I personally think he was justifiably sentenced. A change from seeing people as parts of a community to individual moral entities.
Does it count as suicide if he willingly drank his death sentence?
>>15168898Socrates is the ultimate chad. He didn't go out crying like a bitch.
>The extant sources agree that Socrates was profoundly ugly, resembling a satyr more than a man—and resembling not at all the statues that turned up later in ancient times and now grace Internet sites and the covers of books. He had wide-set, bulging eyes that darted sideways and enabled him, like a crab, to see not only what was straight ahead, but what was beside him as well; a flat, upturned nose with flaring nostrils; and large fleshy lips like an ass. Socrates let his hair grow long, Spartan-style (even while Athens and Sparta were at war), and went about barefoot and unwashed, carrying a stick and looking arrogant. He didn’t change his clothes but efficiently wore in the daytime what he covered himself with at night. Something was peculiar about his gait as well, sometimes described as a swagger so intimidating that enemy soldiers kept their distance. He was impervious to the effects of alcohol and cold weather, but this made him an object of suspicion to his fellow soldiers on campaign.
>>15168909Except when he cried all about his wrongful judgement.
>>15168916Fucking hell, he even had the Chad Stride
>>15168685How so? It seems more like a restatement of a fairly conservative notion that you can find elsewhere.
>>15168916The ending makes him sound like an actual satyr.
>>15168825Porn did make him do it. It rots the souls. You hate Platon and the truth which is why you want to kill them. You are the sociopath and you might kill the messenger but truth will never die no matter how you hate it.
>>15169143>truth will never die no matter how you hate it.Yeah, the truth that the greeks were pretty gay will never die indeed.
>>15169162The ancient greek masses were sodomites and Platon and Socrātes rebuked them. That's why they were reviled and hated. Platon says in numerous dialogues the insanity of lust and explicitly condemns sodomy in Laws.
>>15168916>Alcibiades wanted to get banged by this
>>15169265Turns out "just b ur self bro" works when you are Socrates
>>15169234Imagine believing this shit hahahaha
Stop humiliating yourself, loser. We've got plenty of instances of male lovers even in Plato's works.>b-but the original text doesn't say homosexualityit doesn't, but Plato is precisely referencing the Tyrannicides and the fact that despotic governments hated male lovers because of these two lovers who attempted to thwart the athenian tirannyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmodius_and_AristogeitonAlso here's a full list of fag relationships, try to disprove them, revisionist moron.https://www.boywiki.org/en/Historical_boylove_relationships_in_ancient_Greece
>>15169405I'm convinced that the greeks were actually homos and my life was a lie. I'm going to leave this board forever and off myself because I'm a total fucking faggot who doesn't belong with /lit/ intellectuals. Goodbye.
>>15169405That is a fake quote in your image. The one in the former image is from Laws and is clearly real. The rest of your argument is cope by sickos with interpretive lisence (DUDE YOU SEE HISTORIANS THINK THIS DUDE WAS A MASSIVE HOMOPHOBE SO THATS WHY PLATO MUST HAVE SAID THIS LET ME PUBLISH THIS PSEUD THEORY IN MY QUEER STUDIES JOURNAL) and deliberate mistranslation of the word love to imply romantic and sexual connections which clearly isn't what Platon meant.Also>boywikiPlaton would have had sodomites executed in his Republic.
>>15169349Read symposium vlakadi
>>15169440http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1600/1600-h/1600-h.htmyou're a fucking moron
>>15169460>reading translationsnever was gonna make it in the first place. sodomite cope.
>>15169405Plato didn't say this. This quote was a part of Phaedrus's speech, recorded by Plato in the Symposium. Plato wasn't even there.
>>15169482>doesn't know Plato used his characters as mouthpiecesi can't even
>>15169477The quote was out of context and deliberately misconstrued so as to give an endorsement of the vile practice of men having 'sex' with men. You're the moron.
>>15169488TIL that Plato agreed with Thrasymachus
>>15169496this is what grasping at straws look like
>>15169488>all characters are his mouthpieceWrong. The fact that he contradicts this in Laws is proof that Phaedreus was not Plato or representative of his thought.
>>15169506>TILgo back to r/christianity
>>15169511>this is what projecting looks like
>>15169522Yeah i'm pretty sure that all his dialogues about his friends nodding a hundreds times at him were totally realistic dialogues. >>15169527You can cope all you want but it won't change the fact that bisexuality was the norm in the ancient world.
>>15169530It was the norm which is why Plato rebuked it.
>>15169539>rebukes it in 2 dialogues out of dozens of dialogues>all that lusting after Allcibiades was just a prank lolcope
>>15169550>a sick mind seeing sick things cope. you better get some spiroacotone or kill yourself, sodomite.
>>15169589>incel>not a sick mindyou're so fucking sad
>>15169615>nooooo you must be an incel if you hate sodomy
>>15169628I said that in another thread, only a fucking sperglord would seethe so hard at other people's sexual preferences.
>>15169506Thrasymachus and Callices were spot on. Socrates just threw a bunch of spooks and then ranted about an afterlife divine punishment (doesn't exist).
>>15169460Socrates' speech in Symposium is anti-homosexuality. The pro- one is from a different guy, Euryximachus or something.
>>15169641>its just a preference bro not a gross insult against nature impelled by my slavery to pleasure
>>15169440It's real but not from Socrates' speech. Plato generally used Socrates to portray his own ideas.
>>15169550It is Alcibiades that lusts after Socrates, who in turn rebukes him.
>>15169234>Platon and Socrātes
>>15169830Heh heh funny meme image
>>15169830seething bugman homo