The veil has been lifted

[Anonymous No.15151101]

The deluded jiva thinks
>''I am this body''
The self has no attachment
to His carriage
Foolish is just ignorance!

[Anonymous No.15151127]

>posting the cryptobuddhist shankara

Shankara refuted himself by stealing from Buddhism.

[Anonymous No.15151131]

>>15151101
The deluded man thinks
pains alleviate pain
The deluded man thinks
enjoyment of pleasures
gives happiness.

[Anonymous No.15151157]

>>15151131
so what gives happiness according to shankara?

[Anonymous No.15151222]

>>15151157
The intelligent man,
whos mind is free from
confusion knows pleasures
and sorrows to be alike


>>15151127
read shankara commentaries on upanishads with awakened eyes one clearly sees nonduality prior to buddhism also assuming you're not a bot which is unlikely since at any post any time of day first reply . Bot program

[Anonymous No.15151260]

>>15151101
>>15151222
This requires nonsense like soul(s).
Consciousness is a caricature artist. It lies constantly.
Why would I want to believe it's God or the Big Unity, if I know it's a liar?
Come on dude, Advaita and Trika are bullshit, get with Taoist and Nahua process monism, ya bitch

[Anonymous No.15151349]

>>15151260
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDd3iupKUyI
Mind is only an object of experience , one is only known when the observer is observed
>Belief
Only knowledge through brutal realization that cuts all illusions .
Mind and body are unstable and changing how can your real self be unstable and changing?merely a suit one would inhabit upon incarnation, problems of the mind and body are not your problems just as the problems of your car are problems of the car and not the self.

[Anonymous No.15151413]

>>15151349
Wishful thinking.
You *hope* that there's an observer (how is such NOT "mind"?) And you *hope* it's external and eternal.
As for these statements about the "real" self, how do you know any self is real at all?
Maya-shakti controls even Mahavishnu. How can you hope to do anything without getting on Adi Parashakti's good side?
Which would be hope for grace.

Faith upon faith.
Say as much and realize your ideology is as flawed as any other.

Fuck, you don't even understand process Metaphysics anyway, what's the point

[Anonymous No.15151470]

>>15151413
>hope
There is no center in the brain for observing the brain
In direct knowledge all illusion is dispelled , the knower the known and knowledge are one
The sun ,moon and fire.

To the unrealized it seems unreal due to Maya, you only have to observe the observer .
>cope

[Anonymous No.15151538]

>>15151157
Spamming Guenon threads, killing grannies and delivering pizzas.

[Anonymous No.15151553]

>>15151470
Your mind is in fact that model, the brain modeling itself using consciousness. That's why it's so problematic.
Direct experience is consciousness. Consciousness is a caricature artist and a liar.

Your move.

[Anonymous No.15151709]

>>15151553
Why have all material models failed?
Doesnt even explain out of body experiences
How can the mind experience others as it self in samadhi?

[Anonymous No.15151769]

>>15151101
why shouldn't I kill myself?

[Anonymous No.15151812]

>>15151769
You should though

>There is nothing more futile than to consciously look for something to save you. But consciousness makes this fact seem otherwise. Consciousness makes it seem as if (1) there is something to do; (2) there is somewhere to go; (3) there is something to be; (4) there is someone to know. This is what makes consciousness the parent of all horrors, the thing that makes us try to do something, go somewhere, be something, and know someone, such as ourselves, so that we can escape our MALIGNANTLY USELESS being and think that being alive is all right rather than that which should not be.
~Ligotti

[Anonymous No.15151846]

>>15151709
You'll like this'n

https://b-ok.xyz/book/3877859/d2a2db

[Anonymous No.15151857]

>>15151101
>Muh substance dualism

[Anonymous No.15151858]

>>15151769
If you wanted to you would have already done so

[Anonymous No.15151878]

>>15151709
>Why have all material models failed?
Have you read any materials on Process Metaphysics?
I understand Whitehead is hard to get through, but at least try Aztec Philosophy: Understanding A World In Motion by Maffie, it's very accessible.

[Anonymous No.15151885]

>>15151858
If you wanted to have sex you would have done it already

[Anonymous No.15151893]

>>15151769
If you only knew yourself as awareness in liberation and how effortless it can be to intuitively control the energy inside , making yourself feel great pleasure with just few buttons on right points in body/brain, if i could share this bliss with u anon

[Anonymous No.15151925]

>>15151885
sex and death and sex and death and sex and death

[Anonymous No.15151929]

>>15151893
You could though. Teach him to chant hari krishna.
HARI KRISHNA HARI KRISHNA
KRISHNA KRISHNA HARI HARI
HARI RAM HARI RAM
RAM RAM HARI HARI

[Anonymous No.15151932]

>>15151878
Read advaita vedanta pointers why we are not the mind as it is an object in our experience
>>15151857
>muh

[Anonymous No.15151983]

>>15151932
But how is mind being defined? The mechanical stuff outside consciousness like imagery or internal monologue?
Consciousness is another machine, friend. Read Graziano.

[Anonymous No.15152086]

>>15151983
That imagine seems to conflate consciousness with what is the experience of consciousness , where is that from?
Different philosophies different views what matters most is practicality in the end.

[Anonymous No.15152373]

“Once we become conscious, even dimly, of the Atman, the Reality within us, the world takes on a very different aspect. It is no longer a court of justice but a kind of gymnasium. Good and evil, pain and pleasure, still exist, but they seem more like the ropes and vaulting-horses and parallel bars which can be used to make our bodies strong. Maya is no longer an endlessly revolving wheel of pain and pleasure but a ladder which can be climbed to consciousness of the Reality.”
― Adi Shankaracarya

[Anonymous No.15152848]

>>15152086
The experiencer is your body.
Attention is a physical process and it tracks things. Awareness is when attention tracks itself, Consciousness emerges from that, a modeler, it takes the sense data tracked by attention, and makes a quick sketch limited enough to be acted upon irl, while rich enough to be useful.
There's no magic ghost watching all this.

[Anonymous No.15152898]

>>15152373
Technically any realization that gives one a sense of their limitation and scale will do this.
Big mountain range views from a peak, contemplation of NASA space pictures, having a kid. LSD.

[Anonymous No.15154335]

>>15152848
Still does not explain reincarnation
>>15152898
Those are temporary but not permanent realization that truly transforms you