Spanish General Thread

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Spanish General Thread OuPi Mon, Apr 20, 2020 10:36:53 No.15148503 [Reply] [Original]

/SpGT/ #13 -

>Welcome to the official thread for Spanish /lit/erature. Feel free to contribute with reviews on your favourite authors, books, fragments, own works (so we can criticize them :), new editions or publications, and the like...

>previous threads:
>>15070607
>>15065461
>>15111998

>Currently reading:
Lazarillo de Tormes (I guess)

>Galizian, Catalonian, Basque... speakers welcome.

OuPi Mon, Apr 20, 2020 10:43:30 No.15148539
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>OFFICIAL RESULTS FROM THE TOP-15 POLL:
>Don Quijote de la Mancha: 32 votes, 11%
>Ficciones (Borges): 28 votes, 9%
>Pedro Páramo (Juan Rulfo): 24 votes, 8%
>El Aleph (Borges): 22 votes, 7%
>Antología (de Rubén Darío): 18 votes, 6%
>Cien años de soledad (García Márquez): 16 votes, 5%
>Cuentos completos (Julio Cortázar): 15 votes, 5%
>Concierto barroco (Alejo Carpentier): 14 votes, 5%
>El gaucho Martín Fierro (José Hernández): 14 votes, 5%
>Episodios Nacionales (Galdós): 13 votes, 4%
>Terra nostra (Fuentes): 12 votes, 4%
>El laberinto de la soledad (Octavio Paz): 12 votes, 4%
>Yo, el supremo (Augusto Roa Bastos): 12 votes, 4%
>Residencia en la Tierra (Neruda): 11 votes, 4%
>Confabulario (Arreola): 11 votes, 4%

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 10:49:42 No.15148577 >>15148503 DO NOT LEARN CATALAN t. Catalonian

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 10:51:15 No.15148588 hola muchachos espero no incomodar su hilo para un latino que nunca a leido a su propia gente, por donde podria o deberia empezar?

>>	OuPi Mon, Apr 20, 2020 10:51:19 No.15148590 >>15148577 is following Catalonian memers on IG ok, though?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 10:59:20 No.15148642 >>15148588 Start with the greeks, then we talk. And please, post in english. Nah, just kidding, start with Horacio Quiroga and Borges.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 11:08:46 No.15148710 works written in the 19th century that have the most beatiful prose and are good for expanding ones own vocabulary? No socialist/antimonarchy/Anti church/Anti catholic treatises please

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works written in the 19th century that have the most beatiful prose and are good for expanding ones own vocabulary? No socialist/antimonarchy/Anti church/Anti catholic treatises please

>>	OuPi Mon, Apr 20, 2020 11:13:14 No.15148737 >>15148710 Pérez Galdós.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 11:14:02 No.15148741 >>15148577 Mexican mestizo here Can i marry one of your women?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 11:17:44 No.15148768 >>15148741 Only if you don't vote independentist when you move to Catalonia.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 11:33:14 No.15148878 >>15148588 Borges, Bolaño, Cortázar, Márquez, Llosa. >>15148577 Ves-te'n a pixar estepes

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 11:37:39 No.15148908 >>15148577 catalan just sounds like spaniard's attempting and failing to speak french

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:07:10 No.15149090 >>15148878 García Márquez, Vargas Llosa

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:10:03 No.15149107 >>15149090 Como tu prefieras, cariño

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:31:07 No.15149223 >>15149107 kek

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:35:42 No.15149239 File: 470 KB, 1143x1600, d23419cde894facc4a7b12d6ccb5111d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wonder how chartanon is doing with improving the top 15, hope he edited in Canto general bless his soul

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:38:06 No.15149252 hola mi henchez

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:39:36 No.15149260 File: 2.18 MB, 960x1280, EVK1vViU8AE26YA.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are you reading in quarantine, morons?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:39:47 No.15149262 >>15148741 Isn't this what Outis Lee did?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:40:28 No.15149265 >>15149260 La Galatea by Cervantes

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:40:30 No.15149267 >>15148908 Puedes decir eso de casi cualquier lengua romance.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:40:58 No.15149272 >>15148503 este hilo es para los hablantes del español o para los anons españoles? Gran diferencia entre ambos.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:43:16 No.15149288 >>15149260 El Quijote y Los griegos de Kitto. Ahora voy a empezar con una colección de cuentos en alemán. >>15149272 Este hilo es para cualquiera al que le interese la literatura en español. Dicho esto SUDACAS RAUS

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:44:28 No.15149296 >>15149288 si, pero la literature del continente americano q habla español o la "literatura" de españa?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:44:36 No.15149299 >>15149267 Except Italian, Spanish and French.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:45:41 No.15149303 >>15149296 los dos

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:46:08 No.15149307 >>15149296 >t. autist

Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:47:10 No.15149318
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>>15149260
El Tal te ching traducido por Gastón Soublette; anteriormente «Prisión verde» de Ramón Amaya Amador - luego planeo leer «El doncel de don Enrique el doliente» por Larra o, quizás, «Yo, el supremo».
Sino esos dos estoy entre «Concierto barroco» y «El estudiante de Salamanca». Ayudadme a decidir.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:48:22 No.15149329 >>15149296 Vos no seras autista por un casual

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:50:03 No.15149340 >>15149299 >Portuguese just sounds like a frenchman attempting to speak Spanish >Italian sounds like a catalan failing to speak Spanish >etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:52:17 No.15149360 >>15149340 What about Spanish?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:54:06 No.15149369 >>15149360 Like an italian failing to speak Catalan. Most of these are interchangeable, all of them are very similar except Romanian and maybe French because of the phonology.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:54:56 No.15149376 >>15149360 badly pronounced Latin but this is true for all Romance languages

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:55:32 No.15149383 >>15149369 >Like an italian failing to speak Catalan. But Catalan just "sounds like spaniard's attempting and failing to speak french", remember? So this makes no sense.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:56:23 No.15149387 >>15149383 >this makes no sense. That's exactly my point

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:56:34 No.15149390 >>15149376 Is French even Latin-based? It's the shittiest language I've ever heard.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:56:44 No.15149392 >>15148588 Buenos dígitos. Dale a los cuentos de Cortázar.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:57:36 No.15149399 >>15149387 You got me good, mate.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:58:46 No.15149406 >>15149260 Estoy en Holanda. Mi roomie normie me dio un libro de Isabel Allende, es lo único que podría leer y antes me suicido

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:59:53 No.15149412 >>15149406 >Mi roomie normie me dio un libro de Isabel Allende lol where are you from?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 12:59:54 No.15149413 >>15149406 >no tengo libros en casa Parece tu culpa, pendejo. No le eches la culpa a tu compañero.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 13:00:17 No.15149414 >>15149390 Yes. Under the Roman empire, the plebs mixed whatever regional dialect they used with the elegant Latin, which they did by ear.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 13:03:03 No.15149433 >>15149413 Pues sí Anon. Vine a hacer un master de un año y preferí comprar aquí cosas en vez de traer mi biblioteca. Tendré que adaptarme a leer en pdf o a shitpostear en 4chan

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 13:04:33 No.15149445 >>15149433 Comprate un ereader que se paga a los 4 libros que leas. Además vas a leer en otros idiomas y tener un diccionario/traductor incorporado es la polla.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 13:04:54 No.15149446 >>15149414 So that's why French is animal tier. Good to know, Anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 13:07:59 No.15149466 >>15149446 Igual te crees que al resto de lenguas romances no les pasó lo mismo.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 13:10:59 No.15149481 >>15149466 They aren't as fucked up, though. I guess the French Academy is also to blame for French sucking so much these days.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 13:13:01 No.15149496 >>15149446 Gj shitting on french, glad i wasnt the only one that thought it sounded shitty

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 13:37:20 No.15149648 >>15149496 >Gj shitting on french Qué nivel, Maribel.

>>	OuPi Mon, Apr 20, 2020 13:41:04 No.15149677 >>15149260 Revenge of the Lawn, nice to read, and funny. >>15149296 You are welcome either way.

>>	OuPi Mon, Apr 20, 2020 13:42:07 No.15149689 >>15149445 basado

Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 13:56:03 No.15149791

>>15149466
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>>15149406
>>15149392
>>15149318
>>15149329
>>15149303
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>>15149267
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>>IN ATTENTION TO JANNIES AND MODS, USE ONLY ENGLISH FOR POSTS BELOW THIS LINE<<<

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 14:05:01 No.15149850 >>15149689 A mi no me vuelvas a responder, namefag.

>>	OuPi Mon, Apr 20, 2020 14:22:07 No.15149978 >>15149850 Ok, no problem :D

>>	OuPi Mon, Apr 20, 2020 14:23:10 No.15149991 >>15149850 but, when do I start?

>>	OuPi Mon, Apr 20, 2020 14:24:39 No.15149999 >>15149850 Now?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 14:27:34 No.15150025 >>15148735 pls respond

>>	OuPi Mon, Apr 20, 2020 14:28:41 No.15150035 >>15150025: >>15148737

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 14:29:09 No.15150040 >>15150025 stfu shitcano, people are bored about your nonsense.

>>	OuPi Mon, Apr 20, 2020 14:34:41 No.15150075 >>15150040 fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 15:00:49 No.15150286 >>15150040 Just ignore him.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 16:38:45 No.15151073 Late night bomp

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 16:40:37 No.15151090 >>15150075 cringe >>15150286 based

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 16:47:40 No.15151142 File: 129 KB, 600x1035, ff3b7404-82b1-11df-acc7-002185ce6064_53.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do you even read, bro

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 17:00:36 No.15151232 >>15151142 bruh

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 18:09:33 No.15151851 >>15149433 Un master acerca de qué? Que area estudias anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 18:10:35 No.15151863 >>15151142 basado

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 19:40:34 No.15152543 File: 315 KB, 2028x1154, 1534545711111.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ñ meme trilogy

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 19:41:20 No.15152545 >>15148577 too late, they forced me cagon deu

Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 20:03:20 No.15152710

>>15152543
I insist Los Sorias should be replaced by either Bolaño's 2666 or Cortázar's Rayuela.
2666 is a perfect memebook. And just fucking read Rayuela to make up your mind about its memehood.
That being said Terra Nostra is magnificent, Paradiso seems a good fit too.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 20:42:03 No.15152965 >>15152710 Confirmo lo que dice este pendejo. O poner los cinco, a la verga, cuesta solo unos minutos y cientos de KB.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 21:13:25 No.15153143 What Porrua books do you recommend to buy? I'm a mexican poorfag thanks to Corona-chan and I like physical books.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 21:16:06 No.15153161 >>15153143 Fiction? Non-fiction? Poetry? What are you into? t. fellow Mexican

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 21:19:52 No.15153194 File: 326 KB, 2028x1142, 1587426034769.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15152710 >>15152965 Done.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 21:23:06 No.15153215 >>15153161 Preferably anthologies, collections and fiction in general. Note: I have "Antología del cuento hispanoamericano" and "Antología de cuentos de misterio y terror" 2 great anthos in my opinion both by Porrua.

Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 22:03:51 No.15153452

>>15153215
From a quick search:
Cuentos (Horacio Quiroga)
Vidas imaginarias - La cruzada de los niños (Marcel Schwob)
La guerra de los mundos -La máquina del tiempo (H.G. Wells)
Gog - El libro negro (Giovanni Papini)
La isla del tesoro - Cuentos de los mares del sur (Robert Louis Stevenson)
Gargantua y Pantagruel (François Rabelais)
Sin novedad en el frente (Erich Maria Remarque)
Niebla (Miguel de Unamuno)
Moby Dick o la ballena blanca (Herman Melville)
Bola de sebo - Mademoiselle Fifí - Las hermanas Rondoli (Guy de Maupassant)
El llamado de la selva - Colmillo blanco (Jack London)
Narraciones extraordinarias (Edgar Allan Poe)

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 22:13:16 No.15153493 >>15153215 (contd) Cuentos rusos (Varios) Cuentos escogidos (Anton Chéjov) Cuentos escogidos (Leo Tolstoi) Cuentos romanos (Alberto Moravia)

Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 22:32:45 No.15153597
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I let this here, both,the videos' list and the book were interesting for me because I like history, I wanted to know more deeply Spain besides knowing and selecting well literary material and being a good approach and introduction to Spanish literature

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-sELkniKtgj4VOetcdRe9dX4oaRaKVM-

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 22:43:05 No.15153633 >>15152543 >>15152543 >not Don Quixote >not "100 años de soledad" is 'meme' a lie?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 22:46:48 No.15153651 >>15153633 Those aren't memes.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 22:48:04 No.15153661 >>15153651 so memes are lies?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 22:50:42 No.15153673 >>15153661 Do you really want a meme trilogy with Don Quixote and 100 años de soledad?

Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 22:52:04 No.15153678

>>15153651
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme
>A meme is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture—often with the aim of conveying a particular phenomenon, theme, or meaning represented by the meme.[

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 22:53:18 No.15153687 >>15153673 no. I just don't understand the meaning you are giving to meme

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 22:54:57 No.15153695 File: 131 KB, 661x499, 234232342342323.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw the translation is cheaper than the original book Fucking Spanish publishers, why are they such fucking Jews?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 22:57:49 No.15153705 >>15153678 kek that's too formal, we're talking Urban Dictionary tier definition of "meme" here.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 22:58:50 No.15153715 >>15153687 Don't worry, I'm a meme expert, leave this to the pros.

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>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:00:50 No.15153726 >>15153695 >why is an 800 page long book printed in Spain more expensive than a 400 page long book printed in America Sorey but this is how dumb you sound.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:05:15 No.15153741 >>15153724 what is the master piece of the LatAm literature? say the top 2 or top 3 titles

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:08:41 No.15153755 is it right, mostly right, in between or mostly wrong? >https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Lista_El_Mundo_de_las_100_mejores_novelas_en_espa%C3%B1ol

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:09:47 No.15153759 >>15153755 One Hundred Years of Solitude - Marquez Pedro Paramo - Rulfo Ficciones - Borges

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:09:56 No.15153760 >>15153715 but what's the meaning of the word meme here?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:15:08 No.15153781 a partir de ahora meme tiene una acepción de bulo, mentira. Gracias 4chan

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:17:58 No.15153791 >>15153781 chúpamela

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:19:00 No.15153797 >>15153755 >>15153759 Yea, that's about right. García Márquez* btw

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:21:11 No.15153805 >>15153726 It's 653 pages vs 466 pages. And lots of it has to do with Cátedra printing their shit in small as fuck pages, like the fucking Jews they are.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:26:17 No.15153830 >>15153805 >printing their shit in (an entirely different continent) You forgot the most important aspect

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:26:49 No.15153831 >>15148503 How is op still reading a 100 pg novella jajajajaja

Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:41:08 No.15153887

>>15153759
Pedro Páramo
>trata temas como la muerte, la ruralidad, y la pérdida de esperanzas tras la Revolución Mexicana.

One Hundred Years of Solitude
>Temas centrales: la soledad, el realismo mágico, el incesto

>fuente: wikipedia

A primera vista la literatura latinoamericana parece aburrida, pero no lo es. Me da la impresión de que le falta empuje, visión, ilusión y es melancólica. Pero supongo que es buena y trata temas universales no?

Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:46:26 No.15153908

>>15153830
It still costs 14.20 USD in Spain vs 15.38 USD here. That's not that big a difference. But overall Cátedra is relatively less expensive than giga Jews like Acantilado. I wonder how they justify their insane prices. They must be printing a very small amount of books and/or be deep in debts.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:47:29 No.15153911 >>15153887 La muerte y la soledad son temas muy universales.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:48:30 No.15153913 >>15153831 lolololol OP BTFO

Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:58:10 No.15153951

>>15153887
Durante muchos años preferi la lit rusa, francesa, japonesa, etc. Tenía un prejuicio contra a lit hispana y latinoamericana porque lo poco que conocía me resultaba aburrido (gracias secundaria) y bastante localista (casi las mismas miserias de donde vivo, pero con un acento y un tufillo de gente marrón que seguramente hablaba con una tonada estúpida). Borges era mi ídolo y Cortázar me gustaba bastante, ambos elegantemente europeos y no le hubiera dado una chance a otro latino por nada del mundo. Sábato tenía sus cosas buenas. El otro gran exponente, según mi ignorancia, podría ser García Marquez, que francamente me resultó un gran meh.
Bolaño fue el segundo paso (bastante europeo, casi Borgeano pero con un setting moderno y latino). El siguiente paso, que realmente despertó mi curiosidad, fue Rulfo y algún día leeré al Roa Bastos, Carlos Funes, otra chance para García Marquez, etc.

Creo que a muchos le pasa algo parecido. Malos recuerdos y prejuicios por lecturas obligadas y aburridas, o un desprecio por lo muy familiar.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 20, 2020 23:58:40 No.15153953 >>15153911 pero no va más allà? Hay algún rollo filosófico? Revelador? Catarsis? Que hace con esos temas? Porqué por si solos que tienen de interesante(?)

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 00:04:34 No.15153976 >>15153951 cringe and based

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 00:09:57 No.15153990 File: 42 KB, 368x400, IMG-20200418-WA0012.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Best latinamerican lit. No contest. Not even joking, tho.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 00:12:43 No.15154006 >>15153953 No solo tratan de eso, ¿sí has leído una novela me imagino? Una novela es trama, personajes, estilo, ambientación, etc. Para ver si te gustan o no, habrá que leerlas.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 00:14:35 No.15154014 File: 226 KB, 1110x1500, 1582322917647.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15153990 >Así es, El libro vaquero es mi obra literaria en español favorita, ¿cómo lo supo, compadre?

Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 00:15:47 No.15154018

>>15153953
Estilisticamente Pedro Paramo fue una influencia enorme en el realismo magico. Era de los libros favoritos de Borges y Garcia Marquez. Rulfo basicamente importo el modernismo literario a latinoamerica con ese libro. La atmosfera de estancacion fisica y espiritual que crea es increible. Es algo asi como un viaje al inframundo surreal en un pueblillo mexicano. Te paso uno de mis fragmentos favoritos:

>-¿Y tu alma? ¿Dónde crees que haya ido?
>-Debe andar vagando por la tierra como tantas otras; buscando vivos que recen por ella. Tal vez me odie por el mal trato que le di; pero eso ya no me preocupa. He descansado del vicio de sus remordimientos. Me amargaba hasta lo poco que comía, y me hacía insoportables las noches llenándomelas de pensamientos intranquilos con figuras de condenados y cosas de ésas. Cuando me senté a morir, ella me rogó que me levantara y que siguiera arrastrando la vida, como si esperara todavía algún milagro que me limpiara de culpas. Ni siquiera hice el intento: "Aquí se acaba el camino -le dije-. Ya no me quedan fuerzas para más." Y abrí la boca para que se fuera. Y se fue. Sentí cuando cayó en mis manos el hilito de sangre con que estaba amarrada a mi corazón

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 00:27:55 No.15154080 Reminder: Speak in English or we will end again in /int/ like idiots.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 00:28:58 No.15154090 >>15154014 Chad Libro Vaquero is better than Virgin Vargas Llosa.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 00:31:01 No.15154104 >>15154006 >>15154018 Vale vale, ya creo que pillo el punto... Interesante. Es verdad, se me olvidava la trama, pero es que las tramas ficticias sin más no se que tienen de interesante, creo que lo que me pasa es por mi autismo xD

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 00:43:42 No.15154175 >>15154080 I didn't know that

Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 00:57:54 No.15154219

>>15153831
Maybe he's reading the sequel
>Capítulo III
>Cómo Lázaro de Tormes hecho atún salió de la cueva, y cómo le tomaron las centinelas de los atunes y lo llevaron ante el general.
http://www.cervantesvirtual.com/obra-visor/la-segunda-parte-de-lazarillo-de-tormes-y-de-sus-fortunas-y-adversidades--0/html/

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 01:00:22 No.15154226 File: 29 KB, 480x261, Dvtn6aCX4AAPN9y.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Daily reminder que no lean traducciones de traductores españoles y mucho menos de Anagrama.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 01:00:59 No.15154230 >>15153755 >best novels of the century >about 1/3 of them don't even have a wik page TOP KEK

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 01:03:59 No.15154239 Out of curiosity, are there any swashbuckling, adventure or even fantasy series that primarily draw on hispanic as opposed to anglo-saxon imagery? I know about Capitan Alatriste but there's got to be more.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 01:14:11 No.15154273 File: 294 KB, 1280x597, 1280px-Francisco_Pradilla_y_Ortiz_-_Cortejo_del_bautizo_del_Príncipe_Don_Juan,_hijo_de_los_Reyes_Católicos,_por_las_calles_de_Sevilla.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15154239 Bumpeando esto

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 01:14:36 No.15154275 >>15154239 Zalacaín the Adventurer

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 01:16:34 No.15154278 File: 2.39 MB, 2857x2105, El_vaso_de_agua,_de_José_Moreno_Carbonero_(Museo_del_Prado).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The hispanic æsthetic is truly underrated

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 01:18:20 No.15154283 >>15154275 based barojaposter

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 01:44:04 No.15154372 File: 920 KB, 817x1120, Carlo_II_di_Parma.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 01:46:03 No.15154380 File: 545 KB, 1094x2000, 314289@2x.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this could be your waifu

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 01:47:16 No.15154388 File: 2.61 MB, 1665x2100, P1080752_Louvre_Raphael_Portrait_de_Dona_Isabel_de_Requesens_INV612_rwk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i claim her

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 01:47:56 No.15154390 >>15154388 I already fucked her, bro.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 01:53:49 No.15154412 >>15153493 Great choices and tastes anon! thanks so much for your recommendations, this will help me to make well informed and thoughtful choices.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 01:57:15 No.15154424 >>15154412 No problem, paisano. Take care.

Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 02:18:33 No.15154481

>>15153760
A joke, a lie, a trolling, a shitty or low quality thing, a popular or overrated (onions, normie or incel-tier) thing, a stupid or retarded thing, etc.

I presume you're a newfag, aren't you? Welcome to 4ch, come I'll show you the place, you can sleep here, anon, we will leave at first hour in the morning I will show you the city and all its pleasantries, peculiarities and its dark, ominous side too. Sleep well anon, this gonna be a hell of a ride!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 02:25:58 No.15154510 >>15153990 El libro vaquero < Las chambeadoras. I'm so sorry anon, no contest here.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 03:18:43 No.15154689 >>15153831 He's taking his time

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 04:44:31 No.15155025 >>15148503 Does anyone know what's the best Spanish translation of The Count of Monte-Cristo?

>>	OuPi Tue, Apr 21, 2020 06:57:37 No.15155723 >>15153831 It's more of a communal thing. I haven't even started it, though. I don't feel like it. Idk if somebody else did after we voted for it. >>15154380 traps are gay, anon

>>	OuPi Tue, Apr 21, 2020 08:16:03 No.15156155 Funny how Spaniard literature is barely represented in this thread, specially from Siglo de Oro and onwards. Just sayin'

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 08:37:25 No.15156260 File: 3.16 MB, 1080x2630, 1578389260408.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finally got around to fix the top 15 chart. Opinions? >Why is X not there? Wasn't in the top 15 voted. Blame democracy.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 09:44:35 No.15156628 >>15154226 Read Trainspotting in Anagrama and it was shitte.

>>	OuPi Tue, Apr 21, 2020 09:44:42 No.15156629 >>15156260 Perfect. Thanks chart anón

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 09:48:18 No.15156643 >>15149260 Aramburu's Patria, boils my blood.

>>	OuPi Tue, Apr 21, 2020 09:49:43 No.15156655 >>15156643 How is it? Why does it rustle your jimmies?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 09:52:48 No.15156678 >>15156655 It's quite good, it uses multiple perspectives, from the widow of an honest businessman killed by ETA to the mother of a ETA killer, among all the members of these two families, who used to be close friends.

>>	OuPi Tue, Apr 21, 2020 09:55:00 No.15156697 >>15156678 NIce. I was wandering if I wanted to read it, but I had just finished a 750-pages book, so I didn't feel like starting another "brick". It's in my to-read list, nonetheless.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 09:57:03 No.15156713 I'm reading D. Quixote right now It's an absolute masterpiece, i really should have picked it up sooner if i were to know it would be this good

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 10:02:01 No.15156757 I deeply enjoyed Augustin Fernandez Mallo's Nocilla trilogy a while back. Some interesting narrative techniques and a bizarre awesome third book.

Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 10:05:18 No.15156772

>>15156757
>Está compuesto por 113 fragmentos, capítulos cortos, pequeñas historias que se cruzan, algunas de ellas cortadas sin resolución y que crean, al final, un panorama de toda la obra.
>Algunos temas recurrentes de Nocilla Dream son el US50 y el árbol de zapatos, que sirven para conectar a los personajes
kek

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 10:06:59 No.15156782 >>15156697 It's quite nice to read, it's all 4-5 pages chapters, I also had had it on my backlog for a couple years, but I really wanted to read it before the netflix series came out.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 10:10:33 No.15156796 >>15156782 gotcha

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 10:12:56 No.15156806 >>15148908 spanish just sounds like the catalan attempt of sepaking portuguese

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 10:25:50 No.15156882 File: 58 KB, 832x638, 1587227965310.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15156806 >mfw

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 10:28:20 No.15156895 >>15156882 Me parece bien si sos tontito y necesitas a alguien que te diga que tienes que limpiar tu cuarto. Pero te pediría que no postees sus memes de mierda en este thread cuando /lit/ ya tiene al menos 4 o 5 hilos activos sobre este subnormal.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 10:36:41 No.15156939 File: 442 KB, 1604x902, Jordanfuckyour shit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15156895

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 10:41:11 No.15156964 >>15156260 Era perfecto sin Vargas Llosa. Gracias, chartanon. Y si, es racismo contra los peruanos.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 11:00:05 No.15157084 >>15156628 Ese libro se tiene que leer en el original. Welsh mezcla dialectos británicos, escoceses e incluso Scots con un montón de jerga callejera. Se me hace poco traducible al castellano, al menos sin pérdida de lo que lo hace único.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 11:02:03 No.15157094 >>15156964 Por dar una de cal y otra de arena: cuál es vuestro libro favorito de Vargas Llosa? Solo me he leído La casa verde pero me dejó con ganas de mas.

>>	OuPi Tue, Apr 21, 2020 11:10:33 No.15157167 >>>IN ATTENTION TO JANNIES AND MODS, LET'S USE ONLY ENGLISH ON THE POSTS DOWN BELOW THIS ANNOUNCEMENT. THANK YOU<<<<

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 11:12:36 No.15157184 >>15157167 Bugger off, snitch.

>>	OuPi Tue, Apr 21, 2020 11:12:49 No.15157187 >>15157094 "La ciudad y los perros" is nice

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 11:33:13 No.15157343 >>15157167 Vete a leer el Lazarillo y deja de dar por culo

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 12:03:53 No.15157538 >>15154278 >>15154372 >>15154380 >>15154388 this is not literature, bro

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 13:18:43 No.15158098 >>15157538 Oupi previously asked for images for the General Thread's OP picture, pardon. >>15153194 So this is our official meme trilogy?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 13:21:11 No.15158112 im reading cien años de soledad and loving the insanity that is Macondo but i cant stand the fact that all the male characters are called Arcadio or Aureliano i swear i will flip this book there is like 21 Aurelianos in total.

Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 13:26:31 No.15158140
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>>15158112
That is the point, anon. It is quite normal in more conservative hispanophone areas to still do this, my father's firstborn is named after him, as was his father and his father's father.
It's a way to critque how identity transcends words, however also how the burden of lineage remains: one Aureliano might lose thirty two wars, the other's intento is to vindicate that one. It's an interesting way to make abstract the inhabitants of Macondo, and further create a broad-brushed portrait of the latin american experience.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 13:29:26 No.15158168 >>15158112 I never understood this pleb complaint since I had no problem telling them apart.

Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 13:40:34 No.15158251

>>15158168
It is not a lot about telling them apart because in the book there are changes in the writing that helps with that. The point is more about the way the use of the names makes every aureliano and arcadio molds of each other to the point that makes me uncomfortable like there is a loss of individuality. >>15158140 anon thanks i did not know latin families reused the names, and now that you wrote that i can see how much of it is intentional....even if its annoying as hell.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 13:56:48 No.15158368 >>15158251 >latin families reused the names eh... >Alexandre Dumas père >Alexandre Dumas fils >Paul Sr. >Paul Jr. >William Gates III

OuPi Tue, Apr 21, 2020 13:59:24 No.15158392

No voy a seguir creando ni manteniendo estos hilos. Sencillamente he perdido el intereés tras 13 hilos, sobre todo tras completar el top-15.

Falta literatura de España y moderna, a mi gusto. Lo cual no es malo en sí. Senciallmente no me interesa mí.

El hilo puede seguir, de todas maneras. Tampoco es que me vaya de /lit/ o del Internet...

Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 14:03:53 No.15158427

>>15158392
Spaniards don't even know fucking English, thar's why their shit isn't voted here and not included in their charts. Furthermore, Spaniards fell for the realism meme and their shit is soulless and dull in the 20th century (besides some exceptions).

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 14:08:37 No.15158460 what is up with this guppy character? is it an intricate shitpost or is he truly delusional

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 15:28:59 No.15159043 >>15157094 I have no favourite book of Vargas Llosa because it's shit. I've read la ciudad y los perros, el sueño del celta, la fiesta del chivo y la guerra del fin del mundo. None of them are good.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 15:37:58 No.15159124 >>15158392 >Tampoco es que me vaya de /lit/ o del Internet... Sí, por desgracia no caerá esa breva

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 16:31:53 No.15159514 >>15158392 Good riddance

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 16:57:48 No.15159735 >>15158392 Por mi no vuelvas, Manolo.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 17:02:26 No.15159776 >>15157094 guerra del fin del mundo = conversacion en la catedral > casa verde > ciudad y los perros > (orgia perpetua >) fiesta del chivo > pantaleon y las visitadoras > tia julia

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 17:03:16 No.15159787 >>15159735 >>15159514 this

Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 17:04:31 No.15159802
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I'm into long books like The Magic Mountain, The Man Without Qualities, War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov. Any recommendation based on that?

Also what is Paradiso about?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 17:07:47 No.15159840 >>15159802 2666, Don Quijote, Terra Nostra

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 17:39:34 No.15160081 >>15158392 >Falta literatura de España True, but no one really suggests shit. >Moderna Modern literature is trash.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 18:06:44 No.15160271 >>15149318 Decidí leer el Enquiridion pero ya casi termino, porfavor ayudadme con mi siguiente libro.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 18:54:48 No.15160649 >>15158392 Yeah. Sod off and never come back.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 19:04:10 No.15160727 File: 149 KB, 1280x960, IMG-20190418-WA0014.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15158392 That's understandable, thanks for setting all of this in motion OP >pic unrelated

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 19:41:31 No.15161024 File: 38 KB, 622x644, FB942C45E0E2AD453ED7277A27FFA7DE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15152543 >Laiseca Tell me lit why anything that is in good intention dies on this board.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 21:52:23 No.15161959 Chartanon, if you still here, thank you. And don't forget the Introduction to Borges pls.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 21:54:09 No.15161966 >>15161024 I mate the chart 2 years ago, newfag.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 21, 2020 21:56:15 No.15161985 >>15161024 I made that chart 2 years ago, faggot. Your recent Laiseca memeing is irrelevant

>>	Anonymous Wed, Apr 22, 2020 00:11:28 No.15162696 bump from pg8

>>	Anonymous Wed, Apr 22, 2020 00:13:55 No.15162714 >>15162696 >he doesn't use the Chad Catalog view You fucking Virgin Pager.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Apr 22, 2020 00:23:43 No.15162775 File: 4 KB, 375x137, fucking newfags.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15162714 Let me teach you your new thing for the day, you absolute retard.

>>	OP sucks cocks (sage) Wed, Apr 22, 2020 00:28:25 No.15162801 >>15162775 wow a thing that shows where this shit thread is in the Page view. Enjoy your cutting-edge innovating feature and keep bumping this dead thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Apr 22, 2020 00:59:08 No.15162938 Este thread estará muerto mañana, le dedico un tanka. Espera la noche a que el alba se asome, para así, huir. Vendrá una noche nueva, más no una nueva espera.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Apr 22, 2020 02:27:08 No.15163283 >>15162801 You're making it worse.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Apr 22, 2020 02:31:38 No.15163300 >>15163283 it was never good

>>	Anonymous Wed, Apr 22, 2020 05:29:17 No.15163965 Any thoughts about Fortunata y Jacinta?

>>	OuPi Wed, Apr 22, 2020 06:43:50 No.15164215 Bump chicka bamp bamp

>>	OuPi Wed, Apr 22, 2020 07:24:11 No.15164358 >>15164215 use another name, faggot

>>	OuPi Wed, Apr 22, 2020 07:39:30 No.15164427 >>15164358 I thought you were gone so I decided to take your place as the acting retard

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