/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15148141]

Schopenhauer is cancelled.

[Anonymous No.15148148]

wow, very problematic, there's a lot to unpack here.

[Anonymous No.15148156]

>>15148141
Nietzsche and Aristotle too.

[Anonymous No.15148168]

why are all the "great" writers in the western canon misogynistic, anti-semitic, or racist?

[Anonymous No.15148172]

>>15148141
>Rejecting a philosopher because of his character >not because of his theorems
Leftard roastie detected

[Anonymous No.15148182]

>>15148156
On Nietzsche's alleged 'misogyny', consider the following:

>[…] when the application of a Fräulein Rubinstein from Leipzig to enrol for a Ph.D. programme brought the question of admitting women to the university before the committee of Basel's combined faculties on July 10, 1874, Nietzsche was among the four members who voted for their admission. Because, after a two-hour discussion, six faculty members (including Burckhardt) voted against admission, the motion was lost. But Nietzsche and the other three supporters of the motion must have been upset by the result, because they requested that their dissenting view be explicitly recorded.
(From Friedrich Nietzsche: A Philosophical Biography)

In reply to a friend that suggested Nietzsche should edit a passage which appeared misogynistic:

>Many thanks for picking me up on that. I do not wish to present the appearance of diminishing women and have cut out the whole passage. What is true is that, originally, only men were held to be human beings...the recognition of women as human beings was a great moral advance. My – or our – view of women should not be brought into contact with the word ‘domestic animal’. – I was judging according to [the travel writer, Sir Henry Veel] Huntley's description of the situation of women in primitive tribes.
(KGB 11.5 900)

[Anonymous No.15148186]

>>15148141
the first quote sounds reasonable. You could reverse the genders and it would still be true.
>most people are attracted to the hottest portion of the opposite sex
No shit

[Anonymous No.15148197]

>>15148186
but anon, women are supposed to be pure angels with no earthly desires how could you dare to imply that they are in anyway similar to men who are just driven by animalistic desires

[Anonymous No.15148219]

>>15148182
So these two dubiously sourced quotes are supposed to refute all the things that Nietzsche wrote which denigrated women?
Yeah I don't know about that

[Anonymous No.15148230]

>>15148168
>>15148182
>>15148219
>misogyny
Do people unironically believe that this word has any meaning or significance?

[Anonymous No.15148245]

>>15148230
You mean as opposed to "racism" and "anti-semitism"? Cringe.

[Anonymous No.15148273]

>>15148245
all of these words are just pathetic manipulation tactics

[Anonymous No.15148306]

>>15148168
the sole purpose of white male incels in compiling the western so-called canon was to weaponize their phallic privilege against women of judaism and african-american africans

[Anonymous No.15148320]

>>15148230
everyone who is not a simp or cuck is a misogynist

[Anonymous No.15148337]

>>15148320
so you still subscribe to the world view where having the wrong opinion about a group of people is a thought crime thus you need to identify yourself with the "bad guys" as defined by your opposition

[Anonymous No.15148348]

>>15148306
Pretty hot, ngl

[Anonymous No.15148381]

>>15148182
what a simp

[Anonymous No.15148410]

>>15148168
It is as if all of history's geniuses, having a certain level of insight and intelligence, are again and again brought to the same inescable conclusions...
Based.

[Anonymous No.15148465]

>>15148306
yeah, too bad the blackies are slowly waking up to judaism and who enslaved them in the first place

[Anonymous No.15148468]

>>15148141
based schoppy pleb filtering normalfaggot scum 160 years later

[Anonymous No.15148479]

>>15148230
Yeah because there are actual people who hate women, do you feel outed or something? What's going on? Do you feel indicted by the mere fact that this word exists? Hmhh...

[Anonymous No.15148488]

>>15148182
>But Nietzsche and the other three supporters of the motion must have been upset by the result, because they requested that their dissenting view be explicitly recorded.
LMAOOO so literally the same performative lib virtue signalling shit that goes on today. What a huge fag. "Please tell everybody I was nice to the whore! Otherwise what will the point have been?"

[Anonymous No.15148535]

>>15148479
>i have a negative opinion of women
>>so you are a misogynist
>k
>>but i just defined you in a negitive way and also tried to insinuate that you have a low social status, this thus means that your opinion is wrong and shouldn't be taken seriously
>k

[Anonymous No.15148584]

>>15148141
>ewe

[Anonymous No.15148591]

>>15148535
Based
Fuck women tho

[Anonymous No.15148605]

>>15148479
>Yeah because there are actual people who hate women,
yeah but we already have several words for those people.
Based, Chad, etc.

[Anonymous No.15148619]

>>15148168
Why indeed. Perhaps it tells us something about women.

[Anonymous No.15148658]

>>15148535
Lol, so you admit you're just upset that you are being indicted by the mere existence of the word. I don't think you are "above and beyond" the criticism you receive by your cultural peers... I think you are operating on some kind of Nietzschen slave-revolt, because you are tired of feeling guilty for hating women. Sad!

[Anonymous No.15148675]

>>15148658
sorry, can't understand you with all the cock in your mouth

[Anonymous No.15148706]

>>15148658
>upset that you are being indicted by the mere existence of the word
what i'm saying is that i consider that word as the equivalent of calling someone a "poopoohead"

[Anonymous No.15148714]

>>15148706
Ony because you are terrified of being called that, so you want the word eradicated. Very sad!

[Anonymous No.15148715]

>>15148658
You want a word of advice from a lurker?
You need to get rid of your twitter woke whore ethics. embrace the 4chan post-modern contrarian nihilistic faggot ethics or else you'll get called out every single time. learn to fit in stupid faggot.

[Anonymous No.15148726]

>>15148715
Top kek, been here since 2009, dishonest faggots will remain dishonest faggots worthy of calling out.

[Anonymous No.15148727]

>>15148715
>the 4chan post-modern contrarian nihilistic faggot ethics
uh this is a board of naive empathic moralism sweatie

[Anonymous No.15148745]

>>15148715
>post-modern contrarian nihilistic faggot ethics
but this way people will call you a plebbit tips fedora

[Anonymous No.15148746]

>>15148141
>Tetragamy adjusted marriage into an institution that would make life better for men and women, Schopenhauer theorized, because it accommodated the natural sexual and reproductive capacities of humans in ways in which monogamy did not. It also addressed the material and financial needs of all parties in a more rational way. Two young men should marry a young woman, and when she outgrew her reproductive ability, and thereby lost her attractiveness to her husbands, the two men should marry another young woman who would "last until the two young men were old."
Schoppy advocated for wife sharing and cuckoldry; he was a massive cuck faggot.

[Anonymous No.15148777]

>>15148714
i'm saying that i don't understand why others take it as some form of objection, reread my initial post sweetie

[Anonymous No.15148780]

>>15148141
Nothing he said was wrong though

[Anonymous No.15148805]

Personally, I can't wait for the final sexual revolution when women will fornicate with whomever they want while impregnating themselves solely with turkey basters and the sperm of fit >6'0" males. Porn will be pervasive, Incels will gradually go extinct due to their inviability, and the race will progress toward a beautiful and tall utopian future. In order to achieve sexual egalitarianism, we must not stoop to the filth, but rise to the ideal. Schopenhauer, as a bitter and resentful beta, will naturally fall by the wayside.

[Anonymous No.15148819]

>>15148777
>Do people unironically believe that this word has any meaning or significance?
It obviously has meaning, as it is a word with a use, and no one will believe you are genuinely surprised that people don't want to tolerate people who hate women categorically. Stop acting dense you dumb dishonest nigger.

[Anonymous No.15148830]

>>15148141

oh no, the tumber feministas have completely abandoned their readings of Schoppenhauer

[Anonymous No.15148834]

>>15148777
>i don't understand why others take it as some form of objection
you have to be over 18 to post

[Anonymous No.15148841]

>>15148746
>you and your bro running through milfs
sounds kinda based

[Anonymous No.15148865]

>>15148841
it is based as long as you're not marrying and financially supporting the sluts that you and your bro bang

[Anonymous No.15148877]

>>15148819
What if i called you a witch?
It obviously has a meaning, as it's a word with use, and in the past people would have taken that accusation very seriously even though neither witches nor witchcraft were never real.
Would you consider being called a witch as a valid objection of any of your actions or opinions? What would you think of the people who take this accusation seriously?

[Anonymous No.15148900]

>>15148877
So again, you are denying that some people hate women? Are you fucking retarded? Are you either claiming a) the word doesn't reference any real objects (dishonest retard take) or b) it's emotionally and politically charged, which is true, but you're being a retarded faggot for acting surprised about this.

NIGGER

[Anonymous No.15148917]

>>15148877
The person you're quoting is an unfunny faggot arguing in bad faith, there will be no concession or real interaction with your point. It is likely a tranny poster

[Anonymous No.15148923]

>>15148900
>you are denying that some people hate women?
No, i'm saying that calling someone a "wiman hater" has no impact on the truth value of his claims.
Is it clear now?
>NIGGER
Why would you keep using this word? Are you hoping that this will somehow help you to fit in here?

[Anonymous No.15148928]

>>15148141
Fucking finally. I was tired of the Schopenhauer meme

[Anonymous No.15148932]

>>15148805
t. 4'11'' womanlet with uneven tits and a flat ass

[Anonymous No.15148946]

>>15148900
To make it even more simple:
Person A makes claim B
Calling person A a "stinky poo poo head" =/= proving claim B wrong

[Anonymous No.15148952]

>>15148923
You're a nigger because you are a legitimate sub 100-IQ retard who has never read a book, just like your nigger parents probably.
Just stop lying you dishonest N I G G E R.
The quote chain will lead you to your very first post where you are suggesting "misogynist" is devoid of meaning, not that it's not an argument. Those are different stances. You are directly replying to someone who was saying something like:
>Why were all philosophers racist, sexist, anti-semitic etc.?
Responding with "lol do people really think misogny even means anything?", again, either denying there are people who hate women or that it's really outlandish that misogyny is a term people like to use.

You are engaging in some serious goalpost moving right now.

[Anonymous No.15148963]

>>15148923
Au contraire, mon frere. Calling someone a woman hater diagnoses the source of his hysteria, for in denouncing woman, he adopts the very same irrationality and genital-thinking that he claims to identify so discerningly--a classic case of self-loathing projected onto the other.

[Anonymous No.15148969]

>>15148932
even such a woman holds more power than you in the new hegemony

[Anonymous No.15149057]

>>15148952
>Those are different stances.
Not really, because it is merely a tautology. If a philosopher has a negative opinion on women, calling him a misogynist i.e. someone who has a negative opinion of women doesn't prove that the opinion in question is incorrect.
Thus calling someone a "misogynist" is both meaningless and not an argument.

>>15148963
>self-loathing projected
Using insults to "prove someone wrong" is a very feminine way of doing. Saying that someone is projecting isn't a valid argument, you could instead use available data on the subject to prove him wrong but the data the we have doesn't seem to contradict his claims.

[Anonymous No.15149058]

>>15148969
>than you in the new hegemony
lmao being ass raped by niggers and sandniggers is your future

[Anonymous No.15149060]

>>15148969
Women and their fantasies, how cute

[Anonymous No.15149138]

>>15149057
Data does not fully comprehend reality. Data reflects the bias of the surveyor and the bias of the surveilled. For example, Wald and survivorship bias. Statistics 101.

[Anonymous No.15149158]

>>15148182
Keep in mind that all of this happened before he left academia and actually wrote anything worth remembering. And based on his later writings, his views on women (and almost every other topic) most likely changed

[Anonymous No.15149165]

>>15149138
>Data does not fully comprehend reality
Not saying that it does, but what else are you going to rely on? Personal preferences? Public opinion? Faith?

[Harmodius !SPQRgUJdp. No.15149249]

does anyone else ever get violent thoughts when they see a woman
like whenever i see some fucking thot sticking her ass out wearing almost nothing obviously vying for attention and wanting to be desired, i find it hard to stop myself from daydreaming about bashing her smug fucking whore face in with a fucking golf club, watching her expression go from that fake "trying to be cute" face they all make to fear and then horror as she starts screaming and pleading with me before i hit her again and knock the wind out of her disgusting whore body, her screaming turns to frantic gurgling as i keep bashing her stupid fucking face in over and over until even that subsides, she's unrecognizable her head is a bloody bubbling pulp, all shades of red speckled with bright white and soggy grey littering her crushed cranium alongside tufts of her stupid fucking dyed hair jesus fucking christ i hate these people so god damned much i don't even want pussy from them i don't want their attention i don't want to be liked by these vile people they're disgusting, if one of them touched me i'd cut my fucking hand off i just want them to fucking DIE

[Anonymous No.15149348]

>>15148172
No, that's more indicative of rightwingers.

[Anonymous No.15149403]

>>15148141
Yeah schopenhauerr is an extremely pathetic figure. I can't understand his appeal. Nietzsche's character is also a little pathetic.
>>15148172
If someone is writing on life and beauty, their character plays a central role in it.

[Anonymous No.15149434]

>>15149403
>Why, yes, I plowed through actresses during the flower of my youth and still wrote The World as Will and Representation at 30

[Anonymous No.15149455]

>>15149403
>I can't understand his appeal
He's a philosopher, have you read any of his actual philosophy or just his shitposts about random stuff?

[Anonymous No.15149473]

>>15148168
Because a genius recognizes truth

[Anonymous No.15149480]

>>15149348
No, u.

[Anonymous No.15149492]

>>15148306
> african-american africans

[Anonymous No.15149505]

>>15148337
No, and you're a fag

[Anonymous No.15149521]

>>15148141
It doesn’t matter if you’re an incel or a man who had a lot of sex. In both cases, men think women should be submissive. Muhammad had nine wives and still thought women must follow men. Also he said this

‘Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler’ [al Bukhari].

This is the nature of men and the real red pill to take for all women.

[Anonymous No.15149529]

>>15149521
I didn't know Islam was this based....

[Anonymous No.15149557]

>>15148141
discord . gg/tmecPqx

[Anonymous No.15149574]

>>15149249
I think about not looking like a dope while they grind up on me.

[Anonymous No.15149582]

>>15149158
>And based on his later writings, his views on women (and almost every other topic) most likely changed
Not in the way you imply.

[Anonymous No.15149681]

>>15148197
Sadly jews brainwashed wymyn to act like men.

[Anonymous No.15149692]

>>15148168
What's the common denominator here? Makes ya think, doesn't it... FUCK ROASTIES

[Anonymous No.15149721]

>>15148168
high pattern recognition

[Anonymous No.15149725]

>>15148584
Glad somebody else caught that. Fucking sheep.

[Anonymous No.15149896]

>>15148605
based

[Anonymous No.15149915]

>>15148714
not him but being called a poopoohead has no value or meaning. why would that word scare me? its like being called avjyfshhssfjjugd. it has no weight