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[Anonymous No.15134469]

Yo brothers, please help me in my search for fiction that reads like a schizo rambling.

[Anonymous No.15134489]

Terry Davis is pretty much Infinite Jest personified

[Anonymous No.15134514]

Any stream of consciousness stuff will pretty much do the trick

[Anonymous No.15134538]

https://www.theparisreview.org/fiction/4263/alice-donald-barthelme

[Anonymous No.15134700]

>>15134489
explain

[Anonymous No.15134715]

[Anonymous No.15134719]

Hegel

[Anonymous No.15134755]

Naked lunch

[Anonymous No.15134764]

Pale Fire

[Anonymous No.15134781]

A Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra

[Anonymous No.15134800]

>>15134700
obsessive detail for things and clearly intelligent, but wrapped in an unsettling sense of randomness

[Anonymous No.15134835]

Louis Wolfson
but you're too much of a pussy for that, I'm sure

[Anonymous No.15134852]

House of Leaves

[Anonymous No.15135216]

Fanged Noumena.

[Anonymous No.15135417]

>>15134469
Anything by Philip K. Dick

[Anonymous No.15135476]

>>15134469
I found the above Latin axiom in a book published in 1970 which was a translation of a German title, Ich und Du . It is understandable that not many visitors to this web site are fluent in German so I will quickly add the fact that this book was titled: I and Thou and was written by Martin Buber and conveniently translated by Walter Kaufmann. Page 9 of this little book caught my eye while sorting through some of my treasures and I could not help but consider this as a portion to dole out in this web page.
"Mundus vult decipi -- the world wants to be deceived. The truth is too complex and frightening; the taste for the truth is an acquired taste that few acquire.
"Not all deceptions are palatable. Untruths are too easy to come by, too quickly exploded, too cheap and ephemeral to give lasting comfort. Mundus vult decipi; but there is a hierarchy of deceptions.
"Near the bottom of the ladder is journalism: a steady stream of irresponsible distortions that most people find refreshing although on the morning after, or at least within a week, it will be stale and flat.
"On a higher level we find fictions that men eagerly believe, regardless of the evidence, because they gratify some wish.
"Near the top of the ladder we encounter curious mixtures of untruth and truth that exert a lasting fascination on the intellectual community."

[Anonymous No.15135484]

>>15135476
hope you are still with me and have continued reading to this line. Did you catch anything in the way of a HINT as to where I am going with this thought -- and the Latin axiom? How about our penchant perambulations to peck out WARNINGS and VIRUS THREATS to our friends about the Government FINALLY taking over the e-mail system and even AUTHENTICATE it with the statement that there is a Bill 601-1/4 that has been through this house and that house and unless we send this letter to 37 friends of our ours we will have our freedoms taken away just like the guns were collected in Poland in 1939. Give me a break. I happen to believe, though, that the same philosophy that was found in the speech Ronald Reagan made when campaigning for Barry Goldwater in the 1960's IS TRUE. In case you might need a mental jog, that quote is: "If a government is big enough to give you everything you want, it is strong enough to take everything you have." THAT IS TRUE and you better put it in a safe place for keeping. But the fact that SOMEONE WROTE ME that e-mail is now going to cost 5 cents is a good case that proves Mundus vult decipi.
May I further dare say that it is often embarrassing to me to receive such evangelistic pleas for me to watch out for this virus or that ominous bill that our legislators are trying to foist on us when in reality it is a blatant LIE! Such bold face misinformation-type statements are the reason for the axiom, "If it sounds too good to be true, it is NOT true." Now, I can sink my teeth into that. How can honest and ethical Christians pass on such notices when in reality they DO NOT KNOW that the statement is true -- it is no different than the inane philosophy, "If it's printed in the paper it must be true."

And taking this concept just a step or two deeper into getting into your face (please forgive me) is the idea that WHATEVER is on a CD (compact discs, not a Certificate of Deposit) is the gospel. Genealogists and folk who are attempting to prove their ancestors were on the Mayflower pay good money for CD's just because they are sold by the professionals. I just want to ask two questions: Is it a positively substantiated fact that the documentations are without error? Were human beings involved in the records of said data? If the answer to the 2nd question is YES, then I will trust in such a CD as much as I trust in the Tooth Fairy. Since the computer has come into being, another pretty good axiom has been pronounced, "Garbage In -- Garbage Out". If humans are involved, then we can assume that errors are (still) possible and just maybe all the "documented" data is not exactly acceptable as "the truth, the whole truth, so help me God."

[Anonymous No.15135494]

>>15135484
Yes, Martin Buber, "we like to be deceived". But not this fellow. I will rely on information I read based on a few more facts. If I KNOW the individual whose work I am reading or if I know the real (true) facts about this person or event (date, time, circumstance, etc.)--of course I probably wouldn't be looking into such resources if I knew this, would I? I believe the Bible to be the Word of God. My belief in this is a good bit more defendable than my belief that the "facts" in the LDS or the Family Tree people's CDs. The Bible has been around a little more than 20 years. I am just as certain that if a written date could be in error or someone's middle initial was not exactly clear then why should I believe it any more than I would believe I could sell the Brooklyn bridge for $37,000?

PLEASE be careful in what you forward, copy or warrant in the way of virus threats, unwarranted statements -- let's find a place for ethics in this new electronic means of communication.

[Anonymous No.15135520]

>>15134469
go back to /g/ pls

[Anonymous No.15135530]

>>15134764
this

[Anonymous No.15135584]

>>15134469
LETTERS by John Barth is by far the most schizo thing he's written, ESPECIALLY the letters by Jerome Bray

[Anonymous No.15135603]

>>15134469
Any mass shooter manifesto

[Anonymous No.15135649]

>>15134469
Tómas Jónsson, Bestseller by Guðbergur Bergsson was translated into English a few years ago. The novel is presented as the ramblings of an senile man, very good schizo energy.

[Anonymous No.15135938]

>>15134489
this, DFW is basically if Terry Davis was good with words instead of computers and a bit less crazy

[Anonymous No.15136033]

>>15134715
Legend of the 10 Elemental Masters is the polar opposite of "schizo rambling". It's a story where everyone acts according to very simple and well-explained goals and personality traits, and everything proceeds according to firmly established, well-defined mechanical conventions. It's a story designed to be as understandable and internally consistent as humanly possible. There's an appendix to explain the idea of pop-ups for RPG-style damage indicators, and an appendix to that appendix that explains the font they appear in.

[Anonymous No.15136172]

>>15136033
So autism then?

[Anonymous No.15136183]

>>15136172
More accurately it's extreme OCD. It all stems from an intense desire to understand everything on a quantifiable level.

[Anonymous No.15136188]

"I live in a CIA prison. A nigger runs my prison. In prison, the nigger tries to torment me. We can take away his knives by confessing, every day. In about 2000, I masturbated fantasizing about my niece, Lani. She looks like star trek seven of nine! In 1985, at my sister's wedding, I stuck my crotch on the hot tub drain because it kind of sucked. In 1985, I tried to get a dog to lick my dick. From 1998-2003, I fantasized about leading a catholic army like dune, of mexicans or brazilians? that was dumb because they're niggers. In 2003, I played tag with a black girl about 7-years-old. she reached for my crotch. In high school, in the library, Carlos and I said juicy or toxic as a way of evaluating girls. In 1988, I cheated on my SAT by talking in the hall during the break -- two problems. On 9/9/1999, I killed a CIA nigger on purpose with my car. :-) In 1982, when I was 12, I babysat Kevin's kids. I changed a diaper because I thought that was being professional. In 1975, when I was about the age five, my brother, Keith, put my penis in a vacuum. In 1977, when I was about age seven, my brother, Danny, got me high on gas fumes and we sucked each others dicks. Dr. Tsakalis has an oddly round ass. Paul Keck at Xytex had a oddly round ass. Distracting? At about age five, Jay Weinrick and I touched disks to each other's assholes."

Do you think Terry could've published his schizo ramblings and years later be recognised as a pioneer of a new avant-garde literary genre?

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[Anonymous No.15136211]

>>15135417
More specifically VALIS.

The empire never ended

[Anonymous No.15136255]

>>15136205
I bet Butterfly moves bibles to the fantasy section in public libraries and then takes a picture and posts it on r/atheism.

[Anonymous No.15136462]

>>15134514
this, an easyish one to read would be the drug sequences in A Brief History of Seven Killings.

[Anonymous No.15136751]

>>15136183
Autism then. Thanks

[Anonymous No.15136768]

>>15136255
(S)he is heavily scared by her upbringing so (s)he spergs out at any mention of it lmfao
t. Freudian

[Anonymous No.15136770]

>there morals are dragon morals

[Anonymous No.15136782]

>>15136033
But is it good though?

[Anonymous No.15136790]

>>15134469
You wanna read my Aunt's book about how there's life after death? I guess it's nonfiction though?

[Anonymous No.15136812]

>>15136782
It's interesting for the way it's told, but the way its told also discards most things that normally make a book worth reading like themes, subtext, plot twists, stakes, character conflicts, etc. It's a good example of outsider art that wouldn't be worth bothering with if it weren't so unusual.

[Anonymous No.15136814]

>>15136255
Lol. You sir just gave the best encapsulation of butterfly imaginable.

[Anonymous No.15136848]

>>15135476
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>>15135494
I don't know if you wrote this, but I enjoyed reading it.
>The Bible has been around a little more than 20 years.
wat

[Anonymous No.15136901]

>>15136255
He posted an Aqua Teen screencap of course he's like that in real life.

[Anonymous No.15137403]

>>15134469
Unexpurgated Diary of Vaslav Nijinsky
Nijinsky is a famous ballet dancer from the 1930s who led a fascinating life, but is well known for having a psychotic break which ended his career. This diary is just his daily musings, but also a great insight on his life and relationships that he held in the past if you know his career prior to the psychotic break. Great stuff, have read it a ton.

[Anonymous No.15137819]

>>15134489
not at all and you would only think so if you were a midwit aware of like 12 books

[Anonymous No.15137900]

WHAT? No one posted it yet? Ok, here it goes...my diary desu

[Anonymous No.15137901]

>>15136183
Ulillillia is an actual autistic savant, though

[Anonymous No.15137906]

>>15137901
He's literally diagnosed with OCD.

[Anonymous No.15137908]

>>15136205
Show genitals
Respond

[Anonymous No.15137909]

>>15137906
Suppose you're right, autism is often comorbid

[Anonymous No.15137923]

>>15137909
Whether or not he's autistic or not it has nothing to do with the way the book is written. Autism is just associated with an inability to intuitively understand social cues or deviate from routines; it has nothing to do with an intense fixation with quantification and understanding.

[Anonymous No.15138285]

>>15137923
A lot of mild autists aren't able to understand things that Ulillillia isn't, though, like characterization, subtle interactions, and emotional motivation. Failing to grasp that is specifically an autistic trait, not an OCD one.
OCD doesn't make people obsessively organize things and quantify abstract concepts, it makes people obsess over rituals to insane lengths. They are obsessed and compulsively indulge in their obsession to avoid distress. An autist would, for example, get upset by subjective color descriptions and replace then with precise hexadecimal codes like Ulillillia. A guy with OCD would, for example, need to blink exactly some multiple of six times before turning a page or he'll feel like his family is going to die.

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>>15134715
wow seeing that picture just sent me back like 10 years

[Anonymous No.15138650]

>>15138285
You're talking about obsessive-compulsive behavior disorder, which involves irrational repetition of personal rituals associated with intrusive thoughts. Ulililia has obsessive-compulsive personality disorder, which involves an intense psychological concern with order and control over one's environment, and completely accounts for all the idiosyncrasies of his writing. People often confuse the two and they can overlap, but they're otherwise completely different disorders with separate diagnoses.

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[Anonymous No.15138666]

>>15134469
The Atrocity Exhibition