/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15107863]

what books explain the mind of the trump supporter?

[Anonymous No.15107929]

>>15107863
That picture holds true for most people regardless of their politics. Beliefs today are cheap products for the masses. Passed is the time when you had to pay the price of constructing your own.

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>>15107863
Sapolsky’s

[Anonymous No.15107971]

>>15107863
Progress and its Critics - Lasch
The Radical Center: Middle Americans and the Politics of Alienation - Donald Warren
Leviathan and its Enemies - Sam Francis

[Anonymous No.15107994]

>>15107942
based

[Anonymous No.15108007]

toliet water is just tap water though...

[Anonymous No.15108036]

>>15107929
Well said. Whoever made that image was just reinforcing their own action of lapping up of shit water.

[Anonymous No.15108053]

>>15107929
A believer is more a commodity than a belief, though it goes both ways. Modern political campaigns are the market’s response to the demand for the political enthusiasm necessary to obtain public office.

[Anonymous No.15108081]

>>15107863
>my media good your media bad
It's all so tiresome
What do you think would have to happen for people to truly be uncomfortable in the spectacle?

[Anonymous No.15108091]

>>15107863
The New Right by Michael Malice

[Anonymous No.15108112]

>>15107929
>Passed is the time when you had to pay the price of constructing your own.

when was that time, exactly?

[Anonymous No.15108185]

>>15108112
Before the rise of the masses.

[Anonymous No.15108196]

>>15108185
ah yes, that well defined time

[Anonymous No.15108205]

>>15107863
Imagine being such a loser no biological woman would ever willingly sleep with you so you have to settle for a fatass eunuch.

[Anonymous No.15108209]

>>15107863

[Anonymous No.15108211]

Ugly piece of shit. You'll never be as good as me. Look at this attention I get from beautiful women. You'll never experience this.

[Anonymous No.15108265]

>>15107971
>>15108081
in the abscence of mass working class socialisation mechanisms, much of left liberal identity in America came to center around blind trust in experts, journalists media, the democratic party, psychiatry ''science'', academia, celebrities and other credentialed authorities. Of course these authorities are corrupt and lie all the time, peddle dumbed down condescending agitprop of the worst sort, and would sooner loose to 'the right' than allow a significant change in the status quo. Their prime interest is in shepherding and gatekeeping and making sure the little people don't under any circumstances get the wrong ideas(weren't leftist establishment journalists caught stockpilling facemasks and medication while denying to the public there was a pandemic?)

The 'far left' sects are like the DNC in miniature, they care more about clinging to their little isles of power and moral authority over making any significant advances. Look at your local leftists, how you wish they'd actually hold themselves up to a higher moral standard, but no, even their moralizing is a means to avoid responsibility, these people have susbstituted virtue for superficial virtue signalling, they are insecure, petulant, hedonistic, petty, conformist, proud in their ignorance, get their politics from memes lack any solidarity or fellow feeling, just waiting for the opportunity to sexually assault and/or ''cancel'' each other. Leftist academics actively hate their areas of study, they resort to moralizing because they can't compete in the terrain of learning, as soon as they get tenure they will become establishment loyalists. If there are still well intentioned leftists, they tend to be naive and easily manipulated consooming propaganda 'diverse and progressive' media, hammers and sickles and rainbow flags as just another commodity.

[Anonymous No.15108275]

>>15107863
You're not looking for a book on the "disaffected white working class," which largely voted for trump because hillary was directly offensive to them as a transparently elitist, uncaring, cold bitch of a woman who didn't bother to campaign to them. They tipped trump over the line for that narrow win, but they are not his base.
Trump's base is economically comfortable yet somehow insecure baby boomers. I don't like bashing boomers as a generation because that's a huge group of people with a lot of varying views and effects.
But there exists a sizable portion of them who have a decent chunk of cash from the boom years they lived through and a massive amount of insecurity about their position in society. They tend to be undereducated or minimally educated. No idea what to read to understand them.

[Anonymous No.15108385]

>>15108081
there is one side that is for racism, homophobia, transphobia, fake news and religious superstition there is another side that is for basic human decency, journalism and science. If you don't see the difference maybe you are the problem. . woah you are just as oppressed as women, queers and people of color because you have to get up to work every monday(nevermind that you get paid more for doing the same job) and because you are smug about not watching TV(Funny how you started being uncomfortable with 'the spectacle' as soon as the media dared to start representing people who aren't you)

[Anonymous No.15108400]

I voted for Trump due to the meme power and because the thought of the pussy left holding more power terrified me. I have little to no entertainment outlets left with all of this political garbage. Comics: ruined. Television: close to ruined. Sports: gayer by the day. Movies: two to three good releases per year. Music: few tolerable artists. Can everyone just leave art alone? I don't mind politics, but everyone (and I do mean everyone) should be able to participate without fear of their career being threatened for identity politics. Jamming blacks into movies when they aren't suppose to be there is fucking stupid. I will watch any type of person if they belong in the artist's vision. Forcing "progress" is tyranny.

[Anonymous No.15108419]

>>15108385
5/10 bait

[Anonymous No.15108426]

>>15107971
>The Radical Center: Middle Americans and the Politics of Alienation - Donald Warren
>Leviathan and its Enemies - Sam Francis
anyone got a copy of these? only lasch is on libgen

[Anonymous No.15108438]

>>15108400
you are the embodiment of white fragility.

This reads as a perfect satire of the deluded, internet wormhole poisoned mind of an easily led idiot.

Please don't be real

[Anonymous No.15108440]

>>15107863
Rebellion of the Masses. By José Ortega y Gasset.

[Anonymous No.15108473]

>>15108185
>>15108196
its me when i ohp ur squat u little twink

[Anonymous No.15108479]

>>15108275
The people who tipped him over the edge are the important ones because unless they are awful then 80% of people are pretty partisan in their views. Everyone knows it’s swing voters that matter.

[Anonymous No.15108494]

>>15108438

[Anonymous No.15108506]

>>15108438
>white fragility

Hardly. Tell me sincerely that art hasn't been pushed towards the "left". Hardly. Try arguing and not throwing a conniption fit.

[Anonymous No.15108509]

>>15108438
le fragile nigger faec

[Anonymous No.15108546]

>>15108400
you seem like you mean well, but When reality hits you and you’re ruled by third worlders much more perverse than your false narratives it’ll be sad to see.

[Anonymous No.15108562]

>>15108400
This is how I felt, but now it’s controversial. At some point good people like you and I will be sick of being told were bad

[Anonymous No.15108576]

>>15108562
Meant for >>15108385

[Anonymous No.15108588]

>>15108576
>>15108546
That was meant for >>15108385
my phone is glitching

[Anonymous No.15108589]

>>15108400
arts is, was and always will be politics and the fact you think otherwise just proves you are a fragile shithead

[Anonymous No.15108628]

>>15107863

[Anonymous No.15108643]

>>15108400
>left are pussies

>triggered by the most trivial changes to society which have nothing to do with the actual systemic problems that hurt everyone

talk about irony and lack of awareness

[Anonymous No.15108656]

>>15108589
You don't know anything about art and never could because all you are about is power and ugliness

[Anonymous No.15108666]

>>15108562
you're not good lol, youre a fucking coward, so cowardly that you are literally incapable of questioning the dogma you've been taught

[Anonymous No.15108681]

>>15108589
Art is not content, but style.
http://coldbacon.com/writing/sontag-onstyle.html

[Anonymous No.15108704]

>>15108589
I never claimed it wasn't. I'm tired of it being ruined in the name of it. I use to enjoy things, you know? Now I do not. It was bad enough when the Christian right was doing it. There were a brief few years where it seemed untouched until around 2014 when the left went full force. I'm sure you'll find a way to not really address my points and, instead, insult me.
>>15108643
>triggered
Not really. More depressed at everyone trying to find "representation" for causes that never amount to anything except mandates about inclusion. You appear really angry at my comment for some reason. I think that is evident of my reasoning for my prior comment.

[Anonymous No.15108714]

>>15108643
Yea dude cause racial humiliation is trivial

[Anonymous No.15108718]

>>15108400
The Democrats aren't leftists, though. There was no threat of the left holding any power.

[Anonymous No.15108721]

" The extreme spiritualization of the despotic State, and the extreme internalization of the capitalist field, define bad conscience. The latter is not cynicism's contrary; it is, in private persons, the correlate of the cynicism of social persons. All the cynical tactics of bad conscience, just as Nietzsche and then Lawrence and Miller analyzed them to arrive at a definition of civilized European man: the hypnosis and the reign of images, the torpor they spread; the hatred of life and of all that is free, of all that passes and flows; the universal effusion of the death instinct; depression and guilt used as a means of contagion, the kiss of the Vampire: aren't you ashamed to be happy? Follow my example, I won't let go before you say, "It's my fault," O ignoble contagion of the depressives, neurosis as the only illness consisting in making others ill; the permissive structure: let me deceive, rob, slaughter, kill! but in the name of the social order, and so daddy-mommy will be proud of me; the double direction given to ressentiment, the turning back against oneself, and the projection against the Other: the father is dead, it's my fault, who killed him? it's your fault, it's the Jews, the Arabs, the Chinese, all the resources of racism and segregation; the abject desire to be loved, the whimpering at not being loved enough, at not being "understood," concurrent with the reduction of sexuality to the "dirty little secret," this whole priest's psychology—there is not a single one of these tactics that does not find in Oedipus its land of milk and honey, its good provider. "

Not even a Deleuze fanboi, i'm a brainlet in philosophy and didn"t understand much of it, though, when I read this passage I thought " oh shit that's /pol/ ".

[Anonymous No.15108752]

>>15108400
in the 60s the powers that be ensured the restlessness and revolutionary impulses of the youth were channeled to the expression of individual identity through music and culture and away from demands for political and economic change and criticism of industrial society. But at least the culture could be genuinely interesting back then. We have now reached a paradoxical phase were consumer culture has all but substituted for politics, there is no room for subtlety,the culture industry is looked up to as an arbiter of social norms and thus saved from left wing criticism. DIY culture is just bottom up propaganda, marked by

[Anonymous No.15108767]

>>15108718
You know what I am referring to. That is just what people have been using to categorize them. "Libtards", "tumblerinas", "snowflakes". It isn't like these people care about social change. They want some internet based community that accepts them like the world does not. These people seem so bored despite this. A good majority just have emotional trauma , but that is probably broad brushing at this point. I can admit they all don't. "Alt-right" can be just as annoying. Everyone's minds are going a mile a minute. I wish the world could calm down for a second. We face no real battle, yet the public imagines apocalypse and war.

[Anonymous No.15108773]

>>15108718
liberals and communists are both leftists

[Anonymous No.15108788]

>>15108265
That all applies to radlibs, not leftists. Leftists don't really exist as an organized force in America.

[Anonymous No.15108816]

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[Anonymous No.15108835]

>>15108643
So triggered that he created a strawman to argue against?

[Anonymous No.15108841]

>>15108721
As a radical rightist and reader of Deleuze I feel this describes leftists perfectly.on the right ideally there is an unabashed pagan celebration of Power as a creative force, what you see on the left is oedipalism and slave morality, even the politically correct victim groups have lost all touch with organic culture and can only see themselves in relation to an emptied spectre of 'the west' their estranged father from which they slavishly seek recognition and their psychiatrist. i call the aryan peoples of the world to unite once again under the barred cross and the bloodstained banner of a new Hitlerism in a joyful transvaluation of values and a joyful renewal of the vedic sacrificial order, if liberalism is all about the endless postponement of sacrifice, the denial of the natural order, then why not unleash the ultimate obscenity and the ultimate atrocity? As true satanists and libertines we celebrate sodomy, transgression and crime, which in this Kali Yuga are transfigured into Familie Travail Patrie, the opposites coincide! rebellion is obedience! let the victim's throat be slit, let the sick the maimed the weak be driven as DH Lawrence would have it to a gas chamber on the crystal palace, let them mutter a weary thanks as the cinematograph plays and a brass band performs a heartfelt rendition of beethoven's 9th!

[Anonymous No.15108855]

>>15108400
Do you realize, yet, how retarded it is to vote based on 'cultural issues'? Has the culture in Hollywood become more to your liking since Trump got elected? Has there been less identity politics, less forced diversity, etc? Of course not. Because the government doesn't control the culture. If you vote on any other basis than economic, you're a moron. Vote for Trump if you think the top 0.01% deserves more wealth and the middle class deserves less. It's that simple.

[Anonymous No.15108868]

>>15108721
>>15108841
No one is going to read Based Deleuze, Justin.

[Anonymous No.15108876]

>>15108855
>voting for economic growth

What a hopeless endeavor. Neither side of the aisle wants to help me out. They'll just put it in a fund to give to themselves.

[Anonymous No.15108879]

>>15108265
>left liberal
Choose one.

>goddamn leftist college liberals

[Anonymous No.15108912]

>>15108879
just stop beating around the bush and call yourself a communist or socialist

[Anonymous No.15108913]

>>15107863
The Confusion of Tongues: A Review of Modern "isms" by Charles W. Ferguson.

>"Cults share four key traits: they espouse an all-encompassing belief system; exhibit excessive devotion to the leader; avoid criticism of the group and its leader; and feel disdain for non-members"

[Anonymous No.15108919]

>>15107863
Badiou's was probably the least terrible of the lot.

[Anonymous No.15108925]

>>15108876
The post never mentioned "economic growth", spermburper.

[Anonymous No.15108980]

>>15108925
Oh yes, it instead wants to take wealth from the wealthy. That will never happen. Only a delusional youth would believe our government would ever do such a thing when they are all buddies. Oh, I assume the anon would also suggest I receive none of it too because I am white and male.

[Anonymous No.15109045]

Fantastic cope when Trump supporters have a higher average income, are less criminal, and more likely to be married than libcels.

If you’re so smart, why is your life so fucking shitty?

[Anonymous No.15109049]

>>15107863
>>15108081
>>15108265
>>15108275

honest question:
why is it never brought up that rightoids arent stupider than other people but are pure idpol, maybe even more than the most progressive liberal??

I never see it brought up anywhere??

[Anonymous No.15109060]

>>15109049
right wing whites are the same amount of idpol as every other race. It is left wing whites that are a complete anomaly and actually have a bias against their own race

[Anonymous No.15109063]

>>15108666
??

[Anonymous No.15109071]

>>15107863
>what books explain the mind of the trump supporter?
The Case for Trump

[Anonymous No.15109078]

>>15109071
>for everyone who supports the President
>newt gingrich
kek

[Anonymous No.15109084]

>>15108980
0/10

[Anonymous No.15109102]

>>15107863
Hillbilly Elegy

Almost anything by Christopher Lasch.

Donald Warren

[Anonymous No.15109111]

hofstadter, adorno, lasch, coin harvey, robert welch

[Anonymous No.15109164]

>>15109049
all politics are identity politics. 'anti idpol' leftists must be the most delusional faction out there and that is why they are rightfully hated by everyone. their ideology amounts to i'm not like the other trannies uwu.

[Anonymous No.15109165]

Republicans and Democrats both seem to be very Impressionistic thinkers, without much of an orientation toward Lexical thought.

Democrats may exemplify more lateral Impressionistic thought, while Republicans are possessed of more linear Impressionistic thinking. The real question is how two parties of the Electronic Age managed to camouflage themselves for a voting block that belongs to a more lexical orientation.

[Anonymous No.15109169]

Imagine not voting for Trump again in the 2020 election.

[Anonymous No.15109186]

>>15109084
Ah yes, a response fitting for the internet age. Did you wear out based, cringe, or "simp"?

[Anonymous No.15109192]

>>15109165
The strange thing is that politics in places like China doesn't appear to be neutered of Lexical thinkers... is it simply a result of the media saturation in the United States?

[Anonymous No.15109209]

>>15109060
ok so taking healthcare away from poor white people so you can own the libs is pro white??

>>15109165
Digibro is retarted.
Lateral and lexical means you´re superior in every way.

[Anonymous No.15109218]

>>15109164
Identity doesn’t have to be biological race though? Many of the Greek tribes were formed by elites paying to be considered Athenian and American identity is ‘white’ because they don’t have an identity. The commonality between a rural Romanian and a rich white guy in USA like Richard spencer is hardly compelling. Either what you said is completely untrue or you’re saying something so obvious it need not be said. I’m a race realist btw as I recognize people act in groups and different races have different interests and genetics, so don’t play those games with me, however I’d prefer a conservative black or Jew that does what’s best for the nation as opposed to a vulgar ‘American’ nationalist college student morbidly obese and alcholilc or a self-hating gullible normie goyim. So it doesn’t need to be a hard biological boundary which is honestly what deters most people from such movements. Nobody wants to be that vain.

[Anonymous No.15109249]

>>15109209
>Lateral and lexical means you´re superior in every way.
Maybe, but Linear-Lexical people are probably the best essayists.

[Anonymous No.15109274]

>>15109209
>healthcare

The Affordable Care Act sucks worse than Medicare and Medicaid. It will never be free. It's impossible to take power away from insurance and pharmaceutical companies without unemployment of masses of people. The overpriced healthcare system is keeping most of America employed. It will never go away.

[Anonymous No.15109298]

>>15107863
>Authoritarianism is something authoritarian followers and authoritarian
leaders cook up between themselves. It happens when the followers submit too
much to the leaders, trust them too much, and give them too much leeway to do
whatever they want--which often is something undemocratic, tyrannical and
brutal. In my day, authoritarian fascist and authoritarian communist dictatorships
posed the biggest threats to democracies, and eventually lost to them in wars
both hot and cold. But authoritarianism itself has not disappeared, and I'm going
to present the case in this book that the greatest threat to American democracy
today arises from a militant authoritarianism that has become a cancer upon the
nation.

https://www.theauthoritarians.org/options-for-getting-the-book/

[Anonymous No.15109347]

>>15109164
>all politics are identity politics.
In your dreams, libshit tranny.

[Anonymous No.15109377]

>>15109164
dude no one cares about transfolk more than right wingers.

There are litteral mountains of studies showing rightoids talk about 300% more about them than the most radical idpol prog in their news or forums.

[Anonymous No.15109397]

>>15109102
>Hillbilly Elegy
Read it. Nothing in depth or too revealing. Stopped reading after it became an unsubtle campaign sales pitch.

Instead, read "White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America" by Nancy Isenberg

>Almost anything by Christopher Lasch
"True And Only Heaven" hit's the nail on the head. Also convinced me to read Ralph Waldo Emerson's Essays. "P/pol/tards might not like his favorable review Martin Luther King, Jr. Good read overall.

>Donald Warren
Never read 'im. I'll check out later.

[Anonymous No.15109402]

>>15109165
>I'm going to reduce all of human experience to a two dimensional fucking quantitative graph.
Brainlets always love reducing everything complex into something absurdly oversimplified, it gives them the illusion of understanding.

[Anonymous No.15109408]

>>15109347
tfw no bizarre autistic crossdresser gf with an anachronistic obsession with orthodox marxism who refuses 'identity politics' out of principle and can cite marx complete works from memory

[Anonymous No.15109421]

Trumps done more in 4 years than democrats have in 20

[Anonymous No.15109430]

>>15109377
hey maybe I am just against the leftist normalisation of pedophilia, please, anyone with half a brain can tell what they are really after. I mean, just connect the dots for goddsakes, i mean do you think we are fucking stupid?

[Anonymous No.15109431]

>>15109045
So much for "drain the swamp" when its the swamp people who invite you in.

[Anonymous No.15109434]

>>15109421
He's done more to turn the world into Clown World, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.15109440]

>>15109430
Rightwingers are the only ones normalizing pedophilia, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.15109441]

>>15109421
And he's added more debt that democrats have in 1000.

[Anonymous No.15109446]

>>15109434
the world is doomed anyways, with trump at least i can derive some marginal satisfaction from pissing leftists off

[I am a janny and you are all b(...) No.15109457]

fuck jannies

[Anonymous No.15109460]

>>15109218
I know what our problem is: the freaks have gone too far, it is about time for normal people like us to get their shit together and put those freaks in their place.

[Anonymous No.15109463]

>>15109446
Establishment Democrats piss off leftists more than any rightwing assclown like Trump.

[Anonymous No.15109486]

>>15109463
Keep telling yourself that

[Anonymous No.15109487]

Vision of the Anointed by Sowell
Coming Apart and American Exceptionalism by Murray
Culture of Critique
Genealogy of Morals
On Women by Schopenhauer
Patriotism and Sun and Steel by Mishima
Nicomachean Ethics
Federalist Papers
On Liberty by Mill

[Anonymous No.15109501]

The Heroic Heart by Tod Lindberg. He basically draws from Carlyle who referred to the “mass of domestics that yearns to be ruled by a pseudo-hero”. He claims that appreciation moved from the truly heroic to the celebrity in the modern era. He doesn’t reference Trump specifically but he quite obviously fits the bill.

On a simpler note, I think the mass of his voters and supporters are simply social “conservatives” who have watched everything they hold dear lose ground to scientific liberalism for their entire lives with those losses accelerating to the point of near psychosis in the post-WW2 era and were desperate for an alternative that matched said pseudo-hero to come along and save them while still believing their current political paradigm offers a solution. You have to realize the vast vast majority of Americans have quite literally never read a book on their own initiative. They’re groomed by what the TV tells them and decades of reinforced propaganda via the school systems, media, and social conditioning. Those who remain avid Trump supporters are simply in one of those two camps - those who are on the right and see no other option in light of the lost ground or those who aren’t smart enough to see that he doesn’t actually have the answers they might not want but need. The masses are asses as they say.