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Anonymous Wed Apr 15 05:31:52 2020 No.15102975 [Reply] [Original]

>genius
>self-made millionaire
>award-winning academic
>serial inventor
>one of the greatest living computer scientists
>arguably one of the most influential bloggers of all time
>friends with Peter Thiel
>literally reads encyclopedias for fun
>father of two children, both of whom are also gifted
>predicted current events more than a decade ago with 80%+ accuracy

Why haven't you read Moldbug yet, /lit/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 05:33:15 2020 No.15102980 ALGO SHILL THREAD

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 05:33:38 2020 No.15102982 >>15102980 wat

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 05:35:43 2020 No.15102991 >>15102975 Where do I start?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 05:36:26 2020 No.15102994 >>15102975 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin >is an American here you go

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 05:36:33 2020 No.15102995 His prose is insufferable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 05:37:10 2020 No.15102999 >>15102991 https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 05:39:04 2020 No.15103004 Hi moldbug. You're a faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 05:41:34 2020 No.15103014 >>15102980 This. It's one autist who spams all these threads. Or it's a psyop.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 05:43:33 2020 No.15103023 >>15102999 Thanks looks like something fun to read

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>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 05:45:27 2020 No.15103026 >>15103023 lmao

>>	Justin Murphy Wed Apr 15 05:48:29 2020 No.15103036 People are reading Based Deleuze.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 05:53:57 2020 No.15103046

He has the best take on Coronavirus too:
>The terrible truth the virus has revealed is that the US and UK — as opposed to post-Communist Asia and post-Napoleonic Europe — arenot even countries. They are free-trade zones. Our governments are not governments. They are bureaucratic anarchies with ceremonial elected monarchs. Pitting them against this ruthlessly objective virus is sending Don Quixote to Vietnam.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 05:56:20 2020 No.15103057 >>15103046 He has zero good takes. And you don't need to bump from page two. Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 05:57:50 2020 No.15103061 >>15103057 'No'

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:08:36 2020 No.15103087 Hi Curtis. Please write the rest of the clear pill essays already you dumb fuck

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:09:37 2020 No.15103090 >>15103046 Is he saying that liberal states have trouble dealing with a crisis? What a novel perception!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:12:58 2020 No.15103101 File: 20 KB, 474x355, th.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15102975 >>genius lol stopped reading there

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:13:47 2020 No.15103107 >>15103087 Samefag

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:22:07 2020 No.15103130 >>15103107 yes, Curtis is the same fag making all these threads

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:25:12 2020 No.15103139 >>15103130 >6 posters

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:26:13 2020 No.15103142 >>15103107 Retarded time to make the accusation when that post made the unique ID number go up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:28:33 2020 No.15103146 >>15103142 >>15103139 lmao nice job

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:29:27 2020 No.15103151 >>15103146 schizo

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:30:18 2020 No.15103155 >>15102975 If you want me to engage with your thought, learn to write well to make the task less unpleasant. Will have the side effect of improving your thinking as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:31:45 2020 No.15103160 >>15103151 how am I a schizo? someone is clearly spamming the thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:32:00 2020 No.15103161 >Yarvin's father is Jewish and his parents and stepfather were career officers in United States Foreign Service. It doesn't say his mother is Jewish so does that mean he isn't technically Jewish?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:32:41 2020 No.15103165 >>15102995 I noticed it was more heavy and eloquent early on. Now, it's very sparse and staccato like, as if he was writing on a smartphone.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:33:36 2020 No.15103170 File: 157 KB, 600x534, 1561492499523.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15103161

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:34:31 2020 No.15103173 >>15103023 Fucking kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:35:46 2020 No.15103179 >>15103161 he doesn't consider himself Jewish, but he has very pro-Jewish opinions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:39:09 2020 No.15103196 >>15102975 Time to take your meds Moldie

Urbanomic Publishing INC ™ Wed Apr 15 06:39:52 2020 No.15103197
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>>15103023
Hello fellow anons do you have any book recommendations? Preferably related to the Urbanomic oeuvre.

Thanks my fellow anons. This is my first post so please don't be too harsh on a noob.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:40:41 2020 No.15103201 >>15103197 Fuck off kekscum

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:42:49 2020 No.15103208 >>15103170 i for one can't wait to welcome our jewish overlords

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:43:51 2020 No.15103215 File: 16 KB, 412x434, 1577804623555.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15102975 HE SOUNDED SOOOOO GOOOODD!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:45:51 2020 No.15103225 File: 124 KB, 828x605, anti-same-fag.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15103139 Every Single Fucking Time

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:56:29 2020 No.15103245 His recent Medium posts are utter /lit/ kino. Highly recommend them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:59:14 2020 No.15103254 >>15102975 >constantly see people on /lit/ shitting on him >no one can actually explain why he is bad apart from "prose sucks" Does this mean he's right about everything?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 06:59:27 2020 No.15103256 >>15103245 ok moldbug

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 07:01:44 2020 No.15103264 File: 143 KB, 1024x819, 45433034084_2febe0102c_b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] But Carlyle doesn't ask the question: What was the Sovereign's tax policy?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 07:07:49 2020 No.15103283 >>15103254 Literally yes.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 07:16:30 2020 No.15103319
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>>15103264
>What's taxises, precious? What's taxises?
>Tax-es! Sort 'em, file 'em, pay 'em...lovely big taxes with nice deductibles.
>Spoiling nice income. Give it to us raw and g-g-g-gross, you keep nasty taxises.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 07:21:27 2020 No.15103341 t. ranny

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 07:31:08 2020 No.15103382 >>15102975 wtf

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 07:40:41 2020 No.15103425

>>15103245
>Have I made the sale? Just one little thing: I lied.

>The Latin word for a temporary dictator isn’ttribune. The Latin word for a temporary dictator is…dictator. (The ancients would have called a 20th-century dictator-for-life atyrant.)

>Sorry. Are you going to let awordstop you? Come with us if you want to live.

Fuuuuuck, his style had improved by miles since UR.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 07:42:11 2020 No.15103433 File: 15 KB, 454x520, 1577804685605.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15103425

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 07:42:30 2020 No.15103435 >>15103425 this is the exact same style he had in UR apart from when he tried to ape Carlyle

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 07:46:56 2020 No.15103454 >>15102980 /thread. Plus not to mention OP is a midwit appeal to human respect. Muh success! Remember, sage goes in the option field with all moldfag threads, to deprive him of the satisfaction of what he thinks is an upvote.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 07:47:38 2020 No.15103456

>>15103090
That's the shitty thing about the world, isn't it? The Right has been saying the exact same fucking things for literal centuries. Absolutely nothing Moldbug says is novel in the slightest, people were saying exactly what he's saying in the fucking thirteenth century for the exact same goddamn reasons he is.

And nobody fucking listens.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 07:48:02 2020 No.15103460 >>15102991 t. same fag Even Guenonfag isn't this obvious. Consider killing yourself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 07:49:38 2020 No.15103469 >>15103245 >samefag continues Jannies please crush mold like the disgusting bug he is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 07:49:42 2020 No.15103470 File: 29 KB, 563x574, 1523488386593.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15103454 Based

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 07:50:05 2020 No.15103473 >>15103090 no u retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 07:53:21 2020 No.15103487 OP here. I unironically just want to discuss Moldbug. If you actually engaged with me, I wouldn't have to spam these threads. Also, it's not just me - there's at least one other person making them.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:09:36 2020 No.15103553
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>>15103487
Then you should invest in a rope or a vehicle to drive you off a cliff and kill yourself. That or never come back to this website again.
>dude mold man is a millionaire
>dude bug man is friends with frickin Peter theil
>frickin computer science
>wow trashbin memory from reading encyclopedias good boy!
>look at he is a dad! whoooah gifted kids sure are better than everyone else's
>dude whoah nostradamus, he made some (vague) predictions tha that came true.

If you aren't Moldbugman, it's even more pathetic you made this thread and said all this pseud cred. If you aren't a friend of his and never met him, then it's beyond pathetic. It shows you're probably an ugly looking gremlin that lacks any charisma just like stutterin bug man and think wow this is literally me. Go back to your financial cope reddit and worship your millionaire idols. They're trash to us.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:11:57 2020 No.15103565 >>15103553 This is exactly what I mean. Your whole post has zero content, it's just butthurt turned into bits. Just close the thread, weirdo.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:13:58 2020 No.15103571

>>15103565
>>genius
>>self-made millionaire
>>award-winning academic
>>serial inventor
>>one of the greatest living computer scientists
>>arguably one of the most influential bloggers of all time
>>friends with Peter Thiel
>>literally reads encyclopedias for fun
>>father of two children, both of whom are also gifted
>>predicted current events more than a decade ago with 80%+ accuracy
This is exactly what I mean. Your whole post has zero content

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:15:58 2020 No.15103575 >>15103553 >I can't critique Moldbug's ideas, but I CAN throw hollow insults at OP simply for trying to incentivise discussion in a way I don't like You are intellectual cancer

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:16:51 2020 No.15103579 >>15103571 I was trying to explain why some people might be interested in reading him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:17:25 2020 No.15103583 >>15103487 lmao please make me a jannie. I despise these trannies but I'll still allow them their one thread. same with guenon, he can still have his one thread and then maybe someone will actually discuss the books.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:17:38 2020 No.15103584 >>15103575 >I can't discuss Moldbug's ideas, but I CAN throw useless vanities and appeals to human respect in my OP simply for trying to incentivise midwits to like the guy You are cancer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:18:40 2020 No.15103590 >>15103579 Those are all excellent reasons NOT to read him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:19:20 2020 No.15103595 >>15103575 accfag, post just one thread where you had an actual discussion with people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:20:10 2020 No.15103598 >>15103590 That's why I said some people.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:20:11 2020 No.15103599

>>15103584
I'm not OP, brainlet. It's so obvious you're afraid of actual discussion. It shouldn't matter what the OP has to say about him, if you don't like Moldbug, pose an argument. If you don't want to talk about moldbug, close the thread. How are you this fucking simple?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:21:23 2020 No.15103604 >>15103595 >accfag lmao, why are you here instead of making endless accusations of samefagging in your containment thread?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:23:16 2020 No.15103609 >>15103599 If you want a safe space to discuss with midwits, please go to this site called reddit.com. I have taken the libery of exposing OP, Moldman and his acolytes as pseuds and you cannot handle it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:24:16 2020 No.15103613 >>15103170 where is it from?

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:25:32 2020 No.15103619

>>15103599
It's up to you to post an argument, or at the very least a quote. You're just some shill spamming this shit. You must somehow be connected to these groups because no one else would be so invested in spamming all day every fucking day. And then muddying the waters whenever people argue with you or point out the shilling.
Now fuck off shill faggot.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:27:33 2020 No.15103628

>>15103619
>It's up to you to post an argument, or at the very least a quote. You're just some shill spamming this shit.
That was precisely my own point and case in point on full display right here, square one, plain as day, clear as crystal >>15102975

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:28:40 2020 No.15103631 >>15103604 what are you talking about? I've hardly ever argued with you because it's a waste of fucking time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:28:57 2020 No.15103633 >>15103619 m8 there's like 2 threads per week at most, wtf are you talking about with this spamming shit

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:29:48 2020 No.15103638

>>15103609
How did you expose them as pseuds? You haven't said a word about Moldbug's ideas.

>>15103619
>You must somehow be connected to these groups because no one else would be so invested in spamming all day every fucking day.
Like I said, I'm not OP. I just think it is absurd that you have such a strong reaction to him when you can't even comment on his ideas, just your issues with how the OP initiated the discussion. It's such a fucking minor concern, if you knew Moldbug was shit, you'd be able to say why with reference to the things he talks about.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:30:18 2020 No.15103641 >>15103628 Wait, sorry friendly fire. Thought you were a moldshill.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:30:39 2020 No.15103643 >>15103628 So you're just shitting up the board and hoping that only the biggest pseuds will remain standing. Good to know.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:31:05 2020 No.15103647 >>15103631 Not every poster who disagrees with you is accfag, you psycho. You are literally suffering from apophenia at this point. Seek help.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:31:28 2020 No.15103650 >>15103638 Ideas are a reflection of the person which was what OP posited and what I dismantled. Please jump off a rooftop.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:31:52 2020 No.15103651 >>15103641 You're a biased dipshit. Fuck out of my thread. You're ruining it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:32:35 2020 No.15103654 >>15103650 >ideas are a reflection of the person No they arent. You haven't even specified which ideas.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:33:52 2020 No.15103660 >>15103650 What a braindead fucking post.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:34:20 2020 No.15103662 >>15103650 Kill yourself retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:34:31 2020 No.15103663 >>15103654 >whoah look at this guy he's a millionaire and friends with Peter theil he-he has good ideas guise

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:35:27 2020 No.15103669 >>15103654 >>15103660 >>15103662 Jew knobgobblers

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:36:22 2020 No.15103676 File: 112 KB, 1200x800, _96969502_78b75efc_37fe_449f_944e_0fa30805a597.0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15103487 hahaha

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:37:19 2020 No.15103680 >>15103633 Kek. There have been at least 5 acc threads in the past day, maybe even this morning. And Moldbug is regularly posted twice a day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:37:39 2020 No.15103681 >>15103669 You're so fucking boring. The fact that we're in the same camp politically is genuinely depressing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:37:44 2020 No.15103682 >>15103598 retarded people >>15103633 that's 2 threads too many baka desu senpai

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:38:45 2020 No.15103686 >>15103647 nice try faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:38:53 2020 No.15103687 File: 48 KB, 585x501, 75hiM6C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15103681 you type like an incel

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:39:04 2020 No.15103689 >>15103680 And? Moldbug is almost entirely unrelated. He's certainly not an accelerationist himself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:39:19 2020 No.15103694 >>15103681 I am very interesting actually. I can beat you up irl, too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:40:18 2020 No.15103698 >>15103689 I'll be the leader :)

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:40:43 2020 No.15103699
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>be me
>born 1806
>rich family
>had everything
>no struggle in life
>knew Latin and Ancient Greek fluently by age 8
>calculus by age 10
>early dissertation
>life of ease led to nothing but borimg utilitarian bugman thought and offered nothing original or valuable despite being in a much better position than everyone else
>mfw someone says ideas aren't a reflection of the person and his environment

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:41:51 2020 No.15103706 File: 148 KB, 322x527, 1579154691816.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15103681 >OMG NICK LAND >OMG MOLDBUG >OMG NICKERS >SO FRIGGING BASED DESU

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:43:21 2020 No.15103712 >>15103689 their ideas are the same and it's one faggot who spams the majority of the threads. you're not kidding anyone but your autistic twitter group.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:44:17 2020 No.15103715 >>15103712 There is a discord that shills Deleuze, Mold Bugman, and Nick Land.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:45:25 2020 No.15103719 >>15103647 Who do you think you're kidding?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:45:29 2020 No.15103720 >>15103712 >>15103715 here we go with the fucking retarded conspiracies. Take your meds, dipshit. I know it's one guy. Samefag.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:45:42 2020 No.15103721 >>15103699 I don't get what this post is even implying 2bh. >>15103712 What twitter group? Maybe they'd be willing to actually discuss shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:46:54 2020 No.15103722 >>15103721 Probably. You should go there and stay.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:47:42 2020 No.15103725 >>15103722 I can be in both places. Tabs are a thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:47:47 2020 No.15103727 File: 18 KB, 326x294, 2qmyau.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15103720 lmao cope

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:48:01 2020 No.15103730 >>15103715 Definitely

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:50:21 2020 No.15103739 Refuted by your own people https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Neoreactionary_movement

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:51:54 2020 No.15103747 File: 577 KB, 3072x2823, 1574370481890.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15103720 way to out yourself again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:55:24 2020 No.15103764 >>15103739 >your own people Huh

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:59:58 2020 No.15103784 >>15103699 he knew so much calculus and he still got BTFOed by the Marginalists in the 1870s

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:02:28 2020 No.15103797 >>15103024 i miss those...

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:15:26 2020 No.15103868 >>15103046 >free trade zone If we lived in a free trade zone we wouldn't have a healthcare cost problem.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:22:18 2020 No.15103922 >>15103868 Spoken like a true like libertarian, but I agree.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:24:18 2020 No.15103932 >>15102975 >jew cant trust them

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:25:44 2020 No.15103940 >>15102975 >Why haven't you read Moldbug yet, /lit/? Ultimately it comes down to how he looks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:25:54 2020 No.15103942 >>15102975 Curtis "I Don't Know the Difference Between Deductive and Empirical Claims" Yarvin

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:27:39 2020 No.15103950

>>15103922
>>15103922
No, seriously. There are drugs that cost tens of thousands of dollars in the US that cost maybe 1/100 of that in India, or 1/10 in Ireland or Canada. And they MAKE THE DRUG there. But you can't import it here. Too dangerous!

Almost all American problems are caused by either our religious beliefs (generalized antiracism) or government gatekeeping (banning drug imports, land use laws, student loan subsidies and lowering of standards, etc.)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:29:26 2020 No.15103964 >>15103868 > dude just charge what the market supports for tests lol > why is everyone coughing buy a ten bitcoin mask

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:33:38 2020 No.15103987

>>15103964
East Asia has many countries with market economies that stockpiled masks. It's also easier to build factories there due to less draconian zoning laws. If you look at major cities in Japan or China for example, they have economies of scale centered around major cities - we can't have that for some reason. And China's top-tier cities aren't cheap, either. It also didn't help that we paid their shipping for them for decades and made them eligible for various forms of gibs through the WTO...

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:36:44 2020 No.15103997 >>15103987 Retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:37:59 2020 No.15104000 >>15102975 >genius no >self-made millionaire maybe >award-winning academic No. What awards? >serial inventor of what?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:39:26 2020 No.15104005 >>15103024 Muslims are terrible neigbhours who refuse to recognise anyone other than themselves even though they're the ones squatting on "their" side of the fence.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:43:19 2020 No.15104018 >>15104000 >no He was getting a PhD at 19 >maybe He has been living off his startups for decades now >What awards? Best student paper - Usenix conference, '93 >Of what? Well, IT shit. Urbit is an obvious example.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:46:19 2020 No.15104034

>>15103046
>Pitting them against this ruthlessly objective virus is sending Don Quixote to Vietnam.
This is such a stupid fucking take. It boggles the mind that he said this.

1. England and America are experiencing higher rates of COVID-19 because they have some of the highest population densities on earth. Once you account for this, they are far lower down on the scale than other nations.

2. China has now been shown, in concert with the WHO, to have been lying about its data. It was terribly affected and it continues to be.

I would lay money on the fact that bug boy is another one of these white monkey cinophile shills. I know his boyfriend currently resides in Shanghai.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:46:52 2020 No.15104040 File: 106 KB, 1024x768, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15104000 Nice, but

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:47:12 2020 No.15104042 File: 446 KB, 499x408, it ain't me.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15102975 >swift boats

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:48:33 2020 No.15104054 >>15104034 jet fuel can't melt patchwork or the clear pill.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:49:29 2020 No.15104059 >>15102975 >taking chinlets seriously

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:55:49 2020 No.15104099 >>15103997 Where's the lie?

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:56:11 2020 No.15104100

>>15104034
That is untrue. Not only is the US not even in the top 100 in terms of population density, countries with much higher density are for the most part handling it much better. I.e Taiwan, Singapore, Korea, Germany, Denmark etc, the first three of which Moldbug discusses in the post.

What the fuck does China even have to do with it? It's just whataboutism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:57:57 2020 No.15104113 >>15104034 Reminder that the blacks thought they were immune to coronavirus for weeks and now make up a vastly disproportionate number of cases and deaths

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:58:22 2020 No.15104117 >>15102975 >Berkeley >self made stay undergrad /lit/ >>15103046 if you think this is wit, you need to get off twitter and read a book.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:59:35 2020 No.15104128 >>15103425 That sounds like something a high schooler would write.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 10:02:19 2020 No.15104148 >>15103565 What he said made perfect sense. You just can't understand why he's mocking you so you assume the mockery has no content.

>>	Justin Murphy Wed Apr 15 10:02:55 2020 No.15104151 File: 224 KB, 640x911, 1418237594932271.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] People are watching Lesbian Neoreaction with Justin Murphy and N1x Land

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 10:04:54 2020 No.15104164 >>15104117 Come on m8, not all Berkeleyfags become millionaires.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 10:05:33 2020 No.15104170 >>15104018 >He was getting a PhD at 19 This is a gimmick, not a real indication of intelligence. >Best student paper - Usenix conference, '93 AHAHAHAHAHA >Urbit eh

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 10:09:30 2020 No.15104187

>>15104100
>Not only is the US not even in the top 100 in terms of population density
NYC (one of the hardest places hit by far) is one of the most densely populated places on earth. Just because the United States has vast tracts of land that are basically unpopulated does not mean that it doesn't also include some of the largest urban centres in the world.
>China is whataboutism
No, it isn't. Bug's original point is all to do with how China is succeeding where the UK and the US are failing. Of course, I am going to state why that isn't the case in a post calling him out for his obvious shilling.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 10:09:45 2020 No.15104190 >>15104170 Wow, yeah, just dismiss it out of hand for no reason. That's fair.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 10:10:30 2020 No.15104197 File: 813 KB, 853x480, vlcsnap-2011-10-06-13h29m47s48.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15103487 refuted

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 10:17:17 2020 No.15104240 >>15104187 NY is only slightly more densely populated than Taipei, yet has literally 1000s % more cases. Also you're moving the goalposts. He mentions China like twice in the whole article. His main examples are Taiwan and SK.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 10:23:22 2020 No.15104279 File: 78 KB, 640x656, 1525392695466.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15103797 same but moldbugmen give us the opportunity to bring them back.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 10:28:43 2020 No.15104309 >>15102975 who?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 10:30:30 2020 No.15104314 >>15102975 >award-winning academic I'm sorry, I don't think I can take something like this seriously. What a fucking joke

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 10:30:35 2020 No.15104316 >>15103142 every time.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 10:31:40 2020 No.15104322

>>15104309
>genius
>self-made millionaire
>award-winning academic
>serial inventor
>one of the greatest living computer scientists
>arguably one of the most influential bloggers of all time
>friends with Peter Thiel
>literally reads encyclopedias for fun
>father of two children, both of whom are also gifted
>predicted current events more than a decade ago with 80%+ accuracy

You're welcome Anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 10:57:14 2020 No.15104474 >>15104018 >>15103699

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 10:58:56 2020 No.15104490 >>15103319 lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:00:09 2020 No.15104497 >>15104322 Not a genius and the rest are midway points.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:01:28 2020 No.15104510 File: 86 KB, 430x441, 1536785125832.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15103721 >I don't get what this post is even implying 2bh.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:05:04 2020 No.15104541 File: 543 KB, 809x867, 1513338937598.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15104497 Why even ask then?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:06:15 2020 No.15104551 >>15103264 so what was the story on him being chosen for a levis ad?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:06:25 2020 No.15104553 Literally

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:18:18 2020 No.15104656

>>15104164
>two rich diplomat parents making max GS15 + stipend + COLA bux privy to insider trading info enabling them to become near millionaires spend their pet bug to expensive schools and show and tell and network him out like a cheap prostitute
>we need to send our widdle boy to college early he so smartyyyyy
>parents bankroll literally everything
>self made

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:22:23 2020 No.15104695 >>15104656 >wealth and intelligence tend to correlate Yeah no shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:27:12 2020 No.15104731 File: 312 KB, 458x485, 1543925172912.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15102975 >jewish

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:29:57 2020 No.15104751 >>15104695 He's literally a midwit software engineer with a reactionary blog. The only thing exceptional about him is that he was chosen to be Thiel's pet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:30:02 2020 No.15104753 >>15104695 Those accomplishments have little to do with intelligence, Curtis and were the consequence of rich neurotic parents projecting their vain delusions on their little lab rat of a son. Imagine being filtered by someone in 400 AD.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:33:11 2020 No.15104772 >>15104751 >>15104753 I guess we just have different standards of evidence.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:34:15 2020 No.15104780 >>15104772 Midwit cop out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:35:04 2020 No.15104789 >>15104772 tranny faggots always do

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:39:04 2020 No.15104810 >>15104789 Did you call yourself a tranny faggot?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:42:08 2020 No.15104839 >>15104810 He did not assert >>15104772, Curtis.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:53:57 2020 No.15104935

>>15104772
You flat out didnt address the point in >>15104656 at all. Hes not self-made at all, he was handed the world on a silver platter. He only got where he did in life because of his parents money and hes only still talked about at all because of peter thiels money.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 12:10:19 2020 No.15105052 Is Moldbug really a millionaire? I thought he was just some broke grad student screaming into the void on the internet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 12:12:12 2020 No.15105067 >>15103014 algos and psyops are the same thing. cybernetics. read my great friend and genius mathematician théodore jean Cassinsqui

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 12:51:45 2020 No.15105345 >>15103046 Mexico literally cut off the border from the US before the US did and they're just acting like nothing's happening.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:01:06 2020 No.15105414 >>15104810 where did all the redditors come from?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:24:56 2020 No.15105562 >>15103456 >The Right The right mostly defends the liberal order these days, most critics are from the left.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:28:03 2020 No.15105586 >>15103721 It's not implying anything, it explicitly states its point you retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:29:06 2020 No.15105594 >>15105562 By definition you cannot defend the Liberalism and be Right Wing, and you cannot be opposed to Liberalism and be Left Wing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:30:16 2020 No.15105606 >>15102975 >chinlet >probably a manlet cope

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:30:23 2020 No.15105607 >>15102975 because he's a literal nobody only relevant on the internet

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:32:57 2020 No.15105623 >>15105606 jealous. just read him, you'll love it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:40:39 2020 No.15105677 >>15105594 Damn anon. Did you just woke up from two centuries of coma? Left moved away from liberalism to socialism long time ago. The right wing tends to defend free market rather than oppose it.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:41:59 2020 No.15105686

>>15104731
That's what made me distance myself from his ideas.
He never calls out the tribe, like ever. Instead, he pest on the anti-Semites.
I just can't possibly take anyone seriously who doesn't have any degree of some awareness in the JQ.
It's impossible to avoid the question now, given the context of our world's struggles.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:46:18 2020 No.15105714 >>15105623 >jealous >implying i'm jealous cope

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:47:08 2020 No.15105716 >>15105686 this is the level of the right. just read him, he offers something more than blaming da jooz.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:48:09 2020 No.15105726 >>15105714 where are your writings anon?

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:49:25 2020 No.15105731

>>15105677
The Republican Party espouses Liberalism, yes. Are you new to this? You do realize that politics is deeper than Republicans vs Democrats, right? They're both Liberal. That's... The entire point.

>>15105686
You're an Indo-European, you're allowed to pick and choose as you please. Mindlessly swallowing whatever you're told and engaging Semitic circular hermeneutics wherein an author's words are absolute truth that cannot be questioned is literally Jewish. Moldbug makes good points, take those, ignore what's garbage.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:54:17 2020 No.15105767 >>15105716 >>15105731 Precisely what I'm doing. I still enjoy some of his takes, it's refreshing, intriguing, sometimes jarring but still unique. But for real political commentary I'd rather read unz's publications and website.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:56:57 2020 No.15105787 >>15105731 >You do realize that politics is deeper than Republicans vs Democrats You do realize that you are talking about one specific state? Are you new to this?

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:58:43 2020 No.15105799

>>15105716
Moldbug himself takes the JQ seriously he had a whole post about it, unfortunately the comment section, which was more interesting than the post itself, is now gone. He obviously thinks that antisemites are mistaken but he at least understands why they exist and thinks the question needed to be addressed.

His basic take is that Jews are just way more likely to become Progressives, who are the real problem.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:02:35 2020 No.15105813

>>15105731
>You do realize that politics is deeper than Republicans vs Democrats, right?
No, he doesn't. That's the problem with Americans, they're so thoroughly Liberal that the idea of anyone not being a Liberal is completely alien to them. When you say "Conservative" he instantly thinks "Republican", because the idea of someone actually believing in something other than "Liberalism, but slowly" is completely alien to him.

Go read about the US Government spending billions trying to startup onions farms in Afghanistan if you want a hilarious example of this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:05:30 2020 No.15105831 >>15105787 are you arguing that moldbug is a republican, in the sense of the party? because thats not the case. at all. like, "you're a fucking retard" at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:07:07 2020 No.15105835 >>15105831 No, where have you got that? My point wasn´t limited to muttistan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:08:49 2020 No.15105851 >>15103046 As if the monarchies of old were devoid of THE COURT. You fool.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:09:06 2020 No.15105854 >>15103254 Imagine the most angsty butthurt libertarian you can and then mix him with an edglord tryhard "darkness, dude!". Thats him, the fact he constantly try to make excuses for semites is just icing on the fraud cake.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:22:53 2020 No.15105952

>>15105799
Yeah...it's not really strong.
For everything JQ related there's the big trio: Michael A. Hoffman in "Judaism discovered" for a full critique and analyze of both Judaism and the Talmud.
E Michael Jones in "The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit" for everything religious, esoteric and political.
And of course the trilogy of Kevin B. MacDonald and especially "Culture of Critique" for the social sciences, 20th century etc.

There's no going back after that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:24:31 2020 No.15105960 >>15105731 >Moldbug makes good points, He doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:27:36 2020 No.15105982 does his wife not mind all the vaping?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:27:53 2020 No.15105983 >>15105960 Elaborate. >>15105813 Elaborate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:29:49 2020 No.15105992 >>15105726 cope

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:32:51 2020 No.15106011 >>15105952 MacDonald is a great read, his talks are also pretty good. In one of them he pointed out that modern progressives are the way they are because they are the genetic offspring of puritans and it blew my mind how much sense it made..

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:34:02 2020 No.15106017

>>15105983
About the onions? For whatever reason USG wanted to get a onions industry going in Afghanistan. But onions doesn't grow there, so they spend cash on botanical and bioengineering to get onions crops perfect for Afghanistan. But the Afghanis don't know how to grow onions, so they spent money teaching them. But the Afghani's don't know how to cook onions, so they spent money teaching them. But the Afghani's don't like onions, so they spent money to buy up all of the grain to starve the Afghanis into buying onions. But the Afghanis lacked the mechanisms to even do that, so USG spent billions making them.

All of this to startup a onions industry either so that US farmers could sell onions to Afghanistan, OR so that China could (it's not entirely clear, both sides appeared to work to this goal). In the end, it didn't work, and the Afghanis just ended up buying the onions with aid and throwing it away and eating their native grain.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:36:46 2020 No.15106038 >>15106011 in case anyone is interested https://youtu.be/3TDUTHoWfhU

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:38:43 2020 No.15106050

>>15106011
Absolutely. I mean yes, the more we combine genetics, HBD and social anthropology, the more everything of that nature makes sense, including the Jews' desire to control, to dominate certain fields, to "heal the world" religiously etc.

Just go to telegram "The Noticer", and you'll see thousands of Jews on twitter saying they're "White" when it comes to criticizing Western culture, and right after "Oh I'm not White, I'm Jewish" these types of memetic behaviors are for me hard coded in the genes.

And to the question: How exactly did they get to that point? All of these answers lie in the Talmud and the rabbinical authorities which have exerted power of the Jewish communities for nearly 1000 years.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:41:43 2020 No.15106071

>>15106017
>>15105983
The soi thing is pretty funny. The whole feminism angle is hilarious too, where USAID or whatever built a bunch of womans school and a tribal leader almost word for word asked "why would we want our girls to go to school?" And then the schools end up as taliban bases because they're well made cement structures

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:42:02 2020 No.15106074

>>15102975
He and Land have the same problem as Ligotti. Their life is shit so they assume everyone is suffering like them.

However, their political analysis is objectively correct. Their premise is wrong so their conclusion is wrong but the diagnosis is spot on. It would be like someone who becomes a world renown doctor and invents a new test that is 100% accurate for identifying cancer but prescribes leeches and drinking lead acetate as a cure.

It would be a perfect analogy if the doctor was appointed head of the oncology department with a million dollar salary because his friend owned the university and the department had already done the legwork for the test but they put his name on the building because he was in charge at the time.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:42:18 2020 No.15106077

>>15106050

the entire jewish mentily boils down to "the romans beat us 2000 years ago and we are really really really mad about it!". Literaly every single facet of their history since then has been a massive cope and retcon about them being btfo by the roman military.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:43:16 2020 No.15106085 >>15106074 Nah, their diagnosis is shit too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:47:23 2020 No.15106118 >>15106077 It goes back even further than that my dude. Exodus is ultimately just a massive cope to justify getting conquered by Babylon and then being made a client state by Persia.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:49:01 2020 No.15106125 >>15105952 Moldbug fundamentally lies about the nature of the ruling class. He also supports Zionism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:49:10 2020 No.15106128 File: 460 KB, 1280x720, Elephant hmm.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15102975 Is it just me or does he look half asian

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:50:07 2020 No.15106135 >>15106085 Elaborate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:50:27 2020 No.15106138 >>15106074 how is his life shit, he became independently wealthy, got married and had kids, and is semi-famous.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:50:31 2020 No.15106140 >>15106128 He is Asian, hes Jewish

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:51:22 2020 No.15106144 >>15106128 Definitely just you

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:52:09 2020 No.15106151 >>15103036 You probably are jm. He wouldn't know or care how to tripfag

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:54:12 2020 No.15106164 >>15106128 No, he just has a facial structure of a weak man.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:58:55 2020 No.15106206 >>15106077 That's makes a lot of sense especially when you consider that the spiritual heirs to Rome are Germans, who gassed them more recently

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:17:00 2020 No.15106343

>>15106138
>independently wealthy, got married and had kids, and is semi-famous
Yeah I'm sure the guy who can't form a sentence without 32 umms and 64 uhhs is like that because he is overjoyed with those material "successes". He definitely hasn't written about the rejection of societies current value system so that wouldn't give us a clue at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:19:42 2020 No.15106361 >>15106343 Not everyone is good at public speaking, he sounds fine to me. A lot of people reject the value system of their society because it just doesn't make sense to them, you surely arent so conformist you can't conceive of that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:24:34 2020 No.15106393 >>15106343 I don't get why people are so fixated on his ums and uhhs.. didn't bother me in the slightest, infact I think it makes him more likeable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:28:04 2020 No.15106421 >>15106361 >>15106393 Do you think he is confident? Happy? What about Land?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:31:57 2020 No.15106450 >>15106421 I dont know either of them, Moldbug sounds happy enough, Land sounds, well, slightly insane to be honest. They both at least have families. Im 90% sure you just hate these two because you're left wing or something

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:34:28 2020 No.15106470 >>15106450 >moldbug and land >right-wing lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:35:33 2020 No.15106476 >>15106074 don't bring ligotti into this pseud shit

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:36:46 2020 No.15106489

>>15106450
I definitely don't hate them I just think their negative assumptions about humanity come from their own trauma. They see all the evil and think "hmm people must be essentially and inherently evil better kill em all for the robots". Its probably low self esteem about their own shortcomings and they have fallen into this ideology where robots will fix them personally and make them the robot king if they just get rid of all the dirty humans. They only think humans are dirty because they recognize their own filth, but their cognitive dissonance thinks a dirt cleaning machine will spare them, its that or they are suicidal and want it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:36:48 2020 No.15106490 >>15106470 well they both think they are

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:39:12 2020 No.15106505

>>15106476
>ligotti
>Ligotti has suffered from chronic anxiety and anhedonia for much of his life; these have been prominent themes in his work.

>The world exists to torture humans
How is he different? I thought this guy had that nerve firing disease that makes you in constant pain.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:41:05 2020 No.15106520 >>15106489 Never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by malice.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:41:20 2020 No.15106524

>>15106489
>They see all the evil and think "hmm people must be essentially and inherently evil better kill em all for the robots".
This is Land, Moldbug says nothing like that, he barely talks about future technology. And Land doesn't think the robots are going to fix him, he thinks AI will eradicate humanity. Also I dont know why you think they have low self-esteem they both created a body of thought that they are quite certain about, and had relatively successful careers. Their hatred of humanity is also largely elitist, Land's is more universal, but there is a distinct emphasis on the unwashed masses as opposed to intelligent, civilized people, who they clearly consider themselves to be, while falling short of outright larping as aristocrats.

I don't think you have actually really read either of these people and i suspect youre projecting you're own feelings of being 'filthy' or suicidal onto them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:42:03 2020 No.15106528 File: 582 KB, 3264x3264, wow this is litreally me.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15106505 what about all of these other people who arrived at same conclusion as him?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:42:20 2020 No.15106532 >>15103215 there it is, thank you

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:43:43 2020 No.15106542 >>15102975 His friendship with Peter Thiel is the key piece here and I think Thiel himself is more impressive. No offense to Moldbug but Thiel is the kingmaker and operating on a level where guys like Moldbug are seen as investment opportunities

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:44:48 2020 No.15106555

>>15106524
>Moldbug says nothing like that, he barely talks about future technology.
Moldbug thinks he will be king CEO of patchwork because as a gen-xer he has never had to deal with the consequences of his ideology. If you really understood the Cathedral I wouldn't have to be explicitly spell out the parallels with "capital is sentient" or robots.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:45:31 2020 No.15106563 >>15106524 >self-anything >Land

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:47:12 2020 No.15106570 File: 16 KB, 454x520, 1577804747181.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15106524

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:47:36 2020 No.15106574

>>15106524
>Their hatred of humanity is also largely elitist...unwashed masses
The classic blunder.

>>15106524
>he thinks AI will eradicate humanity

>>15106489
>a dirt cleaning machine will spare them, its that or they are suicidal and want it.

>>15106555
C-A-P-I-T-A-L is going to kill Moldbug just like the robots will Land. Patchwork will devour its father.

You can disagree, but you would be wrong. You could also argue that its a good thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:48:43 2020 No.15106582 >>15106524 >YOU HAVEN'T READ Every single time.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:49:12 2020 No.15106589

>>15106555
All I can remember him talking about is cryptographic weapon locks. He mentioned in one post that he found the singularity plausible but it was just a prelude to talking about the decoupling of technological and social progress. The capital is sentient stuff is purely Landian metaphysical shit that Moldbug has literally never commented on.

Moldbug does not think he will be king of patchwork, he suggested a variety of processes to choose them, mostly in jest. He literally said even Obama as King would be an improvement. You havent read his stuff, which is fine, you are under no compulsion to read some blogger, but dont pretend you have after having read an article about him and shit up the threads

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:50:10 2020 No.15106596 File: 78 KB, 294x864, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15106574

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:50:22 2020 No.15106600 >>15106582 Well he clearly hasn't, I explained why right above. I notice you didnt respond to any of that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:50:52 2020 No.15106603 >>15106520 If you are implying that Land misrepresents himself to will a future he wants into being I completely agree.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:51:07 2020 No.15106604

>>15106490
Their definition of "right wing" is something like cosmic Darwinism though. Land especially had been calling the Alt Right and any form of ethnonationalism to be a forms of leftism (and fascism) years before the Alt Right took off. They are not operating on the standard left/right spectrum. By Land's definitions of fascism he is strongly anti-fascist and he's not playing word games he really means it

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:52:55 2020 No.15106620

>>15106589
>The capital is sentient stuff is purely Landian metaphysical shit that Moldbug has literally never commented on
No its not. You need to go back and read Kant and Marx(and their prerequisites and major responders) and do an intro class on the Protestant Reformation to understand Moldbug.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:54:54 2020 No.15106645 >>15106620 cringe you don't need anything to understand moldbugmen.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:56:32 2020 No.15106662

>>15106604
Moldbug's system resembles Monarchism, and Land's early Republicanism(think England, Netherlands 18thC). Monarchism at least is unambigously right wing, being what 'right wing' originally referred to.

And yes they both really dont like Fascism, which strikes me as a rhetorical ploy to be quite honest, but their point is that its not very different than Democracy or USSR style socialism, which they are hardly the first people to point out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:57:35 2020 No.15106674 >>15106620 quote me a Moldbug passage that touches Land's metaphysics. Moldbug sees the Protestant reformation in purely cultural terms. He literally borrows Dawkins concept of memeplexes

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:00:07 2020 No.15106696 At this point posting anything related to accelerationism should be a bannable offense. At least Guénon is a real man of letters, I can tolerate that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:01:05 2020 No.15106710 >>15106620 you realize Moldbug thinks Marx is a complete joke? He's an Austrian

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:02:19 2020 No.15106724 File: 29 KB, 250x291, 666.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15106696 OH NO NO NO guenon pbuh was teleoplexically refuted by Capital aka Nick Land hyper-pbuh.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:03:50 2020 No.15106743

>>15106589
>Moldbug does not think he will be king of patchwork,
>>15106674
>Moldbug passage that touches Land's metaphysics.

Lmao I'm not talking about what Moldbug says you idiot. I'm talking about the process that the movement is critiquing. You actually think because they use different neologisms they are talking about different things?

>>15106118
>>15106077
Do you look at these posters and think "nuh uh moldbug didn't say anything about Sumeria!" or do you recognize the reference to the time period as being the invention of sedantary lifestyle agriculture and the invention of writing? I didn't say take a class on the protestant reformation because its a fucking buzzword. Why do you think they teach Martin Luther and the 95 theses in American elementary school? How is that related to the founding of the United States? What does Protestant work ethic have to do with Capitalism?

>oh my book guy didn't say anything about that

/pol/ get out

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:05:52 2020 No.15106770

>>15106743
Moldbug and Land are not part of some 'movement'. Land commented on Moldbug because he liked things that he said. You cannot even vaguely reconcile the two of them, they contradict each other on loads of things.

The 'thing they are talking about' is not even the same thing depending which of them you ask.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:06:09 2020 No.15106773 >>15106724 This is a literature board. Literature. We are supposed to discuss poetry, novels, short-stories. Honestly, this kind of bullshit doesn't belong here.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:09:18 2020 No.15106796

>>15106710
>Moldbug thinks Marx is a complete joke
>>15106770
I can't even believe you are this stupid. The "Dark Enlightenment" is named so as a reaction to The Enlightenment. Do you think Kant wasn't an enlightenment thinker because he didn't have a Club Card and pay dues so he wasn't part of the 'movement'? If Kant were here and said "I am not part of the Enlightenment Movement" does that change what scholars are talking about when they refer to a field of work with common themes over several centuries? Do your homework.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:10:47 2020 No.15106804 >>15106796 The dark enlightenment is a term Nick Land came up with and has nothing to do with Moldbug or what he thinks. Nick Land's ideas about the subject are not some authority, they're just his perspective, and they clash with Moldbug's.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:13:01 2020 No.15106821 >>15106796 also the entire rest of the 'dark enlightenment' apart from Land think Marx was a charlatan. he is the only guy who was ever a Marxist in that crowd

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:13:23 2020 No.15106826 >>15106804 >nothing to do with Moldbug or what he thinks >they clash with Moldbug's. Stop lying lmao. We are here to discuss Moldbug. >>15106574 >You could also argue that its a good thing.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:18:37 2020 No.15106865

>>15106821
>he is the only guy who was ever a Marxist in that crowd
You don't have to be a Marxist to read Marx and he is critical for understanding what they are talking about. Land is correct regardless of what the others think.

Your insistence that these have nothing to do with each other only exposes your ignorance of your own history.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:20:37 2020 No.15106873 >>15106826 Land invented the whole Dark Enlightenment thing after Moldbug was already done with his blog. Both blogs are still up, it's easy to verify.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:22:26 2020 No.15106894 >>15106873 >invented the whole Dark Enlightenment thing You really aren't getting it if you think its a "thing" that was "invented". Land identified, correctly, a stream of thought, and gave it a label. Its not a club that people join.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:22:34 2020 No.15106896 >>15105686 >da joooooos lmao dude

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:23:35 2020 No.15106907

>>15106865
You are completely deluded

Spandrell is famous for writing an essay about how the entirety of Marxism is low status people being promised high status after the revolution, and applying this to genetically low status people as bioleninism.
Moldbug sees Marxist Communism as being a psychotic religious movement that branched off of Puritan Christianity.

What you are talking about is Nick Land's philosophical opinions, not NRx, not Moldbug.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:33:52 2020 No.15107003

>>15106907
>Moldbug sees Marxist Communism as being a psychotic religious movement that branched off of Puritan Christianity.
BOOM!
AND THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT YOU MORON

Nick Land describes how Kants transcendental argument from God lead directly into the Protestant reformation and Marx. Moldbug picks up at Calvinism and comes up with the Cathedral to describe what Marx was talking about in different terms.

They are the talking about same thing even if they disagree on what or how it should be addressed. Gramsci was even talking about the it with "hegemony" and Foucault with "Panopticon", and a reminder again even the bible talks about it.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:40:12 2020 No.15107072

>>15107003
>Moldbug picks up at Calvinism and comes up with the Cathedral to describe what Marx was talking about in different terms.
Moldbug and Marx are not describing the same thing at all. Even slightly. I have no idea how you could possibly mistake Moldbug's view of history or society for anything like Marx'. Moldbug thinks Marxism itself, not what Marxism says, but the phenomenon itself is a religious movement. Marx thought he was doing science.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:40:18 2020 No.15107075 >>15106074 >Their premise is wrong so their conclusion is wrong but the diagnosis is spot on This is 100% how I feel about Freud

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:42:18 2020 No.15107087 >>15105731 Anon, anyone that can't understand your basic point, and thinks contemporary Socialism is anything other than a trajectory of liberalism is completely lost. Don't even bother.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:44:09 2020 No.15107102 >>15102975 Is there a place for his new articles? >>15102999 hasn't been written in since 2016. >>15103046 Source??

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:44:48 2020 No.15107109 Dude looks like he’s from office space lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:46:04 2020 No.15107121 >>15105594 >By definition you cannot defend the Liberalism and be Right Wing, and you cannot be opposed to Liberalism and be Left Wing. Now that's what I call reductionist volume 15105594

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:49:44 2020 No.15107152 >>15107072 let me put it in words you can understand Capital=The Cathedral=Liberalism=The Man=Establishment=Bankers=SJWS=JEWS Now go read Marx you illiterate child.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:50:33 2020 No.15107160 >>15107152 >Now go read Marx you illiterate child. What?

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:51:18 2020 No.15107166

>>15107152
You're just drawing an equivalence between what many different people think is the problem in society. You can't seriously think this is worth saying in any way.

The concept of the Cathedral is completely different to the concept of Capital and to any materialist understanding of history/society.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:54:20 2020 No.15107184 >>15107166 And Capitalism isn't the same thing as Mercantilism but I can't explain to a retard the parallels in society between the United States and East India Trading Company if I use big words or too many at once.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:56:10 2020 No.15107195 >>15107184 You can't explain anything to anyone because you have no idea what you're talking about. I am picturing you in 2013 trying to explain to the NRx blogs that they have to read Marx, you are so far off base it is comical.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 17:00:16 2020 No.15107231

>>15107195
Do you disagree that the invention of writing, sedantary, lifestyle agriculture leads directly to surplus, debt, and trade? What word should I use to describe the link between primitive trade and modern capitalism that emerged with abrahamic monotheism?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 17:03:54 2020 No.15107270 >>15106662 >d yes they both really dont like Fascism, which strikes me as a rhetorical ploy to be quite honest, I don't know Moldbug very well but Land is didn't seem to be kidding about fascism. I think he's called himself a liberal extremist

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 17:04:50 2020 No.15107277 >>15102975 >Moldbug B E L L C U R V E M Y N I B B A

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 17:05:27 2020 No.15107279

>>15107231
I don't know because your entire schema there is foreign to me.

One of the most prominent Nrx members Jim frequently says that people who tell you that capitalism is recent, ie. didnt exist in the ancient world, want to murder you and your children. This is how far from Marx the people we are discussing here are. They all also unambiguously like capitalism and see it as the engine for prosperity and healthy competition in society that will naturally occur in a free state. They mostly use Austrian economics and similar systems.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 17:08:25 2020 No.15107306 >>15103598 Not him but it sounds like you're selecting retards to talk to, don't complain about retarded replies then.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 17:12:43 2020 No.15107353

>>15106662
Here's something

> Partisan political stuff is as tacky as you can get, and if anything could get people chucked out of NRx (and into the garbage-compressor of history), that should be it. Having said that, and — of course — in a spirit of the loftiest imaginable detachment, here’s just the slightest morsel.

https://www.xenosystems.net/popcorn-activism/

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 17:38:09 2020 No.15107560

>>15107279
Yes that makes sense because a lot of Marxists make the distinction that Capitalism specifically describes the economic conditions of private ownership of productive property and commodity production for profit and a lot of non-marxists think capitalism = markets.

What I'm saying is that the Enlightenment was a reaction to feudalistic monarchy with Right of Kings. If God chose the King but we don't have a King anymore how do we reconcile God? Anglo-Protestant ideology has their answer for that in the reformation "Life, Liberty, Property" and then it kills God as Nietzsche says. So what are we left with? Liberalism. And an empty Cathedral full of machines. So neoreaction or TDE is a reaction to the reaction to the enlightenment.

https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/archive/stove/

>The reason why all such answers are unhelpful is a very simple and obvious, but important and neglected, fact. Namely, that what is wrong with the Hegel passage, say, is quite different from what is wrong with the Plotinus pasage; that both of those pasages are quite different again, in what is wrong with them, from the Foucault passage; and that all three pasages are quite different, yet again, from all answers to the question, whom or what the Holy Ghost proceeds from. My four specimens are all profoundly pathological, no doubt; but each of them is pathological in a different way. What we need to know is, what these various ways are. But that is what no Logical Positivist, and still less anyone else, can tell us.

>And this is how we are placed in relation to the entire history of philosophy. Whatever it was that went so dreadfully wrong with Berkeley’s thoughts about the possibility of things existing ‘without the mind’, it certainly cannot have been what went wrong with Meinong’s thoughts on the same topic. What went wrong with Parmenides’ thoughts about how many things there are, must have ben very diferent from whatever went wrong in Leibniz’s Monadology. The way that Moore’s thoughts went wrong about ethics cannot possibly have been the same way as Kant’s thoughts about ethics went wrong. Spinoza’s way of getting the relation between the actual and the posible wrong, cannot posibly be the same as David Lewis’s way. And so it goes on, right down the line; and we do not know what any of those ways of going wrong are.

>Our situation is actually a good deal worse than I have just implied. For even in a single paragraph of Hegel, say, there is, presumably, not just one thing that has gone wrong, but half a dozen things which have all gone wrong together; while we are not able to identify a single one of them. And this is after how many centuries of philosophical discipline, books of logic, guides to the perplexed, arts of thinking, rules for the conduct of the intellect, essays concerning human understanding, critiques of reason… ?

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 17:39:11 2020 No.15107569

>>15107560
>My four examples above are, then, sufficiently representative, respectively, of Christian theology, of neo-Platonist metaphysics, of German idealism, and of whatever it is that Foucault represents. Those four things, in their turn, are sufficiently representative of what human thought, in its highest reaches, has been. My four examples, however, are also examples of thought gone hopelessly wrong. A damning verdict therefore follows, on past human thought: a verdict essentially the same as the one which was pronounced on it by the eighteenth century Enlightenment, and repeated, with even greater vehemence, by the Logical Positivists in the twentieth century.

You fuckers almost tricked me into thinking I was wrong

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 17:43:11 2020 No.15107603 Isn't he a nazi though

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 17:48:12 2020 No.15107639 >>15106773 Land writes poetry. and his philosophy is built like poetry. it's beautiful and intelligent anon, just read it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 17:49:57 2020 No.15107657 >>15107603 not in the least. he sees the nazis in the same way Adorno did. and Land considers the nazis an effect of inherent misogyny in the system.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 18:00:37 2020 No.15107746 >>15102994 With a heavy addition of jewish.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 18:02:30 2020 No.15107765 >>15102975 He just reads wikipedia articles on history and regurgitates half digested information

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 18:02:32 2020 No.15107767

>>15102975
unironically just spent all day reading him for the first time and came to /lit/ to ask questions, only to find this thread.
he's fucking based. I cannot wait to dive into all his book recommendations. he has a great understanding of the underlying forces behind American history.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 18:06:14 2020 No.15107812 >>15104151 justin murphy has a path to becoming based. needs to drop the muh leftist shit first and foremost

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 18:06:26 2020 No.15107813 File: 16 KB, 480x360, can't starve the yarv.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aa2UJX_EpQ Kinda comfy doe

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 18:07:02 2020 No.15107820 >>15104113 Blacks thought they were immune to HIV too. It's in there nature.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 18:14:19 2020 No.15107879 >>15107813 uh... um... uh... ummmmmm uhh

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 19:04:24 2020 No.15108252 File: 1.79 MB, 1600x1067, 1572191918686.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15106528 >Schopenhauer, Michelstaedter, Mainlaender(?) >?, Pessoa, Cioran >Ligotti, ?, ? help me out here anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 19:39:32 2020 No.15108584 >>15102975 who do I need to read before Moldbug?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 19:45:19 2020 No.15108633 >>15106662 Fascism has a populist component that they both despise

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 19:48:20 2020 No.15108652 >>15108584 you don't understand your writings anymore? are you going to be okay?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 20:04:41 2020 No.15108769 >>15108652 kill yourself fag

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 21:18:40 2020 No.15109288

>>15103046
South Korea, China, Singapore, Taiwan
What do the four countries most effective at combating the Coronavirus have in common? Certainly not their position on the Libertarian <-> Statist/Authoritarian spectrum.
>The first tier is Asia; the second tier is continental Europe; the third tier is the US and the UK; the fourth tier is the Third World.
What do you notice? Is it perhaps not a coincidence that these tiers fall along the lines of average IQ by race that free thinkers (cringe term but there's no other word for it) have known about for a decade, now?

Of course, if Curtis spent his time advocating Human Biodiversity instead of Authoritarianism, he'd be much less interesting than he is now. But that doesn't mean the authoritarianism is more true/valuable than basic facts about human biology.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 21:20:06 2020 No.15109292 >>15108584 nothing honestly, his blog is full of book recommendations for the stuff he's talking about. Read his article "Join the Froude Society" for example for a sort of required reading list

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 21:20:58 2020 No.15109302 >>15108769 look in the mirror.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 21:22:45 2020 No.15109308 >>15107639 I've tried read Land. Honestly, I just can't stand his prose. He's way too deep into this 'cyberpunk' aesthetic of his, it seems asinine to me. Also, I concluded he was a hack after I read some of his tweets.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:26:09 2020 No.15110046 >>15109292 where's his blog?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:30:00 2020 No.15110061 >>15109308 maybe you're just a pseud. can't into neologistic speed?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:42:57 2020 No.15110152 >>15110046 https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/ This is the bulk of his work, from 2007 - 2014 his recent stuff is on medium and claremont institute

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:42:32 2020 No.15110431 >>15110061 I just have good taste. Something you seem to lack.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:18:20 2020 No.15110585 >>15102975 Weird, this appears to be a shill thread for Kantbot's new podcast and yet no-one has mentioned it ... ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:27:17 2020 No.15110611 Why did he endorse Bernie? That was mega cringe. Was it some sort of 64d chess move?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:30:30 2020 No.15110622 >>15110585 What happened to TekWars? Did Warren get BTFO?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:33:03 2020 No.15110634 >>15110585 >>15110622 Ok kuntbot will the beans

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:36:16 2020 No.15110641

>>15110622
Apparently something happened on the Salo episode. I think Warren may have gotten mogged by him. I don't know though because I don't feel like listening to it. Also Warren is one of those normalfags who won't shut the fuck up about his GF. You know the type, you beat him in a game of chess and he says to you "Well at least I have a GF!" Also pretty much everything he said on the podcast was awkward and useless.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:51:13 2020 No.15110696 >>15103460 kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:52:20 2020 No.15110704 >>15102975 stop crying about ideas curtis

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:59:51 2020 No.15110735 >>15110641 Anyone have the real scoop on this

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 02:05:49 2020 No.15110756
File: 112 KB, 614x554, Screenshot from 2020-04-16 00-03-47.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>15110735
and post on kantbots new patreon
TekWars is Over

Another thing, while I’m at it. Tekwars is dissolved, legally speaking. I consider the show to be over, and completely dissociate myself from whatever anyone tries to do with the name from here on out (besides William Shatner).

I don’t have any access to the Gumroad account, and on advice of my lawyer have severed all communication with Warren. I have no plans to discuss the matter on this show. Check your billing on your gumroad subscriptions. Last I heard, payouts associated with the account were suspended, and I don’t know if you’re still subscribed, whether you will continue to be charged.

I can’t contact and email the subscribers to let them know about the situation, I’d ask you all here to help out and let others know that the show is continuing here.

Another thing, while I’m at it. Tekwars is dissolved, legally speaking. I consider the show to be over, and completely dissociate myself from whatever anyone tries to do with the name from here on out (besides William Shatner).

I don’t have any access to the Gumroad account, and on advice of my lawyer have severed all communication with Warren. I have no plans to discuss the matter on this show. Check your billing on your gumroad subscriptions. Last I heard, payouts associated with the account were suspended, and I don’t know if you’re still subscribed, whether you will continue to be charged.

I can’t contact and email the subscribers to let them know about the situation, I’d ask you all here to help out and let others know that the show is continuing here.

Warren was always in over his head and it was painful when he tried to get a word in. But Kantbot is sort of an idiot too and the more he talks the more he is exposed

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 02:47:53 2020 No.15110881 kantbots new podcast is pure cringe from the start fat fucking newman lookalike

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 04:59:33 2020 No.15111339 >>15106489 do you like Maistre

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 09:04:42 2020 No.15112522 >>15104100 The tristate area is one of the densest urban areas on the planet and has half of all of USAs cases

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 09:07:51 2020 No.15112546 >>15110881 podcasts are cringe

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 09:09:44 2020 No.15112556 >>15103460 >>15102980 criminally underrated

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 09:30:48 2020 No.15112679 >>15110756 are the episodes available anywhere else? didn't have time to subscribe and listen yet

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 09:32:57 2020 No.15112691 >>15103460 based

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 10:10:15 2020 No.15112930 >>15110756 This still doesn't explain everything Did they get in shit for using the tekwars name? Also sounds like it was about money.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 11:37:39 2020 No.15113641 why is this guy talking about himself in the third person. it's really weird, and you aren't fooling anyone if that's your intention.

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