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15094543 No.15094543 [Reply] [Original]

>destroys your jewish religion

>> No.15094602

>”destroys” religion with le epic subversive nihilistic materialism prevalent among jews

>> No.15094611

>>15094602
>le freakin heakin

>> No.15095436

>>15094602
>he didn't read it

>> No.15095455

>>15095436
This faggot doesn't read exactly like the rest of the cancerous christards on this board. It's not a surprise.

>> No.15095458

>>15095436
I did you idiot. And it is dumb. How can an infinite “god” be conditioned by finite necessities? His “god” is not free, but slave of a supernatural (meaning beyond god since the jew thought nature and god were the same) Necessity.

>> No.15095488

>>15095458
How can an infinite God be conditioned by human necessities such as a book and needing common jews to run errands for him?

>> No.15095506

>>15095458
>Anthropologic conception of God
Necessities are in God and only because of him, those just describe relations of natural things

>> No.15095568

>>15095506
Necessities are not in God, otherwise he would not be free and would be conditioned by an other beyond Him. Necessities are from Him. God is not comprehended by any kind of conception you dumbfuck.

>> No.15095718
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15095718

>Anno Domini 2020
>he is still an atheistic deistic larper
>he still does not believe in Christ
>he still confuses essence/ousia with hypostasis
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.15095728

>>15095718
>christcuck is an anime tranny LARPer
>doesn't even know the whole christcuck philosophy is derived from platonism
Color me surprised

>> No.15095741

@15095728
>platonism
>>he is still an atheistic deistic larper
>>he still does not believe in Christ
>>he still confuses essence/ousia with hypostasis
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.15095763

>>15095718
>>15095741
Lmao i know right? Only people with absolutely no metaphysical knowledge would fall for “what if god were nature???” So profound.

>> No.15095768

>>15095741
>doesn't even know what platonism is because his only source of knowledge is a jewish power fantasy
>LARPs as a non-brainlet
>probably cries like a baby every time he touches his dick
Oh nonononono

>> No.15095770

>>15095728
Based the best Christian's are semi-arian Messianic jew BVLLS

>> No.15095794

>>15095770
The best christians are only the dead ones. The best way to argue with a christian is with a bullet through his head.

>> No.15096363

Spinoza is one of few Jews that drew the collective ire of the Jewish community at such an extreme level. And for that, I respect the man.

>> No.15096395

>>15095794
cringe

>> No.15096449

>>15095568
>" God does not conceive in his understanding possibilities, but understands the necessity of his own nature. Infinite understanding is not the locus of the possible, but the form of the idea that God necessarily has of himself or of his own essence." ("Expressionism in Philosophy: Spinoza"; Deleuze, G.; p. 100
Is God who necessites God, and so God is free, according to Spinoza's definition of freedom: "which exists solely by the necessity of its own nature, and of which the action is determined by itself alone"
This is only truth if we consider God as the substance

>> No.15097129

>>15096449
>God does not conceive in his understanding possibilities
He comprehends and at the same time trascends all things, manifested, manifestable and non-manifested.

God in His essence does not necessitate anything, it is beyond any conception. There is no tension or dialectics in God. He does not necessitate Himself to be fulfilled by Himself, or He does not need to be Himself to be free. He eludes even apophatic assertions. ''Doing nothing, there is nothing He does not do''.

That perhaps could be affirmed of God in His Circumincession, but not of His essence. I just have no idea how all of this could lead one to infer Deus sive Natura. The logoi are immanent-transcendent idea-wills of the transcendent Logos.

>> No.15097639

Wasn't he religious?

>> No.15097668

>>15095718
based

>>15094543
cringe

>> No.15097699

>>15097639
He didn't follow organized religion

>> No.15098811

>>15097129
Cringe
We're not even using the same concept of God, it's senseless to debate. I don't know who of us both the foolest

>> No.15099184

>>15094543
But that's not Paul OP

>> No.15099232

>>15095488
>How can an infinite God be conditioned by human necessities such as a book and needing common jews to run errands for him?
It is impossible indeed. You should perhaps read the Sermon of the Mount.

>> No.15100721

>spinoza

Cringed

>> No.15100875

>>15099232
>read some Jew teling you to be a doormat cuck
No thanks

>> No.15100961

>>15094543
I've never read Spinoza. Would you recommend a work of his?

>> No.15101291

>>15095458
Nature or God is not conditioned but a necessary existing substance. If for you the necessity of existing makes something unfree, then sure. He compares it to a triangle, it follows from the definition of a triangle that the triangle exists. In the same way, substance, because it can be thought, must exist. His metaphysical system is defined by the premise that a causal relation in the real world is the same as a logical relation of the ideas. That’s how he knows there’s substance, because it is the root/base that must exist if you want to have thoughts at all. These truths (God exists) are infinite in the same way a “triangle is triangle-shaped”, or “bachelors are unmarried” are infinite.
Read it again anon, pay attention to the proofs this time.

>> No.15101398

>>15094543
I personally don't think he cared about his religion. I think he personally just didn't like authority.