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15092533 No.15092533[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Good books on beauty? Is it subjective or objective?

>> No.15092540

>>15092533
>Is it subjective or objective?
Why is it always about this with you retards?

>> No.15092541

>>15092533
my penis just turned black and fell off

>> No.15092544

jesus fucking christ it's like that half-rotted old lady in The Shining. I would be ashamed to have an ass like that, how does that even happen?

>> No.15092582

>>15092533
I think it's a mix of both. There are erogenous areas (stomach, chest, face, genitals) that people are attracted to in degrees but what is actually aesthetically pleasing is different.
Sometimes girls are cute with little pudgy tummies and other times I can only get hard looking at girls with rock hard abs.

>> No.15092602

>>15092582
why are you bringing up sex? You can think that any creature of any age, species, gender, or race can be beautiful to sell extent. You can think that nature is beautiful, or a painting is beautiful. You can think that little girls are beautiful. What function does this awareness of beauty serve, if not based on sexual reproduction? Why do many images evoke awe in almost everyone, as if it is obvious that the thing admired is beautiful, whereas other things cause disagreement?

>> No.15092615

>>15092602
Some people get hard at seeing little girls do gymnastics. Little girls make people feel sexually excited. Thank u for this thread

>> No.15092715

>>15092533
i will unironically masturbate to this

>> No.15092727

>>15092533
Plato's writing on aesthetics which argues for objectivity.

>> No.15092735

>>15092715
I will pray for you.

>> No.15092739

>>15092615
little girls make my heart catch on fire

>> No.15092754 [DELETED] 
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15092754

>>15092739

>> No.15092758

>>15092754
MOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDSSSSSS!!!!!

>> No.15092769

>>15092754
objectively beautiful to me

>> No.15092805

>>15092533
Beauty is the feeling of power that overcomes while observing a form. Since this feeling of power in relation to the forms it exhalts is evolutionarily determined, and no two minds are equal in their observing and determining, then beauty is subjective. Beauty is claimed to be objective by the resentful who are weary of fighting against other determinations of beauty, and is thus a sign of degeneration in the lifeform.

>> No.15092838

>>15092805
False. It is actually the resentful who claim it is subjective. An overweight crossdresser is objectively not as beautiful as Brigitte Bardot. You would have to be retarded to claim such a thing is subjective.

>> No.15092857

objective beauty obviously exists. Just google images “/tv/ television and film”

>> No.15092870

>OMG. YOU CANT POST PICTURE OF LITTLE GIRL BECAUSE THAT MEANS SEX

Y’all are the real pedos

>> No.15092881

>>15092870
>obsessing over cute kittens is something to brag about but you can’t look at cute children
you’re right

>> No.15092894

>>15092838
>An overweight crossdresser is objectively not as beautiful as Brigitte Bardot. You would have to be retarded to claim such a thing is subjective.
All I would need to do to prove you wrong is create some lifeform with a mental determination of beauty that emits pleasure / some artificial feeling of power while thinking and percieving the attributes and qualities of the overweight crossdresser, and release an artificial feeling of weakness and inability over the attributes and qualities of Brigitte Bardot. It is your inability to empathize that leaves you limited to your "objective" evaluation. For you, there is superiority in beauty for Bridgitte, but a contrary could easily, quite literally, be constructed (and this valuation could even be advantageous depending on the lifeform in question).

>> No.15092896

dat ass

>> No.15092908

>>15092894
well your life form is disabled and unhealthy

>> No.15092915

>>15092894
>All I would need to do to prove you wrong is create some lifeform with a mental determination of beauty that emits pleasure / some artificial feeling of power while thinking and percieving the attributes and qualities of the overweight crossdresser, and release an artificial feeling of weakness and inability over the attributes and qualities of Brigitte Bardot.

Okay but that doesn't actually exist outisde of your thoughts. Beautiful and handsome things are considered so for a reason. People didn't just randomly agree to call specific traits handsome for no reason at all.

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15092925

why would he share this to his audience of children and man children?

>> No.15092938

>>15092925
Who is this guy anyway?

>> No.15092958

>>15092908
>well your life form is disabled and unhealthy
You still don't understand. If my lifeform was a human-like creature that existed on earth, then yes. But I could concieve of a non-human creature that doesn't exist on earth that could derive more "health" from intermingling with the tranny than Bridgit.
>>15092915
>Okay but that doesn't actually exist outisde of your thoughts.
How do you know? There is no way of confirming nor denying some such creature does not already exist, even possibly here on earth.
>Beautiful and handsome things are considered so for a reason.
No, they are felt, then a reason is interpreted behind the feelings, and this is what we are discussing: that this reason can vary depending on the lifeform in question.
>People didn't just randomly agree to call specific traits handsome for no reason at all.
People generally agree that different traits are beautiful because they are similar lifeforms, in this case, because they both have attributes which leads to their specification as "human".

>> No.15092985

>>15092894
>All I would need to do to prove you wrong is create some lifeform with a mental determination of beauty that emits pleasure / some artificial feeling of power while thinking and percieving the attributes and qualities of the overweight crossdresser
>All I would need to do to prove evolution wrong is create some creature that doesn't have the capacity to evolve
>All I would need to do to prove relativity wrong is create an object which can go faster than light

>> No.15093025

>>15092540
Kek, /lit/ hasn't left the discourse of the 18th century

>> No.15093117

>>15092533
Read BAP. Makes a good case for beauty being objective

>> No.15093150
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>>15093117
>twitter p-shood make a good case for it

>> No.15093158

>>15092533
Things that are good for you are actually bad for you, and things that are bad for you are actually good for you. Being morbidly obese, doing heroin and having a weak dick? Good. Being physically fit, smart and having a hard dick? Closeted homosexual, reactionary bullshit.

>> No.15093174

>>15093150
He uses Twitter and a funny name for himself uh oh! I can tell you've never read his book. He takes a lot from the Greeks and Nietzsche which he uses to validate the importance and power of aesthetics and beauty

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>>15093158
Um cring

>> No.15093253

>>15092533
Everything is subjective, as everyone is unique. But only I am The Unique.

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>>15093244
I'm righ

>> No.15093315

>>15093258
Is being a fat queer good?

>> No.15093316

>>15093315
It isn't, no.

>> No.15093397

>>15092533
>or
It's a real thing accessed by subject. Ever since the radio was invented Plato should be easy.

>> No.15093706

>>15092938
Obese Jew YouTube “commentator”

Makes dumb reaction videos for man children

>> No.15094679

subjectively objective

>> No.15094781

>>15092533
this disgusting creature became popular by ripping off Sam Hyde and it baffles me how big he became