Hegel and the Hermetic Tradition

[Anonymous No.15084672]

I think this was intended to "debunk" Hegel as a rational philosopher, "exposing" his irrational presuppositions. But now that the dust has settled, has anyone tried to double down and go with it? I mean attempting a positive Hermeticist exegesis of Hegel or a renewal of Hermeticism by means of Hegel? Because I'm thinking I wanna go for it.

[Anonymous No.15084684]

Yawn. The Golden Dawn in 1903 called.

[Anonymous No.15084704]

Considering how much this board posts about the occult, hermeticism, perennialism, and esoteric thinkers, I would have assumed they'd be all over this book like flies on shit. This board ALSO loves Hegel, so the lack of attention this book gets puzzles me even more. Why wouldn't /lit/ jump at the chance to consider Hegel one of hermeticism's greatest triumphs? Yet we don't, and I've never figured out why.

[Anonymous No.15084779]

>>15084704
Beats me

[Anonymous No.15084782]

>>15084704
Because it's a secret. Shut up, faggot.

[Anonymous No.15084812]

>>15084704
the people who meme all that kind of stuff aren't well read enough to understand Hegel. Most people that are end up wanting to "go past him" because Hegel only speaks of the past, and thus "has no future" (paraphrasing Heidegger here). I think Hegel does have a future for Schizoposters though.. hopefully one of them reads this.

[Anonymous No.15084815]

>>15084812
Hegel gets memed into the occult here all the time, bozo doofus dumb-dumb.

[Anonymous No.15084822]

>>15084812
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Hegel CREATES the future? Isn't that the whole point of viewing him through a Hermetic/occult lens? The idea that he has, to put it crudely, cast a spell, one that has altered the course of history and continues to alter it?

[Anonymous No.15084847]

>>15084812
I can't wait for Heidegger and the Taoist Tradition to come out

[Anonymous No.15084861]

>>15084822
We all collectively create the future. Alone together in these little tunnels and can ascend or descend at any angle in this unfurling tortoid you're in.

[Anonymous No.15084870]

>>15084847
And Schelling and the Kabbalistic tradition

[Anonymous No.15084878]

>>15084870
And Your Mom and the My Cock tradition.

[Anonymous No.15084885]

>>15084878
More like You and the Incel Tradition

[Anonymous No.15084890]

>>15084885
More like Seethe and Dilate tradition.

[Anonymous No.15084944]

>>15084822
Kind of, because he is the one who reveals that the world process is historical and has become self aware of that, which presents a paradox in that something cannot overpower itself, and therefore there can be no such thing as progress after self-awareness. At the end of the Phenomenology it reads like Hegel is declaring that the world no longer is capable of progress. Its more like he prevents progress than makes the future. That seems like a bit of magic spell, but, really, my reading of it is more like a blank slate.

Before self-awareness, things just happened because they happened. After self-awareness, things can still happen, but they must happen consciously. This is why Marx, declares that "philosophers have only interpreted the world, the point is to change it."

Hegel doesn't create the future, but he forces us to come to terms with the fact that we are the ones who create the future, it doesn't just "come"

[Anonymous No.15085192]

>>15084704
Pseuds meme Hegel. This is a Kantboard.

[Anonymous No.15085251]

>>15084870
And Hamann and the Rosicrucian Tradition

[Anonymous No.15086413]

>>15085251
And Hume and the Scottish Rite

[Anonymous No.15086616]

>>15084704
We just like memeing about those things, not taking them seriously

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.15086633]

>>15084704
>>15084672

We didn’t need a book to know this, Hegel writes pretty clearly about the great influence Jacob boehme had over him in his history of philosophy.


Read this https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/hp/hpboehme.htm and compare it with Hegel’s overall model, or hell just read a basic intro to boehme like clavis and you can see the clear relation.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.15086662]

Also, thelema itself tells people to read Hegel and according to Kenneth grant the last student of Crowley who’s typhonianism is imo the best elaboration since Crowley’s work, thelema Itself is simply a mystical and sorcerous application of the Hegelian dialectic, in which Nuit is the Absolute, Hadit is the idea and heru ra ha is the idea of the absolute within the absolute idea. And in this is the identification of man with the union of microcosm and macrocosm, all time and the singular event, the rose and cross, spirit and matter are also unified in this marriage according to grant. So to grant, Thelema as a whole is plainly Hegelian.