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15050157 No.15050157 [Reply] [Original]

Poorly structured.

>> No.15050164

Every novel written before A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man is fucking garbage so I don't know what you were expecting.

>> No.15050173

>>15050164
This is a hot take

>> No.15050174

The cetology parts are suppossed to be there, it's all part of the novel anon
Wait a minuet, did you really think novels were only about narratives? Kek was a pleb

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>>15050164
the fuck did you just say to me you little bitch

>> No.15050184

>>15050164
Now that's a book with good pace. Love that thirty page sermon about the flames of hell; definitely one of his most genius moments and not cringe at all.

>> No.15050199

>>15050184
You got filtered hard, holy shit.

>> No.15050202

>>15050157
Poorly posted.

>> No.15050205

>>15050157
filtered by the cetology, i presume.

>> No.15050225

>>15050184
Imagine getting filtered harder than the guy who didn't get the cetology chapters kek

>> No.15050253

>>15050205
I read the whole book, I still say it was poorly structured.

>> No.15050271

>>15050174
>>15050205
>>15050225
Just because the cetology shit was supposed to be there doesn't mean it has any worth.
Come on big brain, surely you should be able to explain this masterful filter? Oh, you say it was to show that he's obsessed? Gee whizz Melville is a genius.

>> No.15050335

>>15050271
The cetology chapters are ruminations and observations on the natural world, retard, if you can't see the philosophical and aesthetic vaule you're blind

>> No.15050346

>>15050271
thanks for confirming my theory

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>>15050271
>doesn't mean it has any worth
Ok since this has to be spelled out for you, the cetology chapter shows how unable humans are at being able to capture the sublimity of the natural world in technical descriptions alone. The cetology chapters could be 100 pages each, and still you would realize that there would be more to say, or that something fundamental about the nature of whales would be left unknown; asymptotically reaching closer and closer, but just as nature, and God and everything else, there is always something missing in an attempt to categorize them, and that the scientific lens of the cetology chapters can only be supplemented by the intuition and feeling of the rest of the book to have a more livid picture of whales and all they stand for in some semblance of their totality,

>> No.15050368

>>15050271
It attempts to be "expansive", but, in reality, this is merely a meme.

>> No.15050409
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>>15050335
>>15050346
>>15050365
Lmao Melville fans have the funniest Stockholm syndrome.
It's just an outdated book about a man obsessed with whales, meant to entertain and "inform" people who'll never once set out into nature for themselves.

>> No.15050414

How do people STILL not know what the cetology chapters are about ehen the book practically shouts it at you

Thus speak of the whale, the great Cuvier, and John Hunter, and Lesson, those lights of zoology and anatomy. Nevertheless, though of real knowledge there be little, yet of books there are a plenty; and so in some small degree, with cetology, or the science of whales. Many are the men, small and great, old and new, landsmen and seamen, who have at large or in little, written of the whale. Run over a few:- The Authors of the Bible; Aristotle; Pliny; Aldrovandi; Sir Thomas Browne; Gesner; Ray; Linnaeus; Rondeletius; Willoughby; Green; Artedi; Sibbald; Brisson; Marten; Lacepede; Bonneterre; Desmarest; Baron Cuvier; Frederick Cuvier; John Hunter; Owen; Scoresby; Beale; Bennett; J. Ross Browne; the Author of Miriam Coffin; Olmstead; and the Rev. T. Cheever. But to what ultimate generalizing purpose all these have written, the above cited extracts will show.

>> No.15050450

>>15050414
>How do people STILL not know what the cetology chapters are about ehen the book practically shouts it at you
Many people are lazy readers who almost skim everything, seeking only narative because they don't take the time (or lack the intelligence) to pick up on themes
>>15050409
someone >>15050365 fucking explains exactly what the significance is and you still refuse to acknowledge it because you're either too stupid to understand it or too stubborn to admit you were wrong.
If you are an adult you should not continue to be filtered by Melville
see:

>> No.15050454

>>15050409
Every book is outdated as soon as it's written and can be easily reduced to "just a book about x." Why are you here?

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>>15050409
Melville himself said that the book was explictly made as three in one: the accounts of the whale, the romance of the pequod, and the cetology sections. Each section is central to the book and it's message, to ignore this is to ignore the struggles and pains of the artist
>outdated
Melville is the first of the modernist tradition, he devouted every part of his being to his novel, he nearly died while writing it, every word he wrote has it's purpose. Please, inform yourself on the life of an artist before judging their works

>> No.15050488

>>15050414
What are they about? I've never read Moby Dick.

>> No.15050543

>>15050157
It's a book about obsession you fucking moron

Of couse it's poorly structured

>> No.15050680

>>15050488
It's conflating our inability to grasp at the whale with our inability to grasp at all parts of life. Look at the list and consider who's referenced as those who wrote of whales