>tfw afraid i might become a midwit How the fuck do i stop this from happening brehs What separates a midwit from someone who's actually smart and intelligent? What is the key defining factor?

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Anonymous Tue Apr 7 13:35:43 2020 No.15041842 [Reply] [Original]

>tfw afraid i might become a midwit
How the fuck do i stop this from happening brehs
What separates a midwit from someone who's actually smart and intelligent? What is the key defining factor?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 13:53:34 2020 No.15041972 >>15041842 bamp

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:02:26 2020 No.15042026 >>15041842 If you are good at math then you are smart basically, I don't think you can control this so don't worry about it. Wisdom comes from experience and not having a big ego.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:03:52 2020 No.15042037 >>15042026 >Wisdom comes from experience and not having a big ego. Looks like im doomed to be a midwit then

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:06:40 2020 No.15042059 >>15041842 >become Oh, my dear Anon...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:07:16 2020 No.15042063 >>15042037 Yeah the fact that you made this thread shows your ego is a problem lol!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:08:34 2020 No.15042071 >>15042026 I know people who are good at math yet they're colossal retards and plebs on anything that's not math.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:12:10 2020 No.15042096

We all fall back to our natural state. The hands were dealt before we were born.
If you're a genius you'll naturally stay away from places like 4chan, you'll actually be passionate about books and knowledge, studying will be a pleasure and a breeze to you. Even without reading any books, you will be quick, witty, intelligent and a clear thinker. People around you will compliment you on your intelligence. Midwits will be reminded that intelligence is not how many books you've read whenever they interact with you. Mid to low IQs will try to put you down because you contradict their narrative that everyone can become smart given they try hard enough.

If you're low IQ you also fall back to your natural state: anime, TV, youtube, shitposting and perhaps a shitty job on the side to earn money. However, if you have an intellectual nature in you, it will be hell. You will constantly think about how you could become smarter. Sometimes people will convince you that it's not all innate, that you can change yourself, and naturally you will believe them because you're low IQ. You'll start reading books, pretending like you actually care. For a while. Quickly you will get bored, disillusioned, forget most of what you've read and fall back to your old habits. It will be like the short period never happened. You'll have constant reoccurring thoughts: "Am I a midwit? Wait, am I actually stupid? How did I even get through high school with my brain? Is the reason I don't have any friends my low IQ?". You'll either try to get the questions out of your head. What matters most is to do your best, you will think. But you will know that was a lie. That project that took you 3 months to complete? A high IQ person could have done it in a week and you know it. Eventually, if you're lucky, you will come to terms with your midwit intellect and you'll stop looking for the cure. There is no cure. And you'll laugh at other midwits who think they can become smarter by reading many books or who try to pose. But because intelligence is so central to your value system and society, you will never feel fully secure in yourself, you will always feel defective, not fully human.
If it's not clear by now, in the second paragraph I'm describing myself. If you think you fit the description, you're in for a ride OP. One more thing I can say is that once you come to terms with being a midwit, social interaction becomes much easier. You will no longer fear saying something dumb because there's nothing to prove: you've accepted that you're a midwit.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:19:09 2020 No.15042149 >>15041842 don't mistake your habits for a sign of intelligence. Anybody that tells you that you would read if you were a genius is stupid. Oh, also, you are already a moron. I know we're supposed to be subjective, but you are. Sorry.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:20:58 2020 No.15042161 >>15042071 I've never known anyone like that. Either they weren't actually good at math or you just didn't like their opinion on something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:22:27 2020 No.15042172 File: 116 KB, 1666x1000, Bertfag.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15042161 >ive never known anyone like that hmm

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:26:20 2020 No.15042198 >>15041842 midwits rarely wonder if theyre midwits. that's how i know i'm one, i've never even considered the possibility

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:27:22 2020 No.15042205 >>15042198 But you just did

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:34:15 2020 No.15042264 >>15042198 actually the most midwit thing is to think that there is a paradox to consider when considering intelligence. I understand your intent but ur dumb.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:38:38 2020 No.15042292 >>15041842 2 things >freedom of social conditioning , reject all nigger achons >awareness of awareness bugman micro intelligence is not it, its just inside box thinking

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:46:44 2020 No.15042338

>>15041842
The key factor is if you actually care about learning to gain knowledge, as opposed to learning to seem smart.
This can include:
>Genuinely learning a language
>Reading textbooks in-depth, not just on the surface level
>Legitimately studying philosophy and reading books in-depth, referring to papers and guides as necessary.

>>15042096
This is among the most midwit posts I've seen on this site.
There was a mathematics PhD student who breezed through life. The first time he truly got stuck, he quit, had living conditions similar to a NEET, and studies bus timetables. His name was Simon Norton.
A University of Toronto study has also shown that conscientiousness, or work ethic, is one of the strongest predictors of success in graduate school by a significant margin.
Finally, I've heard of several stories where former enlisted Marines move on to go to graduate school, get a Master's and PhD, and later become professors in academia.

You can decide whether you want to spin a narrative that IQ is the reason you're not successful, or figure out how to maximize your resources and opportunities to find success defined by you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:50:19 2020 No.15042356 >>15042205 That's because it was actually a clever comment. You just showed everyone on the board you are a brainlet incapable of understanding a layered joke

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:51:21 2020 No.15042363 >>15041842 Your emotional IQ is more important. Get your emotions under control and you can do anything

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 15:27:27 2020 No.15042632 >>15041842 What is he thinking about?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:06:33 2020 No.15042912 >>15042161 I'm double majoring math/philosophy & I definitely know people who fit that description.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:07:34 2020 No.15042920 >>15042912 How bad is modern philosophy in terms of its departments and students being insane echo chambers filled with nepotists and zealots?

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:12:35 2020 No.15042961

>>15041842
It is very easily found
If your IQ sites between 105 and 125, you are a midwit.
It's that simple. That's not to say midwits are bad - Feynman was objectively a midwit, I unironically am smarter than him. Yet I am a pathetic NEET who's only ever had sex with one girl and who will never accomplish anything in life, and he is the father of quantum electrodynamics, so it doesn't really matter if you're a midwit.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:13:28 2020 No.15042969
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>>15041842
>>15041842
nothing wrong with this.
Don't fall in love with your own intelligence as Lucifer's pride led him to before his fall. However, be careful not to fall into oafish ignorance as well, and be destroyed by your own carelessness.
Just pay attention to the world around you enough to not be completely caught off guard, but don't ever fool yourself into thinking that you know it all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:14:14 2020 No.15042974 only midwits care about if they are midwits or not

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:14:19 2020 No.15042975

>>15042920
I imagine it depends on the school to some extent. I've yet to experience anything particularly annoying fitting the description you offer. I suspect that the frequently invoked caricature of your average humanities department is much more reflective of many anons autistic inability to deal with the outside world than it is some endemic condition plaguing academia.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:15:09 2020 No.15042980 >>15042961 >Feynman was objectively a midwit, I unironically am smarter than him you aren't

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:15:37 2020 No.15042982 Worrying about being a midwit is the most midwit shit you can do

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:19:12 2020 No.15043000 only midwits use ugly neologisms like midwit

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:23:51 2020 No.15043028
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>>15041842
Being a midwit is a paradox, in which if you worry about failure and never achieving anything you're going to fail. But if you accept you're a midwit and slowly start to do shit you're going to succeed. It's all ego holding you back man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:24:52 2020 No.15043036 >>15043028 nice but that's just a cope

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:26:36 2020 No.15043048 >>15043036 >cope your dismissal of anything that doesn't affirm your unearned pessimism is a transparent "cope"

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:27:06 2020 No.15043050 >>15043048 that's a cope man

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:27:06 2020 No.15043052 >>15043036 Might be just a cope, but you never know until you try.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:28:06 2020 No.15043057 >>15043052 cope

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:28:26 2020 No.15043060 >>15043050 cope >>15043057 cope

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:29:32 2020 No.15043067 >>15043060 cope

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:30:10 2020 No.15043071 >>15043060 calling a cope post a cope is the biggest cope

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:45:28 2020 No.15043138

Look for ways to create positive feedback loops while learning. Not that I think the label of "midwit" is useful (or even sound), but I would say its fundamental approach to learning is the accumulation of knowledge. You amass knowledge to sound intelligent, get a degree for professional prospects, to reinforce your self-conception that you are in fact intelligent, whatever. But the knowledge you accumulate is stagnant; rigid within whatever whatever form you learned it because your plan all along was simply to have "a lot" of knowledge so as to fulfill some pre-defined ideal.

True intelligence is when thought is able to act on itself. It is curious, self-critical, pursuing itself not knowing what it will find since its goal is necessarily the unknown, the ever-receding beyond which will never offer a cessation of pursuit. Intelligence builds itself to efface itself; it uses its knowledge to open new avenues to questioning. You learn to ask questions intelligently, to connect with people who know what they're talking about in the fields that make you curious, to be able to understand and utilize the writings of people who had the same questions you do.

I guess in terms of prescription, hide your power level. The essence of midwitdom is gaining smarts to show it off. To paraphrase Baudrillard, intelligence is the double refusal to dominate and to be dominated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:49:50 2020 No.15043158 >>15043138 Good post up until the very end. Baudrillard was a stupid man and his autonomist "don't take power" nonsense in Agony of Power is as stupid as it is impossible.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:52:01 2020 No.15043167 >>15043138 >midwitdom i didn't read this post but midwittery would be a better word

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:52:44 2020 No.15043169 >>15042123 I hate you tedposting ecofascist retards

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:55:29 2020 No.15043191 >>15043158 Does that really take away from the quote itself, though? You can easily use intelligence to gain power, but intelligence itself must involve some renunciation of power in its openness to learn.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 17:35:55 2020 No.15043435
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>>15043138
Wrong, its sound and right on a micro level but on macro is still midwitessence

True intelligence is unironically accepting and surrendering to the unknown.
>The Fool
is the archetype of such expression
Letting divine nature lead instead of imposing and accumulating the false self.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 17:40:10 2020 No.15043464 >>15043435 KYS

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 17:44:56 2020 No.15043499 >>15043435 their power levels aren't high enough yet. u gotta lead them with a little midwitquity first. all too easy to confuse unknowability with ignorance, isn't it? maybe my hint that the beyond always recedes to another beyond wasn't enough

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 18:01:47 2020 No.15043623

i read and learn a bunch of shit from various fields, but i can never seem to find avenues in life where i can apply it. like i seem to know a lot of shit, but i don't find anywhere i'm able to apply it. like these ideas just dance in my head and stay there. am i a midwit?

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 19:24:11 2020 No.15044206
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>>15041842
Same OP, but my fear comes from the feeling that I need to justify my existence. I read books looking for something that will irrefutably state that it's okay for me to be merely alive. Everyday I awake and consider who I may come across that will point out the error of my being to which I will have to readily respond or perish. I remember failing an exam in college and j consider what that really implies; I thought of myself in a situation needing rescue and I couldn't picture my lecturer even paying me mind if he were the only one to help. I feel myself withering away bit by bit everyday because of this.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 21:27:31 2020 No.15045045

>>15043191

No, that doesn't follow at all. I think what you're really doing is projecting a certain weak* personality trait onto intelligence as a necessary consequence of it, a personality trait which may certainly be held by some intelligent people, but obviously not all of them and consequently not necessarily so. As an extreme example, I can easily imagine a very intelligent masochist. Intelligent people tend to seek out novel experiences, but again these needn't be exercises in giving up power, which has very obvious negative effects. The novel experiences can just as easily be exercises in taking it.

I understand that you're not referring directly to Dunning-Kruger, smart people who have a better awareness of their ignorance on many subjects and related ideas, but I think it's useful and valid to conflate these ideas with the "smart people reject power" canard, at least as related ideas, exactly because they are distinct from each other.

*I really don't mean to use the word "weak" as some sort of ad-hom, but rather in the objective sense. It is objectively not a good idea to give up power if one doesn't have to, in most situations.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 21:55:12 2020 No.15045184 Midwits read less good books.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 21:58:27 2020 No.15045196 >>15042980 You are wrong

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 22:17:12 2020 No.15045299 >>15042096 lol, do people really worry about how intelligent they arecompared to others? that doesn't make you dumb or smart, it just makes you a normalfag. you're like that try-hard chick in high school who cries when she gets a B+.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 22:18:52 2020 No.15045312 >>15043071 cope

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 22:20:26 2020 No.15045319 >>15041842 you're only a midwit if you say you are, who the fuck cares what other people think about your intellectual pursuits (or lack thereof) anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 22:29:58 2020 No.15045368 >>15042096 jfc this is a personal attack being a 130 IQ schizo is truly suffering

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 22:40:01 2020 No.15045414 File: 103 KB, 1306x926, RAW.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15041842 >ahh, if only there was a way to change myself. alas...

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 00:17:26 2020 No.15045895 >>15043138 based post

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 04:50:33 2020 No.15046914 >>15045319 >you're only a midwit if you say you are Plenty of midwits dont know it

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 05:24:36 2020 No.15047000

>>15041842
Think of it like this, if you are a "midwit" (however you define this thing) I assume by your definition you would be doomed so to say and that it'd be deterministic and thus inescapable, there'd be little point in giving it much thought in such a case. In such a way, if you think that genetics determines a consciousness' intelligence, whatever exactly that is - I wouldn't be one to tell you exactly, there'd be little point in "struggling against the chains" so to say, in the same way one couldn't grow a foot in height, nor increase penis size or whatever thing people attribute to the cold and indifferent roll of the dice of genetic probability.

In short, either you're not a "midwit" and thus worrying about it is of no concern, or you are a midwit and the same is true. Besides, you only ever witness your own wisdom up close and it's the only intellect you'll ever truly experience.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 05:26:50 2020 No.15047007 Fuck's a midwit?

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 05:52:31 2020 No.15047087

>>15041842
Genuinely smart people don't typically care or stress about whether they are smart because they're too busy actually being smart and enjoying the benefits of being smart. If you spend a significant amount of time worrying about whether you are smart, you are probably not smart.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 05:54:07 2020 No.15047093 >>15042026 Wrong. I know so many people who are good at maths but can't read.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:02:35 2020 No.15047127 >>15042096 >Hurr durr the reason im a lazy retard is because of my intelligence, not because im a lazy retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:07:39 2020 No.15047144 >>15043052 >>15043057 >>15043060 >>15043067 >>15043071 Is there a good synonim for cope? I literally don't have that word in my language

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:09:47 2020 No.15047151 >>15043138 Cope

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:13:56 2020 No.15047164 >>15045319 >who the fuck cares what other people think about your intellectual pursuits (or lack thereof) anon Your parents Any potential partner past the age of around 26/ 27 years old Your friends and peers … What a stupid post

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:18:53 2020 No.15047177 >>15042912 Are they professors or just students?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:36:54 2020 No.15047252 >>15041842 Intelligence is overrated. I'd rather be a functional retard than a genius.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:41:47 2020 No.15047275 >>15041842 >asking others to tell you >listening to any bandwagon instead of coming to the conclusion by yourself (the conclusion can be the same as some bandwagon's, mind you) I'm sorry, you've already failed

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:43:25 2020 No.15047282 File: 28 KB, 410x461, 67a86f04a706bf46f6d60b0fa89e566e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15047127 My post hit too close to home?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:52:58 2020 No.15047325 >>15047093 Most people I know that are really good at math are complete fucking retards in every other facet of life.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 07:50:22 2020 No.15047587 >>15041842 >>15042632 ANSWER THE QUESTION WHAT IS HE THINKING ABOUT

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 08:37:32 2020 No.15047726

>>15042071
This. I'm a math major and I go to my uni math club and the guy who's best at math is the most soicucked "I fucking love math" guy I've ever encountered. He's said things like "philosophy is stupid and done by idiots" and hes a vegetarian who wants to be vegan so I quipped "I'll keep my testosterone" and he unflinchingly replies: "testosterone is overrated, why would you even want high testosterone" and mentioned "toxic masculinity". I tried to explain idealism and he just did not get it, and when I talk about other "big picture" things it's like talking to a wall.

These types of people are so specialized and granular in their thinking that they are utterly incapable of seeing the forest from the trees. Most mathfags are incapable of philosophizing, and only those few capable of both philosophical thinking and granular mathematical thinking are capable of profound insights. These are the true topwits.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 08:57:57 2020 No.15047789 >>15047127 laziness is just as inherent as intelligence

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 12:20:33 2020 No.15049148 >>15047789 No its not

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