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15032534 No.15032534 [Reply] [Original]

what does /lit/ do to pay the bills?

>> No.15032559

>>15032534
just enough to live. Spend all their free time reading and studying. The pursuit of wealth is over rated.

>> No.15032564

>>15032534

Translate shitty novels

>> No.15032580

>>15032534
got born into a rich family and included in some wills. That's enough to pay my bills now and probably through to the end of this decade given how much I spend. When my parents die I might be set for life. I also make a bit of money editing theses and dissertations and I've sold two articles so far this year.

>> No.15032590

I am a security guard in a parking lot

>> No.15032612

>>15032580
>I also make a bit of money editing theses and dissertations and I've sold two articles so far this year.
how did you get started with this?

>> No.15032621

>>15032564
there's money in that?

>> No.15032649

>>15032621

About 100k a year if you fill out the time with industrial manuals and whatnot

>> No.15032664

>>15032590
Most /lit/ job desu

>> No.15032665

>>15032612
Well I started by going to a university and letting it be known to my ESL peers that I can into writing and might edit papers for them. Most of course are too poor to offer much, but I got a few jobs from people in the department and more via word of mouth. Now that I moved away the word of mouth kind of stopped spreading but some professors still refer students and scholars with good research but poor writing skills. I've also gotten some gigs via Scribbd.

Selling articles has been much harder, and if I weren't a richfag I'd have given up on being a writer long ago. I am only really now learning how important it is to pitch. I would just write about something I found interested then tell websites, journals and magazines that I had done so. It doesn't work that way, you have to pitch in advance to get anything.

>> No.15032667

>>15032649
which lang do you translate from?

>> No.15032675

>>15032559
>The pursuit of wealth is over rated
depends on your desires.

>> No.15032684

>>15032580
you got born into a rich family and still haven't got a book out?

>> No.15032696

>>15032667
EN DA NO

>> No.15032742

Joined the police out of a mixture of moral compulsion and desire to experience 'real life'. It's soul crushing, though. Two years in, I'm increasingly aware that the serious crimes are largely perpetrated by criminals against other criminals, which hugely affects motivation to investigate them. Hours upon hours spent on paperwork and compiling monstrous case files for the most simple of crimes only for the court result to be laughably lenient. Besides which I have an overwhelming sensation of empathy fatigue and a feeling of 'who cares?' even when thinking about serious crimes, which excited me once upon a time. I'm increasingly aware that evil really is just the privation of good, banal and mundane, and the excessive accountability of the police renders the investigation process paint-by-numbers and dull.

I thought about breaking into an intelligence analyst type role since I'm out my probation now, but if I'm going to commit myself to a career of drudgery, politics and paperwork I may as well go and do an MA and. PhD and base it around something I'm passionate about. Seriously on the verge of resigning and trying to go for academia.

>> No.15032779

>>15032742
This is so fascinating. I hope you've considered writing (at least magazine articles), anon. You have unique real life experiences and the literary background to produce something unique.

>> No.15032781

>>15032742
when you take The Wire too seriously

>> No.15032782

>>15032664
One day might make a good novel no one would read.

>> No.15032808

>>15032684
I still have plenty of time. Lots of people write their first novel in their late twenties, r-right?

>> No.15032813

>>15032781
Kek

>> No.15032819

>>15032534
Studying to become a lawyer

>> No.15032834

>>15032779
Thank you, anon. I do try to write in my spare time.

>> No.15032836

>>15032559
Based. Just can't take that leap, though.

>> No.15032850

I teach music to rich chinese and korean kids

>> No.15032875

>>15032534
Marketing

Both my parents are lawyers. I didn't have much interest in law and wanted to be my own man rather than being given a job by my dad or whatever, sometimes I really regret not having just taken the easy path and become a lawyer, got a cushy job from daddy and made bank.

>> No.15032901

>>15032875
you dont enjoy marketing?

>> No.15032904

>>15032534
Still in school. My dream job that probably doesn't exist anymore, though, is to tutor wealthy children in Greek, Latin, and general humanities.

>> No.15032963

went from history BA to tech marketing and sales director

its good, I get to research and write to tell stories about how our AI is taking over the world to shill and I get good bonuses when I close deals

its b2b so I don't deal with plebs, now I only sell to government agencies

been writing a novel in spare time

>> No.15032967

>>15032534
I clean up financial data (reduce survivorship bias etc.). Studied econ, stat and some CS in college.

>> No.15032979

>>15032904
woah same bro. anyone know if this actually exists still?

>> No.15033023

Budget Analyst. It could be worse but it still makes me want to kill myself to be honest.

>> No.15033031

>>15032875
Why don’t you just go to law school?

>> No.15033039

>>15033023
did you go to college?

>> No.15033058

>>15033039
Yes. I have a bachelor’s degree.

>> No.15033076

Digital artist working on commissions. I earn enough, I wouldn't be able to do it if I didn't have a following of 60k+ online. Not a lot I know, but enough to keep demand in.

>> No.15033086

I'm a high school teacher. Living from paycheck to paycheck, but /lit/

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15033111

Soldier
Being a phil major in college I always wanted to write something of my own, but I've no idea where to start, and the idea of both publishing and not publishing is daunting.
>>15032742
I'm a SIGINT analyst in the army, any questions you have? The army fucking sucks, but it's the easiest way by far to get your foot in the door, especially if you're like my buddy who got a two year contract.
>>15033023
>It could be worse but it still makes me want to kill myself
same

>> No.15033118

>>15033076
So, what kind of porn do you make?

>> No.15033135

>>15033118
no porn, for the record, I cannot draw a pair of boobs to save my life.

>> No.15033161

>>15032534
sex work and wellfare

>> No.15033202

>>15033135
Good. Porn draws others down to the pit of carnal lust and mediocrity. Pornographers should be stoned.

>> No.15033232

>>15033076
what do you design for? tshirts and things like that?

>> No.15033245

>>15033232
Mostly. It is most often little brands who want a t-shirt design. It is also a constant battle between not wanting to do work I don't truly believe in but also needing to pay rent, so there's that.

>> No.15033248

>>15032534
Project Manager.

>> No.15033251

>>15032559
so what do you do?

>> No.15033262

>>15032559
The brainlet retard cope who has rich family to fall back on. You make more on welfare than you do by "dude just work enough to survive than do what you want".

>> No.15033269

>>15032534
Psychiatrist

>> No.15033271

>>15032901
It's okay

I kind of figured I'd do it and get some cash for a while so I could figure out where I wanted to go. Five years down the line and I don't feel I've accomplished very much

>>15033031
Currently living abroad, if I moved back home I'd consider becoming a barrister, but I don't think I'm ready to move back out there yet.

I think I'd also feel like a failure for going down a road I thought was a cop-out when I had the opportunity

>> No.15033277

>>15033245
I've a shopify store of tshirts, so I'll be interested in looking at your work if you're comfortable sharing your social media handle here.

>> No.15033355

>>15032534
Done a lot of different jobs, usually in the arts. Worked as a roadie for rock bands, started my own biz for a while. Sold it, used the money to buy a house, which is way cheaper than renting but can be a pain in the ass in other ways...

>> No.15033386

housewife.

>> No.15033440

>>15033386
unironically?

>> No.15033445

>>15033355
>started my own biz for a while
what did you do
why did you sell it

>> No.15033481

>>15033440
yes. husband is a lawyer.

>> No.15033653

>>15033481
how do you survive here with all the misogyny?

>> No.15033678

>>15033111
Is the role of an intelligence analyst synonymous with that of an intelligence officer? Is analysis primarily collating and reporting sensitive information? Do you get the impression it's mentally stimulating?

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>>15032534

>> No.15033717

>>15033262
This. Why the fuck would you work?

>> No.15033721

>>15033653
i can't blame people for being misogynistic for the way that women without a firm husband act.

>> No.15033723

>>15033355
>started my own biz
Codewode for already having money.

>> No.15033770

>>15033721
t. 'housewife' with a dick confirmed

>> No.15033779

>>15033770
i'm just a tradcath dude

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>>15033678
>Is the role of an intelligence analyst synonymous with that of an intelligence officer
There are analysts that are called "officers" as a matter of tradition, otherwise no. Officers are like corporate middle managers in that they provide direction and oversight, while analysts, be they enlistedmen, contractors, or government employees, do the dirty work of reading, writing, and drafting slide decks.
>Is analysis primarily collating and reporting sensitive information
Yes
>Do you get the impression it's mentally stimulating?
There are so many things you can do in my job it's hard to touch generalize like that. Anything from a cushy 9-5 at NSA to jumping out of planes and guiding a ranger assault force to shoot a high value target in the face. As for what I'm doing right now? Not really, but I found that I'm more interested in the latter type of work. Ask me in another year, and another year after that, and you'd get two more answers.

>> No.15034146

Wine Professional

Wine is very interesting but being in the service industry is like getting your soul curb-stomped. So it's great if you're a masochistic lackey which, for better or worse, I'm not. The real paths for advancement are becoming a sommelier or a wine director and I'm pretty uninterested in both. Or I could go make wine. Undeniably /lit/ but then you gotta live like a straight up peasant.

>> No.15034158

I write for a trade magazine. It’s a worthless occupation and, honestly, I wish I could just pick fruit to pay the bills. Has improved my writing skill though.

>> No.15034265

>>15032967
Would you recommend studying Econ and CS together? Does it really open extra doors, or should one just concentrate on CS?

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15034286

Law clerk waiting on bar exam results. I research legal theories my boss comes up with, make templates of forms, write the first draft of appeals and motions, etc.

>> No.15034404

I still live with my parents, never had a job. I'm 28.

>> No.15034410

>>15032534
I'm in med school, trying to be a neurologist

>> No.15034412

>>15032696
.... Nath? You don't read books.

>> No.15034456

>>15034410
/lit/ as fuck. Ever read Oliver Oliver Sacks?

>> No.15034472

>>15034410
Neurologist has a shit lifestyle vs a psychiatrist. If you're intelligent, go for neurosurgery. Otherwise psychiatrist.

>> No.15034477

>>15034456
>Oliver Oliver Sacks
no, but I will add him to my list of author's to read, thanks anon! I've mostly read medical short stories and Arrowsmith.

>> No.15034500

>>15034472
>Being a clinical physician is a shit lifestyle compared to the hardest to get into speciality where you do several hour long surgeries.

Nah, I'm good. We have a joke in the medical field: Where do you hide something from a neurosurgeon? On his kids forehead.

But yeah, neuro and psyc are fun, I'm more passionate about neuro though.

>> No.15034502

>>15032580
The single most /lit/ way to live

>> No.15034514

>>15034404
At least you have loving parents. My parents were very cruel after I got out of college. I would trade all my material and career just for them to have been nice to me after I got out. Instead, they were rude, doubted me and made me life hell, hardly bought be food, and now they pretend to be my friend now that I'm doing well again.

>> No.15034521

>>15034502
>born rich
>/lit/
Pick one. The best authors and thinkers struggled.

>> No.15034525

>>15032534
Hartz 4

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15034573

In school for wildlife science. Currently trying to get work in Antarctica as a field tech. Probably won't get it this year but once I've got my degree it odds should be better.

>> No.15034582

>>15034573
You don't need to go to Antarctica.

>> No.15034587

>>15034477
Oops I meant Oliver Sacks (obviously). Anyway cool, I'd recommend Awakenings, The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat or An Anthropologist on Mars to get your first impression. Sacks was based as fuck, he turned science into poetry. I don't know if you've heard of A. R. Luria yet but he was impressed with his work, too. Very high chance you'll love his shit in your circumstances.

>> No.15034589

>>15034573
That's awesome anon! What organism or part of an organism is that in your picture?

>> No.15034599

>>15034587
The man who mistook his wife for a hat is one of the books that got me interested in neuro! That and the phineas cage case. Based taste anon, thanks for all the sweet recs!

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>>15032534
architecture student on scholarship, so there arent that many bills.

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>>15033076
What do you think about loomis?

>> No.15034626

>>15034615
Based coin company. Great place to pocket silver and switch out for clad. You can get ikes to. Had a whole bath tub of them at one point.

>> No.15034629

>>15034626
No, I mean the drawing books

>> No.15034646

>>15032742
Mate you joined the police out of 'moral compulsion' LMAO? That's like saying I joined La Cosa Nostra to help the community. The police is just a gang representing the interests of the state. They're a net negative to society. All you do is go around arresting people for smoking a plant and trying mind-opening drugs like LSD because you know that people will see through the governments' lies once they start taking them. You're just muscle for Uncle Sam.

>> No.15034650

>>15034629
I meant the money exchange company that drops coins off to businesses and banks.

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>>15034615

>> No.15034684

>>15034582
Don't tell me what to do, Shoggoth
>>15034589
Bamboo Shark eggs. The girl that laid this one actually had an egg successfully undergo parthenogenesis that's now her tank mate.

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15034692

Step 1. Receive welfare for anxiety and depression.
Step 2. Read/Write/exercise/shitpost/drink all day.

>> No.15034711

>>15033076
Freelance? How long did it take you to charge money for commissions?

>> No.15034735

>>15034692
You forgot step 1 and 2.

1. File back taxes for the past 5 years and claim an income of 150k+ each year and then don't pay it
2. declare bankruptcy

That's what Berkely told me. He said that's how you get the maximum SSDI amount of $3040/month. I'm not doing it because it's illegal and I want to work still

>> No.15034752

>>15034684
Yoooo that's super cool anon! Hope you can go to Antarctica soon!

>> No.15034828

>>15034646
Yeah I remember when I was a teenager.

>> No.15034833

>>15034752
He doesn't need to go there.

>> No.15034840

>>15034833
Okay, what's your point?

>> No.15034846

>>15034573
Good choice anon. I wanted to do wildlife science after dropping out of biology but I didn’t and wish I did.

>> No.15034848

>>15034840
Stay out of Antarctica is my point.

>> No.15034851

>>15034848
for what reason?

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>>15034848
What's in Antarctica?

>> No.15034865

Software Engineer

>> No.15034902

>>15034146
as if living like a peasant is bad

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>>15032534
Unemployed, but I'm looking for work right now. I graduated last year with a degree in Computer Information Systems, but went back to another CUNY school for Computer Science. I forgot how much I hated the "commute to class" lifestyle and I became seriously depressed this year. I dropped out in March right before coronavirus hit because I just wanted to work and not be around 18 year olds as a 22 year old anymore. However, I learned I hate IT support type work in my previous internship, so I'm trying to get literally any job besides that (and sales). Insurance underwriter, claims, any sort of analyst, or Health IT would be my ideal jobs, but obviously everything is fucked right now and I'd be elated to get anything instead of sending job apps into the void. Fuck CIS, I should've majored in Accounting. At least I'd have a stable job right now. Anyway, I'm just a loser.

>> No.15034947

>>15034851
You don't need to go there. End of story.

>> No.15034968

>>15034857
Nothing.

>> No.15035116

Part-time retail. It's shit work, shit money, but i have no skills/connections and can't be fucked to work full time so i'm stuck. My options are basically factory work, call centre work or this, and this seems the most cushy.

>> No.15035130

>>15032534
essentially the same as pessoa
i want to kill myself every single day

>> No.15035139

Corporate Strategy

They'll come to your uni and tell you it's mentally stimulating work. It's not. Your coworkers will be clever but not intellectually curious.

Unfortunately still seems better than all the alternatives though

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>>15034857

>> No.15035146

>>15035139
I mean what wagie work is mentally stimulating? It all becomes routine. Roles are too specialized to be mentally stimulating in like 90% of cases

>> No.15035155

>>15035146
Exactly. If I'm going to hate it regardless, I'd rather be wealthy than poor

Still, the idealist in me can't stop believing there must be some way out

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15035162

I'm a copywriter at a marketing agency. The money's good when it's there, but oftentimes it isn't.

>> No.15035169

>>15035116
You're just retarded. You would make more on SSI or SSDI than you make working part time retail and wouldn't need to work at all. You also would receive food stamps ($250 a month) and free zero deductible medicaid.

>> No.15035204

A mix of welfare, food industry stuff and tutoring, as well as mooching off my gf and family. It's honestly great, anon.

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>>15035169
I'm not american. I went the welfare route, and i got about a 1/3 i do now and it basically became a full-time job with them sending you on schemes to essentially do free labour full-time, having to go to the job centre everyday ect. Trust me i'd be on bennies the second i could, but working 20 hours a week is the next best option.

>> No.15035235

>>15035169
ssi is limited at 733 a month or something like that (inflation increase since I quit working in the industry, probably something like 755 or somethign now) minus what you are making from working.

>> No.15035236

I'm going to college for English and a few minors but honestly have no plans for the future. I'm bilingual in Spanish and might go on into grad school so maybe tutoring would be good? I'm also really close with some of the film students in my school.
>>15035204
I'm honestly leeching from my gf and HER family as well. She does tattoo worker so sometimes the money is great

>> No.15035243

>>15035225
Bb-b-benny and the jets.

>> No.15035251

>>15035162
>imagine how comfy this would be in the summer
Sure, winter is hellish and hard work - but i feel it's just the price of admission

>> No.15035257

>>15033135
>60+ following and not doing porn
I am genuinely impressed and wish you the very best.

>> No.15035273

>>15034865
how is it?

>> No.15035278

I’m gonna be a boxer

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15035279

How do i get better at interviews? I'm enough of a sperg as it is, but i can't fake all the stupid enthusiasm for a wagie position even if i know it's just a performance (and they do as well). I'm too socially in competent.

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15035293

In training to be a psychotherapist. Did a philosophy MA and figured it was useless unless I could actually transition into a human centred field. Considering I have the social skills and decent theoretical background, it made sense to me (after failing at being a filmmaker for a year).

I find it stimulating and still very /lit/ considering people like Jung, Victor Frankl, Irvin Yalom are valid literary heroes of mine.

>> No.15035306

>>15032534
Finished my maths PhD

Now sucking dick and coping to get a position in 10000 years

>> No.15035314

>>15035162
Can I ask how much you make in a good period of time as opposed to a bad period?

>> No.15035326

>>15035279
Read the Harvard Business Review for articles on interviewing, and search Hacker News too.
Practice, practice, practice, too. Consider joining Toastmasters.

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>>15032534
I go to harvard but dk what to do. I don't wanna do banking but it feels like safe way

>> No.15035376

>>15035366
t. pseud neurotic midwit that is going to fizzle out in undergrad.

>> No.15035386

>>15035366
what do you concentrate in anon

try trading at a fund anon, if you fuck up and suck at it, you can always get into consulting or banking later

of course the true answer is don't be a pleb and get headhunded into a PhD program, but that's up there with anyone on this website finishing that novel they've been working on

>> No.15035392

>>15035386
If he's an undergrad at a top tier institution that means he is a midwit.

>> No.15035393

>>15035279
Go work in a field where you don’t have to wear the corporate mask.

>> No.15035402

>>15035366
That’s what I did. I completely regret it.

>> No.15035404

>>15034412

English Danish Norwegian, I bulk read. Read one book over the past 6 months, and it was a shitty one (Cherry), but I went through 12 novels in 3 months before that.

>> No.15035411

>>15035386
applied math, but i don't feel like i'm naturally talented for it
>try trading at a fund
i just don't want to become soulless bugman/company man and as far as i understood PhD is literally modern slavery

>>15035376
>>15035392
what makes you say that?

>>15035402
Why? What would you do differently, any tips?

>> No.15035418

Anyone else feel depressed as fuck reading these answers? Someone is in Harvard and I'm here with my neet, smegma covered dick doing nothing.

>> No.15035429

>>15035392
Massive cope

Everywhere is infested with midwits. At least the top unis give certain students enough of an inferiority complex to push them to actually study material on their own

>> No.15035445

>>15032742
this is copypasta.

>> No.15035454

>>15035411
Lol applied math. The pre-professional degree for people who can't stand the mediocrity in the Harvard ec department

You don't want to be a soulless bugman but you're considering banking? At least the traders have time off.

Have you taken any electives in the humanities? I hated myself for the second half of college for not having the foresight to take Hum 10 as a freshman

>> No.15035500

>>15035454
what would you have done if you took that?

>> No.15035510

>>15035454

i'm considering banking out of sheer economic necessity
>Have you taken any electives in the humanities?
I read a lot on my own so no, i take Chinese lessons tho. What would you recommend? Why Hum 10?

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>>15032559
>enough to live
Harder than you think in America these days.

>> No.15035556

>>15035141
based

>> No.15035572

>>15035411
>Why?
It’s an immoral industry that works you like a mule and destroys every aspect of your life outside of work.

> What would you do differently, any tips?
I wouldn’t go into banking. Yeah. Don’t go into banking.

>> No.15035579

>>15032782
At least would make something great

>> No.15035588

>>15035572
so what to do in order to earn enough money to fuck off and pay my parents a trip to Caribbean? Start my own company?!

>> No.15035596

>>15035314
My best week so far: $1,300
My worst week so far: this week lol
We just lost a client to corona-related budget cuts, so I imagine I'll make less than $300 this week, but God provides. Is it a field your interested in?

>> No.15035610

Earn Neetbux from my time in the military. Live comfortable with a family and leisure. Own rental property too.

>> No.15035611

>>15035588
I don’t know. You tell me. Why are you in college anyway? Do whatever you want but it’s not like banking is the only industry in the world and I wouldn’t recommend it.

>> No.15035631

>>15035236
Don't be a dumb fuck. An English major isn't worth shit now or EVER. Get a quantitive degree (Math, Stats, CS) or something that leads directly to stable employment e.g. Accounting, Nursing, Finance, Engineering. Reading books all day is just a hobby, don't study it and don't go to grad school for it. You need to measure your ROI for college majors in 2020, anon. Going to school for intellectual stimulation is a meme unless you're rich and can get a decent paying job otherwise. For us proles, get a real job and read on the side.

>> No.15035642

>>15035611

>Why are you in college anyway?

1. I was disaffected with my life home so decided to make radical move and go study abroad

2. Earn a lot of money and make some change in the world or at least my country or if i fail just earn a lot of money so i can read Tolstoy in peace

> it’s not like banking is the only industry in the world

that's why I emphasized safe way to earn money

>> No.15035655

>>15034521
counterpoint: Dazai

>> No.15035657

Im an accountant. Please kill me.

>> No.15035660

>>15035418
Like it fucking matters dude. If you're going to compare yourself to everyone who ever lived of course you won't measure up. And these sorts of things are all relative. You may be upset that you didn't go to some top school, but an African tribal man is perfectly happy fucking his eight wives and teaching his sons to hunt. It's all relative man, and you have to find something that makes you happy instead of basing your happiness by comparing yourself to others.

>> No.15035671

>>15035500
Ideally have met more kids in college who were interested in literature. Also wouldn't have had to play catch-up later on with a good chunk of the western canon

>>15035510
Harvard has too many unnecessarily specific, easy electives that everyone took to boost their GPA instead of taking the harder, foundational survey courses (Hum 10, Social Studies 10, certain specific courses in the gov / phil depts, as examples). I don't blame any of the students, but the end result is you get a really shitty education if you're not careful.

What are you interested in anon? I can give course recommendations, but I don't think they're useful without context. Also, which year and house are you?

and which final club are you in

You realize there are other jobs that pay well aside from banking? It sounds uniquely soul-sucking. Consulting and F500 leadership development roles are sole sucking as well, but at least you'll have weekends off

>> No.15035679

>>15033202
A lot of them probably are

>> No.15035731

>>15035660
This is how the midwit thinks. Of course it matters.

>> No.15035757

>>15035671
>which year and house are you?

i forgot to say i'm freshman but intend to major in applied math. Been thinking about where my moves in college may take me

>What are you interested in anon?

my favorite writers are McCarthy, Tolstoy and Pekic, favorite filmmakers Kubrick, Kurosawa, Tarkovsky and Sergio Leone. If this tells you anything about my personality. For a long time I wanted to be a filmmaker but decided to bail out considering the state of the industry and that i'm poor as fuck. Still want to create something of my own and do some change and value my freedom at least in the long run. I realize this may be pipe dream. Please suggest some courses

>> No.15035774

>>15032559
>>15035544
What is your job, anyways?

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>>15034927
I was in your same position, moved to marketing because I couldn't stand working the help desk anymore. Now I just graduated and am looking absolutely zero job opportunities here in the midwest. You'll be fine, IT still seems to be hiring quite a bit

>> No.15035823

>>15035631
is it true that cs fucks up your brain?

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>>15035814
How come I never see this image shooped

>> No.15035842

Freight train engineer

>> No.15035864

>>15035757
>>15035671
also, I have Napoleonic power fantasy

>> No.15035882

>>15032534
Code monkey hoping to get a phd and do more security clearance tier shit.

>> No.15035892

>>15035823
what? Why would it? Computer science is just applied math. A software engineering job is writing code, reading code, research, configuring tools, critical thinking, pair programming, working on a team. It's more demanding than the average office job, sure, but it isn't say PhD levels of math. Not to mention that the hardest class you may take is Calc3, something all engineering majors have to take. So, my answer to your question is, no.

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>>15035757
>Pekic
Do my eyes deceive me?

>> No.15035915

living at home working part time while going to CC. I will have an AA after this semester. I got accepted to a college I could commute to 30 minutes away but I still haven't accepted it. I fucking hate college, I am very unprepared for my major (CS), and overall I just want to die. My parents are brainlets who don't understand how to education system works as they didn't really go to college. I have no skills, talents, or interests. I only chose CS because I'm a PC gamer. What the fuck do I do? I just want enough money in life to be a hermit and never leave my little cave. I would buy a shotgun and kill myself but all the gun ships are closed.

>> No.15035927

>>15035892
https://www.quora.com/Why-are-programmers-usually-so-rude
my experience relates to the first answer

>> No.15035933

>>15035915
Become a priest like the rest of us.

>> No.15035938

>>15032819
based

>> No.15035941

I'm only an undergrad majoring in English but the more and more I think about it I want to work a job in some kinda charity or just helping people really directly. Professorship would be nice but working for/running a food bank or soup kitchen would be easier and maybe more fulfilling. Wouldn't ever get hung up on studying/teaching Literature which is licherally useless.

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>>15035906

Based. Don't know how lit did not discover him. Are you Serbian?

>> No.15035952

>>15032534
Senior assistant in a library. Comfy job and pays pretty well, and my clients are all incredibly friendly to me (even the homeless and crazies are tolerable). But as a career it fucking sucks, because of the insane amount of cuts over the last decade they've dissolved the librarian position in all my local branches apart from the children's librarian, so there is literally zero chance of career progression. I'm hoping I can make the jump to either academic services or get a job in an archive, and get to spend my time handling ancient manuscripts, would be /lit/ as fuck. I have a BA in English Lit but if I have to go back to study a masters in archive sciences, so be it. Also hoping to get something published, one day...

>> No.15035986

>>15035927
>https://www.quora.com/Why-are-programmers-usually-so-rude

Programmers are largely socially awkward dorks. Anyone with any social grace would know to lie to assuage your superior's fears, but programmers don't know how to play the office game. They say whatever is on their minds. So no, it doesn't break your brain, CS just attracts a lot of socially inept nerds who were already rude.

>> No.15035987

>>15035757
Majoring in applied math isn't a bad idea. Taleb has a good approach to college: get a degree that makes you marketable but then maximize your electives to study what you're actually interested in. Do not be afraid to use the Pass/Fail system to make your life easier. No employer will care if you P/F a few classes, but they will care about your GPA (which will likely be higher). I regret not taking advantage of this. You shouldn't ever be "worried" about a semester. If you are, you're stretching yourself too thin. Find a way to do less, be ruthless. If you do pre-professional activities literally put in 0 effort, you're doing it for a resume boost, not to help HFAC or HCCG or whatever.

It sounds like you'd benefit from some legitimate survey courses to help you better develop a set of specific academic interests.

I fell in love with political philosophy in college, so I'm partial to the gov 1060 and 1061 sequence, but I don't know to what extent I'd recommend it if old man Mansfield isn't still teaching it. It will give you a good grounding in the foundational works of political theory. Every book in that course when I took it was something that I would've needed to read eventually. If you're not interested in philosophy YMMV.

I did not take social studies 10 but I wish I had. Take that for what it's worth. You likely will not get top marks in it, but as long as you're doing well in your other courses it will be fine.

I'd caution you away from most intro courses that aren't centered around reading full, difficult works. Ec 10 is a waste of time, as is Gov 10/20. For example, you can just start in 1010/1011 unless you have literally no acquaintance with economic theory. Often times it's better to take the harder course and offset it with easier electives than to waste time taking unnecessary "preliminary" courses. The dirty secret at Harvard is the higher-level courses are often more interesting and thus easier to dedicate time to than the introductory courses, where you have to do a lot of bullshit to differentiate yourself from the other students. The only introductory courses I can seriously recommend are either technical courses that you need to take as a pre-req or humanities survey courses focused around reading whole, great books. Don't take CS50.

Jill Lepore was the best lecturer I ever had. Her politics are debatable but she made American history fascinating and memorable.

Don't be afraid to cold-email professors. I reached out to a few in college whose books I had read and went to their office hours to talk with them. That was often more valuable than courses, because they knew all I wanted from them was to understand their ideas. Don't think that you need to take someone's class to meet them.

>> No.15036025

Infosec engineer at one of the Big 4. Easy money, great career opportunities, fully remote. I finish work every day at 3:30 and then take an hour or two to write my book before the wife gets home.

>> No.15036028

>>15035944
You bet. Read four of his books last year and enjoyed them quite a bit. A shame he's so rarely mentioned on here.

>> No.15036051

>>15035987
Thanks for the thorough information anon. I will def check these courses. Few questions.
Are social sciences full of hippes/sjws or are there reasonable discussions? I had to hide my opinion more than once.

Any recommended readings while I’m in quarantine to complete some of these courses? Currently I’m reading the Bible and History of Western Philosophy by Bertrand Russell

>> No.15036084

>>15035987
The TL;DR of this is:
>take legitimate survey courses that actually have you read books worth reading
>take easy electives that boost your GPA / use P/F to compensate for harder courses
>don't stretch yourself too thin, extracurriculars are stupid as fuck unless it's fun (HFAC or HCCG != fun)

The last thing I'll say is that a lot of harvard kids convince themselves they're taking incredibly hard courses because "it's harvard" and some asshole from Exeter is sleeping through the course with all As. None of the undergraduate courses are overwhelming difficult imo, it's just that undergrads don't allocate enough time (often by orders of magnitude) to the courses that require it. Everyone thinks Stat 110 is impossible, but there's thousands of kids all across the country who manage to learn probability theory every year, and Kolmogorov's axioms don't change from college to college. I wish I would've takenit to heart more that the course I'm taking isn't that difficult, I'm just being bad at time management and haven't allocated enough hours to reviewing the material / doing practice problems / asking the professor or TF for clarification / getting enough sleep. The solution is almost always never to sleep less, it's to drop other commitments.

>sincerely a recent grad who got a lot out of the school, but still has regrets about what he didn't do

fwiw I was also broke as fuck in college, had to learn how to "play the game" through trial and error

>> No.15036177

>>15034573
Wouldn't mind doing something like this, is the field potent?

>> No.15036191

>>15036084
ss’d this, thank you

>>15036028
Wonder how many of us browse lit. What did you read?

>> No.15036197

>>15032534
I'm a cad draftsman, it's incredibly dull. also, I still have to work despite the the essential business only shut down, because we made something for the air force a year or so ago, which makes us a military contractor.

>> No.15036220

>>15035642
You sound like me when I was in your shoes. If you have any specific questions I’ll be completely honest with you. You could do worse than a short stint in banking all things considered but my experience was such that I would strongly dissuade anyone with a shred of integrity, morals, or personality beyond workaholism.

>> No.15036241

>>15035915
So why are you doing something you are unprepared for, hate, and which no one actually needs you to do?

>> No.15036252

>>15035987
I’ve seen Taleb recommend studying something that was true 30 years ago and will be true 30 years from now (logic, for example) and while I kind of hate college in general, I thought that was decent advice. Getting a degree that makes you marketable sounds quite different and like bad advice to me.

>> No.15036253

>>15036051
In social studies or english departments you'll get a lot of SJWs. People will likely complain about the lack of "diversity" in the canon ... it's just part of the territory. I wouldn't worry about the other students so much as the professor. You should be able to tell from the syllabus whether the person is someone worth learning from. Now that I have friends in top PhD programs, I realize that simply being a college professor is not a good indicator of erudition. You want to make sure you're learning from serious people who you respect and admire. Many professors will teach gimmicky courses with flashy titles: "The politics of the internet: Understanding democracy in the age of facebook, twitter, and tiktok". These are almost always trash. It's not perfect, but a good heuristic is that the material you're reading should be both difficult and old. You should use your early years in college to get a firm intellectual foundation that you can build off of.

As far as things you should read to prepare yourself, for humanities courses it's best to just be well-read in general. Pick things you're interested in. Once you have specific courses in mind, I'd get a head start on the reading itself. If you pick your courses right, the reading should be stimulating. Aggressively seek out and use secondary material, even if the professor tells you not to.

Additionally, just because I got into a few arguments in section with people unnecessarily, don't feel pressure to help any of the other students in your section "get it" if they have some sort of ideological bias against the author or whatever. Your job is to learn the material and learn from the professor. Obviously talk with other students who do the reading, but too many people in these courses think they need to "correct" people who say stupid things in section. It's just unnecessary and will cause problems.

Also, this won't help you in your courses, but based off your background reader Stoner. You might like it.

>> No.15036285

>>15036051
I’m not that guy but I work at a college and I wouldn’t recommend the social sciences. They’re not completely full of hippies but they are rife with politics to the point where I’m pretty convinced that their primary function is indoctrination and propaganda. What’s worse is my experience with social science students is that they’re some of the least educated students on average since the fields are no widely applicable nor evergreen. That’s my genuine opinion.

>> No.15036290

>>15034902
Have you ever lived on a farm? It's romantic until you're bored out of your mind..

>> No.15036303

>>15036252
They're related points

You likely need to signal to survive. Therefore, you should be as direct and efficient with your signaling as possible (study a pre-professional degree that's easy and low-effort).

Then you spend your spare time reading literature and philosophy. Taleb has said before that if he could do college over again he would do the bare minimum to get his degree and spend all his spare time pursuing his intellectual interests.

I don't think there's any contradiction here

>> No.15036309

>>15036220
>>15036084
what are some tips to "play the game"? Any books? I want to build some kind of strategy while in quarantine

>>15036253
once again, thanks

>read Stoner

I ordered it from book depo over a month ago but still not coming

>>15036285
that's what I thought as well

>> No.15036310

Private practice as a clinical psychologist (diagnostics only). Earning 500€ a day is nice but it at times gets unbearingly repetitive and boring. I wish I would have had the guts to become a psychoanalyst instead.

>> No.15036312

Anyone go back to school after fucking it up the first time around?

>> No.15036314

telecommunications
when im busy working i can think, when im not busy i can read. which is quite often.

>> No.15036322

>>15036220
>>15036309
I don’t like “playing the game” nor do I recommend it.

>> No.15036344

>>15035418
if only my daddy was rich amiright.
>>15035655
Dazai was born rich but fucked it all up because he was, rightfully, ashamed of it. Eventually his gibs from home ran out and he lived in poverty afterwards. he even lived off a woman for a while (and was deeply ashamed of it.) He very much struggled.
Dostoevsky: poorfag, great writer, absolutely brilliant.
T*lst*y: delusional richfag completely divorced from reality, wrote like he was delivering a sermon to the plebs and they ought to thank him and lick up his cum. absolute insufferable human garbage and all his works are utter garbage.

we should actually drag the rich out of their homes and shoot them.

>> No.15036429

>>15036309
Imo, it's not so much a specific book, it's a habit of being very focused and specific about what you spend your time doing. Most students have a hesitancy to commit to something and end up lightly committing to everything.

I don't know if you keep a journal, but I'd recommend it if you have trouble making long-term plans or reflecting on the way things are going in-the-moment. Write down what your goals are at the beginning of the semester (gain a foundational grasp of X, Y, and Z, learn from professor A, develop a friend group that likes to do B). Only engage in conflict with people if it seriously jeopardizes one of your goals. Otherwise just let it go and fit in, even if that involves being "dishonest."

For example, at my job I have a career advisor who is not useful to me. Every 6 months I go into his office and ask him questions like I'm interested in his answers. This is because he has sway over my promotion decision. It's not worth it to be "honest." You can see how this might apply to an academic environment as well with your house dean, a professor you have some disagreements with, students you need to get along with, etc. It's just a habit of being ruthlessly honest with yourself about if conflict is really necessary here (often there's an alternative you just don't know about). Don't be afraid to ask people (professors, older students) for advice about how to navigate a seeming-conflict or alternative paths you might be overlooking, but never let them make the decision for you

Best of luck anon. Stay away from Wellesley girls too

>> No.15036444

>>15034711
Yeah, it started very small about 3 years ago. I charged $5 for my first one and slowly doubled my rate but now I just ask what their budget is and if its high enough I'll consider it. People say I don't charge enough but it's hard not knowing when work will come in. Therefore, you end up taking a lot of work you'd rather not sometimes. Sometimes I do just reject it out of stubbornness if the project is not in my interest.

>> No.15036491

>>15036310
do you have a degree?

>> No.15036502

>>15036312
I majored in mathematics during undergrad, and I am currently in nursing school. I do not have any regrets about spending four years to get a degree I am not using, I have no debt and it was a wonderful experience. After graduating I was considering beginning pursuit of a PhD but did not want to commit so signficantly to that lifestyle and future, and I did not find myself especially drawn to industry careers. I loved studying, learning, and (undergaduate level) research.

Nursing appealed to me as a career with a great job outlook, decent to mid-high earning potential, and flexibility. I also have a great deal of empathy, and a passion for health and sharing health (in some way) with others. Although I realize this is likely to be crushed after dealing with patients and healthcare systems for some time, I'm not too worried.

My biggest regret is not pursuing med school, as I think those might be a slightly better fit for me. Although every time I hear something about how "you're too smart to be a nurse," it only enforces my desire to excel in the field; especially as I want to work in critical care (as opposed to something like a nursing home).

I also do often have some regrets about not pursuing a career as some sort of government agent, or SIGINIT Analyst like the above poster, etc.

In more than a few years I expect to return to school either for a masters in math/compsci, and maybe a PhD, or for an MFA. But at a point in my life where the primary drive is passion not finding a career.

>> No.15036508

>>15036429
I will try to follow this philosophy, thank you

>Stay away from Wellesley girls too
kek

One more question and I will leave you alone. Realistically, how many organizations/clubs should I/could I join, without hurting my goals/ grades/hobbies? Are there some organizations in particular you would point out to besides HFAC and HCCG?

>> No.15036510

>>15036491
A master's in psychology and one year of post-graduate training. I'm in Europe though, I know that psych majors in the US are completely fucked.

>> No.15036521

>>15036312
I can't. I'm in default and it will take months to get out of it. I've written to 100 universities and none of them care.

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Quite surprised to see that not a lot of anons in this thread are studying or working in humanities/classical fields. I'm currently studying finance and I find it fucking miserable as I have zero interest in most of the courses, I'm considering switching to something more akin to my passions but at the same time I would like to be economically independent as soon as possible

>> No.15036558

>>15036547
>economically independent
stems from hating your parents or them hating you.

>> No.15036622

been on the dole for ten years

>> No.15036738

>>15036508
I'd frame it a slightly different way.

You should pick a courseload that is balanced and filled either with courses you want to take, or filler courses to balance out the harder courses you want to take. A balanced schedule will afford you some free time. You should reserve some of this for yourself (seriously, you should NEVER be booked to 100%, that's a recipe for falling behind when you inevitably have something come up).

With the other free time you have, you should ask yourself what would be fun or interesting for you to do as an extracurricular. Fun and interest should be the main driver. You can always join some pre-professional club or BS some activity for the resume, but the most important thing by far is to have something you enjoy that helps you relax from your coursework. If it ever starts to become "work" or detract from your goals for the semester, just fucking quit. I stayed in certain extracurriculars for way too long out of a sense of obligation, and it was absolutely retarded in retrospect.

I only mentioned HFAC and HCCG because they're both great examples of students looking at extracurriculars as courses and trying to "do" as many as possible. I wouldn't recommend them unless you do the bare minimum again, just to put it on the resume.

One of my friends joined a literary society that doubled as a drinking club / social organization. We all teased him but it seemed like he had a lot more fun than us with our "normal" activities. That always stuck with me. Not saying to comp all the literary journals, but his approach is likely a better one. If you're not going to get punched / from the elite private school crowd, your extracurriculars will become a huge chunk of your social life, so it's more important to be doing something you like with cool people who have actual interests, than doing something that sounds impressive or that you think the psychopaths at McKinsey want you to do. Try a bunch of stuff out and if it sucks, don't feel bad about dropping it like a bad habit. "I don't really vibe with these people" is a perfectly acceptable reason to stop doing something too, although you obviously wouldn't say that out loud. I didn't realize this when I was a freshman and sophomore, but to some extent you're picking your friend group when you pick your extracurriculars. If you don't think the seniors running the group are cool or admirable or fun to be around, it's gonna be a rough time. Ask yourself what type of people you want to be friends with at Harvard.

>> No.15036753

Children's librarian and freelance writer.

>> No.15036762

>>15036285
What would you recommend for someone to major in aside from the social sciences?
I wanted to get into PoliSci, but I feel like I would hate myself, and feel drained. I want to get a degree in history, but I know that there isn’t much money involved.

>> No.15036776

>>15036521
That sucks. Why is that you want to go back?

>> No.15036787

>>15036547
Don’t study something that bores you. No one needs you to study finance so why do it if you don’t want to?

>>15036762
I don’t have a specific recommendation, in fact, I no longer have a positive view of college in general. My personal experience is that people in social sciences often approach them as a middle ground to humanities or science and they would be better off just choosing one or the other. If you’re going to go, go for something that’s evergreen.

>> No.15036812

>>15036738
>something you enjoy that helps you relax from your coursework

yeah that's gonna be soccer for me

alright, i will look for one where I can creatively express myself, and if I feel, maybe one that I can just glue on resume

Once again, thank you anon and godspeed

>> No.15036819

While in college, I wrote philosophy essays for money. As it turns out, there is a market for it where I live - in a good season I churned out ~15 essays on Marx which could get me through 2 months of food and alcohol. After I got married, philosophy was removed from college curriculum, but I landed a job as a translator in a museum of contemporary art in my hometown and also moonlighted as an English teacher in an elementary school. I also did some translation gigs on the side.

That was a pretty fun period of my life. Once, a STEMfag friend of mine took a course in English poetry (the name of the course sounded pretty flunkable) and they received an assignment to translate into Russian a Coleridge poem of the student's choosing. My friend asked me to help him with the assignment for what was an obscene amount of money at the time. I took the job, and a couple of days after my friend was approached by his professor who came with an offer to publish the translation of "The Rime of Ancient Mariner" in a literature journal, since he "had never seen such a mastery of both languages in such a young man".
I also translated a bunch of borderline fanfiction novels about astral projections of Hitler and Lenin establishing an Orthodox Old Rite commune on Mars (that one is a long story).

Right now I am a STEMfag myself, working as a data scientist in a startup that managed to slip by the whole venture catastrophe that is coronavirus, earning over 5 times the average salary in my country while being only 24. Had to switch professions to provide for my family, but later I caught my wife fucking her academic advisor, but, as it turns out, the joke was indeed on her.

>> No.15036826

>>15036558
Hahahaha. I’m not even that anon but you’ve pinned me down to a T.

>> No.15036834

>>15036787
What does evergreen mean? Like profitable? I’m not really familiar with that term.

>> No.15036947

>>15036547
I would add a "but" to >>15036787 in that sometimes you need to do something boring if you have an outside reason for it, like providing for yourself or for your family.

I would be a Philosophy major if my family had any resemblance of savings, and if I had any chance for receiving an inheritance.

>> No.15036952

>>15032534
beggar

>> No.15037055

>>15035445
No, it's not. I wrote it earlier. I might have mentioned something along the same lines in previous threads, though.

>> No.15037115

>>15036834
That’s okay. It’s maybe not the best slang term to describe it. It means something that’s self-renewing. What I mean is study something that always has been and always will be worthwhile (i.e. logic, mathematics, classics, engineering, accounting, etc. - the stuff that’s been around for a long time and will be around for a long time and they don’t change every 10-20 years).

>> No.15037206

digital marketing but it's pretty terrible and has a low ceiling unless you grind your way to director, which I don't want to do. going to try to lern2kode and pick up some shitty meme framework during the quarantine so I can get that filthy tech money.

>> No.15037223

I tell people I am an ‘artisan’ but I am a Ranger. Not a lot of time to read to be honest.

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>>15037206

>> No.15037240

>>15034865
Soulless and boring but ultimately a very privileged position to be in

>> No.15037251

>>15035273
>>15037240
meant to reply

>> No.15037360

does anyone do ux/product design? ive been pondering it for the last few years but its so ambiguous as to what is rly necessary in order to get hired ie bootcamps, cs degree etc. i have a decent portfolio but haven't had the luck to receive any responses back.

>> No.15037470

Getting paid for esports tournament play by sponsor/coaching
Its not much but its only few hours a week less than 6
Spend most of my time contemplating ,reading spirituality ,meditation

>> No.15037593

>>15035610
I'm trying to enlist as a ground language analyst, so much bullshit right now.

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>>15032534
https://80000hours.org/

>> No.15037745

>>15035596
> Is it a field your interested in?
not OP but currently majoring in marketing

>> No.15037754

>>15037226
Interesting.

>> No.15037759

4th year undergrad studying finance, all my free time is /lit/ related and learning to play instruments. Shooting for private wealth management to help people navigate a system that, whether or not they like it, exists and can ruin them if they don't know up from down.

>> No.15037783

Bankruptcy lawyer. Recently hired, recently fired. Enjoying the corona-vacations as a NEET for the first time ever.

>> No.15037843

>>15036312
Thinking about it, I'm 33, no married, studied one career, worked, made good money I think but I was very stupid handle it, but I worked hard and now I apply for Director positions so can be a safe net.

Now I think I want to try a new one but the uncertainty kills me even tho I' ve been living in uncertainty for the past 8 years.

The problem of going back to school is that I can't have a normal job and studying, is going again having a shitty job or whatever to pay the bills and have time to study so that's tough and make me think if really worth it.

>> No.15037967

Creative Director working in advertising, boring most of the time and dealing with a lot of frustrated people. Most of the people working in Advertising wanted to be writers or film directors but they have too much ego to go through the hard path (that applies to me also lol)

So we dress as fucking idiots, doing shitty campaigns, talking about the same shit around brands and agencies, using words like "data", "insights", "disruptive", "Cannes", make good money and then existential crises in the middle of the night knowing we use our time and capacity to sell shampoo and candies through stupid social media influencers (yes, we are the ones who make them famous) and going back to work the next day.

>> No.15037971

>>15037783
I'm curious to know why a bankruptcy lawyer would be fired considering the current state of the global economy. This is not an attack on you btw.

>> No.15037973

>>15037226
Japanese really don't give a shit about programming?

>> No.15037996

>>15037967
Yes, I've heard them, why do they use the same tiring words? I lose count how many times I hear the word 'brand' from them while speaking

>> No.15038009

>>15037996
Because that makes them feel they know something. At the end the core of advertising (the good one) is just having a lot of imagination to turn a campaign into something good. But most of the people with zero imagination go for the buzzwords to fill the gap of not having any talent.

Is like those meetings where people talk about the same topic and each one says exactly the same thing as the other person but with other words to justify their position and salary.

>> No.15038048

>>15037226
By that opener you can tell that was written by someone who thinks that learning a programming language is learning to code. Nobody gives a fuck if you know Java or some other shit. If you know one programming language you know them all (almost). What people really care is your ability to solve problems. Depending on the area you might want to get into, what kind of problems you ought to solve: number and graph theory for computer science, statistics for machine learning, or simply follow orders from a screen (since every error you might find is either a. well documented or b. already solved by somebody else) and google stuff in software development. I would say the research you have to do to write a half decent 10 pages essay is the same you have to do to write a simple app, and if you lack that ability you are going to end up at the end of the chain, writing code nobody wants to write because is so simple yet so tedious to do so.

tl;dr: is not "programming" what is wrong, just like it is not philosophy nor painting, but people thinking they can be good at it with no talent nor willing.

>> No.15038079

>>15037226
which board is this from?

>> No.15038138

English major/linguistics minor. Probably gonna pursue a master's in linguistics and become a language teacher or pursue computational linguistics.

>> No.15038198

>>15037971
tbf i just graduated and had nothing too special to offer to the firm.
Things really slowed down in the courthouses due to a halt in the sessions.
Until the end of corona the chances of a new job rn are dire.

>> No.15038212

I'm doing an art degree and I work part time as an online ESL teacher. I get paid in Vietnamese though lol. I'm just not sure what I'll do after. Maybe I'll try and make it in academia

>> No.15038234

>>15038198
Fair enough, all power to you anon.

I'm going to finish my legal studies in a two years or so. Idk whether we'll still be feeling the aftershocks of this once I'm looking at grad jobs. Part of me says yes.

>> No.15038237

NEET/philosopher

>> No.15038265
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Graduated last year with a B.A. in Anthropology at a State school in the Midwest. Worked for a year in retail living at my parents because I realized after they gave me the degree that I actually needed to apply myself to get a job. Finally landed an archaeology technician position handling GIS databases out West, then the virus hit and now I'm back with my parents until work can resume. I was pissed because I finally landed my dream job, then I had to indefinitely suspend my contract. But I found out I'm getting paid till the end of April and I've got a lot of free time to read, so it worked out alright I guess. Hope is to go to either an Ivy league or German-equivalent grad program in a year or two and pursue Mesopotamian archaeology and GIS database management. Don't really know if that's feasible with a State diploma/references and a 3.5 GPA but we'll see. I'm hoping I can get a really high GRE score, earn some recognition in these tech positions to pad my CV,and wow the committee at a potential interview. I was told by some professors that archaeology across the Pond is very much about name recognition and background, neither of which I have. I don't know if that's true or not but it's got me kind of nervous.

>> No.15038305

>>15032580
Basically the plot to against nature

>> No.15038591

>>15032534
Do policy work for the govt.

>> No.15038622

Life's been bad. The times were improving but now they are worse than when they were their worst. Grows any nastier and literature, what kept me slogging along, won't be enough. What do I do when there's nothing worth doing or no options available?

>> No.15038640

>>15034573
Are you blackhand??

>> No.15038779

>>15038234
i bet you could probably get a pretty good job with a law degree though. There isnt much out there for art students. There is a very palpable anxiety in the art department for what comes after this, its always there but no one talks about it. We have fun though

>> No.15038789

>>15032534
I work at a grocery store right now, thinking about just living my car and be homeless. So I can travel.

>> No.15038817

>>15038640
what?

>> No.15038892

>>15037593
I'm >>15033111
Marines? Haven't been to DLI but I did go through the same schoolhouse. Don't touch the wooks.
>>15036312
Taking classes online now, planning on going to med school after another short contract.
>>15036502
Grass is always greener dude, I'd love to switch to something in health (but not nursing.) And for what it's worth, NSA and CIA both hire nurses/NP's.

>> No.15039009

I live in east eu so 12hour days factory minimum wage work with no prospects for me

>> No.15039015

I'm a landscaper

It's super comfy now the streets are quiet and everyone is too scared to come out and waste your time with pointless small talk.

>> No.15039060

>>15036444
Sounds awesome as fuck! Getting better at something creative and being paid for it!
How much hours did you draw per week before doing it fulltime?

>> No.15039108

>>15034286
How much do you make?

>> No.15039125

Where my doctors and lawyers at, the most /lot/ careers?

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>tfw first unemployment claim since I was approved for trump bux
Today is the day. Wish me luck, bros.

>> No.15039246

>>15032580
Fuck you

>> No.15039251

>>15039125
Maybe lawyers are lit, but doctors definitely are not

>> No.15039271

>>15039251
Cope

>> No.15039280

>>15038892
I'm trying AF right now. I need a Dod waiver for some medical things, if it's denied I'll try a different branch.
How's military life?

>> No.15039298

>>15039271
Very cool post pajeet

>> No.15039309

>>15034828
Explain why weed and psychedelics are illegal if not for suppressing the mental horizons of humanity so as to make them restricted only to the purviews of the status quo, whereby any act of rebellion results not only in social ostracisation — which includes being branded a “schizo” and sent to government camps — but also a loss of the very basic ability to meaningfully communicate with anyone.

>> No.15039314

This thread unironically helped me reflect on my current path in life and come to a decision on what to do. Been struggling for an answer for weeks now, thanks anons.

>> No.15039384

>>15032850
Fucking based, if I were good enough that id what if be doing

>> No.15039387

Paralegal, soon to be lawyer when I graduate next year.

I love my career choice. It's /lit/ and it's fulfilling.

>> No.15039405

>>15038198
A lot of big firms have started asking people to take pay cuts or straight up laid off people.

I'm clinging onto my job now but i'm worried the time for me is going to come soon.

>> No.15039407

>>15039298
Pajeets are seldom doctors and lawyers, not that I need to tell you ;)

>> No.15039413

>>15036310
If you're in a country where you can become a medical expert for legal claims (like personal injury) you should pursue it - they make a fortune.

>> No.15039416

>>15036191
Went to bed so sorry for the late reply but I read Time of Miracles then some months after Rabies, New Jerusalem and The Pilgrimage of Arsenije Njegovan (don't know why the English translation changed the title), also have his prison memoirs but they're quite long so I'm leaving them for later. All great stuff though Miracles is arguably a little 'unprofessional', being his first novel.

>> No.15039417

>>15039314
What will you do? Law?

>> No.15039421

>>15039251
What the fuck are you talking about? Many doctors were writers

>> No.15039425

>>15036502
What was mathematics like? Thinking of switching to it from an economics and finance degree.

>> No.15039430

>>15039417
I'm this anon >>15039425

>> No.15039473

>>15039280
The army is a fundamentally broken institution and soldiers are, on average, the best of the worst people the country has to offer. I fucking hate my day-to-day, but I'm just coasting until Selection. That said, I wouldn't change anything, I'm much happier here than I was going to community college and living with my parents.
AF seems cool, their NCO's are definitely more competent on average, and they aren't as big on fuck fuck games, but they promote painfully slowly and you can't really be high speed outside of CCT. Also no guaranteed contracts, which was the big thing for me when I signed.

>> No.15039500

>>15039387
Based, same except I graduate in two years.

>> No.15039543

I'm going to be a musician :)

>> No.15039567

>>15038622
Sorry to hear that, friend. Life’s tough for a lot of people right now. Just stay the course and you’ll get through.

>> No.15039585

>>15039543
Then leave lit. This is not an optimistic website.

>> No.15039591

>>15038622
Lottery.

>> No.15039648

>>15039473
There's surprising amount of high speed shit in the AF; special missions aviator (which doesn't have a selection), PJ, special recon, tacp. Of course the army has more though. I'm not going in for that stuff though, I'm not cut out for it to be honest. If I were a better man I'd do it. I just want to get out of where I am right now and stop feeling like dead weight. I was going to college and I'm living with my parents.
>I fucking hate my day-to-day, but I'm just coasting until Selection.
Which MOS are you going for? Best of luck to you. My Grandfather was airborne in Vietnam, he has a bronze star. Never have really talked to him about it though.

>> No.15039698

>>15034646
bruh imagine reading what the other guy posted and then writing this fucking reply

>> No.15039769

>>15036819
>caught my wife fucking her academic advisor, but, as it turns out, the joke was indeed on her.

Why's that?

>> No.15039795

>>15034646
You come across as completely insufferable.

>> No.15039804

Finishing my maths degree is a couple of months and have zero idea what I want to do. Haven't applied for any internships, jobs or anything.

>> No.15039897

>>15036819
gee, talk about a cliff hanger.. keep going

>> No.15039917

>>15037745
Cool. I majored in English, and it's my first job out of college. But knowing a little more about marketing could deffo give you an edge.

>> No.15039975

I'll shoot for an academic position, if it doesn't work welp I have no idea besides the classic high school teacher path (which wouldn't be the worst case scenario, if you land a job the pay is decent). My family is relatively wealthy and willing to support me until I figure out. Corona has come right when I was shaking off some months of idleness, so right now I feel very aware that I'm not doing enough.I'll try to get a job or study something more practical in the evening, at least I've got time to think.
>>15038265
super cool man, what was your career path? I've got this weird dream of getting into cultural anthropology out of nowhere but I don't know what to complement it with

>> No.15040011

>>15039648
18D, and going to batt if I don't get selected
>I just want to get out of where I am right now and stop feeling like dead weight
If there's one thing the military's good for, it's that. And you shouldn't think yourself less of a man for not going into sof, it requires certain uncommon priorities. There's still a ton of really cool stuff you can do in the military. The green machine will always have the most options, but if you want to do smart guy stuff, go air force. Better yet, do smart guy stuff in the air force, pick up tech, and apply for wocs in the army.

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English teacher at an all-boys school. Pay for what I do and the holidays I have is based imho. Also find it fun af.

>> No.15040085

>>15040052
Grammar school?

>> No.15040146

>>15032649
how do you get into doing that? do you have a degree?

>> No.15040250

>>15039975
What field are you in? I had your background and wish I just did a humanities field and defaulted to teaching instead of getting pressured into the bug race with an econ degree.

>> No.15040348

>>15036819
i am studying law right now but i am hating it. I am thinking about changing to economics and learning python, sql, stats and other thing either by myself or in uni elective courses.
I am thinking that data science may be the best career path for me because the following reasons:
1) Apparently it has a lot of diversity in the problems one can try to solve
2) You need great analytical skills
3) You need business knowledge and enough soft skills to sell your findings to your bosses
4)You are doing something kinda academical in a field that its evolving pretty quickly.

Can you tell me if i am just talking shit or if data science is really like that.

>> No.15040421

>>15039108
30/hr. Worked jobs that were 20/hr or 15/hr. Depends on the attorney. I've learned the money doesn't much matter as long as the cases are interesting and the boss isn't a fucking piece of shit.

>> No.15040439

>>15040348
Are you american? Pre-law degrees are a fucking joke. Get a degree in something interesting before going to law school.

>> No.15040468

>>15040439
No, i am in a third world country where law is an undergrad.

>> No.15040478

Software Engineer at a major US investment bank

>> No.15040491

Surveyor. Not lit at all

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>>15040250
History, I just finished my 3 years degree and thanks to the fact that Corona is going to delay my master anyway I've got plenty of flexibility on what to choose to focus on. My undergrad thesis (basically a glorified homework) was on an account of the East of a couple of portuguese guys, I don't think I want to stay on early modern period but I'm pretty sure that cultural history, maybe global history is my thing. I'm also still in time if I want to chose a different thing to master in, although it would make it a bit harder for me to meet the requirements for a public school teacher in my country (which is my C plan if nothing else works out). For my first three years I just "went with the flow", but now I'm out of intellectual stimula and need to get my shit together and plan my academic career. Sadly I don't have many people to talk about this with to help me figure out stuff.

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>>15032534
Disability for mental illness. I do write sometimes for a few people to read, but nothing else.
I spend most of my time reading.

>> No.15040925

>>15040552
Could you not speak to your professors?
Also, how would you rate your experience in history specifically? I mentioned I studied economics which was a waste, but I’m in a fortunate position where I can easily return for either grad or a second undergrad and I’m interested in classics, theology, and history (ancient and early medieval).

>> No.15040939

>>15032534
Full time Student currently. I might get a job in my last year to start paying towards debt + saving a bit for my future.

>> No.15040964

>>15032534
typist would have been the supremely /lit/ job.

>> No.15040968

>>15033111
I'm studying theology stuff, would you recommend SIGINT stuff for someone interested, or should I do chaplaincy stuff once I'm qualified.

>> No.15040975

>>15032742
Kino

>> No.15040984

>>15032580
Pay me college please. I'll dedicate a book to you. Thanks

>> No.15041101

>>15040925
>your experience in history
If you mean my experience with studying history academically, it has some pros and cons. Consider that I never was a huge history nerd and that I chose this faculty because I couldn't decide which branch of humanities to chose and history offered a wider approach to all of them, at least as an overview. From this point of view I was not dissatisfied. At the end of the day I discover that a lot of my interests lie elsewhere, but at least my ideas are clearer. I'm not the kind of guy that just obsesses over a period or a theme and learns everything about it like you would learn World of Warcraft lore, but a lot of my colleagues are, and they're pretty happy with what they're doing even if it's something they know they do just for the sake of it (there's value in that too i believe)

>> No.15041325

NEET with shitty half-baked skills that can't get me anywhere (drawing, playing an instrument, writing)
Currently living in my mother's old house that will be sold soon, delayed for now because of the virus. Will have to mooch off my other parent soon.
Too dumb and lazy for college. Probably too physically weak for manual labor. Definitely too socially incompetent to get through an interview. Things are looking up boys.

>> No.15041358

>>15036510
>>15036310
>diagnostics only
What does that mean ? You just dispense diagnostics then give your patients to a psychiatrist for treatment?

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>>15039425
Studying mathematics is as much about the subjects as it is learning how to think, how to understand continuums of abstraction and application, building and working with logical frameworks and systems. In a more, maybe metaphysical sense, studying mathematics allows you to connect on a very intimate level with the thread of human knowledge and the truths of the natural world. Obviously I'm a bit biased but I think switching to mathematics entirely would be a good choice, but a better one might be combining economics and math, or math and business, or some other humanity/social science. I'm of the opiniont that finance degrees can be a bit of a meme, especially if you are attending an elite college/university. Graduating from a well known institution with a degree in math will set you up nicely for entry into a career in finance.

>>15038892
>Grass is always greener.
Very true, especially when reading a thread like this one. We should all be thankful to always have the appreciation of literature to lend perspective, understanding, and a shared arena for thought.

Great thread.

>> No.15041618

>>15041358
I only do diagnostic tests and no treatment, yes. If the client turns out to be mentally ill, I refer them to a psychiatrist or psychotherapist, but most of my clients only come to me for a confirmation that they are indeed not mentally ill because they need that for their job. This is one of the reasons why it's a boring job.

>> No.15041934

>>15034525
basiert und rotpilliert

>> No.15042435

>>15032534
you can make huge bank if you can get a gig writing required college text books. especially when new editions are required each year in fields like tech.

>> No.15042604

Bump