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is this meta modernism?

>> No.15028335
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No, metamodernism is a joke

>> No.15028344

that's just people posting silly wojak memes about the bible

>> No.15028350

>>15028304
It's actually Meta-Irony or Post post-irony

>> No.15028355

>>15028350
it's just ordinary irony. in fact very simple and basic irony.

>> No.15028357

In my time, we called it shitposting.

>> No.15028367

>>15028355
>it's just ordinary irony.
It's not though. Meta-Irony takes it back to the first level (irony) but clothes it with post-irony.

So it's actually irony wrapped in post-irony = Meta-Irony.

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>>15028355
but it's almost like they know that everyone else knows that they're being ironic twits yet they do it any way. there's a metacognition going on.

>> No.15028381

>>15028370
also this

>> No.15028392

>>15028367
it's just people mocking a particular viewpoint by expressing it with memes. a simple kind of irony that's been in use for thousands of years.

>>15028370
all irony is performed with the idea that others are going to recognize it. what would be the point otherwise?

>> No.15028399

>>15028304
HATE. HATE. FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.

>> No.15028410

>>15028367
>>15028370
in fact it's the lowest kind of irony, really obvious and exaggerated sarcasm.

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>>15028392
>all irony is performed with the idea that others are going to recognize it. what would be the point otherwise?
normal irony is supposed to parody someone else. But this form of irony knows that it is extremely stupid, yet does not care anyway. I am not saying the gentlemen in this screenshot are particularly clever, I am saying that they're stupid in a specific way of knowing that they look stupid, yet act it out all the same.

>> No.15028449

>>15028434
i don't think this is true. i think they just enjoy the meme and think it's funny, and they expect others will also find the meme funny. and they do. it actually is a little funny in my opinion.

>> No.15028452

>>15028410
Here's a good explanation
>regular irony is saying “I’m a fool” while not actually being one. Post-irony is saying “I’m a fool” and being one. Meta-irony is saying “I’m ironic about being a fool”.

https://news.itmo.ru/en/news/8093/

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>>15028434
>>15028449
Kinda based.......

>> No.15028499

>>15028452
i don't see what this has to do with the thread in the op pic, which is just people applying a silly meme to an unexpected context and creating humor from it.

>> No.15028517

Lol I haven't been on here in years. People are still asking this question? Metamodernism is a nothing burger.

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>>15028449
>. i think they just enjoy the meme and think it's funny
yes, but im asking about the way they enjoy it.

Notice this: Both parties in the OP image are supposed to be making fun of each other right. But, they are both using the same exact style of shitposting that can be adapted to parody anything. You can put "heckin memerino" and a soijack on anything, and hey, look, you're doing irony!

But this is where it becomes meta. Both parties *know* that their parody can be adapted to anything, and yet they do it anyway. They know its meaningless and yet it do it anyway, because a meaningless gesture is irony in itself. Gestures cannot actually not be meaningless, but it's almost like this one is.

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>>15028586
we live in a simulacrum

>> No.15028625

>>15028586
it's just a meme that can be easily used to make fun of anything and it's the one that happens to be popular right now, so they use that one. simple as that. nothing more going on here.

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>>15028625
>memes can't be anything other than plainly ironic

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>>15028625
>it's just a meme that can be easily used to make fun of anything and it's the one that happens to be popular right now
yeah, I get that, trust me, I've grown up on this shithole internet, but I don't know man. It seems like it's just so absolutely devoid of content, yet still acted out in a sense that doesn't even seem to know if its being serious or not. Feels paradoxical to me is all I guess.