#7 Spanish General Thread - Domingo de Ramos edition

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#7 /SpGT/ - Welcome to the official thread for Spanish /lit/erature (español).

Feel free to contribute with reviews on your favourite authors, books, fragments, own works (so we can criticize them :), new editions or publications, and the like...

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We are currently reading "El Lazarillo de Tormes".

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Websites with Spanish e-books:
https://www.ebookelo.com/
https://www.lectulandia.cc/
https://www.espaebook.org/
https://bajaepubgratis.com/
https://epublibre.org/
http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page (pocos)
www.https://b-ok.cc/
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/

[OuPi No.15025039]

f for this general

[Anonymous No.15025059]

¿Quién aca pudiese sintetizarme las posiciones principales de éste señor? Es don Gustavo Bueno, el loco ese.

[Anonymous No.15025208]

Some anon a few years back, amidst a discussion of Spanish poetry, said we oughtn't to compare concise Shakespearean sonnets and Novalis' hymns to Hispanic attempts to mimic them. He argued that, due to the nature of our tongue, we are more prone to somewhat longer Alexandrine and hendecasyllabic verse. I tend to agree, just look at Darío or Garcilaso.
Dicho lo susodicho: ¿cuál es la métrica poética que más brío le permite a nuestra lengua?

[Anonymous No.15025235]

>>15024274
La única literatura que pienso leer esta semana es el sagrado Corán

[Anonymous No.15025257]

How fast can I learn to read Spanish if I already know Italian and Latin (and can read French)?
Any books I should read to train Spanish before Don Quixote so I can enjoy it better? Would reading a bilingual without knowing good Spanish not allow me to appreciate the superior use of Spanish language?
Recommended textbooks or methods?

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>>15025257
>How fast can I learn to read Spanish if I already know Italian and Latin (and can read French)?
I guess pretty fast. Those are Romanic languages. You are off from a good start.

[Anonymous No.15025306]

>>15025257
Latin and Italian are very helpful.
I usually read Wikipedia articles in the language I'm learning and once I feel like I have enough knowledge to not having to translate sentences all the time I move to books

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>>15025235
You have to go back, Mohammed.

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>>15025326
Make me, come and make me.

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>>15025350
>come
Only on your sister's tits and your prophet's face.
>make me.
We're coming to get ya.

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>>15025368
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA seething voxcel

>Y-YOU'LL SEE, CRUSADES 2.0. JUST WAIT AND SEE

[Anonymous No.15025441]

>>15025383
cope

[Anonymous No.15025451]

>>15024274
Iyoh, k eh un livro?

[Anonymous No.15025477]

>>15025451
Pues mira Ramos, sabes cuando acabas el entrenamiento y a la salida de Valdebebas están ahí siempre los pesados de los fans? El montón ese de papel que te dan para que firmes, ESO, ESO es nada más y nada menos que un "libro".

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>>15025208
Spanish poetry has more internal rhythm and is usually faster. It mimics the spoken language where there is a shift between drawn out sections with precise spoken nuance and the rapid fire of dealing with a low signal to noise ratio per syllable. The grammar ensuring rhyme causes a shift to rhythm akin to japanese forms of poetry. It favors complex rhythmic patterns highlighting cosonant forms. I think Neruda captures that lilting dialogue and the interplay between simplicity and intensity/density.

[Anonymous No.15025626]

>>15024274

absolutamente basado, este hilo

Por favor, estoy buscando cosas sencillas para leer, para practicar.

Specificamente, alguna historias cortas de escritores hispanohablantes

me encantaria tener unas recomendaciones.

[Anonymous No.15025645]

>>15025626
>historias cortas
We call them "cuentos", mate. Look into Borges, Rulfo, Cortázar, and Arreola. García Márquez and Bolaño also wrote some good ones here and there.

[Anonymous No.15025682]

>>15025645

algunos specificos? He trate de leer cosas de Garcia Marquez, pero tiene un estilo dificil a seguir para me.

Pero gracias, los buscare

[Anonymous No.15025741]

>>15025626
>Cortázar
La Continuidad de los Parques
Carta a una Señorita en París
Autopista Sur
Un Lugar Llamado Kindberg

>Borges
La Casa de Asterión
Pierre Menard, Autor del Quijote
La Lotería de Babilonia

>Bolaño
Sensini

You can find a bunch of free ones here:
https://ciudadseva.com/biblioteca/indice-autor-cuentos/

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>>15025682
Use English or the jannies fuck us right in the pompis.

>>15025451
No sé tío. En el instituto éramos algunos máh de baskeh. Y otroh. De balonsettoh.

>>15025626
>absolutamente basado, este hilo
Thx

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>>15025742
Podés dejar el namefagging de una puta vez?

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>>15025754
why should I?

[Anonymous No.15025769]

>>15025741

unreal, thanks buddy

[Anonymous No.15025771]

>>15025758
Porque estás en 4chan, tarado

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>>15025771
I don't follow. 4chan gives the option, and I like it, so I make use of it.

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>>15025235
عليكم السلام

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>>15025626
Pic related, Cervantes (with Novelas ejemplares) or Cortázar (with Bestiario)

[Anonymous No.15025855]

(Only for Spanish anons)
¿Alguno de vosotros tiene o ha leído los libros de la imagen que posteo? ¿Qué tal os parecen?
Son de la recomendación propia de Borges, editados por Siruela. Yo he podido leer algunos como la puerta en el muro, La casa de los deseos, o Micrómegas.
Ya decís algo.

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>>15025208
I'd say free verse. Just look at Pablo de Rokha and León Felipe. At the same time, endecasílabos, heptasílabos and octosílabos have been used in the greatest poetic works of the language. I'd say the silva (combination of endecasílabos and heptasílabos, i. e. Góngora's Soledades or Sor Juana's Primero Sueño) is the form that allows the most poetic breath, although it is quite difficult to use it. Otherwise, blank verse (endecasílabos sin rima).

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>>15025626
>Borges
Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius
El jardín de senderos que se bifurcan
El aleph
El milagro secreto

>Cortázar
La autopista del sur
Axolotl
Casa tomada

>Rulfo
Nos han dado la tierra
El hombre
El llano en llamas

>Bolaño
El retorno
La nieve

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>>15025855
nah. But I'm saving it.

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>>15025855
Haven't read any of them, but I know that that series is very expensive in the secondary market.

[Anonymous No.15025970]

¿Cuáles son vuestros autores favoritos de habla no hispana?

[Anonymous No.15026029]

>>15025970
Mark Twain, Italo Calvino

[Anonymous No.15026126]

>>15026029
>Italo Calvino
Basado
Recomiendo Bajo el Sol Jaguar si no lo leíste.

[Anonymous No.15026141]

>>15026126
No, no lo he leído
Los que me he leído son:
Si una noche de invierno un viajero
Las ciudades invisibles
El castillo de los destinos cruzados
El Barón Rampante
Todas las cosmicómicas
Y ahora estoy con Marcovaldo

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>>15026141
Los tienes en Siruela? Acá están bastante costosos.

[Anonymous No.15026225]

>>15026144
Que yo recuerde no: de normal suelo comprarlos de segunda mano, precisamente por saber lo que cuestan los de Siruela de primera. Así que me voy haciendo de varias ediciones (El de Marcovaldo, P.E, es de destinolibro84)

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>>15026144
Bibliotecas o soulseek

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>>15026141
Qué tal las Cosmiconómicas? De los que leíste mi favorito fue Si una Noche de Invierno un Viajero. Sus seis conferencias para el nuevo milenio también están bien si te interesa la ese rollo.

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>>15026241
Muy al estilo de Calvino: Intenta explicar algunos fenómenos astronómicos a través de su toque de humor
Aunque aviso: si has de hacerte con él hazte con el libro TODAS LAS COSMICÓMICAS, ya que es el compendio de las tres partes (cosmicómicas,Ti con cero, La memoria del mundo y otras historias cosmicómicas y Cosmicómicas viejas y nuevas)

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>>15025855
In attention to the rest of the /lit/ community, use English. The #2 thread was archived bc of this. Looks the janitors don't like threads they can't understand.

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>>15026357
¿Por qué no me comes los huevos como si fuesen un racimo de uvas?

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>>15025626
Anon, the suggestions you got until now are not very good if you want to practice your spanish.

Start with "Cuentos de la Selva" by Horacio Quiroga. And check his bio in wikipedia. Based life story.

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>>15026398
Yeah. Keep fucking with the guy that creates these threads. Keep fucking with one of the people who try to make /lit/ a better place, fighting off Guénon spammers and alike.

You are so smart, anon. Bravo.

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Hoygan xavales kuales son los articulos de Wikipolla mas /lit/?

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>>15026448
Los de la Viquipèdia

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>>15026424
And how about Hispachan?
'cause i don't take /int/ seriously for this type of threads

[Anonymous No.15026561]

>>15026424
Wow de verdad sos un héroe

[Anonymous No.15026666]

Don't forget to read, lads.

[Anonymous No.15026711]

>>15026666
Qué buen chart, te animarías a incluir a España y Portugal?

[Anonymous No.15026716]

>>15026666
Nice quads
A chart of Spanish literature when?

[Anonymous No.15026721]

>>15026711
Read the chart's title.

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>>15026721
Ya lo leí, por eso preguntaba
Por cierto, está mal escrito. En inglés se escribe Latin American, separado y con mayúscula.

[Anonymous No.15027069]

>>15026711
We can do one of "lenguas romances". Or at least try. Five for each one.


>Spanish
Quijote by Cervantes (pbuh).
Ficciones by Borges.
Residencia en la tierra by Neruda.
El llano en llamas by Rulfo.
Canto barroco by Carpentier.

>Portuguese
Livro do Desassossego by Fernando Pessoa
O Crime do Padre Amaro by Eça de Quieros
Ensaio sobre a ceguiera by Saramago
Cemitério de Pianos by José Luis Peixoto
Triste fim de Policarpo Quaresma by Lima Barreto

>French
Les Misèrables by Hugo
Fleurs du mal by Baudelaire
La Peste by Camus
À la recherche du temps perdu: Du côté de chez Swann by Proust
Voyage au bout de la nuit by Céline.

>Italian
Divina Comedia by Dante
Marcovaldo by Italo Calvino
Il pendolo di Foucalt by Eco
Verrà la morte e avrá i tuoi occhi by Pavese
Uno, nessuno e centomila by Pirandello

>Romanian
Cartarescu
???
???
???
???

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>>15027069
>Spanish
>No Lazarillo de Tormes
>Also, no Catalan

[Anonymous No.15027350]

>>15026711
>>15026716
I can do one for Spain and Portugal, but this is for Latin literature for now. I remember there were more chart ideas, if anyone has them just (You) me on them and I'll try to work on them tomorrow.

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>>15027350
>Best Spanish books (#1)
>These are candidates, we will make a poll and decide a top-15
-Don Quixote
-Cien años de soledad (García Márquez)
-Quevedo's Poetry
-Ficciones, El Aleph (Borges)
-Pedro Páramo (Rulfo)
-Residencia en la tierra, Canto general (Neruda)
-La guerra del fin del mundo (Vargas Llosa)
-Terra Nostra (Fuentes)
-Zalacaín el aventurero (Baroja)
-Fortunata y Jacinta (Pérez Galdós) -Ficciones
-Cien años
-Antologia de Rubén Darío
-Don Juan Tenorio
-Concierto Barroco (never Heard of it)
-National Episodes by Galdós
-¿Alguna recopilación de cuentos de Julio Cortázar?
-Martín Fierro
-Marco Bruto by Quevedo
The Motorcycle Diaries by Che
El Laberinto de la Soledad by Paz
Oráculo by Gracián
Castillo Interior by Santa Teresa
La Araucana by Ercilla
Yo, El Supremo
Facundo by Sarmiento
Confabulario by Arreola
And some selected poems by the likes of Miguel Hernández, Góngora, Bécquer, Garcilaso, et al. -La fiesta del Chivo: Vargas Llosa
-La guaracha de macho camacho by Luis Rafael Sanchez
Obras completas y otros cuentos by Augusto Monterroso
>Mysticism and Religious /lit/ in the Counter-Reformation period (#2)
Any ideas?
-Fray Luis de León: Cantar de los Cantares, “De los nombres de Cristo”
-San Juan de la Cruz: his poems
-San Ignacio de Loyola: Spiritual Exercises
-Santa Teresa de Jesús: Camino de perfección, Moradas del castillo interior,
-San Juan de Ávila: "Audi filia, et vide", Epistolario espiritual para todos los estados -Francisco de Osuna's "The Third Spiritual Alphabet".


>Medieval Canon for Spanish language (#3)
Any ideas?
-Cantar de Mio Cid -Francisco de Osuna's "The Third Spiritual Alphabet"
-Romancero Viejo
-La Celestina
-El Amadís
-Cárcel de Amor
-El libro del buen amor
-El conde Lucanor
-Cántigas de Santa María (Alfonso X)
-Sth by Berceo
-Sth by Marqués de Santillana
-Laberinto de Fortuna
-Las coplas de Jorge Manrique
-El libro de Aleixandre

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>>15027403
>>These are candidates, we will make a poll and decide a top-15
This. Wait some time. Also, I gotta update this yet. Some new suggestions from #5 and #5 aren't included there.

I do think that the #2 chart proposal is ready to go. And the #3 looks pretty close, too.