/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15023040]

can they?

[Anonymous No.15023047]

Of course. And they are very happy and fulfilled.

Inb4 moralfags

[Anonymous No.15023055]

If children can't consent, and only parents are allowed to make legal decisions on their behalf, are children the property of their parents and the laws about children property laws?

[Anonymous No.15023060]

>>15023055
and can you transfer your property to someone else, who may then use their property as they see fit?

[Anonymous No.15023065]

>>15023040
Perhaps but most of them don't even know what is it about, so when you go to them, you're the one that presents the idea for the first time, and in retrospect, you'll be seen as the trickster that led someone to fulfill your needs all because you know more, and hence more power to you. In this sense, you'll end up making her a prop for your plot, a tool for your ends, that is objectifying a person, which wouldn't happen in the Kantian kingdom of ends, and from more a consequentalist perspective, you're going against their autonomy eventually as the memory changes into something traumatic once they learn that your probable intentions were self-oriented.

[Anonymous No.15023068]

>>15023065
at what age did you start thinking about sex?

[Anonymous No.15023071]

>>15023068
12

[Anonymous No.15023078]

>>15023071
i'm in my late teens/early twenties
i'm super charismatic and chill
i become your life partner
now what if you wanted the D?
why not?

[Anonymous No.15023080]

>>15023065
that's true for most men with most women
and they like it

[Anonymous No.15023084]

>>15023047
>moralfags

you know, trying to insult people calling you out on your depraved state of mind won't change the fact that you need serious help

[Anonymous No.15023086]

>>15023040
begone shaytan, beautiful young virgin women are demons from hell sent to torture me even more.

[Anonymous No.15023089]

>>15023047
>moralfags
>How dare you question my lust for children, whom I will call teens in a misguided attempt to benefit my depraved nature
>Sure they haven't developed any physical or mental attributes that a normal sexually healthy adult would seek out
>But love doesn't have an age, and it's called hebephilia, not pedophilia, that way people don't look at me as bad because they don't know that word yet
>Fucking moralfags fucking up my child grooming tactics, banning me from the park
>This is all their fault!

t. Snakething

[Anonymous No.15023090]

>>15023040
Doesn't matter if they can, kill yourself degenerate

[Anonymous No.15023092]

>>15023040
>this looks like a job for...
edgy thread, just because they do doesn't mean they can

[Anonymous No.15023093]

>>15023089
>hebephilia
it's called normal sexual attraction

[Anonymous No.15023094]

>>15023055
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15023097]

>>15023093
>11
Angelic
>12
Perfection
>13+
The begining of the end

[Anonymous No.15023101]

>>15023068
Six.

[Anonymous No.15023102]

>>15023040
Fucking idiot. Teenagers are pimply assholes. Why would you be attracted to one?

[Anonymous No.15023111]

>>15023093
>Jacking off to 11-15 year old girls is totally normal
>Wanting to have sex with girls who are in high school and haven't figured out their identity as a human being is normal
>So what if I cheated on my 15 year old wife with a 10 year old I met at the mall, I'm a 43 year old man, I should be allowed to do what I want
I'm an atheist, and I wish you fucks would stop trying so hard to make Christians right all the time.

[Anonymous No.15023132]

>>15023111
>haven't figured out their identity as a human being is normal
But that is women for you. They will never figure that out lol!

[Anonymous No.15023143]

>>15023111
Also, who cares what your Christian/atheist debate. There is only one law, the law of my dick. And my dick knows what it wants and is always right. Society though can suck it.

[Anonymous No.15023144]

>>15023111
doesn't realize the bible says when a girl has her period she becomes a women. Try again gayboy

[Anonymous No.15023147]

>>15023055
based

[Anonymous No.15023166]

>>15023102
Because they're hot
>>15023111
>implying i have to jerk off to them
>implying "figuring yourself out" is a prerequisite to sex
>implying i'd defend adulterers (or teenagerers lol)

>atheist
DROPPED

[Anonymous No.15023167]

>muh consent
imagine treating morality as two parties negotiating a business contract

[Anonymous No.15023175]

>>15023097
it's depressing how her eyes are stained and marred as soon as she's 13

[Anonymous No.15023205]

>>15023167
It depends on your existential assumptions. Do you believe that people own their own bodies? or do you have a mystical theistic view that humans are merely borrowing their bodies, and don't have any ownership and self autonomy. I tend to assume everyone is self owned, even if they want to be enslaved by someone or something external.

[Anonymous No.15023216]

>>15023166
look at those dead eyes, jesus christ. It is like nothing is happeneing in her head

[Anonymous No.15023227]

>>15023216
You can't even make out her eyes in that low resolution video, honestly take your meds schizo

[Anonymous No.15023233]

Reminder: this board stands against Ageism and hate speech of all kinds.

[Anonymous No.15023236]

>>15023093
16 is actually the best.

[Anonymous No.15023239]

>>15023040
you dont know what it's like to have that happen to you when you're young and not feel the right way when you start to have sex with people your own age in puberty.

it is incredibly wrong, it makes you feel like you are a smear of shit on a wall

[Anonymous No.15023244]

>>15023233
this, so much this OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOODDDD

[Anonymous No.15023245]

>>15023227
Nearly 100 percent of people are automatons, so it's a safe guess.

[Anonymous No.15023250]

>>15023239
>it makes you feel like you are a smear of shit on a wall
How so?

[Anonymous No.15023251]

>>15023236
I agree. She doesn't look to babyish and still has not hit roastie level

[Anonymous No.15023253]

>>15023245
Saying 100% of people are automatons is just pessimistic semantics

[Anonymous No.15023256]

>>15023239
don't you think it happens to almost everyone?

[Anonymous No.15023267]

>>15023245
How do I know if I am an automaton.
I'm scared I'm actually God subjectively experiencing itself through my self. I may end up as a ceasar or a dead failure, and I'm moreso leaning on the latter.

[Anonymous No.15023269]

>>15023239
I almost had sex with my cousin when the two of us were little kids, but I didn't know what to do. I just knew it felt good to touch under the blankies. If I could go back in time mentally I definitely would have done it in multiple ways.

[Anonymous No.15023270]

>>15023239
it only makes you feel like shit because you are not living in patriarchy, and instead are two retards in highschool fucking around.

[Anonymous No.15023274]

Only when they reach the age of consent (14-16 in most countries)

[Anonymous No.15023280]

>>15023270
This. Little Aisha didn't complain. The majority females were marrying and fucking right after their first period. So this moralfagging by today's arbitrary standards is ludicrous.

[Anonymous No.15023281]

>>15023269
How old were you?
Also the person you're replying to is talking kids-adults

[Anonymous No.15023284]

>>15023274
>no dude you can't just date a 16 year old outside of America as a 23 year old

[Anonymous No.15023285]

>>15023280
That is untrue
Average, historically has been in late teens early twenties

[Anonymous No.15023287]

>>15023280
>Little Aisha didn't complain.
Alright that was a little too edgy I admit. Aisha was like 9 or something. Definitely didn't have her first period yet. That's too young.

[Anonymous No.15023289]

>>15023205
>Do you believe that people own their own bodies?
Ultimately no, we didn't create our bodies, just like we didn't create the world or anything in it, nor does ownership give you "rights" to do what is actually wrong and evil.


> I tend to assume everyone is self owned
why should we respect the 'consent' of someone else in an atheist worldview? Why not assume the whole world belongs to me? an atheist worldview already allows for rape, murder, necrophilia, theft, beastiality and any other degeneracy the human mind can imagine...

[Anonymous No.15023292]

>>15023281
8-10-ish.

[Anonymous No.15023293]

>>15023284
What about a 13 year old?
>>15023287
Pic related

[Anonymous No.15023295]

>>15023284
>Also we chopped off half your dick without your consent when you were a baby but that's completely different

[Anonymous No.15023297]

>>15023293
12.8 is perfect, see >>15023093

[Anonymous No.15023301]

>>15023111
>>Jacking off to 11-15 year old girls is totally normal
Yes, every 11-15 year old boy does this, you did too if you weren't a giant faggot.

>>Wanting to have sex with girls who are in high school ... is normal
Yes, prime sexual reproductive age. She is entering puberty and is ready to engage in sexual endeavors.

>Wanting to have sex with girls who ... haven't figured out their identity as a human being
You must be some special breed of retard. If you're going to follow this line of thinking we would all die without ever reproducing.

>>15023233
I also hate speech of any kind. Please stop speaking.

[Anonymous No.15023307]

>>15023239
Social construct you dumb faggot nigger. There's nothing wrong with the act, there's something wrong with society, an argument which you so aptly utilize when it is in your benefit to do so.
Read up on pre-colonization and pre-std hawaii.

[Anonymous No.15023309]

>>15023301
Except Japan doesn't have low age of consent.
Drawings are just legal over there.

[Anonymous No.15023312]

>>15023301
appeal to nature

[Anonymous No.15023314]

>>15023287
Too young for rough sex? Sure.
Too young for marriage? How so?

[Anonymous No.15023315]

>>15023301
>88.7%
Daaaaamn. Moralfags exposed.

In the end moralfagging against pedo and hebe is the same as moralfagging against anything. It is a form of resentment. If I am not rich then everybody needs to be poor. And if I can't have a perfect 12 year-old loli wife, well then nobody can! The Fox and the Grapes... It's all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.15023324]

>>15023315
>resentment
Sklavenmoral?

[Anonymous No.15023327]

>>15023324
Richtig

[Anonymous No.15023329]

>>15023289
>Ultimately no, we didn't create our bodies, just like we didn't create the world or anything in it
How can you prove we didn't create our bodies? The reality is that we exist and operate these bodies, so our self autonomy over the bodies we inhabit is self evident.
>to do what is actually wrong and evil
It depends on what you consider wrong and evil, if we're going by natural law standards evil could apply to coercing violence against another body against that naturally free agents will.
>why should we respect the 'consent' of someone else in an atheist worldview?
Why are we assuming atheism? You don't need to be religious to believe in natural morality and the autonomy of moving agents.
>Why not assume the whole world belongs to me?
It's self evidently not though, having the rights to your own body doesn't extend to having rights over anothers body unless you use violence. Let's say you're going to ask why is violence wrong, I would answer by saying that it simply is however most people enjoy their own autonomy and will use violence to protect their own bodies.

[Anonymous No.15023330]

>>15023309
>Except Japan doesn't have low age of consent.
Which is not mentioned anywhere in my post.

>>15023312
appeal to unnatural

[Anonymous No.15023331]

>>15023285
You're right, but there's a window all around this 'average', where law and morals find it legit, and therefore psyche wouldn't feel hurt.
>>15023287
I too think that she was too young, but I dunno if it was a traumatic experience.

[Anonymous No.15023334]

>>15023093
Reallt depends. Are you gonna marry her, nurture her for several years and then raise her children? Or are you gonna pump and dump her and leave yet another wasted youth? From my interaction with hebes, they fetishizie innocence and get off to corrupting one girls innocence only to move on to anothers after taking it. Hebes fall under a philia, so surely it makes sense for them to lose interest in the girl after fucking her. And i'm sure theres plenty of "biological" arguments for that too. Hebes fundamentally are dishonest. They want to fuck adolescent girls. Nothing more than just a very lowly and depraved animal action. No love or duty. Just porking 13 year olds because muh biology. Pure beasts.

[Anonymous No.15023345]

>>15023097
>>15023175
You're not well. Get help

[Anonymous No.15023348]

>>15023307
i might if i hadn't been raped
but you can go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.15023350]

>>15023334
>Are you gonna marry her, nurture her for several years and then raise her children?
Fuck yeah.
>hebephilia
It's a type of chronophilia, and I don't have that because most ages can get me off so long as they're attractive.

I just want my tween GF for
1. Aesthetic reasons
2. Pair bonding

[Anonymous No.15023352]

>>15023301
> prime sexual reproductive age
11 to 15 isnt prime reproductive age by any physiological standard. Just admit that you prey on the young.

[Anonymous No.15023353]

>>15023330
>Which is not mentioned anywhere in my post
Look at the quote and cartoon in your image macro.

[Anonymous No.15023354]

>>15023334
I agree with the premise that hebe should be integrated to a strictly patriarchic system like Mosaic or Sharia Law, otherwise it can become a mere fetish. You are given a wife and that's it, you can't have another one.

[Anonymous No.15023359]

>>15023040
the answer to this question doesn't matter because no 12 year old would willingly want to fuck anyone your age. you can go into your
>1860 child wife says how much she loves her husband
folder and make yourself feel better, but that doesn't change the reality. go look in a mirror.

[Anonymous No.15023362]

>>15023352
>11 to 15 isnt prime reproductive age by any physiological standard

[Anonymous No.15023364]

>>15023348
So the issue isn't sex, but rape. Thanks for clearing it up.

[Anonymous No.15023365]

>>15023352
Men who engage with girls who enter puberty will have more children than those who don't, which means that everyone who subscribed to your foolish notion of sexual attraction was outcompeted and bred out of existence tens of thousands of years ago. Seethe faggot.

[Anonymous No.15023366]

>>15023359
>no 12 year old would willingly want to fuck anyone your age.
I'm a zoom zoom.

[Anonymous No.15023370]

>>15023353
The quote doesn't mention age of consent laws.

[Anonymous No.15023375]

>>15023350
>so long as they're attractive
You mean, so long as they resemble 12 year olds?
>>15023354
So long as the girl is given by the father and well taken care of as a single and only wife til death do you part, then I am willing to to admit hebes. If its just because you wanna fuck vulnerable 14 year olds with daddy issues, then I am opposed.
>>15023362
Wow not a single argument. All biological studies indicate that AT LEAST 16 years of age is a basic physiological requirement for healthy reproduction
>>15023365
And yet you're the only pervert. Really activiates the almonds

[Anonymous No.15023377]

>>15023354
>you can't have another one.
Unless we're talking polygamy, but I meant to say, you can't discard this one when she turns into an insufferable roastie the day she turns 20.

[Q No.15023378]

>>15023352
THATS FACTUALLY WRONG

[Anonymous No.15023380]

Traditionally there was no difference between rape/adultery and sex/marriage. Shit ensues, as well as unending dilemmas, as soon as sex and marriage are regarded as separate things. Let's just shut the fuck and admit that nobody know what they want. "Consent" is not older than the internet, and doesn't deserve more respect intellectually speaking.

[Anonymous No.15023382]

>>15023375
>You mean, so long as they resemble 12 year olds?
Not at all

[Anonymous No.15023383]

>>15023375
>And yet you're the only pervert. Really activiates the almonds
Apparently all your ancestors were too, and if someone put you in a chair with diodes strapped to your head and made you watch nude pictures of little girls your brain would light up like a christmas tree, regardless of your hysterical ranting on an anonymous imageboard.

[Anonymous No.15023388]

>>15023382
That girl is in her 20s. Thanks for arguinf against hebeophilia

[Anonymous No.15023390]

>>15023388
Do you see what I'm quoting?
I know, I just told you I like both.

(But I prefer the tweens)

[Anonymous No.15023394]

>>15023383
None of my ancestors fucked 12 year olds and forcing someone to watch cp doesnt justify cp. You're really low IQ but that doesnt surprise me since you're a child raping degenerate

[Anonymous No.15023400]

>>15023329
>How can you prove we didn't create our bodies?

How can you create yourself before you exist? and let's not pretend anyone 'knows' how their body was made. If you had such power your body wouldn't decay, age, or die...You don't own your body, or the people in the world.

>It depends on what you consider wrong and evil, if we're going by natural law standards evil could apply to coercing violence against another body against that naturally free agents will.
There's no such thing as morality that "depends on what you think" or a 'natural morality'.... that's not morality, that's relative preferences grounded in subjectivity. Nature doesn't bestow rights. Morality is like math, 1+1 = 2 it doesn't depend on what you prefer. The fact that rape and murder are wrong do not depend on your point of view or your speculations about nature.
objective morality, what is truly right, is whatever is in accordance with God's law.


>Why are we assuming atheism? You don't need to be religious to believe in natural morality and the autonomy of moving agents.
>It's self evidently not though, having the rights to your own body doesn't extend to having rights over anothers body unless you use violence
Without God you have no rights, and no duties. Violence becomes a means to an end. And you're smart enough to know this, stop piggy-backing on Christian ethics. If you reject God and his law, you have nothing but subjective preferences and "might makes right" type of ethics.

[Anonymous No.15023411]

Patrician thread guys

Inb4 deletion

[Anonymous No.15023423]

>>15023040
Women are retarded. They can't consent at any age.

[Anonymous No.15023436]

>>15023167
What on earth makes you think the important things in contracts is consent?

[Anonymous No.15023455]

>>15023436
the larger point was that nothing in man-made contracts is 'important' to determining actual moral righteousness, including the consent of the parties.

[Anonymous No.15023470]

>>15023455
can i have sex with them or not?

[Anonymous No.15023474]

>>15023455
That's still not a coherent point. It's also not true, so poor all around. You've got your own weird buzzword of "actual moral righteousness" just floating around there.

[Anonymous No.15023479]

>>15023470
No. No one is ever going to consent and you are too mentally and physically weak to ever be able to force yourself on them.

[Anonymous No.15023484]

>>15023479
i respectfully disagree.

[Anonymous No.15023490]

>>15023470
can I eat them afterwards?

[Anonymous No.15023523]

>>15023490
only if they are prepared by a licensed culinary expert

[Anonymous No.15023538]

>>15023523
dude...WTF

[Anonymous No.15023540]

>>15023470
If the 12yr old consents and her parents consent, then you can marry her.
And once they are of legal age (16 or 18 or whatever it is in your country) you can consummate the marriage.

That's the best I can do for you.

[Anonymous No.15023542]

>>15023523
ah the japs

[Anonymous No.15023545]

MODS

[Anonymous No.15023546]

>>15023540
can I consummate it first and then marry them at 16 or 18?

[Anonymous No.15023557]

>>15023546
Do what thou willt

[Anonymous No.15023584]

>>15023557
get behind me satan

>>15023546
no of course not.
repent.

[Anonymous No.15023621]

>>15023584
>no of course not.
Why not?

[Anonymous No.15023634]

>>15023621
brother, we should flee from this topic and not entertain it so much. It is very despicable.

[Anonymous No.15023641]

>>15023634
Another anon told me Guenon(PBUH) would approve though

[Anonymous No.15023721]

>>15023080

>that post

/lit/ has rare moments of inspired creativity.

[Anonymous No.15023722]

>>15023721
Are you blind?
That's /pol/

[Anonymous No.15023751]

>>15023523
Too far.

[Anonymous No.15023780]

I was banging a hot 16 y.o. not too long ago, had to end the relationship unfortunately, her mother didn't mind also

[Anonymous No.15023787]

>>15023309
>woman fucks underage kid
>misdemeanor
>man fucks underage girl
>felony

[Anonymous No.15023793]

>>15023751
This is when you know it’s time to pack it up and leave the board, farewell /lit/ time to actually read some fucking books

[Anonymous No.15023795]

>>15023334

[Anonymous No.15023802]

>>15023080

I just might be retarded but exactly how am I supposed to recite that poem? I just can't make it work.

[Anonymous No.15023805]

>>15023795
Looking at this picture makes me sick

[Anonymous No.15023807]

>>15023350
>Pair bonding
Just say grooming, anon.

[Anonymous No.15023813]

>>15023362
Just because you can see her bum (which is likely only developed because she plays sports), doesn't mean she's physically ready for having a child (let alone emotionally ready, but I doubt you think women are human). Her hips are nowhere near wide enough.

[Anonymous No.15023820]

>>15023813
Hips aren't wide enough. I guess Asian women are not fit for having children then.

[Anonymous No.15023827]

>>15023538
>>15023751
isnt this comic like 15 years old? i swear to god i saw this shit when i was a young lad