sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.15019856]

WHAT COMES NEXT EDITION
BOOK CLUB Spin - Robert Charles Wilson https://mega.nz/#F!O1cFiKaS!hPf1KFnauX7PSaM5PJE3QA
RECS https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
CHAT https://discord.gg/KWPCM7m
CHARTS https://mega.nz/#F!JrhSyY6S!7qmTPol52TnmpFOdbag7RQ
THREADS >>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg
MANAGEMENT https://calibre-ebook.com/download
BOOKS & AUDIOBOOKS https://forum.mobilism.org/viewforum.php?f=120

Previous thread:
>>14999427

[Anonymous No.15019862]

APRIL SFF RELEASES
Doesn't include self-published or probably various others.
http://locusmag.com/forthcomingbooks/

MARK ALDER - Devil’s Blade
RACHEL ARMSTRONG - The Decomposition Comedy
NEAL ASHER - The Human
ROBERT JACKSON BENNETT - Shorefall
RAMSEY CAMPBELL - The Wise Friend
RAMSEY CAMPBELL - The Retrospective and Other Phantasmagorical Stories
M.R. CAREY - The Book of Koli
JOHN CONNOLLY - The Dirty South
SARAH BETH DURST - Race the Sands
NEIL GAIMAN & P. CRAIG RUSSELL - American Gods, Vol. 3: The Moment of the Storm
FRANCES HARDINGE - Deeplight
S.L. HUANG - Critical Point
HAO JINGFANG - Vagabonds
S.T. JOSHI - His Most Fantastic Creation
KATHE KOJA - Velocities
DEAN KOONTZ - Devoted
NANCY KRESS - Sea Change
MADELEINE L’ENGLE - The Moment of Tenderness
MARK LAWRENCE - The Girl and the Stars
TIM LEBBON - Eden
LOUISA MORGAN - The Age of Witches
LARRY NIVEN & JERRY POURNELLE - Starborn & Godsons
JEFF NOON - Creeping Jenny
MIKE RESNICK - The Mistress of Illusions
VERONICA ROTH - Chosen Ones
JOHN SCALZI - The Last Emperor
CAROLINE STEVERMER - The Glass Magician
MICHAEL SWANWICK - The Postutopian Adventures of Darger and Surplus
MOLLY TANZER - Creatures of Charm and Hunger
JODI TAYLOR - Plan for the Worst
TIMOTHY ZAHN - Queen

[Anonymous No.15019943]

Read: translated web novels
Don’t read: contemporary western sci fior fantasy

[Anonymous No.15020008]

Why does /lit/hate sffg?

[Anonymous No.15020011]

>>15020008
Because seeing people who actually enjoy reading confuses and thus angers them.

[Anonymous No.15020028]

>>15020008
Everything China produces is based and red pilled
Meanwhile western authors are almost all soibois

[Anonymous No.15020068]

>>15019862
I thought it was The Last *Emperox

[Anonymous No.15020072]

Does anyone have any recs for that cozy adventure feeling? I'm looking for cooking over an open fire under the stars and inns full of ale with friends sort of questing vibe. Classic hero's, rouges, antiheros, errant farmboys, I don't care

[Anonymous No.15020082]

>>15020072
Shades of Magic series by V.E. Schwab. Has the cozy vibes of a town sequence in an early Final Fantasy game.

[Anonymous No.15020097]

>>15019943
Are you talking about webnovel.com? Because that's some of the most cringe fetish bait "romance" shit out there even for the Asian market.

[Anonymous No.15020105]

>>15020008
elitism

[Anonymous No.15020147]

What do I read next?

The Three-Body Problem, Liu
Revelation Space, Reynoulds
The Diamond Age, Stephenson
Red Mars, KSR

[Anonymous No.15020152]

What are some good fantasy audiobooks that I can listen to while I'm working in excel? Preferably some deep cuts with mature themes since I've read most big fantasy series.

[Anonymous No.15020179]

>>15020082
Just downloaded the preview, thanks for the recommendation, have a cozy /k/ pic I found

[Anonymous No.15020233]

Recommend me a good space opera series written in the last couple of years.

[Anonymous No.15020268]

>favorite book store is closed down due to corona
>finding books on amazon and goodreads feels too difficult because I don't know where to begin and it always recommends me the same few things
>thought about just downloading a bunch of ebooks and going through them until I find something I like but I have a hard time focusing when reading on tablet or pc

[Anonymous No.15020340]

>>15020147
Revelation Space

[Anonymous No.15020354]

First for E William Brown is a cool dude

[Anonymous No.15020357]

https://www.haaretz.com/1.5472801
Why is the genre of fantasy literature virtually nonexistent in Israel?

There's no Israeli fantasy, and I think it's one of the biggest weaknesses of Hebrew literature.

There's a stigma against original Israeli fantasy and science fiction literature. They assume that the original stuff will be terrible, awful.

I receive only about 10 original manuscripts a year, and the vast majority of them aren't publishable. One possible reason is that classic fantasy like Tolkien is based on a mythology of the sword and of magic, a matter very deeply embedded in Christian culture. With us, it's not.

Anything that doesn't deal strictly with reality is perceived in this country as inferior. One author said that science fiction deals with the future, and here in Israel, people are very doubtful if this country even has a future.

Israeli authors have a huge fear of fantasy. I think there's a general fear of fantasy in the world.

A Song of Fire and Ice...two volumes of the series came out to such a small following that publishing the third volume was in doubt.

[Anonymous No.15020391]

>>15020268
Join the group in the OP.
There's a huge SFF torrent on /t/, but that would be excessive probably. There are various other smaller collections though.
Get an e-reader. Pretend it's a book.

[Anonymous No.15020407]

>>15020072
deed of paks if you can cope with female protag
recluce is supposedly like this but I've read one book in the series and it was the one that deliberately broke from the formula lol

[Anonymous No.15020434]

>>15020391
I have a tablet with ereader apps on it, I'm fine with using it for manga and stuff but actual books bother me on it so I'm not sure what difference and e-reader would make, and I'm in the group but it's still just too much choice I guess I like having a physical shelf I can pick off of and the local store normally has sticky notes from employees on different books saying if they're good or not which has always worked for me, if I wasn't autistic this would probably be less of an issue

[Anonymous No.15020444]

>>15020233
The Salvagers, Luna: New Moon, Imperials (Snodgrass)
Self-pub but decent: Poor Man's Fight
One book so far but I really liked it: Finder, Aftershocks
Series had promise but haven't read on: Embers of War

[Anonymous No.15020469]

>>15020434
ereaders, even with the backlight on, are much easier on the eyes than a screen.
it's no different to a book for me and I can't read on screens much with my eyes

[Anonymous No.15020478]

>>15020434
>sticky notes from employees on different books saying if they're good or not which has always worked for me
Oh ok, there's no helping you then. My mistake.

[Anonymous No.15020481]

>>15020444
Thanks i'll check them out.

[Anonymous No.15020493]

There's a huge disconnect between the regulars who tell people what to read and those who this is their first post ever in /sffg/, and probably last, asking what to read.

[Anonymous No.15020496]

>>15020469
I'm not sure it seems like apps try to do that as well if this goes on for any longer maybe I'll give in and try it

>>15020478
How is employees reviewing anything different from randoms on the internet reviewing anything other than that one removes the trouble of having too many choices because you're limited to what they have in?

[Anonymous No.15020504]

>>15020496
That's exactly my point. Your most important goal is the removal of choice.

[Anonymous No.15020544]

elfshadow by Elaine Cunningham is on sale today, is it good?

[Anonymous No.15020553]

>>15020544
I read it when I was around 12, when I was reading a lot of Forgotten Realms in general. I liked it at the time.

[Anonymous No.15020580]

>>15020544
yes it's fun

[Anonymous No.15020668]

I come back so soon, looking for a recommendation. I'm soon going to finish the novellas to the World of Five Gods. And I need something new to read. Last thread, someone recommended Circe. But they didn't say why, or anything else about the book. With nothing to go on, I turned to goodreads for a description. And I have to say, it sounds like a dumb powerfantasy. So I'd rather take another recommendation. Unless someone can vouch for Circe.

Here's my copypasta that I'm sure a number of you are sick of seeing. But it's necessary.
Finished:
Dune**, Licanius Trilogy*, The First Law, The Broken Earth*, Memory Sorrow and Thorn*, The Wheel of Time**, Nightflyers*, Book of the Ancestor*, A Memory Called Empire*, The Curse of Chalion 1-3**, Penric's Demon*, Penric and the Shaman*

Ongoing:
Cradle(Will Wight)**, A Song of Ice and Fire**, Borne(chapter 33)

Skipping:
The Prince of Nothing, The Book of the New Sun, The Black Company, Malazan, The Song of the Shattered Sands

*liked
**liked a lot

[Anonymous No.15020739]

>>15020354
Fuck E William Brown.

[Anonymous No.15020741]

>>15020668
>skipping
You are missing out on some good stuff

[Anonymous No.15020760]

>>15020741
There are various reasons why I'm skipping these. It doesn't necessarily mean they're bad. But a couple of them were bad. I'll let you assume which ones, because I don't want to explain myself further.

You have any recs?

[Anonymous No.15020789]

>>15020668
No. I gave you a chart the last time, and your autistic ass already forgot.
Write out on paper what you like in fantasy, rape, matures, magic, politics, incest, war, monarchies, etc, then go look for those things in other books.

[Anonymous No.15020814]

>>15020789
How many times do I have to tell you that I don't like your chart, until you accept this fact? Do I have to be ruder? Am I not being insulting enough? I will never EVER use your chart. E-V-E-R.

There are a lot of shit out there, and I'd rather not rely on basic tags like "politics" to determine what I read. I'd much prefer material that's been vetted by you kind folk.

[Anonymous No.15020854]

>>15020789
I mean, what the hell is wrong with you anyway? You can't recommend one book? Is that really so hard? You want me to look at your 50 book chart, and make a single decision. But you can't do the same? You can't think out of your extensive reading history, and go "this one is good", and give like a sentence or two explaining why? Why is this task so beneath you? Am I inconveniencing you somehow by asking for just one fucking book recommendation? How autistic are YOU?!

[Anonymous No.15020901]

>>15020789
You ignored me again when I criticized your self-published chart.

[Anonymous No.15020903]

Which should I read first? Book of the New Sun or Dying Earth?

[Anonymous No.15020987]

>>15020903
Vance first if you're definitely gonna read both
Easier read and it introduces you to the genre botns is placed within

[Anonymous No.15020989]

>>15020903
I did BotNS -> Dying Earth
In hindsight I feel like that was a good order, you want to be awed by the stuff in new sun, not eased into it
Both were great experiences, and it was interesting to see what different authors can do in similar settings, or rather what influenced Wolfe
But, really the books shouldn't be tightly compared, they are different species

[Anonymous No.15020999]

>>15020987
>>15020987
>In hindsight I feel like that was a good order, you want to be awed by the stuff in new sun, not eased into it

>Easier read and it introduces you to the genre botns is placed within

Lmao, which one is it?

[Anonymous No.15021037]

book series like harry potter?

[Anonymous No.15021045]

>>15021037
The Dark is Rising sequence
The Prydain Chronicles
Jinx series

[Anonymous No.15021049]

>>15021037
The Chronicles of Narnia
;v)

[Anonymous No.15021157]

>>15021037
The Magicians

[Anonymous No.15021177]

>>15020668
Try Will Wight's sea and Shadow series.

[Anonymous No.15021199]

recommend me a book, my favorite from the genre:
Revelation Space
Book of the new sun
Blindsight

[Anonymous No.15021212]

Are there any books with flashy fights like people flipping over hurled spinning swords or use of magic on close quarters combat? The only I can think of is Sanderson since most fantasy or sci fi authors have a boner on realism.

[Anonymous No.15021223]

>>15021212
Wuxia and xinixia novels.
Cradle, thousand li, coiling dragon, etc

[Anonymous No.15021227]

>>15021037
Tiffany Aching books

[Anonymous No.15021250]

Thank god I've finally found a fantasy novel that doesn't suck horse dick. There's no cringe, no edge, no progressive politics, the writing is good, the language is simple yet evocative. It's not nonsensical, it doesn't feel like a movie, it doesn't smell of comic books. The Irish are God's greatest blessing to mankind.

[Anonymous No.15021268]

Any scifi takes on armchair exploration books?
A scifi book that doesn't have a storyline per se, but morea traveller experiencing a different world or alien race.

Just finished reading some of wilfred thesigers writings on the arabs and his journeys in the desert, and wondered if there was something similar where it seems like an account of a journey or a diary of travels.

[Anonymous No.15021274]

>>15021223
A real shame that most of them are shit and are more focused xp grinding and power levels.

[Anonymous No.15021287]

>>15021274
xianxia and wuxia aren't litrpg, there should be no xp gringing in them

[Anonymous No.15021310]

>>15021268
Some of Dunsany's fantasy stories.

[Anonymous No.15021328]

>>15021274
Are you just trying to fit in by using buzzwords?

[Anonymous No.15021330]

>>15020668
>skipping the black company
imagine being this retarded

[Anonymous No.15021360]

>>15021268
First and last men fits the bill nicely. I remeber seeing a book imagining what the future of mankind will look like, it had all sorts of fantastical alien-human hybrids in it. It was purely descriptive. For the life of me I can't remeber what its name was. Also check out the dictionary of the khazars for a similar sort of experience.

[Anonymous No.15021441]

>>15021199
3 body problem?

[Anonymous No.15021465]

Going to try writing again tonight /sffg/. Pray that this time my depression doesn't cause me to crumple before I build up momentum.

[Anonymous No.15021500]

>>15021465
You got this brah.

[Anonymous No.15021525]

>>15021037
my friend says House of the Night series are like Harry Potter + Twilight without faggot vampires

[Anonymous No.15021616]

>>15021465
>just got an email back from a beta reader who liked my manuscript and only had two nitpicks

we're all gonna make it brah

[Anonymous No.15021621]

>>15020097
Dont read anything by a woman

[Anonymous No.15021630]

>>15021268
Apparently the book Quarter Share by Nathan Lowell and it’s series are literally just about a guy on a space ship doing day to day stuff without a plot really. I myself have been meaning to read it.

[Anonymous No.15021632]

>>15021274
Qi and spiritual energy are real things

[Anonymous No.15021635]

>>15021360
All Tomorrows by some turkish guy

[Anonymous No.15021641]

>>15021616
>tfw I'm 86k words in and only half-way done

this shit takes time

[Anonymous No.15021674]

>>15021641
My novel was just 55k words, kept it short, sweet, and digestible.

[Anonymous No.15021709]

>>15021616
>beta reader
>not an alpha reader

[Anonymous No.15021713]

Is Le Guinn good?

[Anonymous No.15021715]

>>15021049
Harry Potter and Narnia can actually be talked about in the same light, in that they draw on many of the same cultural and philosophical references

[Anonymous No.15021725]

>>15021287
Literally what cultivation is
>>15021328
>power level is a buzz word

[Anonymous No.15021726]

>>15021713
It depends on what you're looking for. There's not a lot of action in her books, and Earthsea especially is based on a whole philosophy of creating a universal spiritual balance through dedication to inaction.

Left Hand of Darkness gets more interesting, and is a good example of how themes of gender identity and sexuality can be handled without being a shrill social justice sermon.

[Anonymous No.15021792]

>>15021709
it's /sffg/. name all the alpha sff writers who would have alpha readers

[Anonymous No.15021802]

>>15021635
Yup. That's the one.

[Anonymous No.15021812]

I finished last month's reading Gideon the Ninth finally and it was good. I'll try the next book when it comes out too.

But god fucking damn it the concept she used to end the conflict is 95% the sme idea I had for my book's ending. Now I have to figure something else out.

[Anonymous No.15021825]

>>15021812
Gideon the Ninth is stupid and dumb.

[Anonymous No.15021889]

>>15021726
Well, I did read one short story by her. I actually liked it and I have no idea why. I did not like the message and I do not agree with a single one of her political, philosophical, or religious views, and yet for some reason I enjoyed reading it. I guess it's the prose that I liked, so what I expect out of Earthsea is a decently written fantasy. I don't need a bunch of action and war scenes in a fantasy story to keep me interested, I just need the bare minimum of an interesting story with good prose and well written characters.

[Anonymous No.15021906]

Feel like pure shit today, what's some good happy fantasy books that aren't for children

[Anonymous No.15021927]

>>15021906
The Night Circus or The Starless Sea if you want something mostly twee and upbeat.

[Anonymous No.15021948]

any sci fi books on the tier of Neon Genesis Evangelion? not manga

[Anonymous No.15021966]

>>15021948
Do you mean something where the characters are constantly in pain and doubting their own sanity? You want:
>The Rifters trilogy by Pete Watts

Do you mean something with a fictitious conspiracy involving aliens, monsters, and weird shit hidden away by The Man? You want:
>The Tinfoil Dossier series by Caitlin R. Kiernan

If you want YA with emotionally troubled and traumatized young characters, you want:
>Six of Crows/Crooked Kingdom duology by Leigh Bardugo

[Anonymous No.15022034]

>>15021177
ok, I'll give it a go after I'm done my current book. Normally I would like some reason or descriptor of some kind. But I'll try it out blind, based on the good credit of the author. This is the first time I will have revisited an author's work after having taken a break.

I'm not a fan of this "parallel trilogy" thing. It sounds like he figured out a way to entice people to buy 2 books for 1. Which means treading over the same events. But oh well.

[Anonymous No.15022517]

>>15022034
Not sure who started it but Orson Scott Card helpled popularize it with the Ender books. An earlier prototype was David Edding's Mallorean sequel series where he used time as a circle as the excuse to write the same fucking plot. But people buy them because they want more of the same.

[Anonymous No.15022640]

https://locusmag.com/2020/02/2019-locus-recommended-reading-list/

[Anonymous No.15022799]

Honestly I really liked this series in retrospect even though it had very noticeable flaws, basically vast majority of Adare chapters. I just wished the world had been slightly more fleshed out, I guess I feel this way because the majority of the book takes place in various parts of the extreme edge of civilisation. Even though Valyn walked the line of being an edgelord at someparts of the third book I really enjoyed his bits, I've always loved the 'presumed dead but actually living in the wild' trope, but I do like that he took the entire trilogy of slowing increasing Valyn's awareness that he possessed some unnatural abilities.

The author said he's finished an 800 page book which will be the first in a new trilogy that occurs in the same world and will have recurring characters from the previous trilogy, I just wish that he would publish it now instead of waiting till he's finished the 2nd book as well.

[Anonymous No.15022817]

Later this month, probably near the end of the month, I'll be exceptionally silly and be going through everyone's profile, 200+ members, and seeing what their favorite books are and making it a list and then a bookshelf. Maybe someone will even make it into a chart. Hopefully this bookshelf will be helpful as the members here are theoretically at least mildly similar to each other in their taste .
Please rate your favorite books if you haven't, or provide a recommended books shelf. If you need to add them, I'd appreciate it if you did so as well.
Thank you for cooperation with helping each other.

[Anonymous No.15022833]

>>15021199
hyperion - 4 book series long read but i think the ending pays off can be tedious at times
seven eves - i love this book, modern setting sci fi really recommend it

[Anonymous No.15022861]

>>15022799
Fuck Adare.

[Anonymous No.15022872]

>>15022833
>seven eves
>delta v the novel
No.

[Anonymous No.15022887]

>>15022861
she really stopped me from loving it, i still can't conceive how she was actually supposed to be a protagonist.

[Anonymous No.15022941]

>>15022861
Based.
>>15022887
I can’t believe the author thought that was a good character arc for her. What a trainwreck of a character.

[Anonymous No.15023009]

>>15021465
so that was a fucking lie

[Anonymous No.15023018]

Recc me some highbrow sf.

[Anonymous No.15023024]

>>15022817
are you going to add the star ratings or count the number of time the book was listed?

[Anonymous No.15023052]

>>15023018
Eon by Greg Bear

[Anonymous No.15023074]

/sffg/, I've come to realize that there are two kinds of people in this world: those who find inspiration in these dark times and were always destined for greatness and those who collapse in on themselves and were only meant for mediocrity. The virus has shown me the kind of loser I really am. At this point I might as well just go around licking doorknobs because whether I survive this or die I'll end up having the same effect on the world

[Anonymous No.15023171]

Recommend me some feminist fantasy.

[Anonymous No.15023572]

Anyone else had a phase where they felt extremely butt hurt about peter Jackson doing the slightest of changes to the story when transforming the lotr books to movies as if there is no difference between the story telling of film and movies?

[Anonymous No.15023594]

>>15021906
Lyonesse although admittedly there's a gigantic downer in the first book.

[Anonymous No.15023633]

>>15023572
i used to want strict adaptations but it's impossible when you change formats. a basically faithful adaptation is the best you can get.

[Anonymous No.15023675]

>>15023572
No, I never once considered that missing a scene about bacon and mushrooms was some great loss. I'm yet to see an adaption of a fantasy book that is more faithful than Peter Jackson's LOTR trilogy. It captured the general spirit and tone of the books, and didn't go off the path too much. Though I am very glad PJ relented on some his ideas, like having Arwen be the leader of the elven soldiers at Helms Deep, or having Aragorn fight Sauron instead of that troll in the battle at the black gates.

After looking at things like the Witcher or Game of Thrones, it's safe to say that Peter Jackson did a pretty good job, it's obvious now it could have been an absolute shitshow like those two.

[Anonymous No.15023724]

>>15023675
My issues were more about things like making arwen instead of glorfindel save Frodo or putting elves at helmes deep though I now understand why Jackson did that, show,not tell and all.

[Anonymous No.15023765]

>>15023171
Ninth House by Leigh Bardugo

>>15023018
Dune by Frank Herbert

Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu

Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. LeGuin

2001 series (2001, 2010, 2061, 3001) by Arthur C. Clarke

[Anonymous No.15023860]

Just finished the black company while the first few book were good, i found it pretty average once they start going to kathovar.

Any fantasy recommendation ?

[Anonymous No.15023898]

I don't read much sci fi or fantasy but I've just watched Astartes and I really enjoyed the warhammer 40k setting. Is Horus Heresy a good place to start or is there a chart or something else?

[Anonymous No.15023926]

>>15021037
why, my peenus weanus of course :)

hahah! :D

it's my weeeeeenus peanus :) hahah

Some most important thing - my answer is, of course, my peanus weenus :D

hahaha!

[Anonymous No.15024003]

>>15023171
Earthsea.

[Anonymous No.15024090]

>>15023898
people talked about this 1 or 2 threads ago, go back and have a look link to old threads in op

[Anonymous No.15024238]

>>15024090
Cheers buddy

[Anonymous No.15024249]

>>15021310
>>15021360
>>15021630
Thanks I'll look into these

[Anonymous No.15024289]

Just finished the Robot series by Asimov, any other books with friendship between humans and robots?

[Anonymous No.15024330]

>>15023724
Arwen had to save the Hobbits or she would have been such a literal who at the end of it all for many viewers.

[Anonymous No.15024419]

>>15024003
>Feminist fantasy
>Has almost exclusively male protagonists for the first 3 books and one female sidekick
>Doesn't have anything to do with the life experiences of women until book 4 which is a side story only loosely connected to the original plot

[Anonymous No.15024518]

Read "Forever war" and found it very enjoyable. Are there more good books with the military-industrial complex theme?

[Anonymous No.15024853]

im looking for a novel that has star citizen vibes
any recs?

[Anonymous No.15024908]

>>15024853
The Winds of Winter

[Anonymous No.15024929]

>>15023675
>Aragorn fight Sauron instead of that troll in the battle at the black gates
Missed out on some real good vs. evil -kino

[Anonymous No.15024938]

>>15024853
The Doors of Stone

[Anonymous No.15024945]

>>15024908
Sensible chuckle

[Anonymous No.15024979]

>>15024853
trading in danger

[Anonymous No.15025244]

>>15024419
It is feminist fantasy though.

[Anonymous No.15025284]

>>15019856
What are YOU currently reading/looking forward to, bros?

[Anonymous No.15025404]

>>15025284
is this a website?
which one is it?
ive been using goodreads and the rss feeds of pirate sites to keep up with new book releases but it can be unreliable. especially goodreads is really shit when it comes to book releases.

[Anonymous No.15025460]

>>15025404
Yeah, its a website with all the current/upcoming releases. Can even sort it by (fantasy) genre) and formts. Its quite handy and helps me find a lot of new books.

https://www.fantasticfiction.com/genres/?gp=F

[Anonymous No.15025484]

>>15025460
thanks a bunch anon.

[Anonymous No.15025658]

>oh boy, it's been at least five pages since I've last mentioned how I went looking for Denna to no avail
>let me tell you about it again
>and again
>and again
>and again
And the entire second half of this book was just so fucking bad, what with Felurian training Kvothe in the "art of sex" and nearly all the women from that point on wanting to fuck him. This shit is fanfiction tier, how can people take it seriously?

[Anonymous No.15025693]

>>15025284
The unwilling sounds like a kino rape fantasy.

[Anonymous No.15025704]

>>15025658
>how can people take it seriously?
They don't. Wise man's fear was shit.

[Anonymous No.15025722]

>>15021725
You don't understand what cultivation is.

[Anonymous No.15025725]

Someone else here mentioned reading this the other day.
It was fun enough but about 20-30% too long for the story it was telling/number of scenes it had.

[Anonymous No.15025898]

Is gravity's rainbow considered sci fi?

[Anonymous No.15025920]

>>15025898
it's historical fiction :)

[Anonymous No.15025924]

Reading through this right now, what the fuck was he thinking? I was actually enjoying these books until this.

[Anonymous No.15025960]

>>15025924
plebfiltered

[Anonymous No.15025985]

>>15025244
OP isn't denying that.

[Anonymous No.15025996]

>>15025960
I'm halfway through and feel like I'm just reading a series of short stories because of the time-jumping nonsense.

[Anonymous No.15026112]

>>15023024
The easiest way would be for everyone to export their list and send it to me, but it's not something I'm counting on.
It doesn't seem like it will be a simple copypasting job either since the stars don't seem to be easily copied.
The exact details are to be seen. If it an exported list isn't provided, then probably will be only the most liked.

[Anonymous No.15026336]

Imagine writing a book and it's cover looks like this.

[Anonymous No.15026386]

>>15026336
Looks pretty based.

[Anonymous No.15026447]

>>15025658
>This shit is fanfiction tier
You haven't read enough fanfiction. A lot of it is a lot less egregious than this.

[Anonymous No.15026451]

>>15024853
>>15025924
A Pitiless Rain.

[Anonymous No.15026463]

>>15026386
based? based on what?

[Anonymous No.15026468]

>>15025284
>Deverry 2
Is this shit still going? Is it any good?
>The Unwilling
I started reading this a week or so ago, it's really slow and lacks compelling characters. Don't get fooled by the premise, this seems to be a limp dick of a novel.
>Eric Vall
We need to talk about this entity.

[Anonymous No.15026470]

>>15026463
Based on a cuck simp.

[Anonymous No.15026492]

Are there any fantasy books that are pre-medieval?

[Anonymous No.15026511]

>>15026492
>man wears loincloth
>woman wears nothing
He shouldn't be wearing anything either.

[Anonymous No.15026512]

>>15026492
yes there's tonnes of fantasy set in greek, roman, arthurian, egyptian etc etc settings

[Anonymous No.15026544]

>>15026492
THICC

[Anonymous No.15026552]

>>15026511
There's actually a very good reason in the story he is and she is not, she was taking a bath when the big snake attacked and the guy happened to be close by and helped her. Another reason is that despite you wanting to see dick I can't post any without being banned but a woman's bare buttocks is fine.

[Anonymous No.15026598]

>>15026512
I guess I was more thinking about barbaric fantasy, like Conan or whatever but not sword and sorcery. I really want to read a book that captures the mystery that the world must have held to more tribal people. Of uncivilised pastoral societies but with very fantastical elements.

Fantasy that takes inspiration from ancient Greece, Egypt and such don't do that and doesn't get away from the usual stuff you'd find in a medieval or rather more often pseudo-medieval settings.

[Anonymous No.15026638]

What books are you recommending to the Goodreads group? Post your shelves and make fun of mine and other peoples' shelves.

[Anonymous No.15026648]

Oops I can't into screenshots. Here's the real image.

[Anonymous No.15026655]

>>15026648
okay I give up

[Anonymous No.15026723]

>>15026598
imaro's Conan but african
spirit walker was for kids but it's caveman fantasy
didn't like it much but r.a. salvatore's latest series is indigenous people albeit with a normal fantasy world surrounding them

[Anonymous No.15026728]

>>15022817
>Please rate your favorite books if you haven't,
shan't be doing this

[Anonymous No.15026855]

>>15026723
>indigenous people
Indigenous to what? I'm thinking that I'll probably have to go to sword and sorcery even if I wanted something more substantial than that. Now with the quarantine I really wanted some primordial and savage fantasy and while I don't want to be rude those recs aren't it.

[Anonymous No.15026942]

Is Royal Assassin a lot better than Assassin's Apprentice? I found it kinda underwhelming, no real hook to continue. I do kinda like the writing.

[Anonymous No.15026959]

Just finished this. Really good book, quite heavy on the science but it is all explained well. If you are interested in quantum mechanics you will enjoy it.

About to start the second book in the series, Quatum Void.

[Anonymous No.15027045]

>>15026598
like hunter gatherer stuff?
Shaman by Robinson
all those Jean M Auel books I guess

[Anonymous No.15027136]

>>15027045
>Shaman by Robinson
This seems really neat actually, thanks anon. His Mars books were kind of a slog but I got through them anyway due to the compelling premise and Martian porn.

[Anonymous No.15027300]

Why do people have such a hardon for book of the new sun?
It started off great, but the inconsistencies were too much.
Suddenly Severian enters a painting, hes trapped, a door suddenly forms in the wall, hes lost, a staircase appears out of nowhere, takea him outside, no its an enclosed courtyard
Just random things in an incomprehensible world with no rules

[Anonymous No.15027331]

>>15027300
Filtered.

[Anonymous No.15027463]

>>15027300
It is a meme book. Everyone recommends it just because every one recommends it.

[Anonymous No.15027467]

>>15027300
Those things are explained later on

[Anonymous No.15027472]

>>15027300
just you wait bro it's totally worth it when after 800 pages the protag goes "lol I was making shit up"
mindblowing stuff

[Anonymous No.15027520]

>>15027136
>Dances With Magical Not!Native Americans
Can Fantasy writers ever create an original invented culture instead of using trite and clunky historical and racial metaphors?

[Anonymous No.15027536]

>>15027520
yes

[Anonymous No.15027547]

>>15027520
>Native Americans
Indians, they aren't native to the land and America didn't exist before the colonists founded it.

[Anonymous No.15027570]

>>15027547
Do Americans really?

[Anonymous No.15027601]

>>15027547
The state of Americlap education.
>gravity didn't exist before newton discovered

[Anonymous No.15027640]

I hope Andrea Parsneau chan stays safe from Corona-kun. I won't be able to have my books if she gets the coof.

[Anonymous No.15027645]

/sffg/, I just tried to join a writing group but the whole prospect made me too anxious to follow through. I'm not sure what to do anymore. I'm not sure if I'm a real writer anymore, or if I ever was to begin with. I just don't feel any more hope

[Anonymous No.15027678]

>>15027601
There was no nation there and the savages that at the time lived there didn't call their continent America, I'm pretty sure they didn't have maps. 'Native American' is completely incorrect as a term. Their people migrated out of Asia and killed the native people that lived there before them, or at least from what I recall they were indigenous, they could have migrated there too.

[Anonymous No.15027714]

>>15027678
Omg anon please tell me you are just pretending to be retarded?

The are native the the land, just because it wasn't called America before it was discovered by other people doesn't mean they aren't native.

[Anonymous No.15027748]

>>15027645
personally i think as a writer u must have high self-esteem or be narcissistic to succeed

[Anonymous No.15027783]

>>15027714
Native as in being the first there and adapted to the environment? No. Native as having been born there? I guess, but then your average Amerimutt is a 'native american' too and again the term doesn't make much sense. Honestly, you have a very euro-centric view on this, as if the world was in stasis before the colonists arrived there. Either refer to the specific people you're talking about or just call them indians if you don't care.

[Anonymous No.15027816]

>>15027783
Pls stop.

[Anonymous No.15027838]

>>15027748
Not necessarily. Kafka had rock bottom self-esteem and burned 90% his works in shame

[Anonymous No.15027843]

>>15027816
No, because it makes no sense to call brown asian squatters 'native american'.

[Anonymous No.15027849]

>>15027838
"to succeed" is the key to that anon's post most types like that i.e. kafka, toole, melville only found fame after death

[Anonymous No.15027917]

what are some good sci-fi books which have very strong/interesting characters?

[Anonymous No.15028012]

What reading app do you guys use to read? I only have my phone to read on

[Anonymous No.15028109]

>>15028012
readera on my phone/tablet.
sumatra pdf on windows.
lector on loonix.

[Anonymous No.15028133]

>>15025722
Literally training.

[Anonymous No.15028286]

>>15027917
Vorkosigan is probably the apex of character driven scifi or at least the easiest example to go with. First two books are about an outsider entering into a highly aristocratic and patriarchal culture and then the Miles books are more of a personal journey but again from the perspective of someone who doesn't fit into any rigid societal role.
I'd argue for The Culture too, so much of that series is about humans grappling with their purposelessness

[Anonymous No.15028299]

>>15028012
Nothing beats a physical book

[Anonymous No.15028317]

>>15028012
I couldn't get on with any apps always gave me eyestrain/headaches, probably not the best time for pricing with the lockdown and all but I'd suggest getting even a cheap second hand ereader if you don't want to buy/borrow books

[Anonymous No.15028373]

>>15028012
ReadEra on my phone. but others are good, i just like switching things up when i get a new phone so that the new phone feels new.
(also books. calibre on my pc. ancient kindle keyboard. ibooks rarely on my ipad.)

[Anonymous No.15028538]

Still searching for a novel I read in highschool more than a decade ago.

MC is a man in a dying tribe who are one of many different sentient species who hunt each other to eat. I think meat is their only food source. He ends up on a journey of course and encounters many hostile races. Its post apocalyptic sort of setting with dilapidated cities.

I remember a satellite crashing, a journey on a river of carnivorous aquatic folk, a skeleton-esque race with maybe four arms that they eat and tastes "sweet". I believe the ending is the MC saving his love interest by sending her off world in an escape pod and it turns out the whole thing is either a reality show or how the various races of the universe settle disputes/wars.

It's not Acts of Caine as I've read that as well.

[Anonymous No.15028591]

>>15026468
>>The Unwilling
The book is probably based on the premise that you the reader will be an unwilling participant in finishing it.

[Anonymous No.15028866]

>>15020357
The only Israeli genre authors I've read have mainly worked with science fiction IIRC.

I recall hearing there's also a issue with either Hebrew or Yiddish where like 60 years ago they did a French-style "the proper way to spell it is this way" restructuring and a lot of terms that would suit fantasy books would have to use old, outdated "bible times" spellings that most modern people wouldn't know.

>A Song of Fire and Ice...two volumes of the series came out to such a small following that publishing the third volume was in doubt.

Malazan didn't do well when translated into Japanese, only the first 3-4 books were released.

[Anonymous No.15028873]

>>15028538
>MC is a man
dropped

[Anonymous No.15028887]

Anyone ever read a book about a guy who goes back in time in like a Volkswagen I think and ends up having sex with one of the monkey people I can’t for the life of me remember the name of the book

[Anonymous No.15028948]

This ended up being pretty rad.

[Anonymous No.15028986]

>>15028012
Smart Audiobook

>>15028538
Hiero's Journey?

[Anonymous No.15029092]

>>15028948
I've only read the first two Starhawk books by her but those are pretty great imo

[Anonymous No.15029197]

>>15028986
>Smart Audiobook
>not Voice
fucking pleb

[Anonymous No.15029384]

>>15029197
>not using mortplayer audiobooks
It's like you want people to know what you're reading.

[Anonymous No.15029769]

>>15020668
>skipping the book of the new sun

[Anonymous No.15029817]

>>15028948
a wizard and a bag of chips. idk what more you could ask for. (actually now i want a bag of chips.)

[Anonymous No.15029915]

>>15028866
I don't even know how the fuck you would translate Malazan into Japanese. That series would turn into absolute, incomprehensible word salad if you tried to cram it into Japanese syntax.

[Anonymous No.15029938]

>>15029817
>now i want a bag of chips
Too bad you can't leave the house.

[Anonymous No.15029987]

>>15029915
>implying it isn't already absolute, incomprehensible word salad in English

I remember a bunch of shit about women fucking fresh male corpses to make cursed demon babies, a guy who cut off toes and wore them as a necklace, an ancient order of lesbian nuns who had orgies together in their convent, a guy getting his hands cut off, an ancient incest cult, lots and lots of rape and sexual slavery, an annoying ass character who talked to himself and referred to himself in the third person all the time, and a mass crucifixion.

The details were memorable, but you actually need a fucking four-page summary to piece together the main plot. Is this because, as the series' defenders claim, it's too brainy and cerebral to make a good publisher's elevator pitch - or is it because the entire series across all ten or however many books is a massive, bloated, tangled and self-indulgent mess?

[Anonymous No.15029998]

how was your night /sffg/? I tried making PioPio's chicken again and might have actually done worse than the first time

[Anonymous No.15030013]

>>15029987
It's because the series is a bunch of cool ideas crammed together with the plot never being more than the afterthought. It's a Michael Bay movie in book form, lots of cool setpieces but no substance.

[Anonymous No.15030020]

>>15028873
>A classic case of white male protagonism

[Anonymous No.15030149]

What kind of popular tropes will spring up in the 2020's for sf/f? I believe a previous thread mentioned animal races. I guess that means more furry mcs?

[Anonymous No.15030193]

>>15030149
Furries are popular in manga and comics these days, so fantasy seems like the logical next step. Not that there aren’t plenty of anthro races already. Cat-people aliens especially are a perennial favorite if you need a quick and easy non-human alien or fantasy race in your novel.

[Anonymous No.15030203]

>>15030149
Hopefully “woke” fantasy starts to dwindle away. Worst publishing trend of the 2010s.

[Anonymous No.15030241]

>>15030203
Seems unlikely.

[Anonymous No.15030251]

>>15030193
I've noticed that as well but they are typically just accessories or side characters and never is the main character one of these races. Personally I would like to see more non-human mcs.
>>15030203
Is gender-bender a woke trope?

[Anonymous No.15030509]

what compilation books do you guys reccomend from older sci-fi authors like Harlan ellison, Isaac asimov, and HG wells.

[Anonymous No.15030800]

>>15026942
Yes. I find Hobb's books consistently get better later on, with assassins apprentice and that whole trilogy being the weakest.

[Anonymous No.15030847]

Recommended me the most shlocky, pulpy, and epic male power fantasy books that you guys can find.

I want something to excite my quarantined brain.

[Anonymous No.15030849]

>>15029998
I finished a book, mapping out stuff for the rest of the month before I go to bed.

[Anonymous No.15030856]

>>15030800
Well the whole trilogy being weak isn't very motivating, but I will give it a try.

[Anonymous No.15030965]

>>15030847
You've read Tamer ?

[Anonymous No.15031653]

>>15021037
Charlie Bone

[Anonymous No.15031675]

>>15021199
From BotNS: Book of the Long Sun and Short Sun are very good. Pretty much everything by Wolfe is great to be honest. If you want to look further afield then Hyperion or Too Like the Lightning are a bit Wolfe-esc.

From Blindsight: read Echopraxia then re-read Blindsight lol. Otherwise maybe The Thing Itself by Adam Roberts or Accelerado. Or as >>15021441 suggested Three Body trilogy are terrific and very compatible with Blindsight

[Anonymous No.15031681]

>>15024518
Enders Game?

[Anonymous No.15031691]

>>15025284
The final book in Palmer's Terra Ignota is meant to be release this year. Suppose I'll read that when it's out.

[Anonymous No.15031700]

Re-reading this right now. So fucking good!

[Anonymous No.15031708]

>>15031700
I haven't seen this cover, bit heavy-handed on the vampiric implication

[Anonymous No.15031720]

>>15031708
Yup.

Cover-wise, I just love that it's looking up at Theseus, Siri, etc. Superb read, and Watts' plans on his website are also pretty amazing. This particular bastardization of the cover isn't great tho.

[Anonymous No.15031882]

>>15029987
It was ten big books, so that doesn't sound like a lot of strange shit to happen within those 7000 pages (and some of the things you enumerated attend even that crazy).

[Anonymous No.15032360]

>>15031720
Yeah Watts is a badboy. You read Echopraxia, or his new one Freeze Frame Revolution?

[Anonymous No.15032388]

>>15020357

Jews are hylecs confirmed

[Anonymous No.15032467]

>>15031708
Have you seen this one?

[Anonymous No.15032574]

>>15030013

Yes

[Anonymous No.15032768]

>reading Starship Troopers
>have read Stranger in a Strange Land, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Time Enough for Love, Revolt in 2100 and Methuselah's Children
>literally every character is the same
I kinda enjoy Heinlein's writing but he seem to be incapable of writing more than a single protagonist. Is there anything I can read if I want some variation?

[Anonymous No.15033636]

After seeing that sperg scream about e william brown for the past few weeks I decided to give his books a try. Are there any books like Daniel Black? I never had a book trigger this urge to see things built. The sex scenes were stupid and corny, and the way women threw their vaginas at our protagonist to secure survival believable. But the crafting of buildings, items, and persons just made me realize that I may be a little autistic and like organised and well structured thing.
I also gave his Alice Long book a try and it slightly scratched my itch because it too had crafting, but that was scifi and I want more fantasy. I never read a book where someone made a building in a night, it made me feel like a little kid because you know the months it would take to build a building half that size. It made me feel like magic was real, it made my imagination tingle, it had me wanting more. It's a shame that the author felt he had to put all that smut in his books, it seemed to ease off as the series progressed, but it being there in the first place would turn away many a potential reader, who I think too will also catch this "building fever".

Any recommendations for magical: crafting, engineering, building, experimenting? That apes the Daniel Black series well thought out way of writing?

[Anonymous No.15033697]

>>15030847
Eragon. The most cliched male-centric hero's journey fantasy you can imagine with the few major female characters mostly serving as sidekicks or support.

[Anonymous No.15033728]

I need three good sffgs from the past twelve months. No brown-skinned alt people versus the Man plots, pls.

[Anonymous No.15033753]

Hey, any scifi depictions of legal systems? Trying to find something that actually shows a new take on the process. Seems like the law is the only thing in the future that stays the same. Like, I realize the law is always 100 years behind, but this is silly. Even Star Trek just shows a casual hearing. We are on the cusp of a legal revolution with digital meetings, but no one has thought this through enough because lawyers are old fucks.

[Anonymous No.15033767]

I wanna come in Andrea Parsneau so bad my pee pee hurts.

[Anonymous No.15033771]

>>15033753
You've read The Minority Report?

[Anonymous No.15033789]

>>15033753
There is the craft...
Oh.
>any scifi depiction
Yea. I got nothing.

[Anonymous No.15033819]

>>15033771
No, only seen the movie. Does the book cover the trials/hearings of the accused?
>>15033789
Right? It’s interesting. The law is so much like a programming language, yet it seeps itself in archaic processes to give a false sense of superiority and grandeur to the process.

[Anonymous No.15033929]

To the self published fags in sffg. I'm not a fan of Daniel Schinhofen, but how is his Apocalypse Gates series? What is it about?

I'm also tempted to read Harmon Cooper's death mantle, but unless he improved 50 fold and stopped literally self inserting I can't see it. Is the series any good? I know you can't trust Amazon reviews because you have so many readlets who barely read much in their lives comparing the authors to Tolkien and Eddings. The death mantle also won an award, so I'm interested if he improved from that first cherry blossom girl book.

[Anonymous No.15033939]

>>15033819
Try Neal Asher maybe? In the future AIs make the laws that govern the galaxies and have humans enforce it.

[Anonymous No.15033965]

>>15020147
the dark forest was amazing

[Anonymous No.15034037]

>>15033929
>I'm not a fan of Daniel Schinhofen, but how is his Apocalypse Gates series? What is it about?

A bastard version of twitch live-streaming, shitty isekai tropes, and his typical bdsm sex. It started off well enough, but then he introduced his insufferable main girl. A fat goth slut with daddy issues who can’t shut the fuck up about wanting to fuck for a single scene.

If that’s your shit, go for it. If you want something more that “look at my gamebreaking bugs, then it’s back to fat goth bdsm” read something else.

[Anonymous No.15034050]

Jesus christ SFFG look how they MASSACRED my boy!

Atrocious bookcovers should be punished

[Anonymous No.15034090]

>>15033767
I wanna know if she will talk William D Arand into working with Jeff Hayes again, after he got shafted?

[Anonymous No.15034109]

>>15034037
>fat goth slut with daddy issues
Sounds hot tbqh. Is the protagonist girthy? Does he make her oink?

[Anonymous No.15034133]

>>15034050
Last time I went to an actual book store was when I bought that same copy. Never again.

[Anonymous No.15034388]

So outside of Lovecraft's Dream Quest saga what are some other books that deal with the idea that dreams are different planes of existence and all that kind of crazy dream metaphysics?

[Anonymous No.15034622]

>>15032360
Both, they're bonkers. I knew Echopraxia will not be Blindsight 2.0, and yet I started it the second I closed Blindsight... had to leave it on a shelf for a few months, to begin adjusting. Such an inspiring work, damn.

Read The Freeze-Frame Revolution when it came out. If it was any shorter or longer than what it was, it would've probably left a bad taste in my mouth, but it really worked on every level for me.

Badboy indeed.

[Stupid sexy Watts No.15034647]

rifters.com is a fucking treasure trove.

[Stupid sexy Watts No.15034666]

It didn't start out here. Not with the scramblers or Rorschach, not with Big Ben or Theseus or the vampires. Most people would say it started with the Fireflies, but they'd be wrong. It ended with all those things.

For me, it began with Robert Paglino.

At the age of eight, he was my best and only friend. We were fellow outcasts, bound by complementary misfortune. Mine was developmental. His was genetic: an uncontrolled genotype that left him predisposed to nearsightedness, acne, and (as it later turned out) a susceptibility to narcotics. His parents had never had him optimized. Those few TwenCen relics who still believed in God also held that one shouldn't try to improve upon His handiwork. So although both of us could have been repaired, only one of us had been.

I arrived at the playground to find Pag the center of attention for some half-dozen kids, those lucky few in front punching him in the head, the others making do with taunts of mongrel and polly while waiting their turn. I watched him raise his arms, almost hesitantly, to ward off the worst of the blows. I could see into his head better than I could see into my own; he was scared that his attackers might think those hands were coming up to hit back, that they'd read it as an act of defiance and hurt him even more. Even then, at the tender age of eight and with half my mind gone, I was becoming a superlative observer.

But I didn't know what to do.

I hadn't seen much of Pag lately. I was pretty sure he'd been avoiding me. Still, when your best friend's in trouble you help out, right? Even if the odds are impossible—and how many eight-year-olds would go up against six bigger kids for a sandbox buddy?—at least you call for backup. Flag a sentry. Something.

I just stood there. I didn't even especially want to help him.

That didn't make sense. Even if he hadn't been my best friend, I should at least have empathized. I'd suffered less than Pag in the way of overt violence; my seizures tended to keep the other kids at a distance, scared them even as they incapacitated me. Still. I was no stranger to the taunts and insults, or the foot that appears from nowhere to trip you up en route from A to B. I knew how that felt.

Or I had, once.

But that part of me had been cut out along with the bad wiring. I was still working up the algorithms to get it back, still learning by observation. Pack animals always tear apart the weaklings in their midst. Every child knows that much instinctively. Maybe I should just let that process unfold, maybe I shouldn't try to mess with nature. Then again, Pag's parents hadn't messed with nature, and look what it got them: a son curled up in the dirt while a bunch of engineered superboys kicked in his ribs.

[Anonymous No.15034751]

>>15034050
This is the french cover for snow crash.

[Anonymous No.15034852]

What a time to be alive. America will use this pandemic to strengthen it's hold on it's people. Don't feel your curfew will ne going away anytime soon. The spooks were praying for something like this to happen so they could take advantage.

[Anonymous No.15034894]

>>15034852
No doubt that most the governments are gonna use this epidemic as a test to see how much they can get away with before people start turning against them, and with the current state of things it's very likely they're gonna be able to get away with pretty much everything.

[Anonymous No.15035004]

>>15034894
Well Brazil is calling it global fake news that wants to divide Brazilians. Some pm in Hungary or something is putting steps and laws in place that he becomes PM for life.
It's like I'm reading scifi in real life. Just have to wait for the police and army to start raping any girl that catches their fancy.
There is no hero, nor any aliens to us. We will regress back into individual states and countries, and ww3 will start when the guys with plenty of guns sees the farmers without lush bounty.

I just want to read these shit, not live them.

[Anonymous No.15035122]

When reading the lotr books for the first time in my own language I got really angry at Peter Jackson around the part of the battle for the pelennor fields. It said that Merry slayed the witch king without any actions from Eowyn and I thought that jackson had only granted the killing blow to eowyn due to modern sensibilities
Then I read the english translation and it turns out the swedish translator had been very liberal in his translation and even removed eowyn's role in the killing of the witch king. Tolkien happened to be fluent in swedish and didn't like this translation for some reason which led to a rather one sided feud between him and the swedish translator for the rest of their lives.
Among other things the translator, whose name was Åke Ohlmarks if anyone wonder, would enter the tolkien's house without permission and read Ronald's personal notes, write a book where he accused tolkien and the swedish tolkien society of practicing black magic and having ties to the nazis and the ku klux klan among other things and blamed tolkien because ohlmark's wife had accidentally started a fire while smoking in their bed.

[Anonymous No.15035186]

Fuxk Peter Jackson and fuck e william brown

[Anonymous No.15035200]

>>15035186
based

[Anonymous No.15035202]

>>15034109
No and no. She’s hypersensitive about being a fatass.

[Anonymous No.15035368]

Does urban fantasy have anything to offer that isn't utterly cridge inducing? Or do I embrace the cheese?

[Anonymous No.15035387]

Any space operas similar to Battlestar Galactica (2004 version) ?

[Anonymous No.15035538]

whatever happened to birdboi

[Anonymous No.15035551]

>>15030800
No. Rain Wild is the worst, it’s garbage

[Anonymous No.15035570]

>>15035387
Dune series.

[Anonymous No.15035622]

>>15035368
Title and blurb sound so bad I didn't try picking it up even though I'm desperately starved for cultivation stories.

[Anonymous No.15035699]

>>15035368
Urban fantasy is 50% "Sexy Wiccan Gothic Vampires From Hell" cheesefests and 50% books that are incorrecty marketed as such.

If you want good or at least passable urban fantasy, avoid anything by Charlaine Harris or Laurell K. Hamilton, but do read:
>Silk series by Caitlin R. Kiernan (early books are a victim of mis-marketing; don't be fooled by the cheesy edgelord cover art)
>Moonlight by Charles de Lindt
>King Rat by China Mieville
>Kraken by China Mieville
>Demons by John Shirley
>Nod by Adrian Barnes
>The Dirty Streets of Heaven by Tad Williams
>Good Omens by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman
>Vicious by V.E. Schwab

[Anonymous No.15035775]

>>15035699
Thanks anon. Will check out. Tried reading a Dresden file book and just couldn't get over the poor writing and the fact that Harry Dresden is the epitome of what a basement dwelling virgin would consider cool.

[Anonymous No.15035847]

>Short Sun: Green’s Jungles
>Teleporting into The Duko’s palace
>Duko mentions Nessus

Holy fuck lads I exploded

[Anonymous No.15035854]

>>15035775
The writing got better with each book, but to each his own.

>>15035699
>Tad Williams
>Terry Pratchett
hope.

[Anonymous No.15035998]

>>15035368
I liked Night Watch. A lot of others...embrace the cheese.

[Anonymous No.15036009]

>>15035699
>>15035854
Bobby Dollar was sub-par Tad Williams.

[Anonymous No.15036433]

Gonna take the leap bros. I've got a manuscript written up to a 3rd Draft. Once my beta readers get over it I'm going to go around and query literary agents. Never thought I'd get this far, but I'm excited. Wish me luck

[Anonymous No.15036608]

>>15036433
>Actually follows through with his dreams
Good shit anon, remember there's always self publishing through amazon if you can't get in through a publisher.

[Anonymous No.15036661]

>>15036009
Nobody should be reading tad Williams or authors with the name Terry.

[Anonymous No.15036671]

>>15036661
I thoroughly enjoyed Otherworld.

[Anonymous No.15036705]

>>15036671
It was called Otherland.

[Anonymous No.15036710]

>>15036661
All of Tad Williams' female characters have the exact same internal monologue of being super judgy and grossed out by men.

[Anonymous No.15036719]

>>15036705
One of them things, yeah. It's over 20 years old now. Me too.

[Anonymous No.15036736]

>>15035368
Coyote Kings of the Space Age Bachelor Pad by Minister Faust. Urban fantasy with a sitcom vibe about two geeky black Canadian roommates getting tangled up in ancient prophecies and weird supernatural shit.

[Anonymous No.15036745]

>>15034751
>The virtual samurai
Well, that's not wrong

[Anonymous No.15036758]

>>15035368
Knights of Breton Court. Urban fantasy/urban fiction genre hybrid. Retelling of King Arthur with modern day gang warfare.

[Anonymous No.15036853]

>..I guess he really was "the magician's apprentice"
I can't take books where the title of the book is oh so quirkily hidden someone in the passages.

[Anonymous No.15037270]

>>15033636
The Sword of the Bright Lady series is about a middle aged engineer getting sent to fantasyland and teaching the peasants how to build breach loading rifles and cannons so they can blast the nobility off their horses. It's more adventure focused to some extent though, like IIRC one of the subplots is him doing some stuff to get the cabal of bards to tell him how to make fulminating mercury for cartridge primers so he can stop using runes for them.

The Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson maybe.

The Bobiverse series will probably get recommended but I hated it. Atrocious writing.

[Anonymous No.15037346]

>>15037270
Oh, it's pretty indie (author refuses to sell on Amazon) but the second Commonweal book by Greydon Saunders is about building a house.

[Anonymous No.15037514]

I can't even enjoy reading any more /sffg/. This all sucks so much

[Anonymous No.15037628]

>>15036433
Good luck anon. I want to read it someday.

[Anonymous No.15037650]

>>15035368
Vurt - Jeff Noon
Last Call - Tim Powers
Zod Wallop

[Anonymous No.15037663]

Trying to remember the name of a book I read:

Science Fiction
Came out before 2005
Most of the story takes place in a military academy/testing center?
Trying to make the soldiers stronger faster and more agile
Final third of the novel the experiment works just as they are attacked
Final bit of the novel is them in action in a city

[Anonymous No.15037705]

>>15032768
read someone else 2bh

[Anonymous No.15038148]

>>15037663
Maybe it's universal soldiers the novelization.

[Anonymous No.15038803]

Brainlet who doesn’t read anymore, but used to read a shit ton of YA Pulp as a kid here (favorite books were the works of William Sleator, A Wrinkle in Time and The Silver Sequence).

Can I get a recommendation for a book that is an easy read (in terms of prose/length) so that I can exercise my attention span and build up my comprehension so I can read more?

I don’t care if the book is cliche or silly, I value fun/interesting concepts and worlds right now more than anything else. I’m cool with either science fiction or fantasy, but if it is fantasy I want something different than your standard Tolkien fare (much more interested in weird shit like Oz or Fantasia from The Neverending Story).

[Anonymous No.15038895]

>>15038803
Try the Powder Mage series by Brian Mclellan.

[Anonymous No.15038906]

>>15038803
Philip K Dick is mostly an easy read with interesting ideas. A scanner darkly or do androids dream... are good starting points

If you want something more recent, borne by Jeff vandermeer is fairly short

[Anonymous No.15038914]

>>15038895
>>15038906
Thank you frens

[Anonymous No.15038958]

>>15035368
I recently read Differently Morphous by Yahtzee, not sure if that's the kind of book you're after as it's more of a comedy, grey bureaucracy and satire on social justice combined with lovecraftian horrors and magic, but I thought it was pretty good.

[Anonymous No.15039055]

Ever since I was 10 years old I've had this autistic saga of stories in my head about Sci-Fi super heroes that travel across the galaxy wearing PowerRanger armor and fighting/conquering each other in order to fuck one another's harem of THICK alien bitches.

Every time I go to write it, my brain locks up and the words that come out are all retarded.

Where do I get started?

[Anonymous No.15039100]

>>15039055
Outline as much as possible. Don’t focus on the micro level. Who are your characters? Think about individual scenes from your fantasy you must get to, how do you get to them? What happens after? After you build the plan it gets easier to get into it properly.

[Anonymous No.15039109]

>>15039055
That's basically the Valheru plot from Magician except instead of space ships they flew through space on dragons.

[Anonymous No.15039333]

>>15039055
Un-ironically read Star Justice. While its not exactly what you are looking for it is basically the same premise.

[Anonymous No.15039396]

>>15034388
Bumping, also interested

[Anonymous No.15039418]

So, the question of 2020 - will Kaladin cuck Adolin and fuck Shallan in Stormlight Archive Book 4?

[Anonymous No.15039631]

Is there any translated wuxia/xianxia that isn't a web novel?

Interested in the genre/chinese approach to fantasy but I've really had enough of web novels

[Anonymous No.15039722]

>>15039631
Water Margin

[Anonymous No.15039753]

>>15039333
Who's your favorite girl, anon? I like Zea in the early books and Madalena in the later ones.

[Anonymous No.15039773]

>>15039753
Absolutely Zea. I think Madalena is kind of a cunt. Similar to that mind controlling queen he forces to marry him. also Alana the tomboy is kinda alright.

[Anonymous No.15039841]

>>15039773
She's she's a bit of a cunt I'll give you that. I just like the idea of a submissive warrior wife.

[Anonymous No.15039915]

>>15038803
The emperor's soul by Brandon Sanderson.

[Anonymous No.15039953]

>>15039418
He'd sooner fuck Syl

[Anonymous No.15040351]

>>15038906
>Borne
>Easy read
Pick one and only one

[Anonymous No.15040422]

>>15039055
Start by writing short stories, pick up https://files.catbox.moe/blxjrh.epub and follow it, it will get you started writing.

[Anonymous No.15040545]

>>15040422
>tfw no native gf that will scalp you after you finish coming inside her
Why live?

[Anonymous No.15040606]

>on page 9
We gonna do it this time sffg, we will finally die!

[Anonymous No.15040655]

nEW BREAD
>>15040651
>>15040651
>>15040651

[Anonymous No.15040659]

>>15033929
>I'm also tempted to read Harmon Cooper's death mantle
Don't let his covers fool you. He invests heavily into his book covers to hide the utter shit writing within.

[Anonymous No.15040664]

>>15039100
>>15039109
>>15039333
>>15040422
Thanks bros. I think I'm gonna get started by just forcing myself to write a little each day, and I'll release each "chapter" on Fictionpress.

I'm definitely going to read this "Space Justice" series, because it sounds exactly like what I want to write.

[Anonymous No.15040672]

>>15040655
No you. Let it die. Let us be free.
When sffg dies, then we can walk out our doors and catch corona chan in a loving embrace.

[Anonymous No.15040680]

>>15040655
Ignore, I fucked up.

Waiting for new thread to post in 422 seconds, fuck knows why it is making me wait that long before it posts.

[Anonymous No.15040716]

>>15040664
Don't make your smut cringey. No one likes cringe inducing smut. Also make sure it's believable. Actually talk to women other than your mother so you know how women behave. They aren't like your Japanese cartoons. Real women want, no, need dick, they are just good at pretending they don't. They are also very petty and vapid and like being told they are beautiful. They are also jealous as fuck. So unless you have mind control powers, they will fight (or should, harem authors always portrays them as a fast and furious fAmiLY where they do anything for each other).

[Anonymous No.15040723]

It's up.

New bread
>>15040721
>>15040721
>>15040721

[Anonymous No.15040730]

>>15040680
Because Mr new fag, it stops people from spamming new thread after new thread.