/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14983133]

should i learn latin?

[Anonymous No.14983135]

>>14983133
or greek?

[Anonymous No.14983176]

Neither. Learning any language after English is completely useless.

[Anonymous No.14983192]

>>14983176
>t. monolingual anglo

[Anonymous No.14983194]

>>14983135
Greek, people still actually use it and also it's not too hard to go from modern Greek to ancient or koine for historical texts

[Anonymous No.14983201]

>>14983192
>t. monolingual anglo
And proud. I had the forethought to learn the correct language the first time around.

[Anonymous No.14983314]

>>14983201
You know that the timeline where English is the international language will be over at whatever time, right? It used to be french, now it's English, but the elites are increasingly forcing the Spanish... I hope it changes sooner than later so you anglo scum finally get a taste of your ignorance's drawbacks

[Anonymous No.14983317]

>>14983176
Based monolinguist.

[Anonymous No.14983320]

>>14983314
>the elites are increasingly forcing the Spanish
bullshit.
source.

[Anonymous No.14983322]

>>14983314
>spanish
Yeah the economic powerhouses of Spain and Latin America. If English is to be replaced it will be by Mandarin

[Anonymous No.14983328]

>>14983133
If you want to refine your English and reading skills, yes.

[Anonymous No.14983336]

>>14983320
>bullshit.
>source.
Things brainlets say.

[Anonymous No.14983343]

>>14983314
The people who speak English are the only relevant people in the world. Why would that change? Just look at the 20th century. Every important invention or philosophy? Created by an English speaker.

[OuPi No.14983374]

>>14983133
dpends on what you think to make out of learning it.
>Boredom?
No.
>Wanna purchase a career in the Catholic Church?
Sure
>Philology/Language studies?
Sure.
>Wanna read Latin classics?
Yeah.
>Wanna have sucess and get the secs?
NO.

[Anonymous No.14983377]

>>14983133
I would if I were you anon. Actually I am planning on learning Latin. Does anyone know good learning resources that focus heavily on grammar? Something like Sandberg's French/German for Learning?

[Anonymous No.14983384]

>>14983343
>t. anglo carried by German scientists
OHNONONONONONONONONO

[Anonymous No.14983393]

>>14983377
>checked
Wheellock's

[Anonymous No.14983425]

>>14983322
Better be mandarin and pinyin instead of the standard Chinese characters because those are dumb.

>>14983377
>>14983393
Why learn the grammar but never the language? Try Lingua Latina by hans orberg.

[Anonymous No.14983426]

>>14983377
Wheelock's is grammar-focused, Cambridge is reading-focused, Yale's Learn to Read Latin is very thorough and has both but it's also the hardest and longest by far.

[Anonymous No.14983435]

>>14983336
>can't prove ridiculous claim
>calling them brainlet will surely help

[Anonymous No.14983436]

>>14983426
And there's Lingua Latina, of course, which is purely reading-orientated.

[Anonymous No.14983518]

>>14983133
Greek is better. You will just regret learning an inferior language.

[Anonymous No.14983530]

Lingua Latina then all the books here
http://hiberna-cr.wikidot.com/reading-material

Fuck grammar. Takes too long and it's boring. Learn it later on.

[Anonymous No.14983539]

>>14983530
If you have autism, go the grammar route. Other than that, just keep reading the easy books until you git gud

[Anonymous No.14983549]

>>14983530
Based. Thanks for the link anon.

[Anonymous No.14983556]

>>14983393
>>14983425
>>14983426
>>14983530
Thanks. I think I'll start with Lingua Latina. I'm happy someone translated Julius Caesar into Latin, that's one of my favorite plays

[Anonymous No.14983577]

>>14983530
This.
Extensive reading might be the best method, see (has good arguments for the method and resources for it):
https://indwellinglanguage.com/limen-a-latin-teaching-portal/
If you do intensive reading do it with Cicero (prose) and Vergil (poetry). They're considered the standard Latin stylists.
Also learning Latin is what most people did before Greek. A lot of older Greek textbooks assumed you knew Latin and used Greek-Latin translation.

[Anonymous No.14983601]

>>14983577
What Cicero books are best for newcomers? That's a good idea, learn from the best and then you'll know the proper way to write. I want to write in Latin, I think it's a beautiful language.

[Anonymous No.14983604]

>>14983577
The reason I'm learning Latin in the first place is essentially to read Vergil. Going in order through the major works, I was planning on using him as a tool and motivation

[Anonymous No.14983641]

Latin or Greek first? Native English speaker, only know a bit of Latin and Spanish.

[Anonymous No.14983646]

>>14983601
In Verrem 2, In Catilinam 1, 4, Pro Caelio, De Amicitia, Pro Archia, Some Letters - Bailey

[Anonymous No.14983660]

>>14983641
Latin's probably easier, but you must read Greek texts before Latin ones...

[Anonymous No.14983675]

>>14983646
Based. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.14983686]

>>14983641
Latin because there are more materials for learning Latin than there are for Ancient Greek. There is still no equivalent to Lingua Latina for Ancient Greek though some one is working on one I believe. Since you know a bit of Spanish and probably many Latin words used in English, Latin will be easier for you as well. Once you know Latin or Ancient Greek, the other becomes easier because they some of the grammar is similar. Latin also borrows some words from Ancient Greek.

[Anonymous No.14983729]

>>14983686
This is the reply I was hoping for. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.14983741]

>>14983135
greek is the step after, then farsi and sanskrit

>>14983374
>>Boredom?
>No.
yes, it's boring
>>Wanna purchase a career in the Catholic Church? >>Philology/Language studies? >>Wanna read Latin classics?
>Sure
>Yeah
I hope you are joking lol

[Anonymous No.14983745]

>>14983601
>newcomer
>want to write in Latin
hold on, before you even think about writing you should be able to read latin.

[Anonymous No.14983757]

>>14983745
Shut the fuck up you miserable Redd*t faggot I'll do what I want. "Wanting" something doesn't mean you "want" it immediately, you autistic pig

[Anonymous No.14983767]

>>14983757
cringe, cope
I just gave you an hint, it isn't easy
I won't stop you, you can do anything you want, even if it will be shit lol

[Anonymous No.14983779]

>>14983767
Wait and see faggot. Your mommy will be eating my asshole because of my writing.

[Anonymous No.14983795]

>>14983767
>An hint
You can't even write in English you fucking kebab salesman.

[Anonymous No.14983799]

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[Anonymous No.14983813]

>>14983779
LOL
in a few years you will probably be dead, forgotten by everyone, in a thousand years even your grave will be destroyed by time

>>14983795
yeah, that's all you can do, focusing on a typo error.. you won't go far with this attitude

[Anonymous No.14983853]

>>14983779
>(You)

[Anonymous No.14983870]

>>14983133
>>14983641
>wanted to be a Classics major
>"no, don't do that. you won't find a job"
>get slightly more employable, but less interesting non-STEM degree
>still NEET 2+ years out

[Anonymous No.14983883]

This was such a comfy thread

[Anonymous No.14984016]

OP if you aren't motivated to learn it on your own, it doesn't matter what you "should" do because you won't ever learn it. Best resources are Orberg's LLPSI and Wheelock or Shelmerdine imo. You need a grammatical framework and a ton of comprehensible input. Then get Anki for vocab. I suggest starting with DCC (Dickenson College Commentaries) first 1000 list. Search their site. Once you get better, they also have great commentaries to help you get thru intermediate texts. Also useful are Steadman College Commentaries. Bona fortuna, amice.

Classics PhD here ama I guess

[Anonymous No.14984074]

>>14984016
Did you have a solid Latin/Greek framework before learning in college?
Did you immediate know you wanted to study Classics?
What did you do in your freetime?

[Anonymous No.14984115]

>>14984074
No. Didn't start either until college. Only knew English and Spanish going undergrad.
No. I did computer science until I got better acquainted with Silicone Valley culture and noped the fuck outta there and then switched to physics but everything felt meaningless. Was always interested in history, literature, and philosophy; classics combined them all and it was hard so I liked it. In retrospect, this was a horrible career decision.
Read, write, run, tutor for spare change, spend time with gf. I used to shit post a lot more, before 2016. /lit/ isn't as fun anymore. On it more these past couple of weeks because corona virus.

[Anonymous No.14984223]

>>14984115
>In retrospect, this was a horrible career decision
Yeah, but would you really be happier with the money? You have a PhD now, so that's cool. At least you tried.

I knew English, Spanish, and some self-taught Latin, but was so easily dissuaded from pursuing it. I tried to convince myself and others that it could still be a worthwhile outside of teaching as a distinguishing major for pre-law or pre-med, but I was laughed out of there and did some other dime-a-dozen un-fun degree.

[Anonymous No.14984232]

>>14983322
Last Superbowl all the guest singers were latinxs ;)

[Anonymous No.14984247]

>>14983320
>>14984232
and they sang in spanish. Spanish is a very esoteric language... you wouldn't understand

[Anonymous No.14984351]

>>14984223
Yeah I don't know. Some real money going into this recession/depression would have been convenient, at least. Are you still a student? Doing law or med? I've considered going back for a law degree because academia is dead and teaching high school is crushing

[Anonymous No.14984354]

>>14984247
Based!

[Anonymous No.14984427]

>>14984351
I'm this guy:
>>14983870