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1000 iq book pairings

>> No.14981456

>>14981452
Take a picture of taoteching chapter 1 and I’ll tell you if that translation is worth a dam

>> No.14981462

>>14981452
The Crito and The book of Job
The Aeneid and Acts

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>>14981452

>> No.14981478

>both translations
:/

>> No.14981483

>>14981452
Ah, you just started reading then? naru hodo, naru hodo.

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>>14981456
I have a couple others but I like this one for favoring accuracy over prose. I don't always read the commentary but it's nice sometimes.

I actually met the man who made this translation, he held a seminar about his research in China and I was impressed by him. He had plenty to be proud of, but was utterly humble and unpretentious. But here's the kicker: I hadn't even known that he had translated the Tao, I ended up buying his translation out of research into what translations I wanted and only later realized it was the dude whose seminar I'd went to. Puts a nice little spice on the whole thing

>> No.14981497

>>14981485
Very cool

>> No.14981508

>>14981485
I’ve been reading through a lot of translations and it’s really incredible how much they differ. Like you I wanted a literal word for word translation, but I was keen on accuracy to the point of even sacrificing good or “understandable” prose. Ran across this interesting site (https://www.centertao.org/essays/tao-te-ching/carl/)) and this first chapter kinda blew me away

The way possible to think, runs counter to the constant way.
The name possible to express runs counter to the constant name.
Without description, the universe began.
Of the describable universe, the origin.
Hence, normally without desire so as to observe its wonder.
Normally having desire so as to observe its boundary.
These two are the same coming out, yet differ in name.
The same, meaning dark and mysterious.
Dark and dark again, the multitude of wondrous entrance.

>> No.14981521

>>14981452
>spake
Kek

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choo choooooo

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>>14981452
The basis of spinoza's pantheism with the understanding of biological drives serves to give a good indication of our place in relation to God and the rest of life. Add to that the process of gradual evolution impacts spinoza's conception of man being all alike as wrong as man like all life is separated relatively not discretely and therefore ethnonationalism through genetic competition can be combined with spinozist thought, thus an ethnonationalist outlook can be shown to stem from belief in a logical God. Culture of critique would also help explain this but as that can be extrpolated from evolutionary tendencies otOoS is a better pairing. Darwin's work is not totally in date but it seems a better core book for the combination and his openness to Lamarck will inevitably prove wise. Atheists please stay away and stop trying to coopt that theory to mask the irrationality of a lack of belief in God behind the veil of a well established biological principle.

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>>14981521
>Speakedeth

>> No.14981553

>>14981540
Darwin also has a sagely flair to him, with his little known artistic sensitivity. He had a Romanticist facet to him. As a hot take I'd suggest that his artistic sensitivity is what enabled his insight into evolution. In any case he's a worthy read for philosophers, doesn't even have to be the origin of species. He actually wrote poetry

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>> No.14981585

>>14981553
>Darwin also has a sagely flair to him
but of course, he was in training to become an anglican priest not a scientist (in fact he struggled with medicine) and on the Beagle he was not there as a naturalist but as a gentleman friend of the captain and budding traveller of the world

>> No.14981609

Interestingly (and this has been confirmed by numerous studies in Oriental literature departments) people who tend to enjoy books like the Dao De Jing are usually very low IQ, easy to manipulate, hold silly political opinions, and are generally morons, but consider themselves better than everyone else.

>> No.14981612

>>14981609
We are better than you. Sorry bitch

>> No.14981619 [DELETED] 

>>14981553
dude

dude get this

the dao

it's empty... but never runs out
the more you use it... the more there is

WOKE and DEEP-PILLED am i rite

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>>14981452

>> No.14981626

>>14981612
dude

dude get this..

the dao

it's empty... but never runs out
the more you use it... the more there is

WOKE and DEEP-PILLED am i rite

>> No.14981627

>>14981619
dude

>> No.14981628

>>14981627
dude

dude get this..

the dao

it's empty... but never runs out
the more you use it... the more there is

WOKE and DEEP-PILLED am i rite

>> No.14981629

>>14981585
The last paragraph of the Origin of Species

>There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.

>> No.14981636

dude

dude get this..

I’m gonna delete my post

Because I accidentally linked it to the wrong anon... but then repost it... to the right anon

GAY and I TAKE IT IN THE ASS

>> No.14981653

>>14981636
>GAY and I TAKE IT IN THE ASS
nice projection

>> No.14981656

>>14981636
yeah i fucked up but you're still a fucking sap for posting 3000 year old one liners reinterpreted by pseuds

>> No.14981657

>tao te ching

lmfao. so fucking cringe. go back to /x/

>> No.14981658

>>14981653
You would think it’s nice faggot

>> No.14981662

>>14981657
No one cares what you think dweeb

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>> No.14981667

>>14981662
>>/x/ is that way, schizo

>> No.14981670

>>14981667
Who are you quoting retard

>> No.14981689

how can the Red Pine translation value accuracy over prose when it isn't even line for line

>> No.14981691

>>14981629
>it’s gotta be true bro

>> No.14981702

>>14981629
Heraclitean almost

>> No.14981704

What we look forward to, does not exist;
What we chase after, will not prevail.
Seeing your self, is not honest;
Of course, this is not evident.
Attacking your self is without merit;
Self pity does not endure.
Such ways are called surplus food and superfluous forms.
Matters of the outside world, perhaps fierce,
Hence one who has the way does not dwell in them.

>> No.14981726

>Meditations - Marcus Aurelius
>How to Meditate: Meditation Techniques for Beginners - Colin G. Smith

>> No.14981727

>>14981473
The entirety of knowledge.

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>>14981473
the entirety of masochism

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>>14981452
>comparing tao te ching to thus spoke zarathustra

>> No.14982321

>>14981553
It's certainly the case that Darwin was as about far from being a social darwinist as one can imagine--in the sense that the smug variety of Victorian moralizing caricatured by Dickens is the quintessence of it. To take that attitude one would have to fall for the "it's all by design" naturalist fallacy--of which Voltaire's Dr Pangloss is another sendup--that Darwin's theory inverts. And while he was a rather eloquent fellow from the standpoint of ethics as gentler art is evident enough, it doesn't prevent me from laughing every time I think of Coleridge's remarks about the doggerel of Charles's grandfather Erasmus, which he called "the very butt of essay, pamphlet, and review", or words to such effect.

>> No.14982330

>>14981452
Cute hand cute legs

>> No.14982509

>>14981508
not op, but very cool anon

>> No.14982565

>>14981621
Kek'd

>> No.14982642

>>14981811
yeah Nietzsche is major cringe

>> No.14982891

>>14981452
Ecclesiastes
Genesis

>> No.14983353

>>14981609
Feel free to link one of these studies, but even if it were true it's hardly a basis for a case against the Tao. It's sort of like saying "studies show that stupid people like ice cream" and then deducing that liking ice cream must make you stupid. It betrays a lack of basic logical sense. I assume you're just trying to bait people, so you're allowed to "pretend to be retarded", but if it matters at all you look retarded either way to me

>> No.14983391

>Hobbes Leviathan / John Locke Two Treatises On Government
>Plato's Trial Of Socrates / Aristotles Catagories
>Confucius's Analects / Buddha's Dhammapada
>Montigane's Essays / Bacon's Essays
>Whitehead's Introduction To Mathematics / Guenon's Introduction To Hindu Doctrines

>> No.14983399

>>14981628
You don't understand daoism.

>> No.14983421

>>14981811
I understand the contrast, that was part of my reason for making the post, but you should know that I know that you wouldn't at all be able to explain the problem if pressed, and you're going around calling people stupid with wojaks because you don't have other means of elevating yourself.

>>14982642
Neither of you have read Nietzsche

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/thread

>> No.14983633

>>14981452
IQ correlates little to the measure of intelligence and IQ could be nature but also be nurtured

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>>14981452
shoutout to all my Trad niggas

>> No.14984040

>>14983633
IQ is nurturable but there is no general measure of intelligence to which it could correlate or fail to correlate

>> No.14984096

Word and Object by Quine
TLP by Wittgenstein

>>14983449
Are you in a sex shop?