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Why are twitter users so anal about the internet archive’s library

>> No.14980886

i don't really know or care whot hese people are

>> No.14980893
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>>14980877
I bet they are stadounidanians, children of Jerusalem, consumerists by birth. Thou shalt pay for everything.

>> No.14980899

>>14980893
Jesus fuck, I didn't notice someone censored "fag"!

>> No.14980911

>>14980877
weakness

>> No.14980914

>>14980877
holy Lord, westerers get THAT butthurt at people pirating books? i"ll pirate a dozen more today

>> No.14980918

That guy is just warming her up for a DM

>> No.14980923

>>14980914
Arthur Chu started harassing me on Twitter because I said if you’re upset about poor people using the internet archive to access books for free you’re a cunt

>> No.14980946

>>14980877
Readers should pay living authors with enthusiasm.
Writers should speak out against excessive copyrights (longer than life of author)
Anyone who is unwilling to adhere to these terms is not on the side of justice.

>> No.14980975

>>14980923
am i supposed to know who the fuck that is

>> No.14980977

Internet archive loans shit out for like 14 days too, literally just an online library ffs

>> No.14980978

>>14980923
is he notorous for anything? would be funny if he's one of those pop-lefty writers who try to sell by virtue signalling

>> No.14980982

>>14980975
>>14980978
He was a jeopardy champ and became a male feminist journalist. Then his wife divorced him because he was a slob

>> No.14980988

>>14980977
Apparently not, because apparently libraries now get charged exorbitant amounts by publishers for each loan. Some white lady author on twitter told me this giddily to explain how IA is somehow bad. Had no idea how much libraries were being shaken down by shady publishers. They have to pay per download or digital loan depending on the publisher

>> No.14980989
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>>14980877
Yes, cry more over people getting access to literature for free!

>> No.14980995

>>14980982
so, a predator disguising himself as prey
and still losing that little crumb of pussy he had

>> No.14980997

>>14980982
at least ken jennings didn't beome a total faggot

>> No.14981003

>>14980989
If I ever become an author I’m going to make my works accessible to all, profit be damned.

>> No.14981009

>>14981003
if you become popular and set up a patreon you'll get more money than you would have otherwise anyway lol

>> No.14981030

>>14981009
Probably. Most of the authors who are fuming at IA right now probably got fucked over by their publisher and lick their boots to try to justify and cope

>> No.14981055

What is on the internet archive that's copyrighted? I thought it was all public domain stuff?

>> No.14981072

>>14981055
Oh I see. You can borrow pdfs. Got it.

>> No.14981092

>>14981072
Yeah you can borrow PDFs if you make an account and only for 2 weeks with a max of 10, and no downloads unless they’re encrypted and most are specifically audio transcripts for the blind.
It’s insane anyone got angry over this

>> No.14981102

>>14980977
Are they doing something illegal? If so, why haven't they been shut down? If not, what's the problem?

>> No.14981108

>>14981092
there's no such thing as "borrowing" something on the internet

>> No.14981126

to use it outside of adobe digital editions remove the drm with the calibre extension

>> No.14981156

>>14980893
>paying for alcohol when you can make it for free

>> No.14981200

>>14980877
Anything nonfiction should be free and accessible. No question. Fiction is made to sell, but pirating it doesn't seem that bad. I think most people still prefer physical books anyway.

>> No.14981418

>>14980988
That's evil. Any author that wants a system like that to exist doesn't give a shit about literature

>> No.14981447

>>14980877
I guess I shouldn't be too surprised that the average person is too stupid to understand the public domain, but reading shit like this makes my blood boil, as do the news stories that make it seem like thousands of books were just now released for free because of the plague.

>> No.14981461

>>14980877
waaaaaaaaaa why am I not entitled to other's intellectual property?

>> No.14981471

>>14981461
intellectual property doesnt' exist, much like regular property

>> No.14981600

while google actually steals books and academic work

>> No.14981871

I despise people that need to make a living off of their writings. They really have no business flooding the market with their garbage that corrupts the common man.

>> No.14981968

>>14980877
>>14980877
>Hard work pays for things and gets rewarded
Oh sweet Summer child...

>> No.14981973

>>14981968
>Oh sweet Summer child...
you have to go back

>> No.14981978

>>14981461
It's not a moral argument, it's a pragmatic one. When something exists that can be taken for free why would everyone pay for it? Especially when there are millions of other artists out there willing to take their place?

The real way around piracy is by making getting content more convenient and risk-free than torrenting (see - Spotify, Netflix etc). Markets don't operate on moral arguments.

>> No.14982008

>>14981973
>Gets mad at meme
Who has to go back again?

>> No.14982033
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>>14980877
>mfw I have over 100GB of books I "legally acquired"
Ha ha ha

>> No.14982040

>>14982033
> over 100gb of text files
that's library of alexandria level hoarding. how many books are in it? how many of them havs you read?

>> No.14982058

>>14981092
They are lifting during the lockdown the waitlist. That's the reason.

>> No.14982059

I literally pirate so many books I'll never be able to read them in my life
I don't give a shit, I do what I want lmao

>> No.14982063

>>14982008
only gay r*ddit fags say it bitch. go there.

>> No.14982078

>>14980899
Testing:
Burn the fag
Pulverize the fags
Obliterates the faggots

>> No.14982084

>>14982078
>>14980893
Oh... You where talking about the meme...
Fuck faggots anyway.

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>>14980877
>real world
>hard work gets rewarded
The leftie psychology is pure doublethink

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14982272

Lawfag here
Piracy is copyright infringement. Stealing implies that the object is taken out of one’s possession.

I’ve never paid a penny for Vidya/books/music/tv
piracy is based.

>> No.14982323

>>14980877
the same reason why normalfags subscribe to various streaming services? i tried to convince this chum the other day that he can watch everything for free online but he kept insisting on the fact that is was "illegal"

>> No.14982352

>>14982272
extremely based

>> No.14982381

The more readers, the better.

>> No.14982424

>>14982272
I was waiting for you, Mr. Based.

>> No.14982545

Twitter is, like, one of the top 5 worst inventions of the 21st century. It lets people widely share horrible takes by design.

>> No.14982592

I don't understand how liberal feminist/intersectionalist brains work. They have "muh bootstraps" mindset and "be better, help the less privileged move up" at the same time?

>> No.14982606

>>14982272
ehmmm hello based department?

>> No.14982629

>>14982592
They're not really about helping people. They're about appearing to help people and this ends the minute it negatively effects them.

>> No.14982655

>>14980877
I would put money on these being a "marketing campaign"'s sock puppets. I know some social media "marketers" and there's been this thing of trying to sell big companies on this idea that you need paid social influencer advocates for the past few years.

>> No.14982681

>>14982592
>"muh bootstraps"
Progressives only apply this to white people. If they're complaining about free books, it's about white people getting free books. If a nigger physically stole a book they would support it and call you a racist if you didn't.

>> No.14982712

>>14982033
magnet link now, i have enough free space and i'm third country

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>>14980877
I pirate books written by jews or published by jewish publishers, I only pay White people for their written work.

>> No.14982790

>>14982033
Based archive bro

>> No.14982808

>>14982040
i had 48 gigs and it was probably 4-5000. big scans of cambridge and oxford histories really inflate the size

>> No.14982817

>not downloading the entire The Eye Bibliotik archive

>> No.14982821

>>14980877
I wonder how many of these people complaining about book theft voted Bernie to forgive their student debts.

>> No.14982843

>>14982592
They're just trying to look the most "woke" but at the end of the day they're the very "greedy capitalists" they hate when a poor person downloads a PDF of their shitty books.

>> No.14982854

>>14980877
Who are these nobodies that are responding to the NPR story? They all claim to be authors and a few admit they can't even make 20k a year. Why wouldn't they pursue other careers if feeding their family was a priority. It's clear their actual priority is their vanity. It's sad that people get to this point, why didn't anyone tell them that they're trash and should pursue another career? A lot of them are still young enough to join the military, they should do that and take the L. Maybe they'll get another epic story out of it.

>> No.14982875

>>14980877
Crazy how many leftists become staunch capitalists and bootstrappers when it's THEIR livelihood being inconvenienced. Want to read a book, poor? Get a job!

>> No.14982883

>>14982875
They are not leftists, they are - may Allah forgive me for uttering these words - intersectional neoliberals.

>> No.14982895

>>14980877
yeah Im sure everyone is just terrified of Jason breaking into their house. The faggot probably doesnt even own a weapon

>> No.14983815

>>14981102
It's not illegal because they're sponsored by the Library of Congress, and even if it was they should still keep operating because people having access to literature is a net good for society.

>> No.14983910

>>14982875
>>14982592
This is just how intersectional “woke” neoliberalism works. They don’t want to dismantle or fight the powers that be, they just want to ask it for favors and be the ones on top. The type to say “why aren’t half the concentration camp guards women?”

>> No.14983914

>>14981156
meh it tastes like crap unless you're willing to spendmore on ingredients and equipment than you wouldjust buying it

>> No.14983920

>>14982272
this, piracy is based

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>>14980877
Imagine getting mad at some poorfag student pirating books so he can get an education
American lefties really are something else

>> No.14983944

>>14983936
American neolibs aren’t lefties. They actually love capitalism and exploitation of the poor but masquerade it by being woke.

>> No.14983955

>>14983944
theyre lefties about government(they want democracy), patriarchy, race, etc.

>> No.14983960

>>14980893
>pirates everything, even free games
>strikes fear into publishers, making them cut prices by 90% just to appease him (he still doesn't buy)

hahahahaha

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Where are the 'true leftists' then? Are they hiding under a bed somewhere? In some closet?

In America there's only liberalism and capitalism, nothing else. There are larpers of all kinds, but nobody actually opposes liberalism. There is no guerrilla or cadres, no genuine dissent.

>> No.14983974

>>14983966
Was meant as a reply to >>14983944

>> No.14984004

>>14983966
American mainstream leftists are everywhere else's right wing. The guys with opinions that actually go against the system don't get a platform, as is the norm.

>> No.14984046

>>14983966
They definitely exist, but they’re completely lacking in a platform. American public discourse has been effectively destroyed by McCarthyism. The closest we get is a milquetoast pseudo demsoc like Bernie Sanders who is constantly lambasted as a HORRIFIC COMMUNIST by Republicans and painted as a HECKIN SEXIST by Democrats.

>> No.14984066

>>14981003
>If I ever become an author I’m going to make my works accessible to all
Easy to say with no skin in the game. I do hope you follow through with this though.

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>>14984004
Please stop using the terms 'left' and 'right' 'wings', they don't mean anything anywhere, it's just nonsense of the internal polarity of liberalism givnig the fake notion of a choice within it, a false dichotomy. Not even the supposed underground and opposing movements actually go against liberalism, be they what you might call 'neo-nazis' or 'antifa' or 'neo-marxists'.
>>14984046
>They definitely exist, but they’re completely lacking in a platform.
Of course they are, but even fringe groups completely buy into the liberal ideology. It doesn't matter how far 'left' or 'right' you actually go. If there were radicals they'd be using force against the system, there would be a violent struggle of some sort, anti-government forces. Instead you could go to the most radical of marxists in the US and he'd still be in favour of maintaining liberty, democracy and so on. When they argue they do so on the premise of liberal capitalism.

>> No.14984101

>>14984078
>If there were radicals they'd be using force against the system, there would be a violent struggle of some sort, anti-government forces
You have a point, in that there is enough implicit trust in "the system" that they feel they can achieve their goals via elections above anything else.
But I don't believe that inherently desiring your end system to withhold personal liberties and democracies makes you inherently a liberal capitalist.

>> No.14985292

So now we’re equating wealth to moral righteousness?

Jeff Bezos can buy every book on Earth, but Jim from Amazon Warehouse #836492 pirates one book after his 12 shift and he’s a bad person?

>> No.14985335

>>14984101
>But I don't believe that inherently desiring your end system to withhold personal liberties and democracies makes you inherently a liberal capitalist.
Just examples, they accept the entire foundation, meaning they support the system even if they 'oppose' it on some minor point. Dissent requires core disagreements, as long as you agree with all of the premises you actually reinforce the status quo with critique and such.

For example, simply helping workers by making their conditions endurable seems like a good thing in a vacuum, but you're essentially just helping things to continue to move along instead of letting a radical change happen. The rich stay rich and the poor stay poor.

>> No.14985428

>>14980877
>Why are twitter users so anal about X
twitter is anal

>> No.14985478
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>>14980877

>> No.14985496

Because authors are getting stiffed on royalty fees by it.

>> No.14985504

>>14985478
Technically it already is, posting poor quality thread is against the rules. It's just never enforced because retards can't help but respond to garbage.

>> No.14985584

>>14982272
absolutely based

>> No.14985791

>>14985292
There's nothing wrong with Bezos you seething tranny

>> No.14985841

>>14985791
bezos is literally the trolley problem manifest.