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Is there any homosexual literature that isn't homophobic and isnt just modern academia pandering to LGBT?

I'm gay and I wanna read some works that relate to my life, so a chaste gay man who struggles with himself would be a interesting book to read, is there any such?

>> No.14979275

Last Words from Montmartre
Death in Venice

>> No.14979279

Awwww

>> No.14979280

The Immoralist
Corydon

>> No.14979316
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>>14979280
>>14979275
Thanks anons, I'll look into these
I already own Death in Venice but its in Swedish idk if its good or not

>> No.14979322

Confessions of a Mask
Giovanni's Room
Our Lady of the Flowers

and a fair amount of classics are relevant, specifically works by Proust, Lawrence, and Melville

>> No.14979330

>>14979322
>Melville
Homoerotic by modern standards at times, but not really homosexual.

>> No.14979355

Was almost going to suggest the Marquis De Sade, but maybe that's a little too much.

>> No.14979357

>>14979330
What would you say is the difference? Is it a question of identity? Of a consummated, explicit action?

>> No.14979381

>>14979357
Well, there isn't an explicitly homosexual character in his work as far as I'm aware, nor are there homosexual themes, both of which is what OP asked for.

>> No.14979435

>>14979381
Didn't answer my question, and I didn't say I was giving OP exactly what he asked for. Just think he might find a work like Billy Budd relevant to his experience.

Reading in such a literal way means avoiding many of the contradictions which make literature a fertile art-form.

>> No.14979450

>>14979435
This is why people hate gays.

>> No.14979485

>>14979450
because they suggest reading shit that isn't literally spoonfeeding them their pre-conceived idea of the world?

what are your suggestions btw?

and im not gay lol

>> No.14979506

>>14979258
I really like the idea of having sex with legal pubescent boys (as one myself but with Roman rules) but I find the way most faggots look, talk and act to be physically repulsive and gross. It's a shame really.

>> No.14979544

>>14979485
Because they're annoying, pretentious, contrarian, argumentative cunts. Also I already gave him my suggestions.

>> No.14979566

>>14979258
Instead of reading, stop being chaste and stop struggling.

>> No.14979620

>>14979544
/lit/ confirmed a f46607 board>>14979506

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Thanks for the reccs friends, I'm going to bed now but will look into buying some of those books when I wake up

>> No.14979927

>>14979654
If you end up coming back check out David Sedaris' books. Didn't even know he was gay until halfway through Naked.

>> No.14979992

check out tropical malady the movie

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>>14979544

>being contrarian is bad because i want every argument that i make to be accepted by everybody

this is why i hate ameriniggers so much.

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>>14979258
Seek foreign works of fiction.

>> No.14980067

Clive Barker. He is gay. Sometimes he has gay characters in his short stories. Ummm... I know that is not necessarily what you were asking about, but I think people sleep on him a bit, and I like how he can speak from that experience without making that experience the end all be all, or shoving it down your throat

>> No.14980109

>>14979258
dennis cooper if you like books ab twinks being murdered

>> No.14980251

>>14979258
it's hard to find good books or films about cute twinks that don't wind up with said character/s dead by some diabolus ex machina by the end (AIDS if it's a period piece, murder/suicide if it's present day) with boring predictability

being a cute twink in fiction is about as deadly as being a dog + featured in the title, or being the protagonist's childhood friend in a coming-of-age drama

>> No.14980253

>>14980002
>Melville is a faggot because I say so!

>> No.14980254

>>14980251
just watch HxH

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>>14980253

look, he said only faggots are contrarian when its a broad different thing also dont quote me ever again, you fucking twink.

>> No.14980294

at swim, two boys

>> No.14980304

>>14980261
read the thread, faggot.

>> No.14980367
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>>14980109
also has a great blog

>> No.14980430

>>14980367
cutest I ever knew ended up a ket addict

still more or less just as pretty 8-10 years later which bucks the cliche a bit, but brain completely scrambled, you hear about the "pissing into a bag" stuff but nobody knew it caused early-onset dementia etc. when we were in college circa 2010-13

>> No.14980448

>>14979322
Came to rec Melville

>> No.14980470

Why are gay couples so much cuter than straight couples/lit/?

>> No.14980477

>>14980470
Because you know for sure that it's powered by something other than reproductive instinct

>> No.14980480

>>14980477
yea, homosexual lust.

>> No.14980493

>>14980367
so sad

>> No.14980494

>>14979258
> be me, not even gay, just mildly bisexual
> weird fascination with homo literature
what's that? how is homo romance not as boring as straight and why is it so intricate?
classic homo is just high class.

>> No.14980526

>>14980367
holy based
cooper is GOAT

>> No.14980527

>>14980494
what are some books?

>> No.14980546

>>14980527
Satyricon is hysterically funny at parts but it's quite pornographic
Special Friendship (a french novel) is about pure teen love in a christian school

those i havent read yet, but heardthey're good
> call me by your name
> maurice
> wingmen
> memoires of hadrian
> forbidden colors

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>>14980367
shame

>> No.14980665

Been too long since I hooked up with a femme twink type, I'm starting to reach the age that dating guys that young would be creepy

Most recent time was in uni some 6 years ago, was out at a bar with a friend and we managed to hook up with this gorgeous petite blond and took him back to mine for a threesome; played some of my favourite instrumental prog-pop vinyl while both of them made out with my cock / each other concurrently. I should really incorporate some of my experiences into my writing at some point.

>> No.14980688

>>14980665
as a firsthand account of modern man's degeneration?

>> No.14980710

>>14980367
context?

>> No.14980731

>>14980477
Makes sense

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>>14980665

welp, please tell, im with my cock in hand.

>> No.14980874

>>14979258
>a chaste gay man who struggles with himself
Read Ray Monk's biography of Wittgenstein lol

>> No.14980876

>>14980477
It’s just misdirected reproductive instinct because of hormonal and genetic abnormalities leading to atypical sexual behaviour you fucking retard
t. An actual faggot

>> No.14981011

>>14979258
Any Michael Cunningham book. He is a good writer in general.
Sara Waters, if you're fine with lesbians

>> No.14981050

>>14980665
>wasted my university years being repressed
>almost 30
My only hope for a sex life is to stay healthy enough to live it up as a "daddy" from 40 onwards. Maybe I'm just moping but 30s seems like some sort of lost decade in the gay world. Awkward period between youthful good looks and the status you can achieve by the time you are an older man.

>> No.14981056

>>14981011
any more comfy lesbian recs? this one short story by Maupassant (Paul's Mistress in english) was good.

>> No.14981063

>>14981050
Sorry, I'll make an actual contribution as well... Read the decadents and symbolists- it's not completely explicit, but homosexuality's best subcultures were pre-LGBT... students of the classics, libertines, 19th century aristocrats who hid their grins behind a thin gauze of aestheticism.

>> No.14981066

>>14981050
don't fall for the twink&daddy dichotomy. there are gays who dont stick to those types. 30 is good to find a partner who's your peer.

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>>14980367
What the fuck

>> No.14981204

>>14979258
Joyce - A Painful Case (short story)

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>>14979258
WIP

>> No.14981338

>tfw you will never have a soft cute femboy twink bf who you can come home to and tenderly love
>tfw you will never be young again and have a secret relationship with your friend
CUT MY LIFE INTO REEESES PIECES

>> No.14981353

>>14981338
>tfw you will never be young again and have a secret relationship with your friend
This is a soul crushing feel.

>> No.14981552

Giovanni's Room, Giovanni's Room and Giovanni's Room

>> No.14981558

>>14981353
at least internet gives you an ability to LARP it out...

>> No.14981575

Um guys! I hope you folk realise that homosexuality is a disgusting sin against our Lord right?
Y'all realise this is a trad cath board? Who hurt you bugmen to make you turn into foul nu-male fags?
Yiking at you sodomite filth!

>> No.14981577

>>14979258
Why are fags worse than roasties? They're literally all just massive coomers who fuck anything and have no notion of love.

>> No.14981610

Please stop posting these suicide fuel webms, you've got to understand there are people like me who will never fit in the faggot community on this board. I come to /lit/ to get my mind off the absolute coomer shit show zeitgeist and these videos only feed my mind breakdown material. If you ever had sex or a bf or even so much as a blowjob please leave this board and never come back. I can suggest you some Chrome Extensions to remove the elements on any website, and with a couple of clicks it will be as if /lit/ didn't even exist on your webpage. Please get out as soon as possible and enjoy your life, and do not post webms like these ever again on this board.

>> No.14981616

>>14979258
Why are these twins making out? That's even more disgusting.

>> No.14981622

>>14981616
they're not twins
iirc one is russian and the other scandi

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>>14981610
this isn't r9k, boyo

>> No.14981711

>>14981695
Fuck you and fuck your shit fetish. This board is r9k. Get the fuck out you won't read anyway you fucking faggot LARPer.

>> No.14981746

>>14980710
He has a blog where he posts the pages and comments from male escort sites. Calls it "DC's Select International Escorts for the Month of..."
I'm convinced he writes these up.

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>>14981711
>you won't read anyway
What vile and unfair accusations!

>> No.14981797

>>14981781
>Look, I stole this shit from a library for a quick blowjob!
Get the fuck out, /lit/ is a sexless virgin board. You're not welcome.

>> No.14981804

>>14981797
libraries are closed around here
>/lit/ is a sexless virgin board
it shows ;)

>> No.14981814

>>14979258
Most Bret Easton Ellis books have homosex, although it is casual and dispassionate

>> No.14981885

>>14981622
Russian and German
The really wild part is that they're both in their mid-20s

>> No.14981887

homosexuals are gross. hiding this shitty thread.

>> No.14981912

>>14979258
Burroughs

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oh my gooood
i want a bf to fuck me and cuddle me and be gentle with me (and I to him) so fucking badly

>> No.14982026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ka01Rt-fx0
Bros... books for this feel?

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14982069

to me, homoeroticism is one of the most aesthetic things a human can engage in, but homosex is disgusting. i'm not sexually attracted to dicks, balls and man assholes. vulgarity ruins every cute or solemn manifestation of homoerotic imagery.
some mild kissing or petting though is divine in its looks and essense. i wish there were more brolike or sophisticated homo content, be it lit or movies.

>> No.14982124

>>14982069
Why is 4chan so gay baka baka baka

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>>14982124
i'm bisexual with a heavy leaning for women, but you can't deny greeks and romans were up to something as great as their artistic legacy

>> No.14982159

>>14981887
thanks for letting us know xox

>> No.14982174

>>14979258
>gay man
>chaste

What?

>> No.14982177

>>14981746
based

>> No.14982190

>>14982174
here's a soviet joke. a man walks into a grocery store.
- let me guess, you don't have any meat again?
- we don't have any fish! no meat is in the store across the road.

it doesn't matter what you abstain from if you abstain.

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>>14982174
Yes, and? Whats wrong with that

>> No.14982293

>>14982140
How does leaning towards one gender work? I'm not bi so I dont understand

Would you rather sleep with a woman you dont love instead of a man you love?

>> No.14982414

>>14979258
I'm straight but I used to make out with a few of my male friends.

>> No.14982456

>>14979485
Enjoying you mogging on folks, anon. Stick around.

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>>14982414
You're not straight if you enjoyed that

>> No.14982482

>>14982460
A hormonal teenage boy enjoying intimate contact doesn't mean they're gay. Think i'm in denial all you want but I definitely like women.

>> No.14982573

>>14982293
for me it's that i find many women attractive, specifics dont matter if she looks good or has a great character, but the only men i find attractive are practically fictional with a long list of autistic requirements

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Men are the superior sex and there's nothing wrong with brotherly love, but perverting that and turning your entire identity into being about putting your penis in the rectum of other men or vice versa should be a crime. It debases men into being just as lowly as women.

>> No.14982605

>>14979330
>Homoerotic by modern standards at times
so rubbing each other down in whale sperm was just something friends did back then, huh

>> No.14982613

>>14979258
Hey this, but how about nobody dies miserably?

>> No.14982616

Walt Whitman’s poetry. Parts of it seem turbogay to the modern reader but he caught very little grief for that in his lifetime as it fit into the culture of Victorian bromance.

>> No.14982624

>>14982602
are lesbians better than hetero women?

>> No.14982662

>>14982069
blame mid/late-Victorian puritanical LARPers forcing society to parody the etiquette of an idealised golden age as if we're Japan or something; it used to be quite normal to hug and kiss your bros before that

>> No.14982672

bisexuality and no monogamy is the most aesthetic sexual preference
reproduce & raise a family like a good moral individual AND have adorable twinks on the side, no need to paint yourself into a corner

>> No.14982737

>>14982672
do you want an ancient-greek-like society or is it your own model?
do women dothe same or must they polygamous? are twinks just other younger men or possibly some kind of eternally young creatures? imagine if anything, including the fundamentally impossible, was possible, how would you create a perfect society?

>> No.14982745

>>14982737
must they be*
i might have an unhealthy interest in alternative timeline concepts

>> No.14982828

>>14981781
Imagine being this autistically insecure.

>> No.14983027

Call me by your name. The film, not the book. Book is a bit cringe desu.

>> No.14983046

>>14982737
Not that anon but I like the idea of heterosexuality being strictly for marriage and homosexual sex being side fun for both men and women.
I suppose the only impossible thing i'd add to this society is the elimination of STI's, since they somewhat ruin sexual freedom.

>> No.14983122

Try Belchamber by Howard Sturgis.

>> No.14983128

Is there not a good chart of LGBT lit?

>> No.14983148

Jo Jo's Bizarre adventure

>> No.14983156

>>14979316
>I already own Death in Venice but its in Swedish idk if its good or not
Of course it's good.

>> No.14983224

The Great Mirror of Male Love, Its century's old tales of love between men. Though it's not contemporary it's worth a read.

>> No.14983240

>>14981695
Them blowjob lips though.

>> No.14983373

>>14979258
>I'm gay and I wanna read some works that relate to my life
Of course you do. Because homosexuality is a narcissitic personality disorder.
It always has to be about you, doesn't it?

>> No.14983386

>>14983373
>almost all books featuring some sort of romantic relationship are about a woman and a man
>anon wonders if there are any good works of lit about homosexual love
>must be a narcissist
You are a nigger

>> No.14983394

>>14983373
>omg you like relating to things you fucking egomaniac

>> No.14983445

>>14983373
>narcissistic gaslighting is my deepest passion.

>> No.14983722

>>14983373
5 seconds later
> Books where protagonist is a 13yo blackpilled doomer without friends?
> sadwojack.jpg
> post thread

>> No.14983755

>>14983394
Yeah, that's why I can't read books about women, niggers or faggots.

>> No.14983762

>>14983386
>assumes an inference I never made
You are a retard. And probably American.

>> No.14983766

>>14983762
I am smarter than you and very european.

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>>14983766
If you need to assert you're smarter than someone, it means you're not.

>> No.14983803

>>14983798
No it's not

>> No.14983808

>>14983386
>>14983394
>>14983445
>>14983722
Kek'ing at all these triggered narcissists.

>> No.14984191

>>14982624
lesbians are worse because they get insecure and pretend they don't want men when they clearly do.

>> No.14984591

>>14982828
Imagine being this humourless

>> No.14985827

>>14982828
Fag.

>> No.14985966

kill yourself

>> No.14986824

>>14980109
cooper is really a unique beast for being an out homo author who doesn't shy away from the less savoury parts of the american gay experience, particularly the drug use, toxic relationships, masochism, and underage prostitutes. those are all things that domesticated gays try to sweep under the carpet

>> No.14986847

>>14979258
nobody itt is calling out op of being a >faggot

faggot

>> No.14986853

Just read Plato's Alcibiades and Symposium.

>> No.14986875

>>14979258
Gender Trouble

>> No.14987030

>>14979485
Based gayanon.

>> No.14988031

>>14979258

I mean homosexuality itself is the most homophobic thing there is, the accusation of it being merely about sex is only false because it does not go far enough, it is merely about genitals, i.e. a relation between any two people can only qualify as homosexual if they both have male genitals. Ultimate objectification, literally turning men and relation between them upside down, making everything contingent on genitals.

>> No.14988080

>>14980430
>ket addict
??

>> No.14988533

>>14988080
ketamine, anon. aka horse tranquilizer

>> No.14988537

>>14988031
semantics. homosexual implies romantic attraction despite your literal interpretation of the word