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I have no intention of reading this boring faggot please give me the gist.

>> No.14972208
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>>14972174
There is no gist. Even if you read him you will propably not understand him.

>> No.14972308

>>14972174
Progress good. End of history coming soon.

>> No.14972316

>>14972308
>Progress good. End of history coming soon.
That doesn't sound too far fetched.

>> No.14972318

His cover looks like a fucking phone book. I know we're not meant to judge a book by its cover but jesus

>> No.14972333

>>14972174
There is no gist. You can read whatever ideology into it, from Prussianism, to Marxism, to American Neoconservatism, and no one will be able to authoritatively contest you because nobody knows what the hell he is talking about (and are trying to do the same thing as you btw).

>> No.14972334

>>14972308
Do people legitimately believe this? What happens after?

>> No.14972335

>>14972174
All of history is just collective consciousness getting to know itself, or some shit. It's basically nonsense.

>> No.14972336

>>14972174
The substance of our consciousness is the substance of God and structured in the same way which reality is. Goodness is the proliferation of consciousness, badness is the obliteration either via bodily pleasure or otherwise. He has some mumbojumbo about family and stuff where he tries to fold it in, but really think he misses the point.

>> No.14972346

>>14972174
Don't bother, idealism is feeler cope because they can't understand math.

>> No.14972464

>>14972336
>>14972346
What is laughably absurd though is that Hegel downplays Math and Physics. These are mere "special sciences", but his (Hegel's) system is Absolute Knowledge. Before humanity was groping in the dark, but now Hegel has "discovered the conditions that make science possible". Nevermind that before Hegel's day Newton and Leibniz had been inventing Calculus and discovering the laws of Classical Mechanics, nevermind that Lavoisier, Dalton and others were establishing the field of modern Chemistry, all of that is child's play. Only now, with Hegel, we have arrived at Science with a capital 's' or Absolute Knowledge. I could expand on the humorously hubristic claims of Hegel's system, such as bridging the gap between subject and object (!), but I will simply ask this. Any Hegelians out there: it has been more than a century now since Hegel has solved philosophy and blessed us with the system of Absolute Knowledge. So what has Asbolute Knowing produced by way of knowledge since? What wonderful discoveries has this field of divine Wisdom blessed us with? I mean there must be at least some. It's a meme. The whole thing.

>> No.14972488

>>14972174
The gist is that you're a gigantic faggot who wants to brag about not reading one of the most significant philosophers of all time because you're afraid you'll be too brainlet to understand what he's saying.

>> No.14972535

>>14972308
"End of history" is a refuted meme.

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>>14972464
>What wonderful discoveries has this field of divine Wisdom blessed us with?
Communism, which put the first man in space.

>> No.14972621

>>14972174
The gist is geist

>> No.14972679

>>14972464
The notion of The Absolute, like any other concept, is a product of self-actualization and thus in the process of becoming. The unity of thought and being in the notion of The Absolute comes about by the same process of conscious recognition of the conscious recognition of conscious recognition. If this means nothing to you, feel free to read something else

>> No.14972697

>>14972679
Stop bullshitting and get a job, hippie.

>> No.14972704

>>14972567

So it's communism when it's convenient, and it isn't (real, "finished") communism when it isn't (convenient), got it.

>> No.14972758

>>14972697
Not a hippy. Also, I have a job, you small-dicked goblin-heighted philistine why dont you headbutt a pair of scissors or drink the liquids under your sink

>> No.14973012

>>14972758

Not him, but I love it when internet tough-guy brainlets out themselves by stringing together a series of violent, colorful phrases which are meant to make them sound clever and smart, but really just demonstrate the reverse.

>> No.14973120 [DELETED] 

>>14972174
/6agtph6

>> No.14973138

>>14972704
communism is relative to local and contemporary material circumstances. read a book and get some wrinkles on that smoothbrain. Chinese communism is saving the world from COVID right now bruh

>> No.14973171

>>14972308
how did hegel define progress?

>> No.14973187

>>14973012
That's wonderful. Thank you for your input

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>>14973138
>Chinese communism is saving the world from COVID right now bruh
saving the world from something it spawned itself.

>> No.14973240

>>14973187
u mad as hell

>> No.14973252

>>14973138
>communism is relative to local and contemporary material circumstances.
So it's communism when it's convenient, and it isn't (real, "finished") communism when it isn't (convenient), got it.

>> No.14973265

>>14973240
Yup

>> No.14973271

>>14973240
le nog

>> No.14973293

>>14973252
Communism critiques material circumstances, if the material circumstances surrounding communism are degraded then the critique still stands

>> No.14973335

>>14973171
Actualisation

>> No.14973527

>>14973293
shut the fuck up dumb dumbass Dengist and read Marx

>> No.14973537

>>14973252
don't listen to China (or USSR)-defending Stalinists, they're dumb as fuck and have never even read the source material they claim to defend.

you're right, his answer is a load of shit. communism is the abolition of private property, the state and commodity production; nothing more, and nothing less, regardless of what retarded ass Stalinists say