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How can the modern right use the ideas of Deleuze? What does right-wing deleuzianism look like? (without occultism and anti-humanism)

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14971052

>>14971027
dunno

>> No.14971072

>>14971027
read "Based Deleuze"

>> No.14971170

>>14971027
Justin I know what you are trying to do here. Nobody is going to read Based Deleuze so don't even try to advertise

>> No.14971244

>>14971170
>Justin
who's that?

>> No.14971281

>>14971027
Apparently by intersecting it with generative anthropology. At least thats what is currently being done.

>> No.14971296

>>14971244
Justin Murphy

>> No.14971503

>>14971027

On the slight chance that this thread could be something productive I'll give a thought I had when reading it that could fit your "right-wing deleuzianism". Its about the whole tranny situation that is making quite a few waves left and right.

In Anti Ödipus Dolce and Gabana use the story of Daniel Paul Schrebers psychosis and his desire to become woman quite freely to depict the schizophrenic as something somewhat sympathetic I almost want to say. I guess from this comes a lot of the appeal to those who want to see the whole tranny thing in a positive and desirable way (see the whole g/acc crowd and others on the left side who use D&G)
But once we go to Thousand Plateaus there is the distinction made of three different planes where becoming happens. The molecular (i think that was the lowest one, think stars, continents rocks etc), the biological (seeds into plants into flowers into wasps and new seeds) and finally the philosophical. Now throughout the book D&G advocate for a constant becoming, experimenting with the BwO and taking lines of flight. But this ALWAYS, in my opinion, takes place in the third plane. It is a becoming at the speed of thought they are so in favor for. The pack off anus-wolfs that are your becoming aren't literally breaking out of your skin and the next moment you are hunting some solar-bunnies through the woods. Sure they are a metaphor but they are also not biological.
And likewise is the "becoming woman" not a biological component but one that only takes places in the plane of consistency and organisation.
Furthermore do they argue against the hardening of segmentations and rather for their continuous changing motion. This tells me that they did indeed not had in mind the altering of the biological material since it forcefully denies deterritorialisations and blocks further lines of flight the individual can take. The biological can not keep up with the speed of thought by any means and trying otherwise will only lead to what they call micro-fascisms.

Tell me if something I said is wrong I'm not an expert it was just something that came to my mind when I was studying TP.
Anyways, the idea of a right-wing Deleuzianism seems kinda hard to construct for reasons that are withing this post already. (hardening segments bad etc)
Might I ask what theory OP as already developed?

>> No.14971559

>>14971027
The right can't use him

>> No.14971579

It's like.....um.....rhizomes and shit, bro.

>> No.14971604

Deleuze cannot be right wing in any way. He denies any sort positive identity. All right wing / traditional concepts of "religion" "race" "tradition" do not exist in any meaningful way within his framework. If you mean right wing as just some sort of Nietzschean socialist, then maybe, but most stuff falls apart.

He really isn't even a thinker you want to construct a "system" out of in the first place.

I used to be interested in Deleuze quite a bit, but after all a while you get tired of it. Even he himself said that "the purpose of philosophy is to sadden" and exalted philosophy moreso as a mind bender than a real positive system of truths as it might be traditionally thought. He is just moreso interested in twisting the way you think. It is not unlike an occult initiation to read Deleuze, unironically.

>> No.14971611

>>14971072
>twitter "intellectual"
eww

>> No.14971626

>>14971604
>occult initiation
Based
>>14971503
I feel ya. I read AO when younger and got an antipsychiatry message but reading ATP older I feel he is course-correcting... need to reread AO

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>>14971559
DUDE I'M A LEFTIST DUUUUUUDE DUDE WE'RE ALL JUST FUCKING SERFS IN THE MONEYED CLASS OF CAPITALISM BUT IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE POLITICALLY CONSCIOUS OF IRRELEVANT IDEOLOGICAL DOGMA AND HOLD OPINIONS ON THINGS THAT WE ARE FUNDAMENTALLY SUBJECTED TO WITHOUT THE POWER TO CHANGE

>> No.14971710

>>14971559
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>> No.14971731

>>14971679
Have sex

>> No.14971737

>>14971559
Deleuze said the left and right were two sides of the same schizophrenic coin

>> No.14971740

>>14971737
bro thats deep

>> No.14971744

>>14971740
nigger

>> No.14971781

>>14971731
>>14971744

>> No.14971789

>>14971781
>>14971731
>>14971744

>> No.14971811

>>14971789
>>14971789

>> No.14971841

>>14971559
Fact checked this post with your wife's boyfriend. Turns out it's false.

>> No.14971852

>>14971845

>> No.14972047

>>14971604
Read DeLanda