/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14962853]

dont mind me, just being the greatest fictional character of all time

[Anonymous No.14962858]

go back to /tv/

[Anonymous No.14962859]

>>14962853
Who dat?

[Anonymous No.14962860]

>>14962858
The Prequels are contemporary epics.

[Anonymous No.14962863]

>>14962853
he's LITERALLY me

[Anonymous No.14962867]

>>14962860
Ok. But they're not /lit/

[Anonymous No.14962870]

>>14962853
>>14962860
Finally a good thread. The Phantom Menace (1999) saved film.

[Anonymous No.14962871]

>>14962860
This. The prequels are severely underrated and easily George Lucas' Magnum Opus.

[Anonymous No.14962872]

>>14962853
he's just jesus though. how exactly does he improve on jesus?

[Anonymous No.14962875]

>>14962872
did jesus fail and become the servant of satan?

[Anonymous No.14962877]

>>14962860
What a sad state our culture has reached then if mediocre films for children are our epics

[Anonymous No.14962889]

>>14962853
Had he not fallen to the dark side , he would've been the great one

[Anonymous No.14962890]

>>14962877
The Iliad was read to children before bedtime, pseud.

[Anonymous No.14962897]

>>14962867
More /lit/ than all the escoteric ramblings about art and aesthetics.

[Anonymous No.14962900]

My parents took me to see The Phantom Menace in the theater when I was a kid. They were really excited to take me.
A few years later they offered to take me to Attack of the Clones or whatever it was called and I told them to go fuck themselves.

[Anonymous No.14962913]

>>14962900
Nice larp

[Anonymous No.14962914]

>>14962867
the star wars saga is a 6 part epic poem in film format. If anything simply studying its construction from a literary perspective is already on topic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqnjzVX8EKA

[Anonymous No.14962917]

>>14962890
Did Homer also use the Iliad as the basis of a consumerist multimedia empire in order to sell action figures of Achilles?

[Anonymous No.14962925]

>>14962900
so your teenage rebellion was not watching star wars? weird

[Anonymous No.14962931]

>>14962875
no, and neither does anakin.

[Anonymous No.14962933]

>>14962914
go back to /tv/ you sickening midwit, you clearly don't want to read literature and just grandstand about why your franchise for children is actually art. The prequels are not bad movies, none of the original 6 star wars films are especially good or bad, it's time to leave childish things behind

[Anonymous No.14962949]

>>14962931
but he does. he literally gets seduced by satan and kills all his friends and even his own wife. he eventually defeats the emperor but that is when the circle is complete and vader returns to his original motivation of family when his son is being killed in front of him

[Anonymous No.14962962]

>>14962917
sort of. look up the homeridae, this is what a "consumerist mutimedia empire" looked like in ancient greece.

[Anonymous No.14962966]

>>14962917
Well, considering the numerous adaptations and fanfictions sold of it, I'd say so.

[Anonymous No.14962982]

>>14962867
he's at his best in the revenge of the sith novelization, which is /lit/

[Anonymous No.14962983]

>>14962877
>best character in the star wars series, fatherly, decisive, yet compassionate Qui Gon
>obedient and dutiful Obi Wan apprentice
>beautiful Naboo, Gungan undersea complex
>one of the best swordfights in all of film history accompanied by legendary Duel of the Fates score by Golden Age's lost child John Williams
>one of the most stunning and tragic hero deaths (Qui Gon)--courageously dies, becomes immortal
>imaginative and cinematically impressive homage to Ben-Hur chariot scene
>greedy Jew Watto btfo
>best mom in the series Shmi--humble virgin, gentle motherly affection, shows deference to strangers and wise Qui Gon
>decisive and severe queen amidala--awesome and majestic royal costumes; dutiful and serious subordinates, quick to action, brave in the face of danger, courage to retake aesthetically impressive homeland and awe-inspiring kingdom pervaded by trees and waterfalls
>genuine platonic love relationship between young and sharp anakin and padme
>aesthetic curvaceous naboo space fighters
>barely legal natalie portman AND keira knightley
>journey through center of the earth sea voyage--ridiculous gungan fool juxtaposed with calm and collected jedi chads
etc.

[Anonymous No.14963004]

>why yes, we post about movies for children on a literature board because we're incapable of reading anything that isn't genre fiction, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.14963006]

[Anonymous No.14963010]

>>14963006
all star wars is for children, pretending to have read books which you have at best read a wikipedia summary of is not going to change that

[Anonymous No.14963017]

>>14963010
Filtered

[Anonymous No.14963021]

>>14962949
those things factually do not happen. the people he kills are not his friends, he does not kill his wife and he is never legitimately on palpatine's side. his motivation was not originally family but universal justice and the transformation into vader is not a failure but a rebirth into a pure manifestation of his ethical mission. he is the first christian in a pagan universe.

[Anonymous No.14963024]

>>14962877
>>14962933
>>14963004
>>14963010
>umm, you know Star Wars is for children, right. Can you, like, not?

[Anonymous No.14963027]

>>14963017
fuck off pretentious midwit, pretending that your colourful product entertainment is part of the big boys club is peak s o y

[Anonymous No.14963039]

>>14962860
based
>>14962867
cringe
>>14962871
based
>>14962900
cringe
>>14962933
cringe
>>14963004
cringe
>>14963006
based

apologise, /lit/.

[Anonymous No.14963057]

>>14963027
Discounting the artistic merit of something because it's "for children" is the epitome of pretentious onions-chugging midwittery.

[Anonymous No.14963062]

>NOOOOOO! CHILDREN'S MOVIES ARE SERIOUS ART! YOU CAN'T EXPECT ME TO ACTUALLY DISCUSS LITERATURE, THAT'S PROBLEMATIC!! OVERANALYSING FILMS DESIGNED TO SELL ACTION FIGURES MAKES ME AN INTELLECTUAL

[Anonymous No.14963063]

>>14962853

Anakin really is a good character on paper
The chosen one who gets randomly plucked out of nowhere then instead of fulfilling the prophecy is driven to corruption by the very people who thought he was the chosen one to begin with
It's like a reverse self fulfilling prophecy a nice trope subversion on multiple levels

[Anonymous No.14963070]

>>14963062
cringe

[Anonymous No.14963084]

>>14963004
The Prequels are top-tier Hyperborean epics with courages and serious characters, grand and majestic landscapes, adventurous storylines, and cinematically stunning action sequences--perfect for a generation of budding philosophers heroes. Have you ever wondered why gynocrats like your picrelated piss themselves over the Abrams sequels, whereas the prequels are unanimously regarded as stupid and unappealing? It is because their estrogenic sensibilities detect the resurgence of Apollonian tragedy and patriarchy in the fatherly assurance of Qui-Gon, in the numinous Amidala, in the absence of feminist tropes and sentimentalism, in the lack of Reddit-tier witticisms. The genuine aesthetic grandeur of Naboo makes them quake with fear.

[Anonymous No.14963088]

>>14963057
That's why they love harry potter and capeshit? s0ys are the one's who insist that cgi movies for kids are the modern equivalent of greek myth, not the people who want to discuss the classics
Continuing to live in childhood is the defining trait of the onions

[Anonymous No.14963097]

>>14963070
cope

[Anonymous No.14963108]

>>14963088
>cgi movies for kids
>Continuing to live in childhood
You can enjoy something for different reasons. As a child you might like the action and the comic relief characters, as an adult you appreciate the underlying themes.

[Anonymous No.14963127]

>>14962983
lol quigon is not a positive character. he's a misguided religious fundamentalist (compared to a scientologist via the midichlorians device) whose job is to intimidate people as an enforcer for a corrupt government. he doesn't have any objections to the institution of horrifying child slavery until a particular child slave happens to match his goofy beliefs, at which point he cements the obliteration of his religion by fucking up his long-awaited messiah with the injustice of not saving his mother.

the point of quigon is to establish that obiwan lied (again) and the jedi were in fact an awful cult of rich mutant-worshipping cunts that deserved to get wiped out by vader's righteous rage.

[Anonymous No.14963162]

>>14963063
and then, after committing to the dark side for most of his adult life, redeems himself by destroying it and fulfilling the prophecy after all. Truly a beautiful and epic character arc. I expect the zoomer collective unconscious to will the Anakin archetype into existence with the next 20 years.

[Anonymous No.14963179]

>>14963063
there's nothing "on paper" about it. it's executed very well, it's just that it happens to be insulting to the fandom so everyone got mad. young vader was "supposed" to be cool, and not a whiny broken manchild who fucks his own surrogate mother. people expected fanservice and got this weird experimental psychosexual narrative about child abuse and the failure of liberalism. doesn't mean it's not top notch.

[Anonymous No.14963181]

>>14963127
Anakin is ultimately the one who defeats the emperor, so Qui-Gon was ultimately right.

[Anonymous No.14963214]

>>14962853
It's over, Anakin, I have the higher ground!

[Anonymous No.14963239]

>>14963006
The first time I saw this image I realized how correct it was and how wrong anti prequel fegs were.

Episode 3 in particular is one of the best examples of tragedy in modern times. The pacing is excellent, the atmospheric sense of dread that occurs in the first half of the movie is palpable, and the final tragic fall of anakin to obiwan on Mustafar can bring a tear to my eye even now.

[Anonymous No.14963257]

>>14962853
>believes in the Force but wants his wife to become immortal, as if it were possible or even desirable if you have a spiritual worldview
>desires power
>trusts authority figure blindly without critical thinking
>strangles his wife because he just can't be reasoned with
>becomes a cyborg in service to an evil empire, betrays and murders many men, women and children, including his own mentors, and later his own subordinates
>uses torture
>somehow gets redemption anyway
Bad writing.

[Anonymous No.14963268]

>>14963179
>young vader was "supposed" to be cool, and not a whiny broken manchild who fucks his own surrogate mother. people expected fanservice and got this weird experimental psychosexual narrative about child abuse and the failure of liberalism
Oh my, I don't think I have never encountered a true intellectual on /lit/ until this very moment. If I could suck your dick right now without breaking social distance, I would.

[Anonymous No.14963330]

>>14963181
more nonsense. "defeating the emperor" is revealed in the prequels to be a false goal, because the republic was awful long before palpatine was in power and he was only able to gain control of it because of how awful it already was. quigon actively helps him! why would it matter that the guy in power is now a single satanist instead of a bunch of rich senators? in the pre-emperor republic, a "guardian of justice" hears about the practice of cutting open a child and putting a bomb inside and goes "okay, but i'm on a government mission to kill people who are protesting taxes". this is the situation the rebellion is fighting to restore.

[Anonymous No.14963378]

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