/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14951289]

Why is Russian so impossible to learn?

[Anonymous No.14951295]

>>14951289
Because you were born an English-speaking Amerimutt, so it's like a monkey attempting to sound human.

[Anonymous No.14951303]

Because Russian is a Eurasian language.

[Anonymous No.14951319]

>>14951303
Russian is Slavic, therefore Indo-European. The geography is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.14951325]

>>14951319
You can't deny the Mongol history of Russia.

[Anonymous No.14951328]

>>14951289
Why is English so easy to learn? Is it because it is the dumbest language in Europe? Or because it is so widespread that there is great tolerance for errors?

[Anonymous No.14951331]

Because it isn't as aesthetic as mine own Slavic tongue

[Anonymous No.14951332]

>>14951325
I'm not the denying it, though. But that is irrelevant when learning a language.

[Anonymous No.14951337]

>>14951328
Because it's the most relevant language in the world and you've been exposed to it since you were old enough to read.

[Anonymous No.14951344]

It isn’t you’re just either dumb or uncommitted.

[Anonymous No.14951345]

>>14951295
Russian is a language fit only for mongolian-turkish-slavic peasants that people nowadays call "Russians." lmao

[Anonymous No.14951347]

>>14951289
If your native language is Germanic or Romance, it should be relatively easy to learn it.
A mistake some of you kids make is thinking you can do Duolingo for 10 hours and become fluent. The reality is you need a couple of thousand hours of heavy study plus immersion (listing to music, watching movies, etc.)

Also Russian is a dumb language, you'll sound like a faggot, women are whores, it's a miserable place and you're better off kys if you're one of those Western idiots who idolize the Kremlin dwarf.

[Anonymous No.14951351]

>>14951337
Nah, it´s lacking many features that make other languages difficult.

[Anonymous No.14951362]

>>14951345
Well, English is spoken by millions of literal niggers, so I don't know why you're so high up your ass.

[Anonymous No.14951365]

>>14951347
>Also Russian is a dumb language, you'll sound like a faggot, women are whores, it's a miserable place and you're better off kys if you're one of those Western idiots who idolize the Kremlin dwarf.
BASED. Fuck Russia and their gross language.

[Anonymous No.14951369]

>>14951347
>women are whores
that's everywhere in Europe and the Americas, though.

[Anonymous No.14951371]

>>14951351
It is literally just because you're exposed to it. Chinese people don't find English easy to learn at all

[Anonymous No.14951373]

>>14951362
Yeah, fuck English too I agree, but not because black people speak it. Black people speak a lot of languages. Just because English sucks.

[Anonymous No.14951377]

>>14951369
Russian women are bigger whores, anon.

inb4 "but I watched some porn with Russian women and also I saw some Russia prostitutes in my city, they're beautiful and pure and traditional"

[Anonymous No.14951380]

>>14951369
>that's everywhere in Europe
Nah, some parts of Europe have less slutty women generally speaking.

[Anonymous No.14951388]

>>14951380
You have statistic, right?

[OuPi No.14951391]

>>14951365
>this post was made by Ukrainian gang

[Anonymous No.14951392]

>>14951371
>Chinese people don't find English easy to learn at all
Because it belongs to a different language family, but witing indo-european laguages it´s the easiest one. Those Chinese would have harder time learning French, Swedish or Finnish, even regardless of exposure.

[Anonymous No.14951415]

>>14951388
Mostly just travels. Slavic women and anglos are the sluttiest. Then other norther Europeans. Balkans after that. Then meds. Obviously sluttiest here means "having more whores", I'm not trying to condemn whole populations.

[Anonymous No.14951436]

>>14951392
Do you have any data showing that to be true? Russians are often shit at learning English too because a lot of them have very little exposure to it

Most of Western Europe learn English from a young age and consume shitloads of media in English, it's not surprising it seems easy to them

[Anonymous No.14951437]

>>14951415
Dude, I trust you. How can I not trust some fag?

[Anonymous No.14951442]

>>14951328
because years as a widespread mercantile language spoken by conquered half literates with natives has caused a significant streamlining of the language, and that is on top of the shift away from from being a heavily inflected language. the most complex qualities of modern english is it's massive vocabulary and endless rule exceptions (or sometimes total lack of clear rules).

[Anonymous No.14951545]

>>14951415
there is nothing wrong with condemning shit populations.

[Anonymous No.14951559]

>>14951289
Пo-Pyccкий язык нe лёгки. Я Aмepикaнcкиe и я гoвopю пo-pyccкий язык пятнaдцaть. ГИT ГУД

[Anonymous No.14951573]

>>14951377
You don't know American women. They literally blow men in the streets while waiting for the green lights in their cars. There's a webm somewhere.

[Anonymous No.14951575]

>>14951559
***лёгки бляяя

[Anonymous No.14951581]

>>14951415
French women are the giga whores of Europe

[Anonymous No.14951585]

>>14951573
dude, women in most slav countries have sucked more cock than you've shaken hands.

[Anonymous No.14951609]

>>14951347
What about dostoyevsky, tolstoy and all the greats? They came from that "shithole" country right?

[Anonymous No.14951624]

>>14951581
Depends on which part of France. Northern France is pretty bad in the big cities.

[Anonymous No.14951628]

>>14951573
>There's a webm somewhere
Go on
>>14951585
Do you think it's cause of relative poverty or they're just massive whores because it runs in their DNA?

[Anonymous No.14951662]

>>14951609
that doesn't really refute his point. Russian is in some ways a dumb language, but it is capable of great emotional expression.

[Anonymous No.14951727]

>>14951328
Because it's the most evolutionarily advanced language currently in existence.

[Anonymous No.14951739]

>>14951628
>Do you think it's cause of relative poverty or they're just massive whores because it runs in their DNA?
that's kind of complicated desu. can't all be poverty because middle class and even rich russians are whores, which happens in the west too obv. if you're curious, promiscuity is actually a fairly heritable trait so I'm sure that's part of it too. eastern europe (with a few slight exceptions) may actually be more blatantly vain in its materialism and bugishness than much of the west as well so the women being vain, virtue-devoid whores comes along with that.

[Anonymous No.14951748]

>>14951559
Maлoлeтний дeбил.

[Anonymous No.14952273]

>>14951559
Are you retarded? Your sentence translates: In Russian is not easy. I am American (plural adjective) and I speak in Russian fifteen.

t. anon who's actually spent the last four years of his life learning Russian, and not some Ameritard with 10 mins of Duolingo under his belt.

[Anonymous No.14952326]

>>14951727
That's not why it's so easy. It's easy to leaern beacause it's everywhere like a virus and its words are short.

[Anonymous No.14952332]

>>14951289
OP, Russian is by no means impossible, but it will take a ton of work to understand the grammar and vocabulary, far longer than for Romance and Germanic languages. I've taken classes through my university for four years and spent last summer studying the language in St. Petersburg, and I still have trouble understanding some conversation given how quickly the language is spoken, although I'm able to read and write at a somewhat decent level.

What exactly do you find hard about the language? Moreover, why exactly do you want to learn it? If it's just some passing interest I recommend you pick up German or French, Russian is not something that can be picked up without a significant investment of time and effort on your part, and definitely not through Duolingo.

I'll stick around for a bit to answer questions about learning Russian if anyone's interested.

[Anonymous No.14952341]

It's deeply fascinating to try and see Anglos step out of their linguistic kid playground.

[Anonymous No.14952349]

>>14951727
>Information density in languages is a measure of how "good" they are.
Only anglos or germans could say such a robotic non-human statement.

[Anonymous No.14952354]

>>14952273
Not the anon you responded to, but Im going to spend some time in Russia (about 3 or 4 months) to help my reading skills and vocab. Any tips?

[Anonymous No.14952371]

>>14952332
I have to learn it for academia reasons. Contrary to some of the assumptions made about me, I have a bit of experience in other languages.

Honestly the hard thing about Russian for me has been the cases. It's so hard to keep track of all of them. That and the vocab can get tiresome to learn.

[Anonymous No.14952376]

>>14952354
Good on ya mate. Where are you planning on going? Are you going to be taking any formal classes there? Do you have any experience learning other languages, especially case-based or Slavic languages?

Also, are you more interested in tips about getting by in Russia, or just about learning the language in general? St Petersburg is very western so it wasn't too hard to adapt, but if you're going somewhere else there might be a bit of culture shock.

[Anonymous No.14952398]

>>14951328
It’s commonplace to allow for a huge margin of error now because it’s so widespread and even native speakers are extremely casual about it. It’s mostly because you’re exposed to it constantly though. The internet is basically basically in english at this point.

[Anonymous No.14952409]

>>14952376
I was going to take classes in Petersburg and live with a family.

I have experience mostly in Spanish and a little German, and I'm starting on French. But sadly no, no case based ones other than Russian.

I meant more for learning the language. My translation test will not be that intense (I don't need to be conversationally fluent), but I still need to know the basic grammar and a decent amount of vocab. Like what you might expect from an 8 year old.

[Anonymous No.14952419]

>>14952371
That's cool that you're required to learn it, are you studying comparative literature or something like that?

Best advice I can give for cases is just grinding it out. Feminine endings are largely the same across cases, and you can get accusative from nominative/genitive and dative is pretty similar to prepositional. Hardest part for me was learning which verbs take which cases, something that there is not real rule for and you have to learn on a case by case basis (ha).

One of the best pieces of advice I heard for learning vocabulary was keeping a small notebook with you and trying to learn 3-5 new words every day. Write them down every morning, and try to recall them throughout the day in your thoughts and when you see them. Russian etymology is daunting at first, but actually quite revealing once you learn the base words and prepositions, and you'd be surprised how much you'd be able to understand of Russian news/conversation doing this for even just a month.

[Anonymous No.14952438]

>>14952349
emotion is also information you are sharing

[Anonymous No.14952441]

>>14951344
/thread

[Anonymous No.14952454]

>>14952419
Yeah exactly. Dostoevsky stuff. Gotta love him.

Yeah I feel like ultimately it'll come down to that. Before I got a bit discouraged, I had more or less gotten 3 of the cases.

You know, I began noticing that more recently. Stuff like "cлeд" and "пиc" come out in multiple words. It makes things so much clearer when you see them. Is there any list out there of stuff like this?

[Anonymous No.14952501]

>>14952409
Familiarity with other languages is always helpful, and learning Russian will be easier for you than for someone who just speaks one language because your brain will be better equipped for language acquisition.

It's also good that you're taking classes, they'll probably have some standardized textbook that will prepare you specifically for your standardized test, and you'll pick up a surprising amount of vocabulary just by living in St. Petersburg. I talked about my vocab trick in some other comment, and some aspects of grammar might be easier for you given your Spanish and German background. I think that Spanish has similar rules regarding perfective imperfective verbal aspects, and German also cases so the idea of declension won't be as foreign to you. Otherwise, I'd advise you to really immerse yourself in the language: watch Russian movies/news/TV, listen to Russian music, even just talking with randos on the street can be a good source of practice. If you have any questions about specific concepts, let me know, otherwise enjoy it, St Petersburg is a truly amazing city.

[Anonymous No.14952524]

>>14952501
I actually play videogames in Russian. Its incredibly helpful. Unfortunately, it doesn't much help my vocab all that much to know "тяжeлыe бoeпpипacы" when I don't know the word for a wristwatch or aunt lol

[Anonymous No.14952534]

>>14952524
I might also add a word of thanks for your lengthy replies. About how long did it take until you were able to read adequately in Russian? (I.e. you could pick up a book and read it?)

[Anonymous No.14952542]

>>14952524
all my Russian is from 19th century poetry and novels. I sometimes go on a modern Russian site and I have no idea what they're saying. Newspaper articles are a bit easier but that might just be because every other word appears to be loaned from English

[Anonymous No.14952550]

>>14952542
Is there an enormous difference between the two? If one had a modern Russian background could they transition (without too much difficulty)?

[Anonymous No.14952558]

>>14952542
Can you at least understand Russian TV programs/films? What about Wikipedia articles?

[Anonymous No.14952567]

>>14952409
>still need to know the basic grammar and a decent amount of vocab. Like what you might expect from an 8 year old.
8 year olds know their native language much better than a foreigner who's been studying for a few hundreds of hours could.

[Anonymous No.14952569]

>>14952550
Modern 'literary' russian seems pretty similar, but the way people actually talk to each other is a completely different matter. It's also what I understand least in novels, the dialogue.

I dont actually speak russian to be clear here, I just read some older literature for fun

[Anonymous No.14952605]

>>14952558
wiki articles are ok mostly
>tv shows
Never have tried, doubt I could follow along at all.

[Anonymous No.14952625]

>>14951328
good post. i kinda feel superior knowing that it took me a couple years of shitposting to more or less master C1 english, but an anglo would spend decades studying tediously to bring his russian to a similar level
t. family friend is a prof of russian in DC uni, still speaks with murican accent after decades of teaching

[Anonymous No.14952626]

>>14952569
How long did it take to learn to read 19th century lit?

[Anonymous No.14952629]

>>14952454
My reply got deleted, sorry about that. I actually also got into Russian because I wanted to read Bros K in the original, and concrete learning goals are always helpful to have in mind when you're struggling.

Our introductory textbook, Meждy нaми, has a free website with tons of useful resources, although I'm not sure if there's a comprehensive list with common verb stems anywhere online. You're right that the same stems show up frequently, and just by applying prefixes, you can quite reliably understand the meaning of many words containing the same stem. For example, from пиcaть, meaning to write, you can get oпиcaть, meaning to describe (prefix for about + to write), впиcaть, meaning to inscribe (prefix for in + to write), and пpoпиcaть, meaning to record (prefix for over + to write). These rules can be pretty reliably followed for any verb once you learn the specific meaning of each of the prefixes.

[Anonymous No.14952672]

>>14952629
And also пиcьмo and зaпиcки

[Anonymous No.14952691]

>>14952534
I'm actually the guy from earlier. The other guy is right to point out that some things are much harder to read than others, though. I could get the gist of a news article/wiki page by the end of my second year, and starting reading easy fiction by the end of my third year. I can get through most Chekhov now without a dictionary, some Dostoevsky, and very little Gogol. This mostly has to do with sentence structure and vocabulary, Gogol is fond of obscure constructions and adjectives. I still don't think I'd be able to get through any book completely without help, unless it was a kids book or something, and I'm by no means finished learning Russian; I doubt I'll ever be.

>>14952550
There's very little difference, the one thing you'd notice would probably be the recent influx of foreign (and especially English words). Pushkin is much closer to modern Russian than Shakespeare is to modern English, and you'd have no problem understanding one having only studied the other.

[Anonymous No.14952700]

>>14952672
Exactly, пиcaтeль, пoдпиc, the list goes on and conforms to the same sort of constructive rules.

[Anonymous No.14952704]

>>14952625
Anybody can learn to speak a language in a couple years by immersing themselves in an environment where only that language is spoken. It is just sad that you guys consider this a badge of honour when it's nothing but an indication that your own language is so irrelevant that you've chosen to spend your time speaking a different one. You also overestimate your abilities because the English to which you're accustomed is a degenerated vernacular meant for large masses of people to easily communicate.

[Anonymous No.14952708]

>>14952704
>t.Brainlet

[Anonymous No.14952749]

>>14952704
i can read english classics easily in their original language at 18 (so about 4 years of more or less intense shitposting without intent to learn) and speakconfidently on complicated topics without any kind of thick accent. i doubt anglos studying russian can say the same
face it, English is far less complicated to master on advanced level due to its grammar and vastly loaned vocab

[Anonymous No.14952768]

>>14952749
How many anglos are studying Russian, spending their lives immersed in a Russian speaking environment? How can you fail to grasp the obvious asymmetry? Apart from wanting to feel special for having learned a language.

[Anonymous No.14952774]

>>14952749
I see like 6 English errors in this post lol.

[Anonymous No.14952830]

English is only powerful when used correctly.

[Anonymous No.14952840]

>>14952768
i'm leagues better than your average russian who studies english, so it might be an exception, but in general euros are great at english and anglos are rarely good at foreign languages
very few study russian, and assymetry is of course there, but still english for a russian speaker is much easier than vice versa.
for example, there's no gender, no cases, words easily becoming different parts of speech by context alone, practically no inflective endings or complicated verbs forms aside from retarded amount of tenses that all follow the same pattern. russian has all of that and a cargo ship more.
>>14952774
point them out then, brother
my knowledge is based solely on internet and some books

[Anonymous No.14952897]

>>14952840
I know how Russian grammar works and the grammatical rules of a language are a much smaller amount of information to retain than the entirety of its vocabulary and the myriad exceptions. It may be easier to learn very basic English because of it having fewer rules but once you are past the learning essential grammar there is no difference, and English has an enormous vocabulary and number of exceptions. btw the hardest thing imo for an English speaker in Russian grammar is your verb system for perfectives and imperfectives. Cases are a logical concept and easy for people to pick up. English has a very simple genitive case with 's after all.

Again you just state that English is easier to learn, in a world where everyone tries to learn it. Did people 250 years ago say this about English? Or was French considered uniquely suited to being spoken all over at the time.

[Anonymous No.14952965]

>>14951289
Because you're not supposed to

[Anonymous No.14953013]

>>14951289
I've been doing Russian on Duolingo for a few months now, and it is pretty fucking difficult. I can tell you what I had for breakfast in Russian now, though. Go me.

[Anonymous No.14953025]

>>14953013
Duolingo is garbage

[Anonymous No.14953038]

>>14952749
i can read english classics easily in their original language at 18 (so about 4 years of more or less intense shitposting without intent to learn) and speakconfidently on complicated topics without any kind of thick accent. i doubt anglos studying russian can say the same
face it, English is far less complicated to master on advanced level due to its grammar and vastly loaned vocab


Punctuation/capitalization/typos aside, there's a few notable ones;

You *could* read those things by 18. You *can* read them now.

English is far less *difficult* to master (because it is less *complicated*)

On *an* advanced level

Is that helpful?

[Anonymous No.14953046]

>>14953025
Hey, there are worse ways to spend your time. I can now, at least, read Cyrillic writing. And I've been able to make out the occasional sentence in Russian-language movies. I feel pretty good about that.

[Anonymous No.14953065]

>>14953046
Same boat. Occasionally I'll read a line from pushkin and actually understand it. It feels miraculous. Other times I'll see a word declined a certain way and I'll lose all hope. I suppose suffering through the language is part of learning about Russian suffering

[Anonymous No.14953073]

>>14953065
I'll admit my intentions aren't extremely serious. But, the way I see it, if I'm increasing my understanding even a little, that's not a bad thing. It is kind of exciting to be able to look at Russian writing and not just see a meaningless jumble of characters.

[Anonymous No.14953083]

>>14953073
Yes. Unfortunately the alphabet is the easiest part. But I encourage you to continue. It's very rewarding, and a lot of lit women are impressed when you can at least read it

[Anonymous No.14953092]

>>14952273
So he spoke Russian and you understood it just fine?

[Anonymous No.14953099]

>>14953083
I honestly don't know if I'll ever get anywhere near fluency. The only language other than English I'm fluent in is Jola, and that's pretty useless even as far as African tribal languages go.

[Anonymous No.14953110]

>>14953099
Why do you speak Jola, your parents?

[Anonymous No.14953116]

>>14953110
I was in the Peace Corps for two years in a village that mainly spoke Jola.

[Anonymous No.14953124]

>>14951347
Show nose and detail how angry you are that Putin stopped the (((mafia))) robbing Russia.

[Anonymous No.14953131]

>>14953116
What did you do for two years in an African village?

[Anonymous No.14953134]

>>14953092
He speaks like a stereotypical Russian character in a movie would speak English. I could understand it based on context, but no one who uses butchers such easy sentences should be qualified to tell others to "get good".

[Anonymous No.14953138]

>>14953131
I started a program that taught hundreds of kids how to play chess.

[Anonymous No.14953149]

>>14953134
I kind of find broken languages endearing. I like when Russians say things like "What tea you drinks?"

[Anonymous No.14953154]

>>14953046
Bit of a hint for you bucko: If you are not a russian native and haven't studied ipa, you cannot read russian.

[Anonymous No.14953155]

>>14953154
Yeah, I know I can't read Russian. My understanding is very basic at this point.

[Anonymous No.14953160]

>>14953138
That's really quite admirable, anon. Even if you're not serious about becoming fluent in Russian now, there's nothing wrong with learning the alphabet and a handful of phrases, and maybe your interest will transition into something more involved in the future.

What you mind saying a bit more about your program? How'd you get into it, and what are you doing now? Could you make a career out of it if you wanted to? It's something odd enough that you must be super passionate about its benefit, or know something about chess I don't, either way, I'm impressed.

[Anonymous No.14953177]

>>14953160
That's the sweetest thing anybody's said to me in a while. Infer what you will about my life, from that.

Honestly, I completely detached from the program when I finished my Peace Corps service. Most of these chess clubs were in villages with no phone reception and no addresses for mail (even if the postal system weren't 90% unreliable). I do often feel this terrible urge to go back there; it was almost three years ago now, but it still feels more real than most of what's occurred in the interim. Re: the value of chess, one way to look at it is that it's shown to enhance scholastic performance in ways X, Y and Z, but really it was just about giving kids something stimulating and social to do. Especially girls. You know, they're treated like appliances; they spend all day washing dishes. The idea that they have any creative potential doesn't have to be rejected because it's never even considered. It gives kids a way to achieve something and to learn considered decision-making instead of wildly grasping after every passing impulse, which is mostly what they see modeled by adults. Also, it's a way they can communicate with the rest of the world. A boy in my village was even interviewed via Skype by a chess magazine. That may seem rather modest to most of the people reading this, but he came from a village where most people were born, lived and died within a space of a few dozen miles. The fact that his face and his words were being printed by a magazine on a whole different continent was almost a miraculous event. There's so much human potential that ends up being squandered because parents look at their kids just as little machines who exist for the purpose of doing chores.

[Anonymous No.14953234]

>>14953177
That sounds amazing, and I'm sure the program must have been invaluable to these kids given what seems to be the status quo for them.

Did you start this program in West Africa just because you were stationed there with the Peace Corps? And if so, did you plan it in advance, or did it arise surreptitiously while you were there? Lastly, what stops you from going back given how important it seems to you?

I don't mean to pry, I'm just interested in hearing from such a unique perspective. I'm about to graduate uni myself, and have no clue what I'll be doing afterward, so I've been considering some of these international volunteer organizations.

[Anonymous No.14953293]

>>14953234
>Did you start this program in West Africa just because you were stationed there with the Peace Corps?
Yes.

> And if so, did you plan it in advance, or did it arise surreptitiously while you were there?
It was entirely serendipitous. I spent the first six months futilely trying to start a working library along with the mostly useless staff of the school in my village. (Every education tries to built a library. They make for good photos, even if they fall apart within a few months.) I'd brought a chessboard along in a very casual way, like, "Okay, I guess I'll have a lot of free time what with no TV or Internet, so I may as well bring something to amuse myself." I showed one of my host siblings how to play and it snowballed from there, to the point where I couldn't walk through town without people flagging me down and demanding to borrow my set. I wrote a grant to buy a shitload of cheap-but-durable supplies. I barely knew how to play when I arrived; for a year or so all I thought about was chess. With the help of other volunteers we managed to organize and supply clubs in 50 villages, and organize the country's first ever youth tournament.

>Lastly, what stops you from going back given how important it seems to you?
I'm afraid of making the horrible mistake of trying to perform necromancy on something that's over and done with. Also, it was extremely unpleasant to live there; the people (the adult men, anyway) were almost inhumanly appetitive and incapable of reflection or self-awareness, and of course there are all the other discomforts of barely functional infrastructure, malnutrition, disease, etc. The only thing that made it bearable was the intense effort I put into my projects. Without that, living there would just be self-abuse. It just doesn't seem right. The past is over. It's finished. What I really miss is that intense and clear-cut sense of meaning to every day. Crazy to think that perhaps none of it would have happened if I hadn't packed that chess set. My greatest fear at this point is that that will have been the only moment in my life that meant something or felt genuinely remarkable.

[Anonymous No.14953323]

>>14953293
>(the adult men, anyway) were almost inhumanly appetitive
were you gangbanged by savages

[Anonymous No.14953327]

>>14953323
No; I'm male. No homosexuality or other Western inventions are allowed over there, don't you know.

[Anonymous No.14953477]

>>14952349
Name one (1) thing that isn't information

[Anonymous No.14953531]

>>14953477
Let me break this down for your reptilian anglo brain:
It doesn't matter if everything is information. Having more of it per number of characters doesn't make something better. Not everything in life and the universe is a competition for how fast or how efficiently you can deliver something.

There is a reason verbose languages like french are known for being romantic and whatnot. Maybe overuse of English has permanently blocked your brain from understanding this.

[Anonymous No.14953581]

>>14953531
Quantity is a quality in and of itself. A quality may very well be an infinity, but more quality is a bigger infinity. This is why the English language reigns supreme.

[Anonymous No.14953624]

>>14952341
It's deeply fascinating seeing the entire world be forced to learn our language in order to engage in any meaningful endeavour in the world.

[Anonymous No.14953692]

>>14953581
>a bigger infinity.
>bigger
>infinity
NIGGER

[Anonymous No.14953719]

How unto you? I am called Pavel, my family is Ivanov. I study the English in gymnasium and wish to practice. I live in farm with parents, sister and three goats. I will make wife neighbour girl when we are 25 anniversaries. Do you have a friend?

[Anonymous No.14953730]

>>14953692
>literal brainlet doesn't realise that there are big infinites and small infinites
absolute retard

[Anonymous No.14953752]

>>14953692
I knew some mathlet would stumble into my trap. Anglos win again.

[Anonymous No.14953761]

>>14951289
You lack immersion. Also it's kinda hard to learn a language ZOG set for eradication along with German, be prepared for hardships.

[Anonymous No.14953871]

>muh grammar hard so muh language cultured and smart
Suck on this bad boy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swahili_grammar

[Anonymous No.14953927]

>>14953038
>You *could* read those things by 18. You *can* read them now.
well i'm 18 now, so that "can" is correct
aside from that thanks, articles are every slav's weak spot and with punctuation i only listen to my mood tbqhwy, there are far less commas than in russian so i may add an odd one to break down some long ass sentences which i love writing instead of shorter ones

[Anonymous No.14953934]

>>14951289
Because you were born into an analytic language, the WORST type of language
Synthetic languages are the best
Tbh you should start with German and then go to Russian, if you are a romance bro, start with Latin, and then go for Russian
When you understand grammatical cases better, Russian will start getting easy
Its not really a hard language if you start imagining prepositions and adverbs as complements and not things in themselves

[Anonymous No.14953935]

>>14951295
More like a human to sound like a monkey
>>14951303
Ok dimitry, doesn’t make you white

[Anonymous No.14953937]

>>14951328
Broadly speaking, more geographically widespread languages have simpler grammars.

[Anonymous No.14953945]

>>14951362
He was talking about the fitness of the language, not the demographic of it’s speakers you monolingual ape

[Anonymous No.14953946]

>you will never live in the timeline where russia didn't go to the dogs
>you will never live in the timeline where you have a russian immigrant friend

[Anonymous No.14953950]

>>14951365
White hands typed this post

[Anonymous No.14953951]

>>14953871
Agglutinative languages languages have complex case system. That doesn't mean they are (even grammatically) harder than some IE languages. Language may have some complex subjunctive system, for example. Russian youtuber who has Japanese N1 level said that Russian has a more complex grammar (which is not to say Japanese is easier to learn than Russian).

[Anonymous No.14953952]

>>14952897
I would like to know how much is from cultural power

>>14951442
To be fair, I don’t know if rule exception is a good way to even think of it. Usually English retains the spelling of whatever language (givin it has a Latin or Greek script) and then ads anglophone ending. And the exception are usually regular (word from before or after great vowel shift, etc).

[Anonymous No.14953962]

>>14953719
My case is well)))

[Anonymous No.14953968]

>>14953934
>Synthetic languages are the best
Best at being inefficient and stifling. Analytic languages = lego technics, synthetic languages = floor puzzles

[Anonymous No.14954016]

>>14953951
>Russian youtuber who has Japanese N1 level said that Russian has a more complex grammar
That's not a big surprise considering Japanese is not actually that complex, just extremely foreign.
>That doesn't mean they are (even grammatically) harder than some IE languages
They are though. According to the FSI languages in the same category as Russian but marked (with asterisk) as particularly difficult are the more agglutinative IE languages like Finnish and Hungarian once you rule out languages that are difficult simply by virtue of being different like Thai and Georgian.

[Anonymous No.14954019]

>>14953968
>imagine saying something like this in a literature board

[Anonymous No.14954043]

>>14954019
You sound like one of those feminine faggots that is unable to find beauty in engineering marvels.

[Anonymous No.14954077]

>>14954016
>Finnish and Hungarian
They aren't even IE. Neither is Georgian. Sure thing they are difficult for IE descendant natives.

[Anonymous No.14954192]

>>14953124
And instead sold the country to churkas, how based.

[Anonymous No.14954227]

>>14953124
it didn"t stopped them, it just put a leash around their neck but russia is still an oligarchy, most russian ake 250€ per month while you have billionnaires driving lamborghini

[Anonymous No.14954235]

Does any of you niggas know a good way of learning russian pls ? A good website or even a paying thing that I could use ?

[Anonymous No.14954239]

>>14954235
i use assimil method but its in french, ask on int, their is a thread about learning langage

[Anonymous No.14954260]

>>14951325
Sperg-tastic post

[Anonymous No.14954332]

>>14953624
>in order to engage in any meaningful endeavour in the world.
Want me to tell you how I know you're American or British?

[Anonymous No.14955185]

>>14954235
>that pic
How is an American skyscraper topped by a Jewish-Mongol tyrant of a British-Jewish ideology gets associated with anything Russian.

[Anonymous No.14955397]

Lmao dumb anglos

[Anonymous No.14955424]

>>14954235
Pick up the basic grammar and start learning by actually reading simple texts.

[Anonymous No.14955542]

this is me expressing my frustration with learning russian aspects/temporal forms

[Anonymous No.14955547]

>>14951289
probably because you don't actually want to learn russian and just want the pseud cred.

[Anonymous No.14955851]

>>14953124
Anon, the biggest oligarchs in Russia are Jews.

[Anonymous No.14955866]

>>14951727
Hahahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.14955953]

>>14951289
There are literally 2 things to learn except vocab. Conjugation and tenses, then just read shit till you get it my suka

[Anonymous No.14955978]

>>14953124
Now he just takes the money for himeself, his friend, the (((mafia))) as well as the actual mafia, not to mention his (((son-in-law))).

[Anonymous No.14956011]

>>14951609
With the upheavals of the 20th century there is not much left of the classic pre-revolutionary Russia. All the levels of the aristocracy has been wiped away, even the petty level from which many of the great writers emerged. The peasant is dead and the human ties to the tilling of land has been irrevocably broken. The "revived" church is a poltergeist.

The state is at every level basically run by gulag inmates and criminal bands at this point, and with communism dead they don't even bother to maintain the facade of cultural support.

>>14951328
Because you are conditioned to learn it from your childhood through television, music, internet and so on. It is also an amalgamation of several European languages so romantic and germanic languages have many common words that makes it easier to expand you vocabulary and learn quickly.

[Anonymous No.14956166]

>>14954016
>difficult simply by virtue of being different like Georgian
Georgian verbs are extremely difficult to learn, look it up.

[Anonymous No.14956190]

ITT: Seething ESL's

[Anonymous No.14956519]

>>14951347
i think it sounds better than any western european language
masculine etc

[Anonymous No.14956530]

>>14953293
wish i had a cat like that

[Anonymous No.14956957]

>>14953951
>Japanese N1
Anybody who has a JLPT certificate is a retard in my opinion

[Anonymous No.14956997]

[Anonymous No.14957824]

>>14951289
I can help you, friendo

[Anonymous No.14957828]

Okay, so it's hard for an English speaker. What about in Spanish, is it any easier?

[Anonymous No.14957848]

>>14957828
Lean Latin which isn't too hard, then you can learn Spanish, Italian and French incredibly easily.

[Anonymous No.14957889]

>>14957828
It's not exactly hard in regards to either grammar or vocabulary due to the great number of cognates between Spanish and English, but it's awful to get into Spanish-speaking countries' culture.
Reggaeton, telenovelas, Spanish social media are all so cringy that it makes me feel ashamed of ever trying to open myself up to learning about Latin America. Mexican, Argentinian comedy performances aren't exactly that pleasant to sit through either, and often make me question as to how intelligent people who enjoy them are.

There's a few gems in Latin American and Spanish literature, but there's also lots of melodramatic pulp fiction-type stuff that's on the same level as what you'd get from literally any other country, and which is what the average bookstore in Mexico or Spain is full of.

[Anonymous No.14957902]

>>14957824
Help me please.

[Anonymous No.14957934]

>>14957902
ok watch 10k hours of shitty Russian films make 20k flashcards and learn C, Python, HTML, and CSS while you're at it

[Anonymous No.14957937]

>>14957934
>and learn C, Python, HTML, and CSS
why

[Anonymous No.14957942]

>>14957902
Leave your email or any other contacts

[Anonymous No.14957956]

>>14957937
C to learn data types and data structures, Python to make an Anki addon to help with generating flashcards out of dictionary entries, and HTML+CSS to style flashcards

[Anonymous No.14957966]

>>14957956
Can't I just use Duolingo for 4 days or donate $20 to some dude's Patreon?