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How old were you when you abandoned childish things? What books prompted this change in you?

>> No.14943952

>>14943932
It's called growing up, I wouldn't say you need a certain book for that. Although the Greek unironically are a great source of motivation to to something with your life.
On a different note, there is no place as pathetic as reddit.

>> No.14943990

>>14943952
I wouldn't say you need a certain book for that. Although the Greek unironically are a great source of motivation to to something with your life.

Fair enough. During grad school in my mid 20s I, and most of the others in my program, still perceived ourselves as younger than we were.

I think the length of college + grad school extends the time that people hang on to these things, because they can get away with staving off adulthood.

A set of essays about land use by Wendell Berry sort of broke those ikons for me.

>> No.14944041

>>14943990
Meant to quote the post above

>> No.14945115

>>14943952
which books are great in particular for >a great source of motivation to do something with your life.

>> No.14945135

Around puberty because of the "shame" related to acting like a child. No books did it, it was just a reaction to my peers.

>> No.14945143

There's nothing wrong with enjoying yourself as long as you're able to fulfill whatever obligations you have

>> No.14945171

>>14943932
28
>What books prompted this change in you?
No Book, just the death of my grandfather

>> No.14945242

>>14943932
I still haven't. I cum twice a day, especially before work, and I play vidya when I get home. I have no drive to do anything more strenuous than shitposting

>> No.14945257

>>14943932
6

>> No.14945317

>>14943932
>How old were you when you abandoned childish things?
13
What books prompted this change in you?
Pornography

>> No.14945333

What dictates whether something is childish or not?
Ideas put in your mind by the media?
Employers who want ideal slaves?

>> No.14945360

I'm a big boy who only cares about big boy important things :)

>> No.14945363

>>14945360
Based. Nobody can be a bigger boy in your own home than you

>> No.14945365

>>14945333
I'm confused, are you suggesting the media wants to convince you watching the media is childish and corporations don't want you to endlessly consume what they're producing?

>> No.14945371

>>14945143
what if you enjoy doing bad things

>> No.14945376

>posting on 4chan
>not childish
you're in denial

>> No.14945389

>>14945365
he is saying that the idea of maturity is meant to create complacency to the standard of an ideal worker.

>> No.14945392

>>14945365
Im talking about the idea the media has been pushing since post ww2 about "manly men have no feelings we do what we have to do, work hard pay your bills pay your taxes vote on time etc"

>> No.14945395

>>14943932
I’m posting here aren’t I?

>> No.14945426

>>14943932
I associate my childhood with deep sense of mystery, sacrality, and genuine interest in everything around me. I still try to evoke this mindset by certain triggers, but it gets harder with every passing year. The thing is, in modern world there are no adults as there are no initiation. You either try to retain connections with pneuma you had as a child, or become a biorobot, a hylic.

>> No.14945429

>>14943990
Havent beard of Wendell Berry but have added those essays to my reading lost, seems interesting. Cheers anon

>> No.14945430

>>14943932
>When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways.
>1 Corinthians 13:11

>> No.14945438

>>14943932
>Not having a cooked breakfast on the weekend
Why

>> No.14945470
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14945470

People don't even realize the economic damage they're doing to themselves living like this, it sets you 20 years behind your peers.

>> No.14945477

>>14945470
Yeah bro I spend my saturdays learning to code and trading options on TDAmeritrade

>> No.14945487

>>14945392
The only source of happiness for a young man seems to be brotherhood, and for an old man his family

>> No.14945494
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14945494

>>14943932
Consciously decided to stop caring about video games and comic book stuff when I was 18 or 19. Wasn't a book that prompted me, more an epiphany.
I'm sure there was a kid in your neighborhood that would play Star Wars and hide-and-go seek with the younger neighborhood children. Of these people, you would suspect that something is wrong or developmentally stunted. I realized I had become that guy when almost all of the people that were playing TF2 were less than half my age.

>> No.14945516

>>14945477
I have two monitors and trade bitcoin while playing wow. Idk man...

>> No.14945520

I was 19. It was a death in the family that caused it but I also read Meditations around that time which was impactful. I grew up even more so at around 21 and again around 24. I’m 26 now so maybe I’ll grow up again.

>> No.14945550

>>14943990
I’m 26 and still feel like I’m intellectually 21 to be honest. It’s not necessarily a feeling of youth as lack of experiencing anything really formative. I get kind of depressed when I read my biographies of my favorite authors and how they went to war at 18 or started reading philosophy at 17. I didn’t go to graduate school though.

>> No.14945556

>>14945317
pornography is childish

>> No.14945557
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>>14943932
I stopped playing video games when I was 17 and transitioned into a more college-age childish after that until similar to this anon >>14945171
my grandfather passed away during the summer after my 1st year of uni. It threw me into a depression and after I started to excel in school, committed to sports and lifting, cut out going to house-parties/doing stupid things with friends, and started to understand responsibility. I think I read some Nietzsche and Moby Dick

>> No.14945565

>>14945477
>learn to code
>Spend the rest of your life implementing some redesigned simplified UI because having more than 2 buttons on the screen at any one time confuses people
Have fun.

>> No.14945569

>>14943932
Happened gradually.

Was never super into vidya so I avoided that trap.

Grew sick of anime/manga cliches in high school.

Still love to some degree all the cringey music i listened to in my teens.

Even a lot of bronies pay their bills and love their families. Shaming people over their hobbies is the most insecure shit ever.

>> No.14945643

>>14945569
>Shaming people over their hobbies is the most insecure shit ever.

Go talk to people in the service industry in California who have to deal with hearing techies discuss the same 3 topics 24/7.

They aren't insecure, they're disgusted at how monotonous major sections of the population has become.

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>>14943932
I'm 18 now, I think I started losing interest in that sorta stuff maybe around when i turned 17. Videogames is the big one that I've lost.
Nowdays I struggle to keep interested in vidya, whenever I try play a game I usually open it up, walk around for a few minutes, realize I dont have the motivation to play anymore, then close the game. Its kinda depressing, and I kinda wish I could still enjoy things from my childhood like I did back then.
I'll admit to still occasionally watching kid cartoons from my childhood (adventure time, regular show), but even when I watch those I have this nagging sense of guilt that I should be doing better stuff with my time.
I dont think im dealing well with the loss of my childhood.

>> No.14945737

>>14945643
>Go talk to people in the service industry in California
Ew

>> No.14945747

>>14945643
Thats a different, widespread issue thats been going on especially since post-WWII. Because everybody in the workforce is so specialized, its harder to see the forest through the trees. When this extends into the arts, youre looking at something like Infinite Jest.

>> No.14945784

>>14943990
Honestly capitalism has made the act of growing up unnecessary. The only way to become a man is to transcend your silly commodities and putting yourself outside of your comfort zone.

The funny thing is that, of course, that itself has become a product to sell so that you can "get out of your comfort zone" without actually getting out of your comfort zone.

>> No.14945892

>>14945784
Examples of >getting out of your comfort zone as a product?

>> No.14945968

>>14945892
Call me a boomer, but I think that anything that doesn't challenge your preconceptions cannot be considered life-changing, what's the point of eating peyote in Mexico, meditate to the side of a giant Buddha if one is going to come back to being the same person one was before?

>> No.14945980

>>14945693
Find your direction.

>> No.14945989

>>14945487
I feel so sorry for people who lack real companionship. I have a number of deep, meaningful friendships, it really makes life possible.

>> No.14946004

>>14945143
This, really. As long as your keeping your head on your shoulders and those around you I don't truly see a problem in what media you consume.

>> No.14946009

>>14945494
You made me uninstall, I was just playing it. Thanks, now take off your tripcode

>> No.14946061

At the ripe age of 2 when my city was bombed
I have learned through spiritual insight that childish is the state of buddha
The state of timeless innocence and eternal joy
The cold cruel adult world is an egoic illusion of a fetish for misery.

>> No.14946138

>>14943932
You don't. As a grown man you simply move from one obligation to the next. Everyone needs you to do something for them. If you aren't doing 'productive work' then they lecture you on wasting time/potential.

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14946141

Being poor. Seeing your parents always fighting and not having heat shifts you away from childish pastimes. I still played vidya until I was 15 but failure to integrate into the social life of high school made me drop that to. Ever since then I've had a relentless thirst for knowledge and power.

>> No.14946161

>>14943932
Did this screencap really need a pretentious /v/ post added to it?

>> No.14946167

>>14946141
I thought that was a cyclops holy shit

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14946173

>>14943932
You are either: conflating the meaning of the adjective "childish"/"childlike" with that of the adjective "superfluous" and/or "degenerate", or erroneously apprehend what constitutes being a child/childish/childlike due to the perverse angloid notions of adulthood instilled within you since youth.

>> No.14946313

>>14945171
>No Book, just the death of my grandfather
Sorry to hear that anon, my own grandfather passed away a few days ago. I wasn't as close to him, but it tore me up to see the way my Mother reacted to it.

>> No.14946323

>>14946173
jej why tripfags are always the most embarrassing posters you will ever see? it really must be a mental illness that drives people to act like this

>> No.14946329

There is literally nothing wrong with this. I bet that redditor enjoys his life more than whoever wrote that cringey post

>> No.14946342

>>14943932
All you need to do is take one look at the /v/ board and realize how destructive video games are to your growth.

>> No.14946345

>>14946329
so much this! literally nothing matters but feeling good in the moment

>> No.14946351

No joke, 10 minutes into scrolling through this thread and thinking about it, a friend of mine just texted me saying "I've just lost the game :(" like it's fucking 2008 fucking hell life does pull some stupid bullshit on you from time to time

>> No.14946353

>>14943932
I haven't grown up.
I never had any discipline instilled in me, so I cannot accomplish tasks or overcome my base desires.
I maintain a facade of maturity by pretending to have read the many books in my library that I haven't opened since I bought.

>> No.14946362

this is why youre all miserable

>> No.14946363

>>14946362
death is more important than life for motivation

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>>14943932
how the fuck do i stop browsing 4channel (formerly 4chan) all day

>> No.14946408 [DELETED] 

>>14946362
lol the people who do shit like this are the ones on reddit and facebook and stuff complaining about how they want do die and they're so depressed and mentally ill and stuff. human beings aren't meant to live like this biologically speaking and eventually constantly pumping yourself full of junk food and dopamine releasing drugs and playing videogames and stuff will not only burn you out and leave you worse off than you much less happy than you were before, but you will also have nothing to show for your time you wasted, and in the end you will be completely hollow and miserable no matter how many products you try to brute force into your void

>> No.14946412

>>14946362
lol the people who do shit like this are the ones on reddit and facebook and stuff complaining about how they want do die and they're so depressed and mentally ill and stuff. human beings aren't meant to live like this biologically speaking and eventually constantly pumping yourself full of junk food and dopamine releasing drugs and playing videogames and stuff will not only burn you out and leave you worse off and much less happy than you were before, but you will also have nothing to show for your time you wasted, and in the end you will be completely hollow and miserable no matter how many products you try to brute force into your void

>> No.14946422

>>14946345
Wish I could upvote this twice

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14946429

>>14946329

All this response means is that you do these things and you're ashamed because you're doing them for the reason in the 4chan post.

>> No.14946434

>>14946173

Are you saying that eating cereal with cartoon animals on the box while watching cartoons isn't childish?

>> No.14946454

>>14945143
You use the word "adulting," don't you

>> No.14946461

>>14943932

I was always jaded.

Don't get divorced guys. It's hard on the kids.

>> No.14946471

>>14943932
I wish I could abandon 4chan, I'm almost 26 and I've been here since 2008.

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>>14946009
The tripcode is for accountability. Without it, I do nothing but shitpost. I could've mentioned that I lost years of my youth reading barely anything and only got back into rhythm within the last year or so.

>> No.14946519

>>14945556
FBI OPEN UP

>> No.14946522

>>14946471
oof, im in almost exact same position, 26 in a few months, came here in 08, and this place is absolutely draining me dry. I wont say it was completely fruitless as Ive honestly learned a lot here that has helped me IRL, but still, so much time wasted

>> No.14946532

>>14946141

I grew up pretty rich. My parents were always at each other's throats. Money isn't everything.
Doesn't really matter if dad drinks expensive whiskey or bottom-shelf liquor. They're equally traumatizing.

>> No.14946558

>>14946345
Are you claiming feeling good is actually a bad thing? Why

>> No.14946563

>>14946558
There's nobody more selfish than a hedonist.

>> No.14946575

>>14946563
So just to be contrarian you purposely avoid enjoyment whenever you can? Sounds pretty dull. Dude in the OP was just claiming he did that Saturday mornings, not every hour of every day

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>>14945360
>>14945360

>> No.14946618

>>14946558
feeling good is fine but this type of completely hollow hedonism and brute forced dopamine rush on a long timeline will straight up physically effect your brain chemistry and leave you miserable and hollow and often will drive you into an endless cycle of chasing more and more to feel better until you destroy yourself or hurt other people

then to add on to this, you have the idea of normalizing this sort of self destructive lifestyle, not only are you a pathetic, useless, self destructive human being but you begin spreading it like a disease to vulnerable young minds who might not understand or know any better

>> No.14946635

>>14943932
>Conan Doyle, Arthur. A favorite between the ages of 8 and 14, but no longer. Essentially a writer for very young people. Romantic in the large sense.

There is nothing wrong with readong genre fiction and using it to get into literature but there are much better pieces of art to enjoy than just that. The fact you impotently whine and cry betrays that you are aware of this.

>> No.14946640

>>14946635
The quote is from respected writer Vladimir Nabokov.

>> No.14946648

>>14945643
>hearing techies discuss the same 3 topics

Which are?

>> No.14946649

>>14943932
>How old were you when you abandoned childish things?
12.

>What books prompted this change in you?
The God Delusion.

>> No.14946652

Nothing is wrong with this. Societal rules are for faggots.

>> No.14946662

>>14945693
Don’t be sad dude. I was in the same position as you. If you’re not interested in games or your hobbies, find something new to do.

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>>14943932
i still occasionally play 00's horse games for girls
the only type if computer games i play, aside from a rare pixelated rec from friend (Papers, please and Faith so far)

>> No.14946678

I used to play video games all the time.
Then I didn't have the time because I was out drinking with friends and working/studying.
Then at some point I realized my drinking was taking up the only time I had to myself. I was getting fat. I hadn't read a book in years. So I started to fix that. During self quarentine I've tried to play video games a few times, and I just don't care anymore. I drink all the booze in my apartment. I've refreshed social media more times than I can count. All that's left is books.

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>>14945470
You're not 20 years behind your peers when everyone else is.

>> No.14946785

>>14943932
15
vidya got boring. the last games I played were dark souls. listened heavily to music after that then got into literature at 18

>> No.14946795

>>14946785
Moving from one form of media to another is your only metric of maturity?

>> No.14946798

>>14946795
op was asking when we abandoned childish things

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14946816

>>14946329

>> No.14946832

I'll need to apply for colleges soon and I still have no clue what career path I want to take. With every job that I consider I end up finding some sort of flaw in it. I really fear for my future but I don't know how to make such a decision that will affect the rest of my life. Did any anons struggle similarly or do you have some advice on this?

>> No.14946836

>>14946798
Oh, yeah I guess I forgot the subject after reading the thread

>> No.14946860

>>14946832
actually consider viability instead of going into debt randomly and finding out that the field is oversaturated or being replaced with automation immediately. try and look into the future and consider what will be in demand and what wont, also dont bite off more than you can chew because while being challenged is good, perpetually struggling with something you just cant quite do well enough is miserable

>> No.14946916
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14946916

>Be me, Adult.
>Wake up in white room with white sheets. I am an adult so I wake up for work before my alarm even goes off.
>I brush my teeth, mint is a flavor for candy, not for toothpaste.
>Because I am an adult I have toothpaste that tastes like chemicals, that way I know only adults like me can use it.
>After brushing my teeth I take a shower, only medical grade soap and shampoo, normal shampoo has dyes and perfume in it and only children care about those things.
>As soon as I finish with that and dry myself off with a white towel and dress myself in my company approved suit.
>They make me wear a tie, but because I am an adult I have a plain blue one, this IS casual Friday after all.
>I live alone in my house, only young people waste their time with relationships, I am an adult.
>My breakfast is a piece of bread, lightly toasted.
>The butter at the store all has cartoon characters on it, I am an adult and refuse to buy them.
>I check my adult watch, have you seen kids nowadays who pull out their cellphones to check the time?
>I am an adult.
>After eating I clean my plate off, the dish soap is yellow and I hate that I can smell it.
>I are going to send an adult letter to the company who makes it as soon as I get home.
>Leaving my house is always awful, too many young people, shouldn't they be in school?
>School is where young people go, and I am an adult.
>At work they are throwing a party for a co-worker who is retiring.
>I send an email to HR about it, this is an adult company, parties are for children.
>For lunch my co-workers are going out, they offer to bring me something back.
>Fast food is for children, haven't you seen the cartoon characters on their packages?
>No, for lunch I have some rice that I brought from home, like an ADULT should eat.
>Finishing my lunch in ten minutes, I use the last fifty minutes of my lunch break to work.
>My boss praises me for my hard work, she gives me a gift card and goes off to her own lunch.
>the gift cart is red.
>I throw it away, I am an adult.

>> No.14946926

>>14946916
aah yes this is the only alternative to living like a complete and utter degenerate man child hedonist

>> No.14947136

>>14946832
For starters, you're going to have to learn to accept what you are interested in is likely not going to net you a 90-120k salary, so get that whimsy out of the way. You shouldn't get so hinged on a single career path either, because a single degree alone can lead to multiple career choices. Focus on networking and building up a web of connections.

>> No.14947155

>>14943932
>>14943932
Creativity the psychology of discovery and invention by csikszentmihalyi
Except that it did the exact opposite lmao
Only uncreative people are not connected to their childhood xD

>> No.14947218

>>14943932

If stuff like this really bothers you it just means you're definitely not an adult yet
The greatest hallmark of the adult world is that nobody cares about anybody else

>> No.14947228

>>14946916

It's like a really jaded holden caulfeld

>> No.14947270

>>14946926
>aah yes this is the only alternative to living like a complete and utter degenerate man child hedonist
So the reality is that we all need to keep a part of our childhood as an adult?

>> No.14947277

>>14947218
>The greatest hallmark of the adult world is that nobody cares about anybody else
Yes, and that's why we live in the modern World where adults inevitably resort to infantilization, dumbass.

>> No.14947312

>>14947270
>So the reality is that we all need to keep a part of our childhood as an adult?
There is a huge difference between having a inner child that craves whimsy, wonder, and creativity, and being a manchild that passively consumes mindless pop culture garbage where he never has to think or be creative in any shape or form. You are called childish not because you're "being yourself", but because you resort to the mindset of a child.

>> No.14947368

>>14945980
Wow. Thanks Dr. Peterson! It all makes sense now!

>> No.14947386

>>14947277

But it's not infantilization at all
Social media has just made it very easy to care about things that don't really affect you at all
In the past the only things you would care about is something you were physically present for because those are the only things you would be exposed to but your brain is still just a stupid pink lump and automatically has a reaction to anything you see even if you're not physically present
Same thing in the past the people who you would mostly talk to were your family and anybody who you became close enough to essentially became part of your family I mean all of the people talking to each other on the internet now would have never even seen each other for their whole lives let alone interact
So by making the world globally connected what's really happened is we've essentially just turned the whole world into a sort of giant family where everybody is siblings talking to each other all the time and thats where all this perceived childishness really comes from
Of course all of this just goes back to the nature of humans as inherently social creatures which itself is just a mechanism for survival this is why people in the past would expand their family to non blood relatives without really thinking about it now people just do it on a grander scale but still don't think about it it's just second nature for our species
So basically there actually is no way to "grow up" in a world where the collective consciousness has become so pervasive and you can never escape the family unit and distinguish yourself
"Growing up" as we have always known it is truly becoming an outdated concept

>> No.14947435

>>14947386
Yet do you truly believe any of this is healthy or natural? Would you not agree that denying our biological imperative to engage one another face to face to create long fulfilling relationships will have disastrous effects for the future? We're simply not ready for this kind of World we live in.

>> No.14947469

>>14943990
Based Wendell Berry

>> No.14947492

>>14943932
What are some examples of mature things you do?

>> No.14947505

>>14947435

Well of course it's natural humans are social animals so it's only logical they expand their social network as far outward as they possibly can in any way they can
Just think about the word "connected" this word has only positive connotations in the human mind to be more connected is instinctively ALWAYS a good thing
There is also nothing that is biologically denying about it either the whole point of it is to make that gratification on the biological level even more fast and efficient
As for being healthy well it doesn't really matter in the same way that it might not be healthy for a dog to eat chocolate but it will do it every time regardless
It's a common folly to think that evolution automatically bears out the ability for creatures to destroy themselves and that surely with it on your side your own species could not possibly be inherently doomed by it's own nature
This expanded social network can itself be seen as a form of evolution and yet it very well may have dramatic negative consequences which are more or less simply unpreventable

>> No.14947539

Que the C. S. Lewis quote. Is there anything more childish than being obsessed with being an adult and separating things into appropriate and not to enjoy etc.

>> No.14947604

>>14947539
He was 100% right. Most of the posters ITT are either teenagers or very insecure adults. Highly cringe thread.

>> No.14947615

All of you confuse growing up with getting boring.

>> No.14947860

Middle school, after the death of my mother & maternal grandfather.
Reading & running track gave me something to pursue & improve on. I ran faster than 5 minutes in the mile when I was 15.

>> No.14947921

>>14945143
This is what the average midwit says. High IQ person realizes he has no obligations to society or anyone and focuses on self mastery and self control. Playing with yourself is not.

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>>14947435
>natural
>implying anything humans do is unnatural

>> No.14948045

>>14947921
Now THIS is what the average midwit says.

>> No.14948779

>>14947921
>muh self-actualization
midwit alert, the self doesn't actually exist try again

>> No.14948788

>>14946648

Their jobs, vidya, cartoons/capeshit

>> No.14948793

>>14943932
"childish things" aren't all bad. It's being mature enough to distinguish between the awful ones and the good, productive ones. When I was a kid I made model airplanes and tanks/cars. I still do this, but now I do them better (but still nothing special, I don't go full autism, I just enoy it), but I bother to know about the things I'm making models of and their historical context too.

>> No.14948798
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>>14947615

>> No.14948831

>>14946916
This is all unironically based though

>> No.14948936

>>14943932
No books, just my dad dying when I was 22.

>> No.14948974

>>14945693
>but even when I watch those I have this nagging sense of guilt that I should be doing better stuff with my time
I relate to this. This is the only thing I can think about when I’m trying to play a video game or even watch a movie, I just feel like I’m wasting my time and quit after about 30 minutes mostly.

>> No.14949101

>>14945693
>>14945569
>>14945557
>>14945494
You all sound like people who’ve been destroyed in internet arguments about your favorite games and now hate vidya because you realize you’ve had shit taste the whole time.

>> No.14949237

>>14943932
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy

>> No.14949464

>>14943932
I never consciously abandoned childish things and no book prompted the change in me, I just grew up.

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>>14949101

>> No.14949504

>>14946916
Most of this post doesn't make sense. Needing sucralose in your toothpaste doesn't make your life more fun and vivid. Also getting your fragrance from your hair care products is just silly when fragrances like perfume are designed specifically for that purpose and generally do a better job

>> No.14949515

>>14945968
I read a book by danish author "Svend Brinkmann" about exactly this. English title is "Stand firm" mad its a humorous, but sincere take on a self help book or a so called anti self help book. He basicly tells you the opposite of all the common shit you see in shelf help these days. One of them being the myth of discovering your authentic self as if there is a fake version or a real version of you.
Great read, and reading it with Marxist glasses on made it even better, when you think of how all that fucking shit today has been commodified to the point of making life a theme park, with the free choice of fake thrills if your bank account is high enough.

>> No.14949529

>>14946478
Damn I am the same.
Sometimes I feel like I wasted too much time on vidya growing up, but then again I had fun. Now is the time for me to work though, and stave off the easy, but short and shameful pleasures.

>> No.14949550

>>14947921
>Playing with yourself is not

not what? master and control some grammatical skills

>> No.14949573

>>14946916
This is like a remake of American Psycho where he kills himself at the end

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Lifting and Buddhist metaphysics

>> No.14949596

>>14949101
Mentally you are about 12 years old.

>> No.14949773

>>14943932
Define "childish things".

>> No.14950632

>>14946832
>I'll need to apply for colleges soon
Why? Ever consider just not going?

>> No.14950655

>>14943932
Why is he watching edgy nihilist trash if he wants to feel good? Rick and Morty jokes about life being disposable, which isn't feel good or fun at all.

>> No.14950681

>mfw realizing I don't care what degenerates like in the OP do
It's just not worth the energy or brainpower to be concerned about it. yes I am surrounded by drug addict degenerates, I have my own vices, I don't care, why would I?

>> No.14950706

>>14950632
I have but my parents are pushing me to go.
The more that I look into it, it seems that you really do need a degree for most jobs today. Did you not go to college, anon?

>> No.14950737

>>14950706
I went to college for four years and realized (wish I had sooner) it was all horse shit. Why not do a trade apprenticeship? Be a lineman or a wireman or a steamfitter or something. I'm an apprentice wireman now, best decision I ever made. Unless you can't tolerate working around the brainless mutant underclass (iron workers, tin knockers, carpenters, etc) or getting dirty.

>> No.14950789

>>14943932
When I was 14 I noticed how many things got sequels and I realized there's no story worth telling it's just about money. I realized I was just a consumer of dogshit (this is over a decade before consoomer meme) so I stopped. Cant get excited for any product since then and live a happy life with my wife and two kids.

>> No.14950824

If you're going to go to college don't be the guy who goes to college for 4 years, realizes he hates it, rebounds and ends up being an apprentice lineman, and then proselytizes on imageboards thinking that people who don't want to end up with his horrific fate believe it's an issue of associating with a particular class or some neurotic bullshit, and not simply being a matter of the fact that any person with any sort of healthy critical faculty would be committing intellectual and spiritual suicide if they were force to the sort of work he is doing for any significant length of time. And that applies just as much to blue collar jobs as it does white collar desk jockeying.

>> No.14950845

>>14947921
>High IQ
I truly high IQ person realizes they have numerous obligations to individuals and society and works to fulfill those. Individualism, personal freedom, agency, these are copes.

>> No.14950850

>>14950824
>any person with any sort of healthy critical faculty would be committing intellectual and spiritual suicide
kinda like using a trip code?

>> No.14950856

>>14949550
>not recognizing an obvious rhetorical ellipsis

>> No.14950867

No, that's social suicide. If anything tripfagging is intellectual and spiritual honesty.

>> No.14951004

>>14943932
I mean, I was serious and doing the whole adult thing for a while when I last had a job. Now it's just like, why bother?

>>14945135
Only adult approved fun allowed.

>>14945333
Generally it's people in positions of power that want to dictate behavior. The average person doesn't care what someone else does for fun.

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>>14943932
>How old were you when you abandoned childish things? What books prompted this change in you?

>> No.14951240

>>14951234
>abandoned
>childish
>things

Imagine being this much of a virgin

>> No.14951316

>>14951240
You got it wrong. What I wanted to say was, that this post is funny on a meta-level, because 4chan itself a somewhat childish thing. Abandoning childish things is normal and part of growing up. I don't understand how this would make me a virgin.

>> No.14951322

>>14946832
>>14946832
Yes. I got sent to college like I was on a treadmill. I had no idea what to study or how to navigate that environment. I was totally unprepared and immature. It ended up being a miserable experience to be honest with you. I really think I would’ve benefitted from joining the military before going or maybe even after going for a year or two without choosing major while just reading and writing on my own. I also would’ve considered rotc so I could study whatever I wanted if I did go.

>> No.14951333

>>14950824
Because cubicle slaving with your super fun coworkers that are just like a family or the TV show the Office is so much better right? What difference does it make honestly?

>> No.14951418

>Because cubicle slaving with your super fun coworkers that are just like a family or the TV show the Office is so much better right

>And that applies just as much to blue collar jobs as it does white collar desk jockeying.

Another piece of advice for you some of you guys is that you really shouldn't go to college if you can't fucking read

>> No.14951601

>>14943932
I must be miserable, being miserable is the adult thing to do. Even though life has no meaning and it is ultimately irrelevant whether I enjoyed my life, it is still vitally important that I spend my time on this earth in constant misery.

>> No.14951617

>>14943932
19, it was a confluence of factors: i had lost interest in vidya and similar just by virtue of having a social life, losing my virginity removed all my childish insecurities, studying biology at university and philosophy in my free time led me to understand at least one of our purposes in life to be to reproduce and build a family. If i were to say specific books, Ethica (along with several textbooks on behavioural biology that i can't be bothered to remember by name now).

>> No.14951911

>>14949596
Am I wrong? That’s the only reason you’d lose interest in games. Which is pathetic.

>> No.14951927

>>14947921
based

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>>14949101
This is some serious projecting: the idea that one could lose their fervor for video games as a result of losing an argument about their favorite one has never once crossed my mind. Even now, the notion is something I find hard to believe. However, your mentioning of it leads me to believe it's something you've experienced or are capable of succumbing to; you really ought to care less about what people say.

>> No.14952514

>>14951418
I realize you said that and I’m reiterating the fact, in light of that what the fuck does it matter if someone becomes an apprentice lineman after going to college? Your original comment makes no sense. It is very poorly written by the way.

>> No.14952535

>>14951316
>because 4chan itself a somewhat childish thing.
not /lit/. Some of the boards, sure.

>> No.14952597

>>14952535
>not /lit/
a few choice selections from the catalog:
>>14950500
>>14952446
>>14952256
>>14950983
>>14951791
>>14952017
>>14949831
this board is the same shit with a different topic, and it has been since 2018ish

all of 4chan is basically social media crack but for autists. it's not special or better than anything else.

>> No.14953235

>>14951911
Well, if that's what you believe, then it certainly must be the case for you. If your opinions can be so easily influenced by other people's arguments and opinions, then you have hardly, if any, strong convictions or beliefs, and correspondingly no concrete sense of self or integral identity. Such a person is a pitiable human being.

>> No.14953254

>>14945693
>adventure time, regular show

I started watching these when I was an adult and they've only gotten funnier as I got older. Only issue is that they both go on for way too long and end up having tons of episodes that aren't surreal enough to be worth it.

>> No.14953264

>>14951911
i lost interest in games around 16 when they just became boring to me. no one insulted me or anything, i was playing some game and had an internal dialog that was essentially "i am wasting my fucking time doing this, im not even having much fun" and put it down

id say staying interested in games very far past adolescence is weirder than dropping it.

>> No.14953271

>>14953264
exact same thing happened to me around that age, might have been 14 or 15. I also lost interest in sports to a large degree, though I still played casually sometimes

>> No.14953307

>>14953271
perfectly normal id say. puberty kicks in to full gear and you start thinking about girls or drugs or school or whatever. video games get pretty stale fast comparatively

>> No.14953590

>>14951911
I never took it upon myself to "discuss" whatever mindless entertainment I gave attention to as a 12 year old. Your issue is probably founded in being a fucking faggot.