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[Anonymous No.14936929]

I hate introverts physically, I despise those kinds of people. I can hardly bear to talk to them. They have the Chaplin disease. That particular combination of arrogance and timidity sets my teeth on edge. They are arrogant. Like all people with timid personalities, their arrogance is unlimited. And that makes me almost nauseous with anger and disgust. Anybody who speaks quietly and shrivels up in company is unbelievably arrogant. He acts shy, but he’s not. He’s afraid. He hates himself, and he loves himself, a very tense situation. To me, it’s the most embarrassing thing in the world—a man who presents himself at his worst to get laughs, in order to free himself from his hang-ups.

Introverts are ridiculously arrogant. Their "humbleness" is arrogance. Their "shyness" is arrogance. They are as arrogant as anyone else. But you won't know that because they are afraid. They don't talk much not because they are shy or quiet, but because they are afraid. Afraid of being made fun of, afraid of being humiliated. Afraid of other people. This is where the arrogance, and the contradiction comes in. Introverts crave validation; they crave it more than any extrovert. They want to be praised, they want to be glorified. But the fear of humiliation prevents them from striving for it. It makes them paranoid. That fear drives them to hate everyone else, to antagonize everyone else, to sit in a corner and spit on everyone who passes by.

Now, what will our poor little introvert do now that he can't get his validation from other people? He will be put on a pedestal, by himself; he will rub the nose of others in the dirt, by himself, all in his own mind. This is why they are so passive aggressive: they don't need to bring you down physically, you are already humiliated in their own minds.

[Anonymous No.14936947]

>>14936929
So this is how society sees us ... gamers rise up

[Anonymous No.14936950]

>>14936947
haha where did you get this from lmao

[Anonymous No.14936951]

>>14936929
Have sex.

[Anonymous No.14936953]

I feel attacked. Alternating from fake Gigachad because it's what society expects from my appearance and then reverting back to a 4chan NEETlarper is really taxing

[Anonymous No.14936957]

not-literature threads go in trash

[Anonymous No.14936964]

>>14936957
>in the trash
In other words, on /lit/

[Anonymous No.14936965]

>>14936929
https://www.vulture.com/2013/06/orson-welles-lunch-with-henry-jaglom.html
Fuck you I thought it was some good OC

[Anonymous No.14936976]

>>14936965
>implying anyone here has the capacity to produce OC with even a little thought or insight in it

[Anonymous No.14936985]

I WANT TO ANALLY FUCK DARKNESS

[Anonymous No.14937007]

>>14936929
I hate it when artists draw abs on big tiddy girls. Its incongruous - tits are fat, abs are only present when there's no fat. It's not hard to understand.

[Anonymous No.14937033]

>>14936965
Was Orson Welles autistic? Because honestly OP’s post reads very similarly to rant posts I see every now and again, beginning with the initial misunderstanding (introvert != shy, don’t know why OP added that part) and the numerous baseless assumptions about a person’s character built around one single attribute

[Anonymous No.14937041]

>>14937007
It's a running joke in the series that the character is not feminine due to her physical prowess. The abs are part of that. Also who gives a shit it's anime.

[Anonymous No.14937093]

I hate extroverts. I can hardly bear to talk to them. They have the Stupid disease. That particular combination of arrogance and mindlessness sets my teeth on edge. They are broken. Like all people with mindless personalities, they don't care one whit about their condition. And that makes me almost nauseous with anger and disgust. Anybody who speaks loudly and endlessly in company is only trying to mask his own feelings of inadequacy. He acts proud, but he’s not. He’s afraid. He hates himself, while being desperate to love himself, a very tense situation. To me, it’s the most embarrassing thing in the world—a man who presents himself to be at his greatest heights, while sinking ever lower into new depths.

Extroverts are ridiculously foolish. They sing of their conquests as a mask. They ring gongs and announce themselves as a mask. They are as empty as anyone else. But you won't know that because they are afraid. They talk not because they have anything to say, but out of innate fear of what they might hear, whether it be from their ears or their minds. Afraid of being made fun of, afraid of being humiliated, afraid of other people, and most of all, afraid of themselves. This is where the foolishness comes in. Extroverts crave validation; they crave it more than any introvert. They want to be praised, they want to be glorified. But the fear of truly looking in the mirror, from seeing and recognizing their faults prevents them from ever attaining it. It makes them paranoid. That fear drives them to hate everyone else, not to openly antagonize, but to watch and listen, ready to react with outbursts for the slightest hints of criticism.

Now, what will our poor little extrovert do now that he can't get his validation, not from other people nor himself? He will ignore it. Put on a pedestal, by himself, he will extol his virtues endlessly to all those within earshot. This is why they are so aggressive: they cannot truly raise themselves by any known means, so are required to lower everyone around them.

[Anonymous No.14937104]

>>14937093
t.

[Anonymous No.14937180]

>>14936929
Orson is unironically right.

He's a little harsh but he's absolutely correct in identifying neuroticism as the leading cause of introversion, and the extreme and debilitating pride associated with it.

[Anonymous No.14937191]

>>14936929
Is this really how extroverts see us?
I cannot relate with what you are complaining about. At All.

We don't talk to you because you're just not interesting enough. Simple as that.

We are not arrogant nor afraid. Just focused on what is interesting like games and books.
We do not crave validation what the fuck. Crowds a chore
We loathe being in a crowd

We just want a little corner to read. Is that really too much to ask?
You extroverts already own 90% of the room and freely loiters around booming incessant chatter with wild abandon.

We would appreciate a little privacy, decency, and enough respect to not spread rumors about us being devil worshipers or school shooters.

[Anonymous No.14937195]

[Anonymous No.14937201]

>>14936929
Shit, I'm Woody Allen

[Anonymous No.14937217]

>>14937191
>We don't talk to you because you're just not interesting enough

>We are not arrogant

Being this fucking retarded lmao

[Anonymous No.14937228]

>>14937217
>I'm a special snowflake
>TALK TO ME

[Anonymous No.14937231]

>>14937180
Any books that expound on this? I want to learn more about my subhuman psychology

[Anonymous No.14937238]

>>14937231
Karen Horney: Neuroticism and Human Growth

legit changed my life

[Anonymous No.14937274]

>>14936929
>i dont want to hang out with a normie and chat about sportsball
>this makes him seethe and obsess over me
imagine being so powerful that my mere existence causes people to gnash their teeth
>Introverts crave validation
lamo no. i dont' give a fuck about any of you or your stupid opinions. things like "fear of missing out" "validation" "acceptable" are all a pathologic byproduct of the disease called extroversion. i'm not even capable of comprehending them.
>>14937180
normalfaggots are simply boring. hard for you to accept, retard? would i crave validation from a monkey?

[Anonymous No.14937282]

>>14937274
**"acceptance"

and to follow up: yes, I am arrogant. stay mad about it.

[Anonymous No.14937289]

>>14936929
I watched this anime recently. It sucks. When will /a/ get some taste?

[Anonymous No.14937298]

>>14937228
Not having enough self awareness to realize your arrogance and being consumed by cute little Japanese pictures shows your profound stupidity, and you'll never see it, because your stupidity renders you incapable of self reflection.

That's the essence of the introvert, an inability to judge himself realistically.

It's borne out of isolation and frustration. The lack of human contact leads the introvert into having to convince himself that his isolation is a virtue, he's rejected by the crowd, and the coping mechanism is denying the value of their validation by posing as a superhuman intelligence, all the while not realizing his social dysfunction is a direct result of stupidity.

[Anonymous No.14937300]

>>14937289
>When will /a/ get some taste
Never. I filter out about 20 threads on average just to make that place usable. It's not as bad as /lit/ though.

[Anonymous No.14937302]

>>14937228
>We don't talk to you because you're just not interesting enough.
Translation for Extroverts:
>I look down on this person for not consuming the same Pop Culture as I do

You should go back to /v/eddit.

[Anonymous No.14937315]

>>14936929
Huge Orson Welles here, i love this post.

[Anonymous No.14937316]

>>14937180
You'd be right if you were talking about the socially anxious, but there are extroverts who are socially neurotic. Introversion is something else.

[Anonymous No.14937324]

>>14937298
Nah, anime girls are just more interesting than you ever will be.

Nothing personal. You're just a sore of a bore

[Anonymous No.14937348]

>>14936929
>hate
>drones on about arrogance fruitlessly
>generalizes a population under a single title with ill defined borders
>arrogance

[Anonymous No.14937354]

>>14936965
Only half of it is paraphrased from Welles. Where did the rest come from?

[Anonymous No.14937359]

>>14936964
>>>>>>/trash/

[Anonymous No.14937368]

Raises an interesting question Ive been struggling with. How can I overcome a vain humility? I see it as being better to be humble than not, hence I view myself as better when humble. And yet this contradicts itself. How can I be genuinely humble without a vanity accompanying it? Is it even possible? Is true humility found in confidence?

[Anonymous No.14937372]

>>14937354
I’m pretty it’s OP adding some extra flair (or in this case faggotry)

[Anonymous No.14937380]

>>14937324
You are extremely arrogant.

[Anonymous No.14937383]

>>14937368
Draw a line between charity and foolishness

[Anonymous No.14937389]

>>14937380
It's called "Having Standards", which you do not meet

[Anonymous No.14937391]

OP is the fag who posted this in the critic thread.

[Anonymous No.14937393]

>>14937389
You don't have standards.

[Anonymous No.14937402]

>>14937383
Thats actually another question I had. Where is the line? Does Augustine expound on that anywhere?

[Anonymous No.14937408]

>>14937393
Cry me a river. I won't set a lower bar for you

[Anonymous No.14937409]

>>14937368
simple anon, just don’t think about it. Trying to achieve some perfect level of humbleness is a fruitless effort, so just try your best and be happy with that

[Anonymous No.14937422]

>>14937402
Help someone who help themselves
Have 0 tolerance for laziness and leeches

[Anonymous No.14937455]

>>14937408
>I won't set a lower bar for you
That's not necessary, for your bar is nonexistent.

[Anonymous No.14937457]

>>14937408
hahahaahah how many variants of smug anime pictures have you downloaded

[Anonymous No.14937462]

Extroverts typically think introverts are just failed extroverts. Its not like socializing is frightful to the introvert (that is a different thing entirely, which is often confused), instead socializing is only done when needed because the introvert does not feel like socializing is itself an end, but rather almost always a means. It has nothing to do with arrogance, because they see no reason to seek praise or talk about themselves, just as there's no need to talk about other people.

Introversion is not about social anxiety, and if they are arrogant and not afraid of socializing, wouldn't they always go out of their way to seek praise or talk about themselves? Its simply viewing social interaction as meaningless in itself, and being more focused on other things like media, objects, ideas, etc. Simply talking with someone just isn't stimulating to them. Its benign and mundane.

[Anonymous No.14937470]

>>14936929
k

[Anonymous No.14937479]

>>14937462
>wouldn't they always go out of their way to seek praise or talk about themselves?
No because arrogant people are terribly fearful of criticism and seek to avoid it whenever they can.

[Anonymous No.14937499]

>>14937457
Enough

[Anonymous No.14937593]

>>14937479
In school (both college and highschool) half the extroverts would always piss their pants about presenting in front of the class. I would always present and not care wait they thought of it or what people could say.

Extroverts generally view small-talk and socializing as inherently engaging. Failed extroverts are shameful of their low social position, yet the Introvert simply does not care whether he's at the top or the bottom and would actually prefer to be completely outside of it, not because introverts are "better" or anything but because the whole thing is clutter that gets in the way of things that actually stimulate them. Criticism hurts the failed socially-anxious extrovert and even the well-off extrovert who care about their standing in relation to others, but the true introvert is dissociated from both praise and insults.

Of course, both types of people exist along a spectrum. Some are just closer to pure extroversion and some closer to pure introversion, so everybody takes some things to heart and is unaffected by others.

[Anonymous No.14937625]

>>14936929
You should write a book about it.

[Anonymous No.14937633]

>>14937007
You're an idiot. Different parts of the body have different amounts of fat, and titties are one of the last to go.

[Anonymous No.14937645]

>>14936929
>They have the Chaplin disease. That particular combination of arrogance and timidity sets my teeth on edge. They are arrogant. Like all people with timid personalities, their arrogance is unlimited
Looks like someone was in that Orson Welles thread earlier today!

[Anonymous No.14937668]

>>14937645
Maybe. Someone posted this on /int/ and I didn't know what it was but I thought it's something that /lit/ will fall for, hook, line, and sinker. So I posted it here and I wasn't wrong.

[Anonymous No.14937783]

thank you Orson Welles

[Anonymous No.14937792]

>>14936929
y-you too. *turns red*

[Anonymous No.14937883]

>little girl anime
don't forget to dilate

[Anonymous No.14937897]

>>14936929
>this whole category of people are bad and I'm personally way better than them
>but they are the arrogant ones
I don't know if I've ever seen such a concentrated distillation of projection in my life

[Anonymous No.14937962]

>>14937093
>This is why they are so aggressive: they cannot truly raise themselves by any known means, so are required to lower everyone around them.
But this is much better than being passive aggressive, because that's just being a low T cuck.

[Anonymous No.14937998]

>>14936929
>Introverts are ridiculously arrogant. Their "humbleness" is arrogance. Their "shyness" is arrogance. They are as arrogant as anyone else. But you won't know that because they are afraid. They don't talk much not because they are shy or quiet, but because they are afraid. Afraid of being made fun of, afraid of being humiliated. Afraid of other people. This is where the arrogance, and the contradiction comes in. Introverts crave validation; they crave it more than any extrovert. They want to be praised, they want to be glorified. But the fear of humiliation prevents them from striving for it. It makes them paranoid.
As an introvert: unironically this
It's shit tho, at least to me. I want to get better and be an actual sociable and approachable person. i hate being arrogant and i hate feeling like everyone hates me for everything that i do, so i've been trying a lot to better myself in this last year
It is really hard tho, at least for me
I don't agree with the "antagonize everyone" at least for my case, because i genuinely want to like the people i talk to

[Anonymous No.14938026]

>>14937998
Nobody hates you for "everything you do," don't be ridiculous

[Anonymous No.14938031]

>>14937368
commit harder to self-awareness

[Anonymous No.14938032]

>>14938026
I know that's the case, yet my mind tricks me into thinking otherwise
It's a pain in my ass

[Anonymous No.14938050]

>>14937274
>imagine being so powerful that my mere existence causes people to gnash their teeth
no one cares about you. Welles is actually mad at Woody Allen and is trying to insult him. In reality, no one cares about introverts except themselves, because you've withdrawn completely from outer life experiences and live almost exclusively in your head. this makes you seem extremely intelligent and interesting to yourself, but the truth is it's just an illusion generated by your overactive mind. in reality your thinking is very limited and circular, and your interests are merely various expressions of narcissism.

[Anonymous No.14938058]

>>14938050
You seem pretty upset about introverts, actually

[Anonymous No.14938060]

>>14937368
vanity is a form of self-awareness. by removing thought you are removing self-awareness and therefore vanity

[Anonymous No.14938113]

>>14937462
wrong. the 'introverts' you describe are schizoids, essentially neurotics which suffer from emotional dullness due to suppressing their inner drive completely. this leads to alienation from self and subsequently others, and social withdrawal (introversion)

[Anonymous No.14938136]

>>14938058
I'm not. what makes you think I am?

[Anonymous No.14938137]

I was in that thread, too. For real, I've gotten shit for not being social, but I'm a legit schizotypal with an anxiety disorder. When I try to mingle with regular people to make them feel comfortable and fit in, I weird them out, so why bother? I don't understand why people have such a problem with just not wanting anything to do with the social game. I've noticed that being introverted makes some people really resent you after a while, but I think I know why. When Orson says that introverts crave validation, I don't believe that at all. It's when you don't give in to the extrovert's constant desire for stimulation and attention that you end up upsetting them. It's those people that crave to be validated and by not opening up that channel through which they can find validation do you anger them.

Maybe in a group setting, an introvert is selfish for not maintaining social cohesion. However, among two people, who is the selfish one? The one who wishes to speak and be spoken to or the one who doesn't want to speak or be spoken to?

[Anonymous No.14938154]

I can say as some kind of anxiety ridden mutant that this is true. But I also think that if I was an introvert I wouldn’t desire connection as much as if I was an extrovert, so maybe you are confusing shy with introvert. How do I fix it? I am guilty of most things in this but I think I have just enough self awareness to realise that Im retarded so I spiral around and around.

[Anonymous No.14938188]

>>14938137
>I've noticed that being introverted makes some people really resent you after a while, but I think I know why
introverts seem cold and aloof to extroverts due to their disinterest in socializing, which can come across as agressive

[Anonymous No.14938204]

>>14936929
>arrogant
That's right.
I carry with me an unwarranted sense of superiority at all times. I wouldn't say that I'm better than the average guy, but I don't try to hide the feeling.

>humble/shy
No LMAO
I'm remarkably impolite and outspoken.

I think most people are fine. I like them from afar, but I can't stand them in person. I don't approach them, and whenever they approach me I criticize them until they go away.

[Anonymous No.14938205]

>>14938136
The vitriol, the accusations

[Anonymous No.14938223]

>>14938205
that's your victim complex doing all the work bud. none of my criticisms where formulated as accusations, nor was my tone bitter or agressive.

[Anonymous No.14938237]

>>14937593
>but the true introvert is dissociated from both praise and insults.
You mean a schizoid

[Anonymous No.14938252]

>introverts seem cold and aloof to extroverts due to their disinterest in socializing, which can come across as agressive

[Anonymous No.14938286]

>>14936929
Nice blog, faggot. Was that your arrogant attempt at getting some social validation and praise?
Have a cup of sage tea.

[Anonymous No.14938291]

>>14938252
posting a meme doesn't refute my statement you sperg

[Anonymous No.14938295]

>>14938291
Why would people find someone who they know is afraid to talk and as quiet as a mouse aggressive?

[Anonymous No.14938339]

>>14938286
Based retard

[Anonymous No.14938340]

>>14936965
Jesus, Orwell.
>someone's name is brought up randomly
>"I fucking hate everything about that person"

[Anonymous No.14938354]

>>14938295
they don't know that you're afraid is the point. talking is easy and natural to them so they assume that if someone isn't talking that he is just uninterested in doing so. it's not necessarily agressive but it can make people feel judged