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Why are so many famous authors and philosophers plagued by depression, despair, and other forms of internal suffering?

>> No.14911013

Writing is a palliative.

>> No.14911019

>>14911004
Because their minds are the playthings of Shaytaan

>> No.14911020

>>14911004
Most people are, writers aren't unique, they just wrote something and people assumed their lives were unique and worthwhile because of that, get over yourself and know that all writer's lives existed irrespective of their art.

>> No.14911023

>>14911004
Writers yes, philosophers no. Their were very little philosophers who were plagued by these things, maybe had eccentricities but nothing more than that. Schopenhauer was never plagued by depression maybe Kierkegaard, doubtful though. Camus neither. Maybe at the slightest Cioran? I don't really count Nietzsche senile later years or Deleuze's suicide(he was in immense pain and about to die).

>> No.14912198

>>14911023
This.

Writers like artists in general tend to suffer from depression, anxiety, and other mental illnesses.

Philosophers can be a bit eccentric like many academics but I wouldn't describe them as generally depressed or full of angst.

>> No.14912777

>>14911004
People who write meaningful things have a higher intellect, being smarter in this world means increased awareness of the sad reality of our existence and the suffering around us

>> No.14913141

>>14911004
i looked exactly like that when I was 22 except for smoking, liking DFW and the jacket was def. sincere.

>> No.14913164

Because that's the natural condition of intelligent adults.

>> No.14913622

>>14911004
Art and literature is most brilliant when made by a tortured soul.

>> No.14913697

Non-depressed non suffering chads are getting poosy instead of being a nerd and writing about sad bads

>> No.14913905

>>14911019
spbp

>> No.14913932

>>14912777
This

>> No.14914189

>>14911004
Holy shit is this whole thread a joke? Get over yourselves you angsty teenagers

>> No.14914292

>>14914189
alpha male alert

>> No.14914337

>>14913697
This is the true answer.

>> No.14914856
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14914856

Combination of ambition, narcissism, self-critique and too much self contemplation. That's what I feel like at least.

>> No.14914872

>>14911019
Shaytaan only fuck with pure and pious people. Why the fuck would he fuck with his own allies?

>> No.14914928

Essential DFW other than Infinite Jest? I've only read the compilation that included the cruise and state fair essays, which I found to be pretty good reads.

>> No.14914967

>>14914928
Just read infinite jest its his best. that being said maybe brief interviews and pale king but neither are as good

>> No.14914992

>>14914928
The Pale King would've been his best novel

>> No.14915283

>>14911013
What is the source of the problem?

>> No.14915303

>>14911004
The west idolizes suffering in it's art.

>> No.14915328

>>14911004
>>14911004
more pain makes sublimation more better

>> No.14915350

>>14911004
Because they are losers who used their intelligence to create complicated systems of thought in order to cope with the fact that they are the cause of their shitty lives.

>> No.14915375

>>14911004

They think too much.

>> No.14915541

>>14914928
I enjoyed broom of the system a lot

>> No.14915655

>>14911004
Syphilis, mostly.

>> No.14915697

>>14912777
yuck

>> No.14916813

to be in the mode of writing something meaningful, you expose yourself to terrible things. moreover, writing demands a lot of thinking and little doing, which also damages the soul. the spotless minds are the blessed

>> No.14916892

>>14914967
I love watching DFW interviews

His idiosyncrasies and over-introspection are so fascinating to watch.

>> No.14916893

You generalization is clever but not right. Many great authors were happy men, that took pride in what little they wrote and enjoyed every second of existence. It seems that an inquiry over doomer literature was the source for your meaningless argument.

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14916944

>>14911004
They stared too long into the abyss. Or perhaps not long enough.

>> No.14918325

>>14911004
Writing is a suicidal act

>> No.14918351

>>14915303
Uh, so does the east, who is Yukio Mishima?

>> No.14919634

>>14916893
It's possible to be an intellectual and still happy?

>> No.14919818

>>14914928
Consider the Lobster essays are pretty phenomenal

>> No.14919823

>>14914967
How hard is Infinite Jest?

>> No.14919826

>>14919634
Yes.

>> No.14920823

>>14911013
not all statements you think are true

>> No.14920832

>>14911020
this is the correct answer