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14908025 No.14908025 [Reply] [Original]

Is modern education shit tier compared to the education of centuries ago?

>> No.14908038

>>14908025
Yes. They don't even teach Latin or Greek, for fuck's sake. But oh do they teach you about diversity and niggerloving.

>> No.14908041

Read a book

>> No.14908050

>>14908041
yeah, is not like they used to read clasical latin works before and today niggers can't even read shakespeare in HS.

>> No.14908070

>>14908025
Public education will never be as good as the education that aristocrats received in the past. On the other hand, only aristocrats used to get educated. Whether it's better or worse now, I'll leave it up to you.

>> No.14908085

>>14908070
grammar schools wasn't just the aristocrat bro.

>> No.14908087

>>14908025
Bring back the cane, it's the only way to get niggers to pay attention and stop myfaceing eachother.

>> No.14908088

>>14908070
Shakespeare was a poorfag and look where he got to. All thanks to grammar schools in England.

>> No.14908094

It's like asking if healthcare is better today than it was 100 years ago. Yes it's better comparatively, but it's shit if you consider how good it SHOULD be in this day and age.

>> No.14908101

>>14908038
my school did. Also english, spanish and french

t. german

>> No.14908103

>>14908041
Auntie, do you ever create threads? I feel like you would make some interesting ones

>> No.14908108

>>14908101
Private school?

>> No.14908126

>>14908025
No, quality education is accessible to a much larger percentage of the population than ever before. The top tier is still extremely sharp and pulls in talent from a broader base than ever before. Tradlarpers just say it's bad because everyone in the top tier isn't forced to study the same narrow set of topics despite a much wider range of things to possibly learn about now. It's like how dudes on the spectrum are mad that passenger trains aren't as prominent as they used to be.

>> No.14908131

>>14908108
public school. this is a pretty normal syllabus for german highschools, known as gymnasium.(except greek)

>> No.14908133

>>14908025
I'd say with the vast amount of resources online, no. But at the public level, hell yeah.

>> No.14908138

>>14908025
No just American education is shit

>> No.14908188

>>14908133
I agree with this. People who enjoy learning have never been better off and I'm inconsolably jealous I'm not a teen in this era. The people who don't continue to learn after they've jumped through the hoops to graduation remain mediocre.

>> No.14908201

>>14908131
That's great. Although it should be taught earlier.

>> No.14908265

>>14908201
it starts in 6th great.

>> No.14908295

>>14908025
Education centuries ago was for training elites. Education today is for conditioning the populace in nation-worship.

>> No.14908298

>>14908295
Grammar schools weren't for elites.

>> No.14908302

>>14908295
>nation
Globalism

>> No.14908314

>>14908126
But passenger trains should be more prominent than they are nowadays

>> No.14908325

>>14908094
It’s really not comparatively better other than reaching a broader swath of the population. There are more people who have at least some formal education but education itself is worse in almost every qualitative measure imaginable.

>> No.14908340

>>14908025
Modern education is shit tier on its own, no need to compare

>> No.14908350

I went to both private and public school in the US. The difference was night and day. Private school was a quality education. Public school was hardly an education at all.

>> No.14908351

>>14908325
What exactly are you basing this off? Pedagogical methods have vastly improved, and the literature on every topic is much greater. No matter what metric you use - availability, quality, etc. - in no way are you better educated in the 19th century than now.

>> No.14908357

>>14908038
le wrong generation

>> No.14908364

>>14908298
Weren't they originally for the priesthood? Not an expert on the subject, but any state effort to universalize spelling in a language is early-stage nation building.
>>14908302
The contemporary conception of globalism is built on a nationalist framework

>> No.14908406

>>14908351
I’m basing this off my observations of having gone to both a private school that emphasizes classical education and a public school and now having worked in education. If you’re asking for quantifiable evidence, I don’t have it but that’s kind of my point. I agree that it’s more accessible than ever and the sheer quantity of literature has increased but I’ve noticed a decline in the overall quality for sure. One doesn’t have to be an insider to see it though. The rigor of the classroom will naturally reach equilibrium with the lowest common denominator if you open it up to more people. One thing you can’t deny is that the Universality of the University has greatly diminished. The proposition of a student of science taking courses in philosophy let alone writing a philosophy thesis is almost ridiculous now even though it was commonplace not that long ago.

>> No.14908419

>>14908351
>Pedagogical methods have vastly improved
nope

>> No.14908423

The dean of the liberal arts college at my university recently sent out an email in which he wrote almost entirely in ebonics. Call me crazy but the college which houses the english department shouldn’t communicate in ebonics. This is a top ranked school by the way. You tell me if it’s garbage.

>> No.14908428

>>14908357
Yes.

>> No.14908436

>>14908423
please at least tell me that person is black cus.... lmfao

>> No.14908542

>>14908436
I think he’s black, yes.

>> No.14908554

>>14908025
Standardisation. Classrooms. Rote learning was shit but they replacement for it has basically been to get rid of it and lower standards because students can no longer do the tests (that are meant for rote memorisation).

It seems to me pedagogy is all bullshit and students don't care. Before students were well-disciplined and pedagogy was that of an experienced tutor carefully guiding the student through with nothing like later education.

>> No.14908555

>>14908423
Tell me which university it is and I'll tell you if it's garbage. For all I know this letter was based.

>> No.14908582

>>14908554
Before education was for who wanted it. If someone was a bit slow or did not want or need to go to school they would just do manual labor or trade work. Now everyone is in school and pushed into college even if it isn't for them so the standards are lowered and the students don't care because a lot of them would be better off and happier if they could just start working.

>> No.14908586

Mass education is just daycare for kids of wagies, it's not meant to be some amazing education