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I first read Lolita when i was 12 and I believe it has severely impacted my sexual perception.
How about you?

>> No.14899150

>>14899145
I read it when I was 21 and it confirmed i'm attracted to pubescent girls despite desperately not wanting to be.

>> No.14899159

>>14899150
Welcome to the nymphet club boy

>> No.14899172

I read it at age 20 and it didn't affect me at all.

>> No.14899175

>>14899145
Interesting. Can you expand further on how you think it's impacted you?

>> No.14899179

>>14899145
Who are the biggest fans of this book though, the ones who relate with main character about the cunny or the ones who are sickened by the man, yet taken in by the prose and morbid curiosity?

>> No.14899187

never read the book, never intend to read the book. it bothers me that a single literary work on its subject has been published, when the subject is as sketchy as it is. there's a lack of different perspectives - why have we elevated a single one to the level of art?

>> No.14899195

>>14899187
>why have we elevated a single one to the level of art?
we haven't "elevated" it. it was art from day one. art is not a level.

>> No.14899196

>>14899187
Are you a woman?

>> No.14899203

>>14899196
no

>> No.14899205

>>14899203
ur gay

>> No.14899225

>>14899205
I don't think you understand. the predominance of hebephilia is one thing, but what is it like from the other perspective?
how much agency do girls have in those circumstances, how informed are they, and in retrospect once reaching adulthood how do they reconcile with those experiences and the idea of having "consented", if not legally, to them? those are questions that need to be answered from a fundamentally different perspective to that book.

>> No.14899231

>>14899159
Look i'm genuinely not ever going to molest any children and i'm sickened by those who do, so no i'm not in the club.
I just like looking at the nymphets from afar, defiling them only in my mind where I can't actually hurt them.

>> No.14899237

>>14899225
You want a 12yo girl to write about her experience? I don't get what you're saying.

>> No.14899266

>>14899237
I think if you're going to broach the subject, it would be better for someone who had had experiences at that age to write about them in retrospect after reaching adulthood. and in an honest way that didn't simply appeal to fetishizing the experience.
But then, what is the purpose of writing about it at all, and what draws people to books like Lolita? To me the entire premise is loaded. It's either going to fetishize the experience, or be a matter-of-fact retelling about the psychological scars caused by abuse. It's like there's no middle ground where it's something so mundane as normal consensual sex as to not warrant being written in a literary fashion at all.

>> No.14899274

>>14899266
>I think if you're going to broach the subject, it would be better for someone who had had experiences at that age to write about them in retrospect after reaching adulthood. and in an honest way that didn't simply appeal to fetishizing the experience.
It wouldn't be pure. It would be coming from after having sanitized views by society, family and her therapist.

>> No.14899287

>>14899274
By assuming she'd have a therapist you're already assuming one of two things either a) that the experience was abusive and traumatic and requiring therapy, or that b) there was a social gaslighting to make them believe in a victimhood complex.
I don't think this is something Lolita set out to distinguish between, but it's something that could be worthwhile exploring

>> No.14899301

>>14899287
I think you're missing the point of the book. Her view is irrelevant.

>> No.14899325

>>14899301
which is why I'm not interested in it.

>> No.14899341

>>14899325
it's okay, no one cares about you.

>> No.14899351

>>14899341
yeah but it makes me question why you're all interested in it. so many want to pass it off as a literary masterpiece when it just seems like a high-brow excuse to get off on your paraphilia.

>> No.14899360

>>14899351
if you're interested in it then read it, otherwise shut up. you can't judge a book you haven't even read.

>> No.14899373

>>14899360
>severely impacted my sexual perception
>confirmed i'm attracted to pubescent girls
I'm not interested in the book. I'm interested in why you're interested in the book.

>> No.14899375

>>14899373
I'm not any these closeted hebes. I only like the book based on its literary merits.

>> No.14899396

>>14899375
Hey i'm not a closeted hebe, I fully accept my degeneracy even if I won't act on it.
>>14899373
It's a 10/10 book bro just read it, this is a literary board.

>> No.14899413

>>14899396
>Hey i'm not a closeted hebe, I fully accept my degeneracy even if I won't act on it.
Yeah on an anonymous board... Try real life and then we'll talk.

>> No.14899441

>>14899145
I didn’t read Lolita, I just laid my eyes on an angel

>> No.14899455
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14899455

>>14899413
I don't want to ruin my life bro. Leave me alone.

>> No.14899456

Nabokov wrote like 7 novels about 12 year old girls. He gave absolutely zero fucks that people knew what he liked.

>> No.14899492

>>14899413
I'm not a pedophile, I'm not even attracted to girly girls. I like everything about mature woman that know what they want. Yet I've recommended this book to my wife, with whom I have a daughter btw, because it's a masterpiece.
You are judging a book by its cover and you're also judging people who liked the book without caring why they liked it.
You are, by far, the worst kind of poster that could come here. A fucking simple idiot.

>> No.14899513

>>14899455
stay in the closet, pedo.

>> No.14899522

>>14899492
I like the book, retard. I think it's a masterpiece. You are mistaking me for that other idiot who hasn't even read it.

>> No.14899531

>>14899513
I will and i'm not even a full on pedo, I do like legal girls as well. It's not even that big a deal to me.

>> No.14899536

>>14899522
Of course I pressed the wrong quote on my mobile, it's pretty obvious actually
don't be that mad

>> No.14899549

>>14899531
it wasn't an insult, I'm just teasing you bro.

>> No.14899550

>>14899225
That's where we get shit like The Lovely Bones and other YA trash.

>> No.14899603

>>14899549
Kinda is though. To me it's the one of the worst things a man can be.
Nevermind. Why am I even posting about this on a Mongolian basket weaving forum?
I'm just gonna go read, guess its good that you've got me to do that rather than waste time on here.

>> No.14899612

>>14899603
you're welcome. go and read fellow /lit/bro.

>> No.14899620

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>> No.14900337

>>14899231
Anon, do you believe lolicon art should be legal? I don't have an opinion yet (leaning no) but I want to ask somebody who would give a straight answer.

>> No.14900368

>>14899187
Read the book if you want to know, I only made it 50 pages (I'm a normie), but I do realise why it is revered. The prose is god-tier, and almost instantly Nabokov attempts to make you empathise with the paedo.
I plan on giving it another go later on this year.

>> No.14900379

>>14900337
Not him and of course. Drawings are victimless crimes and should replace all forms of live action pornography.

>> No.14900389

>>14900379
I understand that pornography consumption doesn't translate to action in real life, but wouldn't lolicon lead into consumption of actual crusty pasta?

>> No.14900402

cunny

>> No.14900407

>>14900389
>but wouldn't lolicon lead into consumption of actual crusty pasta?
inevitably

>> No.14900408

>>14900389
Not at all. If anything, the outlet has allowed me to break the habit. Real harm should be prosecuted and eradicated. Fictional “harm” should be legal but socially stigmatized.

>> No.14900417

>>14900408
So lolicon should be legal for the protection of actual children while pedophilia acceptance trends (like MAPs) should be squashed and ridiculed?

>> No.14900418

>>14900389
>I understand fictional violence doesn’t translate to action in real life, but wouldn’t action movies lead into consumption of actual snuff films?

>> No.14900437

>>14900417
As a non-acting pedophile, I think that public perception and paranoia should scale down enough so that I don’t have to fear for my wellbeing if i’m seeking out therapy for my mental illness. Otherwise, all forms of acceptance (Nambla shit) should be glassed. My opinions on drawings differ, so long as a drawing is not harming any individual, it shouldn’t be suppressed.

>> No.14900448

>>14900418
Stupid argument and bad correlation.
1. Nobody watches action movies for gore.
2. People who watch movies for gore because they enjoy seeing people hurt (viewing pasta because they are sexually attracted to crust) would have no issues with seeing real gore knowing they aren't prosecuted for it (same for pasta viewers, except they need the drawings as an outlet because pasta is illegal).

>> No.14900451

>>14900418
The drive to commit violence is not really comparable to the drive for sex in this way.

>> No.14900453

>>14900448
1. Replace action movies with Saw then.
2. Wild assumption is wild, of course.

Movie violence does nothing to me and rekt threads make me want to throw up.

>> No.14900460

>>14900437
Are you on a VPN? Pedophiles that seek therapy to not act and know it is wrong in full are genuinely brave. I have no issues with people like that existing knowing that it's inevitable and it's the best they can get. People that actually harm kids and want to get away with it should be ****** though. Good luck with your therapy, Anon.

>> No.14900465

>>14900453
What >>14900451 said. And you don't watch movie violence because you enjoy seeing people getting hurt. And if you do, you know its fake. Pedophiles aren't like that.

>> No.14900475

>>14900460
No, but i’m not worried, I don’t do anything illegal. I can’t get therapy, if I go and a psychologist assumes that i’m a risk (as many do) I have to be paraded around in the public and my life will be ruined. I just have to self therapy and never act on my feelings. Thank God i’m not child-exclusive. I can’t imagine the kind of hell those poor bastards have to deal with.

>> No.14900483

>>14900475
Does the urge to act ever become strong? And do pedophiles that seriously seek help get treated like that?

>> No.14900502

>>14900483
I’m not quite sure how to answer the question. The “urge” is as strong as any sexual drive a normal man has. The only difference is anything you want to do is rape (including non sexual advances). Does the urge to rape an adult woman ever become strong?

Yes, many people like me get investigated and humiliated when they seek help. Most people assume a risk without any nuance. I get it, but it really sucks on my end.

>> No.14900524

>>14900502
If you talk to a therapist about this, and you tell him/her that you're a pedophile, they can't tell anyone. Doctor patient confidentiality. Didn't you ever watch the Sopranos?

>> No.14900526

>>14900502
How do you manage your impulses?

>> No.14900529

>>14900524
If they believe you are a risk to others, they may report you for investigation. It’s happened many times, anon. I’ve heard from men who have been through it. I’m not flipping that coin. It’s not worth the risk.

>> No.14900546

>>14900526
Mostly Isimplylivewiththepain.jpg, but i’ve found solace in non-harmful ways, through anime (and drawn pornography) and erotic literature. I try not to think about it towards real little girls as much as possible, when i’m out and about and I see them I try not to glance at them or anything like you might an adult.

>> No.14900558

I can vouch for him, >>14900524. It's not just pedophiles. They only break it if you like may hurt yourself, hurt others, or say somebody hurt somebody (though the last one may just have been at school for me). It was a real big deal for saying I'd blow my head off, so a pedophile coming in under any context related to his pedophilia only has one result.
>>14900546
Sou ka, Anon-kun. Do you think all pedos that swear off contact can manage like you and not be a threat?

>> No.14900571

>>14899145
novels aren't supposed to be guidebooks/tutorials, retard

>> No.14900582

>>14900558
I can’t speak for everyone, but I do think that most pedophiles can and do do the right thing (my experience in the circles for some time). It’s a tough life, but it’s manageable in anonymity. The real problem comes from the cultures that form around the people who do actually harm children. People who like the real stuff encourage each other for more. Of course there are also the crazies or those with absolutely no moral compass at all who do horrible things with no remorse, but at the end of the day most of us just need help. NOT legitimacy, help.

>> No.14900589

>>14900582
This is some good insight for me, Anon. Thanks for teaching. Once again, good luck. I have faith you'll be fine. See you, then.

>> No.14900590

>>14900589
Thanks for listening.

>> No.14900592

>>14900590
Of course.