/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.14888196]

Dwarf edition

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[Anonymous No.14888205]

>>14888196
Any good reads with cute dwarf girls?

[Anonymous No.14888249]

sanderfag a hack

[Anonymous No.14888272]

http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Khuzdul#Influences

Khuzdul appears to be structured, like the Semitic languages, around triconsonantal roots, such as kh-z-d, b-n-d, and z-g-l.

The Dwarvish language sounds much like Hebrew, and indeed Tolkien noted some similarities between the Dwarves and the Jews: both were "at once natives and aliens in their habitations, speaking the languages of the country, but with an accent due to their own private tongue…"

https://web.archive.org/web/20091019210751/http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/5014/interview.html

This interview was first broadcast in January of 1971 on the BBC Radio 4 program "Now Read On . . .". The interviewer was Dennis Gerrolt.

"The dwarves of course are quite obviously, wouldn't you say that in many ways they remind you of the Jews? Their words are Semitic obviously, constructed to be Semitic. Hobbits are just rustic English people, made small in size because it reflects (in general) the small reach of their imagination - not the small reach of their courage or latent power."

Why do nazis love a work where dwarves (jews) are the good guys?
Discuss.

[Anonymous No.14888298]

What is the largest ship in sci-fi which wasn't comically large?

[Anonymous No.14888299]

>>14888272
Honestly from what i can tell dwarfish is always protrayed as some sort of germanic or old german. It also makes sense from a historic standpoint since the dwarven fairytales started in northern europe. Tolkien also liked to go against the grain so many of his influences on his works are either from opposing directions or completely unfounded and improvised.

[Anonymous No.14888303]

>>14888298
40k has capital ships about the size of our solar system which can hold several hundred trillions of people.

[Anonymous No.14888308]

>>14888298
I dunno about that, depends how you define comically large.

I am writing an sf novel with a ship with a diameter of 1 AU, so it can hold a star and a planet that orbits the star. Is that too big?

[Anonymous No.14888311]

>>14888303
I think you're exaggerating even for 40k

[Anonymous No.14888356]

>>14888299
The whole concept of dwarves in fantasy is stolen from Tolkien, and they jewish for Tolkien. He even unironically talks at length of huge their noses are.

>many of his influences on his works are either from opposing directions or completely unfounded and improvised
Tolkien's own words are unfounded and improvised? The man who was meticulous in everything? That's some assassination of character.

[Anonymous No.14888401]

>>14888196
>no beard

[Anonymous No.14888406]

is Malazan worth reading boyos

[Anonymous No.14888448]

>>14888356
They have Hebrew influence linguistically, they aren't Jewish at all in culture

[Anonymous No.14888454]

>>14888406
No
Read web novels

[Anonymous No.14888468]

>>14888454
okay, recommend me something good, if you trick with a meme I will kill you

[Anonymous No.14888496]

>>14888448
>they aren't Jewish at all in culture
>Gimli Sapphireman
>Badun Goldfinger
>Borun Gemobsessed
hmm

[Anonymous No.14888497]

>>14888406
I found it shallow and pedantic

[Anonymous No.14888502]

>>14888468
Read tree of aeons and chrysalis on royal road
Or if you are looking for xianxia, stories like Renegade Immortal or Desolate Era are good
I also like World Apocalypse Online
Or if you happen to be a Chinese history lover then I’ve been reading The Human Emperor

[Anonymous No.14888504]

>>14888496
Jews prefer banking and moneylending, love of gold is an Arab stereotype

[Anonymous No.14888507]

>>14888504
lol

[Anonymous No.14888603]

>>14888406
The last book literally ends with *teleports behind you* heh nothing personal, Crippled God.

[Anonymous No.14888750]

Are there any books that really focus on humans vs mythical beasts combat like dragons dogma or monster hunter does for the vidya.

The examples that I can think of are either way more about politking (witcher), really bad (monster hunter international) or urban fantasy.
Red Knight has humans vs monsters but it's basically just full on wars

[Anonymous No.14888758]

Imagine dwarves taking off a 12 dick that is much much too big.

[Anonymous No.14888766]

>>14888750
You can try the Dragon safari series.

[Anonymous No.14888857]

Is this man the most despicable talentless hack and most laughable pseud in the history of the fantasy genre?

[Anonymous No.14888859]

>>14888857

[Anonymous No.14888866]

>>14888859

[Anonymous No.14888875]

>>14888859
Most academic history is awful to read tbf, the medieval historians are the only ones who make it interesting in my experience and I think that's because there's way less oversight and prestige there.

[Anonymous No.14888899]

>>14887790
Nobody was in the wrong, any more than two beasts fighting in a forest have a good guy and a bad guy.. Alveric and the King of Elfland's passion were both unstoppable.

[Anonymous No.14888910]

>>14888272
>Why don't people I don't like dislike this book like I think they should

[Anonymous No.14888944]

>>14888875

Academic history is good if you are actually interested in the history of a subject and also appreciate well done history. Then you will find any stuff on it subjects you care about good to an extent. But the more you read the more you want of the better stuff. Historians, even in the driest subjects, can write engaging books, even textbooks, and load them with dope anecdotes and interesting arguments. I'm reading a book about the evolution of the British tax system between 1600-1700s, I know it is dry but I think it is a cracking page turner cause I like British state history.

[Anonymous No.14888957]

Is Warhammer 40k worth getting into if you're not into gaming?

[Anonymous No.14888963]

>>14888957
I'm into 40k because of the games, and imo books by themselves are pretty cringe(compared to actually good sci fi/fantasy)
So unless you're into the tabletop, no

[Anonymous No.14888969]

>>14888859
>wow centuries of fighting muslims and injuns how bigoted....

[Anonymous No.14888998]

>>14888196
MMMMM
TASTYY
DWARF
MRGGHHMMM slobber

[Anonymous No.14889053]

>>14888957
Gaunts Ghosts trilogy is good

[Anonymous No.14889114]

>>14888205
Thud!

>>14888298
The Nostalgia for Infinity was only about four kilometers long. The books made it feel nicely huge, mysterious and dilapidated. Revelation Space series.

[Anonymous No.14889151]

Fuck E William Brown.

[Anonymous No.14889178]

>>14888196
people that have a fetish for female dwarves disgust me

[Anonymous No.14889207]

>>14889178
It's not a fetish it's an appreciation for non standard females. Why even bother with fantasy if you're not fantasizing about fucking fantasy race women.

[Anonymous No.14889216]

>>14889151
>Since it been over a year since his last monthly update, I’ve now left bad reviews on his books and removed him from all my update lists, since he clearly has no intention of remaining an author.
kek

[Anonymous No.14889229]

>>14889178
>he doesn't have a fetish for thicc shortstack females
It's like you're a faggot that likes lanky flat chested women who look like men.

[Anonymous No.14889233]

It bothers me that really only video games give me material to jerk off to re: shortstack fantasy race women.

[Anonymous No.14889267]

>>14889233
Sad Panda is your friend.

[Anonymous No.14889277]

>>14889267
I mean actual original non-porn content. Though Alfie is pretty good. There's probably fappable erotic fiction but I never bother reading those.

[Anonymous No.14889453]

>>14888857
>i get mad online at popular people and things

[Anonymous No.14889568]

>>14888957
The novels tend to be okay to crap with a few actually good ones, but the lore is great. Just read a basic lore primer somewhere then read up about characters/factions/locations that interest you on the wikis.

[Anonymous No.14889636]

>>14888857
No, Rothfuss is.

[Anonymous No.14889659]

What are some other fantasy books that have Terry Pratchet's weirdness?

[Anonymous No.14889685]

>>14889659
Bring Me The Head Of Prince Charming

[Anonymous No.14889750]

I don't understand how people here can't comprehend the concept of Weird Fantasy. Weird fantasy is fantasy that is weird. It's not fucking complicated. Do you guys genuinely not understand this, or are you giving me completely wrong recommendations on purpose when I ask?

[Anonymous No.14889789]

I remember a fantasy novel where a human guy has a romantic relationship with a centaur lady. I started reading it but I lost the paperback. It was probably late 70s to 80s.

[Anonymous No.14889797]

>>14889750
Maybe the anons find their suggestions to be weird. I'm sure that if you insult them enough they will be better attuned to your preferences when they respond in the future though.

[Anonymous No.14889804]

>>14889750

Any good weird science?

[Anonymous No.14889807]

>>14889750
weird fantasy is a made up genre

[Anonymous No.14889831]

>>14889807
every genre is made up you dipshit

[Anonymous No.14889842]

>>14889831
If you were a genre you'd be grumpy genre.

[Anonymous No.14889934]

>>14888957
Read Space Marine by Ian Watson and you'll have read everything 40k worth reading

[Anonymous No.14889962]

Just dropping my request about orc fiction from the previous thread here if anyone comes along

>>14885012

[Anonymous No.14890274]

desu i'm mildly upset I haven't read a fantasy novel I've enjoyed as much as Delicious in Dungeon

[Anonymous No.14890276]

>>14889750
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_weird

[Anonymous No.14890287]

Is it possible to have comfy (read not edgy) dark fantasy?

[Anonymous No.14890288]

>>14889750
>are you giving me completely wrong recommendations on purpose when I ask?
The usual is that anyone who bothers responding is that they will only recommend what they you want to read rather than what you asked for.

[Anonymous No.14890290]

>>14890274
just be patient anon. the flavoranon book will be done eventually. haha who am I kidding. I'm 80k words in, barely half-way done and most of that will need to be re-written

[Anonymous No.14890295]

>>14890287
Could you explain what you feel like "comfy dark fantasy" would be like?

[Anonymous No.14890301]

>>14890274
I read some of it but didn't really care overall and dropped it.

[Anonymous No.14890310]

>>14890290
>>14890301
I just really like the characters and their chemistry on top of playing with typical dnd fantasy tropes but not going over the top with it.

I tried reading Terry Pratchett multiple times but that flavor of british comedy where it's super silly and thinks itself very clever doesn't sit well with me very often.

[Anonymous No.14890319]

>>14890287
in theory

[Anonymous No.14890321]

>>14890295
Fantasy with dark or even depressing themes, but isn't totally bleak. Bad things might be happening, but it's somehow still escapist in essence. I guess when things are bad, but not all bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXj7_zUh2ok

[Anonymous No.14890328]

>>14890301
In my experience it's TTRPG players that enjoy it the most. It's probably the most literal and well-done example of "dungeon ecology" or "gygaxian naturalism" to be found anywhere. It also has no videogamey "mechanics" element which is a breath of fresh air for fantasy manga

It's also legitimately well written

[Anonymous No.14890333]

>>14890328
Yeah it's definitely more appealing to fans of tabletop and world building more than the broader fantasy fan.

[Anonymous No.14890342]

>>14890321
I hope you realize that the "comfiness" you felt while playing Dark Souls can't be effectively replicated in written text because it relies upon repetition, upon repetition, upon repetition, until you succeed and give you a rush.

[Anonymous No.14890347]

>>14890333
We agree but I'd still like to encourage anyone *not* into worldbuilding to give it a try. It's funny and comfy.

[Anonymous No.14890352]

>>14890347
Yeah I think it's great regardless of where in the genre it falls.

[Anonymous No.14890365]

>>14890328
My main problem was that I couldn't have cared less about the characters or anything they were doing. The plot only existed as an excuse for cooking and was otherwise irrelevant. It was fine, but I didn't have any compelling reason to continue reading.

[Anonymous No.14890366]

>>14890321
>>14890342
>Bad things might be happening, but it's somehow still escapist in essence
>repetition, upon repetition, upon repetition
My brothers, you are looking for the complete works of Robert E. Howard

[Anonymous No.14890371]

>>14890365
The cooking gets a bit less focus as time goes on. That's actually a gripe for people for whom the cooking was a selling point

[Anonymous No.14890381]

>>14890365
You should read at least up to when the elf gets stoned. It's a pretty quick read.

[Anonymous No.14890384]

>>14890381
>>14890371
My last comment is that I read the first four volumes because that's all that was out in English at the time.

[Anonymous No.14890424]

Since we're bringing up weeb shit, anyone have recs for books that blend up soft sci-fi with heavy religious/mystic iconography, like pic related? I've heard Hyperion does it and the movie 9 is a bit TOO similar.

[Anonymous No.14890432]

>>14890424
That had terrible cg.

[Anonymous No.14890441]

>>14890432
It's one of the better CGI anime, but the manga looks better yes.

[Anonymous No.14890454]

>>14890342
No because I'm not bad at video games

[Anonymous No.14890460]

>>14890424
Lord of Light 100%

[Anonymous No.14890466]

>>14890454 Yeah ok

[Anonymous No.14890491]

>>14890460
I meant to read something by Zelazny soon so this is perfect. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.14890538]

>>14889962
The Unspoken Name is about an orc priestess. I haven't read it, it's just something new that came out.

>>14889750
Vurt maybe. It's a modern setting written in cyberpunk style but the basis of the plot is magic.

[Anonymous No.14890545]

>reading book
>it's bad
>people said it was good
>but it's bad

Do you keep reading it anyway?

[Anonymous No.14890548]

>>14890545
No.

[Anonymous No.14890562]

>>14890548
Sometimes I wonder if I'm dumb or ADHD is real or something because I'll start reading something that's praised but I'm not motivated to finish it at all.

Like I kept hearing how great Sabriel is over and over but I was so bored.

[Anonymous No.14890564]

>>14890545
I look into what exactly people find good and try to work out if those things just don't do it for me or if the people are just wrong

[Anonymous No.14890567]

>>14890287
>>14890321
The Night Land

[Anonymous No.14890574]

>>14890567
based and waterpilled

[Anonymous No.14890581]

>>14890545
No. There's no accounting for taste.

[Anonymous No.14890603]

>>14890562
Ozy: I am currently eating chickpeas and rice and I am _delighted_ by the fact that I can eat this _whenever I want_ The nice thing about DISCOVERING YOUR FOOD PREFERENCES is that suddenly all the food in my cupboards is food I like and am looking forward to eating. and usually I get food I like by, like, luck? So this is excitement.

Scott: I don’t understand, why didn’t you buy things like that before?

Ozy: It took me a while to have enough of a sense of the food I like for “make a list of the food I like” to be a viable grocery-list-making strategy.

Scott: I’ve got to admit I’m confused and intrigued by your “don’t know my own preferences” thing.

Ozy: Hrm. Well, it’s sort of like… you know how sometimes you pretend to like something because it’s high-status, and if you do it well enough you _actually believe_ you like the thing? Unless I pay a lot of attention _all_ my preferences end up being not “what I actually enjoy” but like “what is high status” or “what will keep people from getting angry at me”

Scott: How does that apply to food?

Ozy: Well, sometimes people will tell you a certain food is high-status or healthy or a thing that everyone enjoys, and then I would like it. And a lot of times I just ate whatever was in front of me or ordered whatever the cheapest vegetarian thing on the menu was. And I… sort of vaguely had a sense that some things were more pleasurable to eat than other things but I didn’t like _keep track_ of what they were or anything. Because if I knew I might like the _wrong things_. And also because I didn’t intuitively grasp that the “liking” thing everyone was talking about was related to pleasure and not to like popularity/status.


https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/03/17/what-universal-human-experiences-are-you-missing-without-realizing-it/

[Anonymous No.14890683]

>>14890562
>Sabriel
I think it's overrated. I also hated the Golden Compass trilogy. I have no problems with lots of other YA and heroines.

[Anonymous No.14890687]

>>14890683
I never got into the golden compass books but the hbo series was watchable.

It's in that really weird line of dark for kids but boring for adults. (I thought Sabriel did this too)

[Anonymous No.14890706]

>a week into writing every day
>writers block slaps me in the face again with its meat

[Anonymous No.14890716]

>>14890706
"writer's block" is a symptom and not something in of itself.

[Anonymous No.14890742]

>>14890706
Well c'mon give us a taste. Do you need a plot hook, having trouble how characters' timelineslinesliss are interacting?

[Anonymous No.14890774]

>>14890742
long story short, the party is on trial for a bunch of crimes, but the lord trying them is willing to cut them an under the table deal. He'll spare them and even help them on their quest, but the main character has to take the blame for everything and get executed.

I wrote this scene last night, but now I'm realizing the MC isn't acting sufficiently outraged for his personality. I want to re-write part of it so he demands a trial by combat but I'm not sure how to handle the transition from private meeting back to the courtroom

[Anonymous No.14890791]

Nothing makes me drop a book faster than politicking

[Anonymous No.14890795]

>>14890791
define

[Anonymous No.14890798]

>>14890795
The Witcher doing anything other than slaying monsters and pussy

[Anonymous No.14890801]

>>14890798
Oh sorry I don't read young adult

[Anonymous No.14890822]

>>14888857
Only middling IQs hate him. Too smart to appreciate murder and betrayal on their own merit. But too stupid to appreciate the complexity and depth.

Middling IQs are for example: people who think they're smart for stating how boring Superman's character is because he's too strong. It's one level above the average tard who argues Kryptonite is a weakness. But not quite smart enough to grasp what Superman's existence actually means.

[Anonymous No.14890855]

>>14890538
>The Unspoken Name
Will check out, thanks.

[Anonymous No.14891044]

>>14890791
I don't mind it, as long as it doesn't become tedious, which it almost always does. I prefer it when the focus is on the people beneath the politics, like the king's bodyguard who has to make sure his asshole liege doesn't get his head cut off because he's cavorted with the wrong princess or signed a pact with slightly unfavourable terms.

On an unrelated note, are there any good examples of a powerful protagonist or antagonist who became (or becomes over the course of the story) powerful by breaking the rules of the setting? Say, for instance, a world in which magic-users rule, but the protagonist is useless with magic, so he goes about bending every single magical rule he can to artificially boost his own abilities, either by re-purposing existing magical items or concepts, or by essentially cheesing his way into power. Ideally in a setting where magic is a slightly more nebulous concept and not strictly quantified like in all these "I woke up in an RPG with a big titty follower, and also I'm Japanese"-genre stories.

[Anonymous No.14891318]

>>14890822
>But too stupid to appreciate the complexity and depth.
He takes the complexity too far in the later books. Too many characters and subplots caused him to lose focus of the story (which is why he hasn't published one since 2011)

[Anonymous No.14891396]

>>14890287
Jack Fray, Cry Havoc.

[Anonymous No.14891433]

>>14890822
gurm isn't deep. he's messy not complex

[Anonymous No.14891500]

>>14890822
This, pretty much. You see an impressive amount of somewhat literate people who like to go "it's bad because uhhh court intrigue and many characters", even though that may as well be describing most of Shakespeare's historical plays, or I, Claudius, one of the most highly regarded TV dramas in history. But no, dynastic struggles bad because commoners like them.

[Anonymous No.14891529]

>>14888504
Love of gold is a absolutely is a Jewish stereotype.

>>14888448
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_(Middle-earth)#The_Hobbit

Tolkien was now influenced by his own selective reading of medieval texts regarding the Jewish people and their history.[6] The dwarves' characteristics of being dispossessed of their homeland (the Lonely Mountain, their ancestral home, is the goal the exiled Dwarves seek to reclaim), and living among other groups whilst retaining their own culture are all derived from the medieval image of Jews,[6][7] whilst their warlike nature stems from accounts in the Hebrew Bible.[6] Medieval views of Jews also saw them as having a propensity for making well-crafted and beautiful things,[6] a trait shared with Norse dwarves.[3] For The Hobbit almost all dwarf-names are taken from the Dvergatal or "Catalogue of the Dwarves", found in the Poetic Edda.[a] However, more than just supplying names, the "Catalogue of the Dwarves" appears to have inspired Tolkien to supply meaning and context to the list of names—that they travelled together, and this in turn became the quest told of in The Hobbit.[10] The Dwarves' written language is represented on maps and in illustrations by Anglo-Saxon Runes. The Dwarf calendar invented for The Hobbit reflects the Jewish calendar in beginning in late autumn.

I bet you didn't even know the dwarven calendar is the same as the Jewish calendar, eh. It would be funny to see a bunch of nazis dressed up as their aryan heroes only to realize they're speaking Hebrew and adopting Jewish customs.

[Anonymous No.14891637]

>>14888406
I just finished the first book. I listened to the audiobook, which in retrospect was a good idea because I don't know if I could have summoned the interest to finish it if I had to fully concentrate on it, rather than listening to it as I did other shit. I found the characters uninteresting and forgettable, and the story meandering and largely pointless. People say it gets better after a few books, but I don't know if/when I'll pick up the next one.

[Anonymous No.14891985]

>>14891044
I don't mind when it's part of the theming of the story and the characters get wrapped up in it but like you said, it gets tedious very often.

[Anonymous No.14892037]

>>14891529
>It would be funny to see a bunch of nazis dressed up as their aryan heroes only to realize they're speaking Hebrew and adopting Jewish customs.
that's exactly the point of naziism, retard, Hitler was jealous of Jewish exceptionalism and racial spirit so he tried setting up the Germans to copy it, right down to Book of Joshua-style ethnic cleansing. Also who tf dresses up as a dwarf or calls a dwarf an aryan hero

[Anonymous No.14892082]

Is the book of grudges just a Warhammer thing?

[Anonymous No.14892241]

Thanks to almost everything shutting down due to Corona-chan, I've been going through the Hugo and Nebula awards nominee lists on wikipedia and picked up stories when the synopsis sounded interesting.
I'd be grateful for some recommendations based on the authors I've read.

>Liked:
John Scalzi
Stephen Baxter
Jack McDevitt

>Disliked:
Ken MacLeod
Bruce Sterling
Mike Resnick
William D Shunn

[Anonymous No.14892262]

Can anyone recommend me some fantasy novels with horror elements?

[Anonymous No.14892263]

>>14892082
I think so, but I love the idea of it.

[Anonymous No.14892284]

>>14892262
try Cliver Barkers Abarat series

[Anonymous No.14892298]

>>14890287
The broken empire series....
one of my favorites....

[Anonymous No.14892309]

>>14890287
the broken empire series by Mark Lawrence...
very cool...

[Anonymous No.14892406]

>>14892298
>>14892309
Not the same poster, I'm sure.

[Anonymous No.14892416]

>>14892406
They're different posters....
Accept it....

[Anonymous No.14892624]

>>14892416
Okay.....
We will....

[Anonymous No.14892772]

Recommend me some edgy fantasy shit, preferably published in the last 10 years. Read "The Library at Mount Char" recently, it was just bad.

[Anonymous No.14892780]

>>14892772
Night Angel trilogy.

[Anonymous No.14892849]

>>14890567
>>14890574
So how bizarre is this shit? People talk about it like it's the absolute cream of the crop of weird fiction.

[Anonymous No.14892926]

>>14892849
>lo! spooky lights
>lo! spooky landscape
>lo! the scary house with lights on despite nobody living there
>lo! inscrutable past
>lo! the end of times
>lo! a squid
In some ways it's pretty neat because it was ahead of its, even when it comes to it's use of ye olde archaice Englishe. However, it's from a time where people hadn't yet grown up with the popular sentiment that humans are very likely utterly unimportant on a cosmic scale. World War 1 really helped in that regard.

[Anonymous No.14893107]

>>14892772
Prince of Nothing trilogy.

[Anonymous No.14893281]

>>14892241
>Corona-chan
I wonder if Shade make a Corona chan comic yet...

[Anonymous No.14893362]

>>14892849
IDK man I tried it and it felt like spooky LotR. The monster in your picture is literally eye of sauron.

[Anonymous No.14893374]

>>14888406
First book is a little messy because the author didn't fully iron things out yet, second book is a good place to figure out if you want to read the rest or not. Bauchelain and Korbal Broach stand-alone books are funny

[Anonymous No.14893430]

>>14888406
yes. its dense. fantasy for men, not edgy cucks. male characters are great, women not awful. great world building

[Anonymous No.14893433]

What is the reading Order for Will Wight's Double Pirate series?
Do you have to read both book ones before you read their book twos?

[Anonymous No.14893486]

>>14892849
As soon as I reached the chapters about the Night Land my brain shut off from sheer boredom

[Anonymous No.14893529]

>>14891529
speaking as someone who actually is jewish, the dwarf comparison - though relatively flattering compared to what other ethnic groups get coded as - hasn't really matched either our self image or our stereotypes since at least WWII. Goblins have always been the jewish stereotype race, which is why despite loving the harry potter books as a kid, gringotts alway put me on edge. actually, thinking about it now though, the comparison goes a lot deeper.

a goblin's place in the world always depends on how divided the world is. in times of peace, they're the first "monster race" to find a place in the united world, serving as engineers and businessmen. in times of strife, they're the first to be turned out. excluded from society, they're the most likely to be attacked by adventurers, and the least able to defend themselves. its not a perfect metaphor I suppose, especially when you extend it. maybe changelings are a better, but their fantasy identity is too inconsistent for me to make a call

[Anonymous No.14893597]

>>14893433
Yes. They’re opposite sides of the same story. But that said, the boy mc is a hell of a lot better than his female mc. What a shitty reddit template femc she is.

[Anonymous No.14893600]

>>14892926
>However, it's from a time where people hadn't yet grown up with the popular sentiment that humans are very likely utterly unimportant on a cosmic scale.
that makes it even more interesting - "you are weak, you are insignificant, you are destined to die out with your puny world, but you are still important on a cosmic scale, your actions matter even if the night will swallow them, there are Good Forces that will help you in your deepest need but no more" is a sentiment lost on many moderns

[Anonymous No.14893605]

>>14893486
Sorry to break it to you but it's been shut off a lot longer than that

[Anonymous No.14893625]

>>14893597
So read book one book one, then book two, book two?
Start with the gril or the boi?

[Anonymous No.14893657]

>>14893625
Correct. And it doesn’t really matter which one you start with. I like the guy better, and his books are more enjoyable. But you really can read either one first.

[Anonymous No.14893745]

Does anyone have the custom kindle dictionary for Dune?

I'm tempted to just grab a physical copy to avoid all this constant back and forth.

[Anonymous No.14894076]

>>14893657
Are the books even any good?
Is there magic? Or is it just some traveling on a boat and the meet up with some darkness?

[Anonymous No.14894286]

Pls lit bros any good fantasy/urban fantasy book or preferably book series like World of Darkness?

[Anonymous No.14894392]

>>14894286
The Laundry Files

[Anonymous No.14894625]

>>14894076
They’re “ok”. I think they would have been a lot better if he just focused on one of the PoVs (The sailors). There is magic, primarily gained from bargaining with antediluvian lovecraftian horrors and/or harvesting bits of their offspring to use in items or rituals.

[Anonymous No.14894632]

>>14894625
Ahh. So it's his take on lovecraft?
Like House of Blades was his take on Anime, and Cradle was his take on cultivation genre?

What powers do they get? Making people go crazy? Giving them Nightmares?

[Anonymous No.14894691]

>>14894632
Depends. There are 8 big baddies ruling over humanity and each one of them has their own domain.
That said, it’s still pretty anime, especially the assassin girl books.

[Anonymous No.14894811]

Just finished this. Picked it up because it was a nominee for the philip k. dick award and I haven't read anything from Finland aside from benis:DDDDD. I wasn't particularly impressed but at least the book is relatively short. Not unpleasant to read but that's it.
TLDR: world is shitty, relatively little happens, little is resolved.

[Anonymous No.14894812]

>>14893600
This. That bit when he rescued the girl and a faint halo of light saved them from some fucked living buzzsaw tree thing was amazing.

[Anonymous No.14894822]

Just finished this, it was pretty good. It's taking Burroughs' Venus and putting a hard scifi spin on it while keeping all the superficial Burroughsian elements like taming an animal companion, banging a Venusian princess and slaying despicable ape men.

[Anonymous No.14894990]

What are some good novels revolving around a tribal/primitive culture coming in contact with significantly more advanced ones?

[Anonymous No.14895178]

>>14894990
Age of Myth by Michael J. Sullivan

It's not bad so far, and it's pretty close to that.

[Anonymous No.14895186]

Where is the best place to stop with the Dune books?

[Anonymous No.14895242]

>>14895186
Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune. The rest you can ignore.

[Anonymous No.14895300]

>>14895186
God Emperor is often considered the be the best "end of the saga" point.
Dune Heretics and Chapterhouse aren't bad from what I hear, but they begin another plotline that never gets resolved because Frank died before he could finish it and then his son butchered the series for a quick dime.

[Anonymous No.14895305]

>>14894990
Clan of the Cave Bear somewhat. It's about Neanderthals coming into contact with Homo Sapians.

[Anonymous No.14895311]

>>14894286
The two Tarot Sequence (starts with The Last Sun) books out so far are very WoD influenced although it's set in an explicitly fae city so there's not the undercover stuff you see in about 75% of WoD settings/games

[Anonymous No.14895321]

>>14895242
>leaving out the best two books after the original
lol

[Anonymous No.14895332]

>>14895321
I legit forgot about them. I haven't read Dune in about 10 years and I think I compressed five books into three in my head.

[Anonymous No.14895581]

Just finished. It was more underwhelming than I thought it would be.

Premise: Imagine Kant was right - that there is the objective world, the thing-in-itself, and humans, with their faculties, view the world in a certain way (as ultimately shaped/defined by their faculties). Now imagine we make an AI that is NOT shaped like the human mind, that can somehow get more direct access to the thing-in-itself in such a way as to manipulate it.

Interesting premise but a good portion of the chapters are written in different styles (e.g. think Plato's dialogues, think stream of consciousness, etc). felt so jumbled. and of course there had to be sex, because it's a SF book and there's gotta be shittily-written sex in it, right? good news is that it ever so slightly nudged me in the direction of 'Hmm maybe there is a God' side as opposed to the 'Welp it's all atoms and void and chemical reactions side'

[Anonymous No.14895584]

>>14895581
you sound like a fag

[Anonymous No.14895593]

>>14895584
thanks buddy

[Anonymous No.14895594]

>>14895581
I love Adam Roberts but I've never felt the desire to read that one. Just picked up on the Antarctic setting and "The Thing" too, huh. I loved Salt and New Model Army, though, they're about how democracy is gay. Obligatory sex but at least it's not consensual.

[Anonymous No.14895947]

Jesus, I got 3 days worth of writing done today. I just hope I'm handing the characters okay. Writing their personalities still doesn't feel as organic as it used to, and I'm pretty sure the story's love interest didn't have a single moment in today's writing that wasn't romanticized, or fetishy. Maybe the running gag about her being sexually attracted to tile patterns was a bad idea, As was the one-off joke about her thinking she'll have to drink her own pee to survive

[Anonymous No.14895958]

>>14895947
I think you enjoy blogging about it here more than the actual writing.

[Anonymous No.14895960]

>>14895947
Post some of it

[Anonymous No.14895985]

>>14895958
I don't, I'm just constantly torn between pride that I'm actually writing and anxiety that I'm not good enough and will never be good enough, or that I was good enough but I've since lost it and now every day I lose a little bit more of my gift as my brain decays into a soup of room temperature IQ

[Anonymous No.14896091]

>>14889207
>Why even bother with fantasy if you're not fantasizing about fucking fantasy race women.
Sure, but why muscle midgets?

[Anonymous No.14896245]

>>14894392
Picked it up,thank you
>>14895311
>main lgbt,LGBTQ+
Think Ill pass but thank you

[Anonymous No.14896290]

>>14888196
Other than the obvious Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit, what are some good books about dwarves? I know LotR is not -about- them but you know what I mean.

[Anonymous No.14896356]

"Benny is our hero, and the pendant around his neck has drawn the attention of the kingsmage Vendar. For that pendant means Benny has the lineage of the man who defeated the evil Balthesal centuries ago. And a cult stirs, recruiting more members every day, aiming to resurrect Balthesal using the Witching Stone, whose runes secretly hold the ability to resurrect anyone from the dead. The cult's goal is to finish Balthesal's quest of making all of Treastria subservient to Maarakh the deceiver (from whom all of evil and the imperfections of the world exist). The blacksmith's apprentice Benny finds himself entwined in the very history of Deria, a nation of the continent of Traestria, filled with magic, as well as a good deal of good and evil."

That's all I have so far besides a bit of backstory, characters not mentioned, and a list of races.

[Anonymous No.14896384]

>>14896356
Also there's a pretty tree elf named Ashana who wears a short as shit leather skirt (as is custom with the less prudish tree elves) but she's a serious character with strength and flaws.

[Anonymous No.14896394]

>>14896384
Seriously, I don't want my female characters to be pieces of meat, I may even add a bit of a feminist (although not misandrist) message to their character. I'm just not sure I know how to write female characters in a non-sexual, serious way.

[Anonymous No.14896411]

>Seriously, I don't want my female characters to be pieces of meat

[Anonymous No.14896420]

>>14896394
>I'm just not sure I know how to write female characters in a non-sexual, serious way.
Just write them like people, anon. Women and men might be different, but they're both still people and they've got more in common than they have differences. If you really can't write a female character without overtly sexualising her, maybe you just need to jerk off before you start writing.

[Anonymous No.14896431]

Is Gene Wolfe's Long Sun worth reading after New Sun?

[Anonymous No.14896453]

not gonna lie, I quite enjoyed this

[Anonymous No.14896464]

>>14896411
Wojakposters and frogposters need to be fucking gassed, keep this shit in /v/ faggot.

[Anonymous No.14896471]

>>14889636
this

[Anonymous No.14896476]

Anyone got any good/OK/trash pandemic sci fi?
Just read Andromeda and want some more.

[Anonymous No.14896498]

Why is the far future utopian aesthetic so profoundly unpopular with people? I've noticed readers and audiences seem to almost have an allergy to it. Meanwhile you just throw up a bunch of neon lights on a dark rainy city and somehow that's kino.

[Anonymous No.14896504]

>>14896498
probably because most people live in dirty miserable urban areas and are very cynical about the future, utopianism just isn't very popular these days

[Anonymous No.14896516]

>>14896504
But I see these same people praising retro futurism and shit like that. I just don't get it. It's like they can only enjoy gimmicky shit and secretly hate sci fi.

[Anonymous No.14896518]

>>14893107
Based

[Anonymous No.14896525]

why does he rape?

[Anonymous No.14896539]

>>14896476
Blood Music - Greg Egan

[Anonymous No.14896551]

Seriously considering reading a historical romance novel i found on the internet right now

[Anonymous No.14896554]

>>14896516
Fashions change. It's like saying why don't people like wearing the same clothes people in the 50s did. Some aesthetics get boring and pushed aside in favour of others, then have their time in the sun once more. Fashion is cyclical, so future utopia might come back in the future.

>gimmicky shit
All sci-fi is gimmicky shit and just because your favourite flavour of gimmicky shit isn't the current trend doesn't mean that others are less "valid". I fucking hate that word now, but you know what I mean.

[Anonymous No.14896621]

I primarily read visual novels, but I'm sick of it and want to stop consuming Japanese media. It's hard for me to find anything to replace it with though. Recommend me some books that will help me get out of this shit, please.

Maybe something fantasy? I'm not sure sci-fi would do the trick. There are a number of sci-fi VNs that I liked quite a bit, but they were very character-based, whereas the impression I get from western sci-fi is that it's more about ideas at the expense of characters. I'd be happy to be wrong about that, though.

[Anonymous No.14896897]

>>14896621
Powder Mage by Brian Mclellan, Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton (the novels are very different to the films), the Curse of Chalionby Lois Mcmaster Bujold, The Barrow by Mark Smylie, Codex Alera by Jim Butcher. If it turns out you don't like any of those, then unfortunately you just have terminally bad taste.

[Anonymous No.14896918]

>>14891044
>On an unrelated note, are there any good examples of a powerful protagonist or antagonist who became (or becomes over the course of the story) powerful by breaking the rules of the setting?
Dakota Krout. His completionist series. Kinda.

[Anonymous No.14896936]

>>14896897
Thanks for the recommendations, those look fairly interesting. I remember reading Jurassic Park and The Lost World back in elementary school when the movies came out -- I used to actually like reading normal books, but that was a long time ago lol.

[Anonymous No.14897251]

Books with mom son relationships?
Not the weak sauce stuff either.

[Anonymous No.14897291]

>>14897251
Bakker

[Anonymous No.14897319]

>>14896464

[Anonymous No.14897494]

>>14888249
U mad bro?

[Anonymous No.14897507]

>>14896498
It's too unrealistic. Most sf was utopian until the 80s when we actually got computers and tech that sf used to dream about but the cyberpunks pointed out Utopia was an illusion. I'm tried of gritty shit myself but I'm pessimistic as everyone else that humans can get our shit together and not fuck everything up

[Anonymous No.14897524]

>>14889207
Because there's erotica and porn if I want to fap but I want fantasy to actually tell a story

[Anonymous No.14897533]

>>14897291
I said books. I read bakker.
Kelmo should have gotten to fuck esme, the whore.
They fucked their sister, why not their mother?

[Anonymous No.14897542]

>>14897507
yeah nobody wrote about nuclear holocausts and the end of society in 1963, that looked ridiculous to people that didn't have word processors

[Anonymous No.14897589]

>>14896290
The Dwarf by Pär Lagerkvist.

[Anonymous No.14897764]

>>14897507
>Most sf was utopian until the 80s
imagine being this stupid

[Anonymous No.14897808]

Anyone got that Dune list handy? I finally started reading Dune and I'm not sure what comes up and when I should drop it. His shitty son takes over at some point, right?

[Anonymous No.14898006]

>>14897764
>>14897542
I read Brave New World and 1984 in high school like everyone else did. OP asked about the shift in SF and I'm just saying cyberpunk popularized the movement from exploring spaceships to grim dystopias. Obvs stuff like Enterprise still ran until 2005, I'm not saying it went from all utopia to all dystopia in the 80s.

[Anonymous No.14898021]

>>14898006
Yep, and at the same time Niven and his bros shifted non-downer SF away from bizarre New Age character studies and back to firm scifi engineer heroes. It's not a monolith.

[Anonymous No.14898090]

>>14897808
Check the archives faggot.

[Anonymous No.14898282]

>>14896554
>All sci-fi is gimmicky shit

Futurist shit doesn't fly out the window just because people live in the ghetto. Utopian sci fi is extrapolation mixed with idealism. Retro future and cyberpunk is just a fucking gimmick. Is utopian gimmicky? Sure in the marketing sense. But that doesn't change the fact that we will NEVER have some shit that looks like the jetsons. You are just being obtuse if you reject this.

[Anonymous No.14898302]

>>14897507
It's more realistic than 99% of shit that gets passed as realistic though. Our architecture and technology has been moving in that direction for the past 20-30 years and there doesn't seem to be any end to it. Shit isn't going to look like Blade Runner. It's going to look like Incorporated at the worst or the Abrams Star Trek movies. The themes might be cyberpunk but the world is never going to be full of neon lights an nude holograms. Source: Reality

[Anonymous No.14898919]

>>14898282
Show me what you mean by Utopian futurism.

Retro future, cyberpunk, Jetson's future, whatever, are just aesthetic choices. There's no reason technology needs to look a certain way, it's just guided by fashion. Fashion changes.

>>14898302
>the world is never going to be full of neon lights an nude holograms. Source: Reality
Asia disagrees, bro. If holograms were real, you know the Koreans and Japanese would putting them everywhere.

[Anonymous No.14898973]

>>14898919
>If holograms were real
But they are and they do

[Anonymous No.14898980]

>>14898302
>Shit isn't going to look like Blade Runner.
Blade Runner didn't invent the spooky smoggy neon aesthetic, it copied it from overcrowded Asian cities.

[Anonymous No.14899010]

>>14893529
>hasn't really matched either our self image or our stereotypes since at least WWII
Considering that Tolkien wrote the Hobbit before WW2, that's to be expected.

[Anonymous No.14899204]

I'm starting the Shattered Sea series. Without spoilers, am I going to be cucked like I was with the ending of the First Law books?

[Anonymous No.14899228]

>>14898919
>if holograms were real
They are. Plus Tokyo and Hong Kong are only two cities in all of asia.

[Anonymous No.14899239]

>>14898980
I didn't say blade runner invented shit. What's funny is even Asians don't use the blade runner shit as an approximation of the future.

[Anonymous No.14899253]

>>14898919
>There's no reason technology needs to look a certain way
If we are talking about realism as another anon brought up, then yes there is.

[Anonymous No.14899286]

>>14899239
that's funny, I don't see anyone in this thread who is

[Anonymous No.14899581]

how do you write a "manic pixie dream girl" who's neither the main character nor the fanservice?

I've got her trailing along but so far I haven't known what to do with her so I've just been making a bunch of jokes about weird fetishes and I'm kind of cringing on her

[Anonymous No.14899634]

>>14897589
Synopsis sounds like a different kind of dwarf than what I had in mind but it seems interesting, thanks for the suggestion.

[Anonymous No.14899660]

>>14899581
You can't.

[Anonymous No.14899696]

>>14899660
the problem is she doesn't even really seem to have a motive in the story besides wanting to support her friends. and the MC one because she latches onto him almost instantly for no reason.

[Anonymous No.14899697]

>>14899581
Manic pixie dream girls are inherently fan service

[Anonymous No.14899701]

>>14888196
Test

[Anonymous No.14899712]

>>14899696
It's clear then that she doesn't play a role other than being your literal fetish insert. Either remove her from the story or take it back to /tg/

[Anonymous No.14899731]

>>14899581
give her a talent, give her an experience, give her a foreign language, give her a personality, like, make her a character

[Anonymous No.14899868]

>>14899731
>give her a talent
While her main role is as a navigator and cartographer, her real interest is in geometry and astrophysics. She often tries to use these skills to make trick shots with her sling, but more often than not she only gets three good ricochets before beaning herself in the head with.a rock

>give her an experience
because of her strange tendencies at an early age she was sent away to a special ed facility that treated all students and mentally disabled invalids regardless of their actual disorder or intelligence. She eventually escaped the school, but she was never able to escape the "retard" label no matter how much she fought it

>give her a foreign language
I'll have to get back to you on that

>give her a personality
Knowledge is a big thing for her. She likes knowing things and her ego depends on her being a respository of knowledge for the group. As a result, she's constantly recording info the setting, spitting facts about their location, trying out unethical experiments on her friends, and attempting to show off her mastery of space by performing the aforementioned trick shots in order to look cool (which she fails at). Subconsciously she thinks that if she tries hard enough to be smart and look smart, the people she cares about won't notice or will be willing to overlook the image of a retard she sees in her head. Maybe that's why she clings to the newcomers like the MC. She likes being in a position where she can be the expert

>make her a character
Objective-wise, her goal is to chart an unseen horizon and get the the bottom of a bunch of mysteries about the setting's bizarre properties, but the reason she's invested is because by making herself the planner and navigator, she's arranged herself as the self-styled leader of the group. In a way she's trying to prove herself as much as the rest of them are.

Of course, this raises a question. as the MC grows more knowledgable, makes his own discoveries and their plan falls to pieces would her own self-image fray? Maybe that's a sign that she's not meant to be with the main character? Or maybe, she needs to realize that she doesn't need to prove anything to people who care about her

[Anonymous No.14899965]

>>14899868
congratulations, she is no longer an archetype
the rest is your problem

[Anonymous No.14899981]

>>14899286
If you are going to strawman do it properly and articulate whatever bullshit you think I'm saying.

[Anonymous No.14900158]

>>14899868
>>14899965
this shit is cringe

[Anonymous No.14900200]

>>14900158
cool opinion, now post your dick or fuck off

[Anonymous No.14900232]

>>14900200
>show your dick
What's with this trend in tween leftists?

[Anonymous No.14900336]

>>14899701
Stop ban evading, pol scum.

[Anonymous No.14900355]

>>14900000
Hmm.

[Anonymous No.14900606]

Need an older woman to breed.

[Anonymous No.14900642]

>>14900606
utterly degenerate, delete this filth

[Anonymous No.14900650]

>>14900606
looks like my 3 hrs of no fapping is about to restart

[Anonymous No.14900862]

>>14896621
Recently read through a science fantasy story called Bounty: The Hunters Of Vanaheim. Reads kind of like an anime, so it might be a good way to transition. The only thing is it's fucking long, made Dune feel like a novella.

[Anonymous No.14900874]

>>14900642
Are you a pedo or gay?

[Anonymous No.14900886]

>marital partners
>ter
>group marriage
>tercera
>sjw hair
Fuck even tho I kinda like this series but this shit is making it hard for me.It had red flags all over it in the first one and also written by women, I should've known better..

[Anonymous No.14900896]

>I LOVE MURDERBOT

[Anonymous No.14900918]

Is this just a novelization of a Scion campaign?

[Anonymous No.14900926]

>>14900918
hideous cover

[Anonymous No.14901051]

>>14900918
Tell me. Why does his eyes glow?
Would it hurt if I put them out?

[Anonymous No.14901214]

>>14888196
Green pines covered the hillside, lines of dark brown trunks reaching for the cloudless skies, boughs spread into fine fingers of green needles. Between the pines, there were more pines, a dark, seemingly untouched denseness, except in one place. Here, there was a clearing, and here stood a rocky village composed of stubby, red-orange, rock-walled buildings.

Details blurred by distance, the craggy bit of civilisation reminded Lewis Jones of Essenia’s castle fortresses of old.

“That’s the village,” Jones said.

Sergeant Conway, standing beside Jones on the slope of a gentle hill, slipped his rough and wrinkled finger into the trigger guard of his Dawson rifle.

“They’re friendlies, sergeant.”

Conway frowned. “Who says?”

“The colonel.”

“The colonel said that when we left base, and that was five days ago.”

Jones squinted at the village again. Was it really possible for them to have switched sides so quickly?

Conway ran a hand through his greying head of slicked back hair. “Sir, all I’m saying is that, right now, this is a very… dynamic situation.”

“History has shown that the Kedans are an honourable people.”

Something shifted behind them: Lang was looking at the ground and pulling on the front of his helmet so that it tipped over his face, his tiny grin only just visible from where Jones stood.

“Do you have something to say, private?” Jones demanded.

“No, sir,” Lang said quickly. He slapped himself twice on the cheek, dropped the grin and stood at attention. “No, sir,” he repeated sharply.

“Lang don’t mean anything by it, sir,” Conway said, looking upon the private with a grin of his own before turning back to Jones. The humour left his eyes, but the grin remained. “Look, if the Kedans are as honourable as you say they are, then we’ll be just fine, but if you don’t mind, sir, I’ll still be on the lookout for a curveball. People have a tendency to get a whole lot less honourable when you knock on their doors with a rifle in your hand.”

[Anonymous No.14901355]

>>14901214
Why did you post this shit?

[Anonymous No.14901416]

>>14900886
>Teaming up with a Research Transport vessel named ART (you don’t want to know what the “A” stands for), Murderbot heads to the mining facility where it went rogue.

Oh shit, I better not read your book then in case I find out what A stands for. Wouldn't want that! Don't tell me what I don't want to know. Jesus, how could you have even picked it up after reading that?

[Anonymous No.14901430]

What's the best reading order in Ciaphas Cain novel series?

[Anonymous No.14901592]

>>14900232
They can't come up with their own memes, so they just reverse old ones.

[Anonymous No.14901639]

>>14901416
>I love Murderbot!!!
But seriously I saw cool robot and thought its gonna be good also it had shiton of awards(they mean fuckall) and I just started reading books again so there you go.At least from now on Ill be skipping any books written by western women.

[Anonymous No.14901645]

>>14901051
He’s a big gay.

[Anonymous No.14901704]

>>14901645
Fore Yule

[Anonymous No.14902130]

>tfw book stores are going to suffer during this time, while self published authors on Amazon with narrators are going to thrive
Physical books market, like the plane travel market is going to suffer.

[Anonymous No.14902156]

>>14902130
Amazon is in the middle of a hiring boom to deal with the increased demand of people ordering things to be delivered. So while the stores themselves might suffer (not that they stock perishable goods), books sales will probably skyrocket. It's a good time to be an author, self-published or otherwise.

[Anonymous No.14902419]

This is a good time to write at least.

[Anonymous No.14902592]

>>14902419
there's going to be a lot of corona novels and screenplays in a few months

[Anonymous No.14902697]

about to finish a deepness in the sky by vernor vinge.
i'm enjoying his writing but he leans on dramatic irony really hard (reader knows something characters dont). so i dont think i'll continue to finish Children of the Sky.
what do you guys think i should pick up next? considering malazan, the first drizzt book, or the three-body-problem (everyone raves about this)

[Anonymous No.14903034]

>>14902156
Stores can sell books through amazon anyways so it’s not a loss for them

Anyways I have a question, I’ve been reading a web novel and finally realized the translator is a furry
Should I drop the web novel?

[Anonymous No.14903037]

>>14903034
Yes

[Anonymous No.14903194]

>no one
>not a single soul
>robert jordan: rand al thor is a dragon reborn
>me: you don't say

[Anonymous No.14903204]

>>14903034
Only the translator? Unless you think they're inserting their fetish into the story itself I don't see the problem. Fur faggotry isn't contagious like that.

[Anonymous No.14903350]

>read 14% into Claw of Conciliator 2 years ago
>don't remember anything from it or the previous book
do I just continue or

[Anonymous No.14903358]

>>14903350
That’s always the trouble with not just binging a series

You’ll have forgotten everything and need to reread
Which is ok if it’s a good story

[Anonymous No.14903365]

>>14903358
yeah but I'm pretty sure I didn't understand anything back then either, I was just reading the lines and probably missing 90% of the point.

[Anonymous No.14903381]

>>14903358
I always seem to remember everything I read, even if it was a book decades ago I was forced to in school.
Shame I don't have nearly as good a memory at other shit. Probably because most other shit doesn't interest me in the slightest, but overall I seen to have a really good reading memory.

[Anonymous No.14903521]

>>14903381
i dont remember asking

[Anonymous No.14903575]

Anyone here who has read/is reading the grishaverse?
Currently in the middle of siege and storm. Gotta say, was a bit sceptical and thought romance was gonna be more present cause of the female mc. Was pleasantly surprised to find out her mary sue-ness is in bounds

[Anonymous No.14903585]

>>14900606
>nabokov
kek

[Anonymous No.14903767]

holy shit... tanith lee's night master is fucking brilliant. going to read the rest of the series now.

also, are the sequels to Sabriel any good? for what it's worth i enjoyed sabriel a great deal

[Anonymous No.14903782]

>>14903767
What do you like about it?

[Anonymous No.14903808]

>>14903782
For Night's Master, it was definitely how epic and dangerous and terrible everything felt. It was inspired by One Thousand and One Nights so it was a bunch of short stories tangentially related by all more or less set in motion due to the Prince of Demons' actions. It was wonderfully weird and a strange examination of humanity when faced with power, immortality, and hate.

For Sabriel, I just liked the main character a lot, the usage of bells, and the overall prevailing gothic atmosphere I got when reading it. The words felt gray, or ash-colored, in my mind as I read it, even as Sabriel did cool fencing shit.

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>>14903575
I like Six of Crows, not so keen on the Shadow and Bone trilogy (thought major plot beats were way too obvious).

I've not got that far in it but her new book which isn't set in that universe is pretty good from what I've read of it.

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>>14900886
wow can't believe the scifi books proposes that society may change in the future

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>was gonna read the new sarah j maas book just to shitpost about it
>still not on mobilism/irc a week after release
nvm lol

[Anonymous No.14904314]

GOOD NEWS:
George R.R. Martin has taken on Corona-chan as a writing coach

BAD NEWS:
My left arm feels kind of limp and uncoordinated. I might be getting diabetes but I'm not sure I want to risk getting the bat flu

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>>14903034
Yes. They have no self control and have likely snuck shit into the story to satisfy their fetish. Might not be in your face, but it brings the fidelity of the translation into question.

[Anonymous No.14904741]

>discord renames channels to be explicitly reddit by using /r/ in their names
WE DID IT REDDIT!

[Anonymous No.14904760]

>discordfaggot bringing redditshit to the thread
SHOCKING

[Anonymous No.14904916]

>wind up reading Sorcery! in an xbl chat with one of my buddies making the choices and rolling the dice
>it's a fucking great time
I lost my voice tho.

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>>14904916
That's a rather bad way to do it.

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>>14904927
Oh yeah?

[Anonymous No.14905297]

Is Dan Simmons secretly a hack?

[Anonymous No.14905398]

What is your honest opinion about Lud-in-the-mist, you sons of a fairy?

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Question: if a brightlock's patron falls, does he turn into a fiendlock?

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>>14905297
>muh cantos

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14904137
I respectfully disagree with xetselfs transracegendersexual opinion

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I think reading is going to make a comeback . Corona will continue, fade, then people will relax and it will come back. The future will be a good time to be a writer.

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>>14906069
According to ISPs people are spending their time playing many more games.

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>>14906102
Sure I bought a bunch of games too, and tv/movie streaming must have increased, but reading will get an uptick too.

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>>14888910
>unironically defending nazis

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>>14906131
My reading is down.

I usually read on the way to and from work, while on break, and before bed.
Now I am working at home, I'm just reading before bed.

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>>14906069
People will just stream films and play video games. Maybe if the internet goes down that will change.

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>>14903350
You should restart, honestly. One of the best parts of the series is seeing how Woolf brings things back up later on, you'll miss almost all of that if you can't remember the first book

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>>14906215
>Woolf

Oops, wrong author

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>>14906219
Who's Afraid of virGENEia WOoLF?

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>>14903585
What, you thought he just wrote about lolis?
He wrote about milfs/cougars too.

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>>14906609
I've only read Lolita, and while I enjoyed it, I really struggled to understand all the references he kept banging on about.
There were whole chapters of him listing off American Locations and playwrights, and I just didn't get it.

Are all his books like that, or just Lolita?

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>>14906672
I think you dived deeper into the hidden meanings than me. I just enjoyed the novel, and his excuses for being a pedo. I didn't look deeper.

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>>14905398
my dad loves it

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>>14906200
>asks for discussion
>gets heinie hurt when it gets discussed

[Anonymous No.14907377]

akka is a cuck
dad rite homos

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>>14907377
> Stinky, dumb dunyain scum.

[Anonymous No.14907677]

And why was Soulcatcher so jealous?

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>>14906069
>The future will be a good time to be a writer

This will be true provided that you're not writing novels.

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>>14907677
Because she was envious that the lady got to have everything she wanted (a kingdom, a loving husband) without having to undergo all the suffering that soul catcher went through. Compounded with their natural sibling rivalry.

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>>14893433
>Double Pirate
It's not double pirate. It's pirates versus ninjas. I love that the guy made an entire series around one of the oldest memes of the internet.

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It all

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comes tumbling

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down

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>>14908795
>>14908795
>>14908795

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>>14906200
>unironically using the term nazi in 2020