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>Martin Heidegger
>Carl Schmitt
>Werner Sombat
>Ludwig Klages
>Ezra Pound
>Ernst Junger
>Yukio Mishima
>Francis Parker Yockey
>Stefan George
>Charles Bukowski
>Julius Evola
>Karl Haushofer
>Richard Strauss
>Louis-Ferdinand Céline
>Carl Jung
>Emil Cicoran
>Michel Houellebecq
>Knut Hamsun
>Oswald Spengler
>Leo Strauss
>Michel Foucault

Why are all the greatest thinkers of the last century literal Nazis?

>> No.14881721

shit bait

>> No.14881736

>>14881721
cry more leftcuck

>> No.14881751

>>14881709
It's the natural state of the real intellectual. After WWII liberal global hegemony was established and this class wiped out. Every intellectual that followed grew up in a sea of Libtardist propaganda.

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>>14881751
Excuse me sir do you know which way I go in order to shine my Johnson?

>> No.14881764

>>14881751
The nazis had no intellectuals.

>> No.14881769

>>14881764
N A S A
A
S
A

>> No.14881770

>>14881764
martin heidegger

>> No.14881776

>>14881764
Heidegger literally ended philosophy

>> No.14881782

>>14881776
And what was his function in the party? How did they implement his ideas? They didn't.

>> No.14881783

>>14881709
You forgot Walt Disney.

>> No.14881784

>>14881776
sounds pretty anti-intellectual to me desu

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>>14881709

>> No.14881795

Gay thread

>> No.14881796

>>14881782
giovanni gentile

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>>14881796

>> No.14881809

>>14881782
He was a member of the party retard. And then you've got literal geniuses like Schmitt to who were actively taking part in the government

>>14881784
Ending philosophy is the most intellectual thing possible.

>> No.14881811

>>14881809
>Ending philosophy is the most intellectual thing possible
How so?

>> No.14881822

>>14881811
It's
>tfw too smart for philosophy
but an actual well-defined position

>> No.14881831

>>14881811
He completed philosophy, there is no farther it can be taken after him that is not simply a rehash of someone before him like Neechee or Can't or Playdough. He is the high water mark of thousands of years of human thought.

>> No.14881833

>>14881751
This.

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Also the greatest mystics...

>> No.14881882

>>14881876
>when a glorified aristocrat neet has to much time on his hands

>> No.14881886

>>14881831
>He completed philosophy
What’s the conclusion then

>> No.14881895

>>14881776
Preemptively refuted by Whitehead

>> No.14881897

>>14881886
I told you, heidegger. Read Being and Time

>> No.14881904

>>14881895
Whitehead preemptively refuted himself by simply rephrasing Aristotle and selling it as his own

>> No.14881912

>>14881709
ernst junger and oswald spengler hated the nazoids

>> No.14881919

>>14881709
>Foucault and Bukowski
>Literal nazis

anon... should i...

>> No.14881929

>>14881912
Spengler only hated them because he couldn't figure out how they worked into his theories

>> No.14881931

>>14881904
>rephrasing Aristotle
which he didn't do

>> No.14881937

>>14881919
Bukowski was a well known nazi sympathizer

>> No.14881938

>>14881931
ERRRR wrong try again

>> No.14881954

>>14881912

no they didint, spengler predicted they would fail because they lacked the resources and infraestructure, not because of any personal grievances

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>>14881811
well; Marx on his theses on Feuerbach kinda admited marxism is shit a selfcontradictory... everything is matter, even thought; just, phenomena is what pushes the dialectical movement, just as Hegel said, the negativität, or in kantian words "the pushing from noumena correcting the Reason, in which we understand the phenomena".

Basically, Heidegger said: "there's no material or ideal, just being; and there is authentic being; communion with the Being, and inauthentic... third person intermidiate relationship with the Being thru language; and the dialectic isn't material or ideal, but passional".

>> No.14881961

>>14881844
>The smartest Nazi conspired against Hitler before the war even started and was placed in concentration camp by the Reich itself.
Cool pic anon.

>> No.14881966

>>14881937
DUDE WE'RE ON 1488 ID'S KEK
BTW, i only saw him with an Iron Cross, which could more related to prussianism instead of nazism... tell me where Bukowski is a nazi sympathiser, and even so, he was such of a degenerate.

Foucault also was a fuckin maoist degenerate

>> No.14881985

>>14881957
>authentic being; communion with the Being, and inauthentic
What does that even mean?

>> No.14881994

>>14881985
read 5.2 chapter of being and time, is one of the few instances where Heidegger speaks normal human language and not some cryptic stupid jargon cause he was a total manlet and kind of ugly... he was still a genius.

Read his own words on "Gerede", that shit is simple as fuck and should be the seed to understand that motherfucking book

>> No.14881998

>>14881897
give me the quick rundown

>> No.14882008

>>14881831
There is no end to philosophy. This is pseudry.

>> No.14882009

why did he hide those eggs

>> No.14882017

>>14882008
Yes there is read Heidegger he ended it.

>>14881998
No.

>> No.14882020

>>14881994
What does he mean by authenticity? It just looks like vacuous jargon to cover his shit ideology and hold himself to a privileged position.

>> No.14882029

>>14882017
And yet philosophy is still continuing and interest in Heidegger is waning.

>> No.14882035

>>14882029
I addressed this here >>14881831

>> No.14882040

>>14882035
And yet it has been taken farther

>> No.14882042

>>14882017
why not

>> No.14882043

>>14882040
It has not.

>> No.14882046

>>14881994
Language is being too tho, everything is otherwise it wouldn't be

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>>14882008
there's is; what's happening is since many jews and many niggas and many feminoids started doing sophistry due to political reasons it seems like that.

There's knowledge which is one with the world
and prosthetic jargon which expresses individualism and irrationality.

true knowledge is one with the world you fucking libtard... ask the burnt ghosts of the dead in Hiroshima and Nagasaki that the atomic bombs and the formulas which made them possible are power games of a discursive narrative imposed by the patriarchy.

True knowledge is one with the world, and the world is objective; noumena, what is subjective is human thought, phenomena; but when human becomes one in mind and spirit with nature he achives harmony; kind of like Neo in "there is no spoon" scene.

Philosophy is the knowledge about knowledge itself; and since knowledge is no other thing but human being as they are, language creatures true philosophy is about understanding the true nature between knowledge and being; and Heidegger said almost everything that could be said about that relationship.

Leftist theories are disconnected from the world, and by the nature of humans themselves...

we're going backwards...

there's no room for politics in true philosophy.

>> No.14882050

>>14882042
Because this is a literature board. Go look up the Stanford Encyclopedia page on it if you want.

>> No.14882053

>>14882043
It has. Nobody cares about Heidegger now and everyone is off to new things.

>> No.14882055

>>14882049
>there's is; what's happening is since many jews and many niggas and many feminoids
stopped reading there. you have nothing of value to say and lack self awareness.

>> No.14882063

>>14881709
The 3rd way dont mean literally nazis, but looks the most interesting after gay materialistic commies and market protestants living in 17th century.

>> No.14882065

>>14882020
dude, go read the fucking book by yourself

>> No.14882071

>>14882050
the SEP won’t tell me that Heidegger ended philosophy

>> No.14882072

>>14882055
i speak for myself not for you

>> No.14882074

>>14882053
Of course nobody cares about heidegger, you're only proving my point. If you want to make a name for yourself as a think you dont try to build off of the guy who completed philosophy, you'll get nowhere because theres nowhere to go. They simply rehash the Greeks or German Idealists with a contemporary style and sell it off as new and exciting. You cannot name one person since Heidegger who has advanced philosophy beyond him.

>> No.14882075

>>14882065
So you have nothing to say to that? Guess I'm right about my suspicions then.

>> No.14882080

>>14882072
Then don't post moron

>> No.14882082

>>14882071
Of course not, you get that from actually reading him. Why would an institution that makes money from people trying to be philosophers tell them that philosophy is solved?

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>>14882055
>stopped reading there. you have nothing of value to say and lack self awareness.

>> No.14882088

>>14882082
so why’d you tell me to look up their page on the book

>> No.14882090

>>14882087
yea you are just proving my point.

>> No.14882092

>>14882090
i'm not him, look for the ID

>> No.14882096

>>14882074
no one cares about him because they all saw his limitations and went off to new things. you think that because you are under read.

>> No.14882097

>>14882088
Because you asked where you could get a rundown of it.

>> No.14882100

>>14882097
yeah but I wanted a good rundown

>> No.14882104

>>14882096
No, nobody addresses him because they cant. He is the endpoint. You cannot name one person since Heidegger who has advanced philosophy beyond him.

>> No.14882109

>>14882100
That is a good rundown.

>> No.14882119

>>14882104
yup, no one ever took the torch from him and continued the journey on that direction. but many do this: they go back to Hegel or Kant and continue thru convoluted paths of political meandering and speculative bullshit to "new horizons" like the brainlets they are: aka, Zizek and Nick Land.

Heidegger said in an interview something along these lines: "i just prepared the way for last man, the one who's gonna unify it all; and lead us to the definitive parousia".

it reminds me of the "child of the stars" prophecy in the neonazis circles: a man will come, who will complete the system of german idealism and usher us all into the Eternal Reich.

>> No.14882125

>>14882109
but it won’t tell me that he ended philosophy or what the answer is

>> No.14882129

>>14882104
Whether it be his vacuous jargon to cover up his shit ideology or his limited anthropocentric view that there is nothing outside the correlation of thought and being, people realized he was shit and went off to new and better things.

>> No.14882131

>>14881721
if you know its bait why even answer you utter retard
SAGE

>> No.14882133

>>14882125
Yes

>> No.14882135

>>14882129
dude, kek, saying that Heidegger is irrelevant and shit for the reasons you listed is like saying "let's understand jenga without giving a shit of what every block is made of".

>> No.14882137

>>14882129
No, nobody addresses him because they cant. He is the endpoint. You cannot name one person since Heidegger who has advanced philosophy beyond him

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>>14881764
that is a good sign

>> No.14882148

>>14882133
:(

>> No.14882150

>>14881764
Did you even read the OP?

>> No.14882153

>>14882129
name a single thing that’s outside the correlation of thought and being

>> No.14882156

>>14882135
cope
>>14882137
well i just stated how he has been addressed and tossed in the trash where he belongs. Sure I can but you will keep coping: Adorno, Benjamin, Foucault, Deleuze, Whitehead, literally any philosopher coming after him. Philosophy is still continuing and there is no end to it. Whenever some one says "lmao end of philosophy" that is a red flag of a pseud/freshman undergrad that treats philosophy as vidya.

>> No.14882164

>>14882156
>Deleuze
Lmao you got me good b8

>> No.14882165

The retard who made this threat (OP) has no understanding of Heidegger, and I wouldn't be surprised if he never read an of Heidegger's books. Heidegger was not a nazi or a fascist.

>> No.14882166

>>14882164
keep coping

>> No.14882167

>>14882148
>:^| (this is the face I reserve to show the disdain I have for you)

>> No.14882181

>>14882156
One thing is philosophy, other thing are critical works

axiomatically there's nothing new on Foucault, all of his works are implicitly contained on Marx's works.

Heidegger's system of thought was the last one original

>> No.14882191

>>14882181
no reason to distinguish them from one another

>> No.14882196

>>14882181
and if you want "classic" philosophy then Whitehead was certainly working within that, who was listed there.

>> No.14882198

>>14882181
>Foucault, all of his works are implicitly contained on Marx's works.
also not true

>> No.14882261

>>14882165
Heidegger was literally, actually a nazi.

>> No.14882335

>>14881809
Idiot. Heidegger was kept from working and Schmitt was distrusted simply for hid participation in the republic.
The nazis were philistines who lost a genius because of their moralfagging.

>> No.14882342

>>14881844
Hjamlar Schacht wrote a great book about his vision of economics.

>> No.14882345

>>14881954
Junger literally said the nazis were worse than Jews.
You cunts are just like faggots, can only use ideas by corrupting them.

>> No.14882359

>>14882165
of all the people in the OP that weren't fascists you choose the one guy who was literally a member of the Nazi party lol

>> No.14882550

>>14882359
Heidegger's philosophy is not compatible with national socialism you fucking moron. Heidegger even says that Hitler disappointed him, in that the nazis ended up being completely different then what Heidegger envisioned.

>> No.14882839

>>14881709
you forgot knut hamsun

>> No.14882968

>>14881709
>me

Wow, it's true!

>> No.14882978

>>14882550
That doesnt mea he wasnt literally a nazi you fucking retard. Stop apologizing for these people

>> No.14883187

>>14881709
Foucault? Im gonna need a source dog

>> No.14883258

>>14881709
>Ezra Pound
>Great anything
Kek

>> No.14883278

>>14881709
Forgot Mircea Eliade

>> No.14883415

>>14883258
>kek
cringe it's not 2016 anymore grandpa

>> No.14883417

>>14881876
>>14881882
Man I love Serrano, the guy's just so funny while still having some truth to him.

>> No.14883437

>Bukowski
fucked a dude once
>Mishima
renowned macho homo and gay club lover
>Foucault
literal fag pedophile
>Evola
closet faglord who craved mussolini's cock
>Cèline
he hated women so much he turned himself gay
>Strauss
inserted thinly veiled homosexual messages in his operas
the question you were asking was, why are all the best intellectuals also huge homos?

>> No.14883772

>>14881912
I’ve never understood why Ernst Junger disliked them. Storm of Steel was all about how war is badass and an essential experience to becoming a man. That falls in line pretty well with what I know about nazis.

>> No.14883959

>>14881709
>greatest thinkers / >last century / >literal nazis
>McHouellebecq

>> No.14883966

>>14882142
Academics are different from intellectuals.

>> No.14883970

>>14882150
Did you read their books? Many were not nazis, or even hated them
Obvious bait thread