Refutations of Paganism

[Dr. Boaz No.14872530]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbioECN5S1Q

Literature refuting paganist practices? I feel sad for these people larping as pagans and talking about """self-initiation""" and "seeking more legal power in the mundane world", practices Guenon (with all his faults) refuted retroactively and eternally.

Why are modern people so against simply accepting Christ? What do the /lit/ scholars think about this?

[Anonymous No.14872539]

>>14872530
>Literature refuting paganist practices?
The apostle Paul's epistle to the Romans chapter 1.

[Anonymous No.14872542]

>>14872530
Modern Christians are just as larpy as pagans. Both of them worship dead Gods and could never understand the true religiosity of their ancestors. I guess at least they're not atheists

[Anonymous No.14872554]

I love how the primordial tradition has been refined into the prima materia of
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Guenonfags are an embarrassment.

[Anonymous No.14872570]

>>14872554
>Guenonfags
These people are at most a cheap imitation of Guenon's views. He would laugh at them for even suggesting that a modern pagan in 2020 could write legitimate "rites" for a marriage ceremony.

[Anonymous No.14872594]

>>14872542
>Modern Christians are just as larpy as pagans.
They have legitimate succession though. The "system" itself still has plenty of people who understand it very well on a spiritual level.

[Anonymous No.14872627]

>desperate christian thread n°32659562365

[Anonymous No.14872630]

>>14872627
>desperate but somehow has such a high number of adherents
>meanwhile a larping pagan stream being promoted in this thread has 5 viewers

[Anonymous No.14872634]

>>14872570
What would/did he say?

[Anonymous No.14872635]

>>14872630
>high number of adherents

A sucker is born every miute

[Anonymous No.14872638]

>>14872530
It all stems from the reign of quantity, brother. They place materialist aesthetics and a worship of material ancestry above metaphysical truth.

[Anonymous No.14872641]

>>14872630
>christcucks swarm the internet like trannies
>not larping

[Anonymous No.14872643]

>>14872638
>the oldest traditions are responsible for materialism
Retard

[Anonymous No.14872647]

>>14872634
He would refute modern pagans on the basis of having no legitimate initiation, which he argues is necessary to enable one to even start on the spiritual path. Everything else is mere dabbling in immaterial but still lesser influences, which can easily even be malevolent as we see in so many new-age type cults.

[Anonymous No.14872659]

>>14872643
The greeks literally believed that matter was coeternal with God. They were crypto-atheists and crypto-materialists. Christianity is a direct refutation of materialism, this is why the modernist pagan hates it so much.
>>14872641
A high IQ gathering place like /lit/ would naturally have a lot of us meet here.

[Anonymous No.14872664]

>>14872635
"desperate" does not match with "well established and good-willed, merely trying to bring the confused pagan onto the correct side"

[Anonymous No.14872677]

Materialism is good, there, christianity refuted.

Next thread.

[Anonymous No.14872679]

>>14872647
>initiation
Which means what?

[Anonymous No.14872684]

>>14872643
>the oldest traditions
You mean like the one taught to Adam by the pre-incarnate Logos in the Garden of Eden?

[Anonymous No.14872688]

>>14872679
For Guenon, it is the transfer of "spiritual influence" from a person who received it earlier in a chain of the initiated.

[Anonymous No.14872695]

>>14872677
>is
>good
No such thing.

[Anonymous No.14872721]

>>14872688
As in spirituality can only come from another human, initiated as in a cult or secret society?

[Anonymous No.14872726]

>>14872684
Damn that's a big acorn. Did he died?

[Anonymous No.14872730]

>>14872721
Spirituality only comes from a unique source (I don't say God because I do not believe this perennial God is actually the true God), that's the point of it being elevated above mere cults. This "source" initiated humans at one point and they keep spreading this chain. If you're not a part of a chain then under the Guenonian view it's a mere larp.

[Anonymous No.14872733]

>>14872730
That's what I mean, what's the chain? ANother human initiating you? God is unknowable?

[Anonymous No.14872739]

>>14872733
The chain is a group of individuals who all received initiation previously from another member above them in the chain. It all started with the monistic god initiating a specific people/persons.

[Anonymous No.14872768]

>>14872733
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silsila
This is what Guénon believed in as a prerequisite for spirituality. No European modernist pagan currently alive can claim anything like this lineage for his supposed tradition.

[Anonymous No.14872781]

>>14872539
Based.

[Anonymous No.14872811]

>>14872530
Refuting paganism is like refuting the laws of nature. It can't be done.

[Anonymous No.14872828]

Why don’t you read John 3:2 first, jew.

Then start talking about my beliefs

[Anonymous No.14872829]

>>14872768
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silsila
>pagans don't follow islam
What a retard.

[Anonymous No.14872834]

>>14872781
>letter from some kike
>based

‘No’

[Anonymous No.14872845]

>>14872811
"Paganism" is a catch-all term encompassing a bunch of unrelated beliefs and practices, most of which are only loosely based on the old religions of Europe

[Anonymous No.14872846]

>>14872829
He couldn't link you to a pagan notion of lineage because no such thing exists.
Also, Guenon was a crypto-pagan like any perennialist, so a pagan should trust him even if he was an Islamic variation of pagan.

[Anonymous No.14872859]

>>14872530
>cederberg
yeah no

[Anonymous No.14872860]

>>14872834
>letter from the actual chosen people who did not forsake God
Holy based!

[Anonymous No.14872879]

The only reason you should prefer Christianity over Paganism is to avoid disappointing your grandmother.

[Anonymous No.14872886]

>>14872860
Yes, keep sucking that circumcised cock, goy! I’m sure Schlomo will definitely respect you now.

Anyway, christkikes are pathetic. They’re the type of people who are the first to commit treason, and sell out their loved ones for a place in (((heaven))). Thanks, but no thanks

[Anonymous No.14872891]

>>14872811
>laws of nature
Those are a mere creation of the Logos, brother.

[Anonymous No.14872899]

>>14872846

[Anonymous No.14872900]

>>14872886
>goy
>Schlomo
No such thing exists anymore. You seem to be deluded by semitic propaganda.

[Anonymous No.14872902]

>>14872891
What the fuck are you talking about, you dumb kike? Do you even know who made us aware of the Logos? Spoiler alert: it wasn’t your rabbi god

[Anonymous No.14872906]

>>14872845
Paganism can't be unlearned because it is the very nature of reality seen through and in sociality. It can only be hidden with abstractions and a firm top-down control by the brahmin classes.

But yes, there will be a lot of illegitimate larping until people start realizing that paganism isn't just Christianity but with Zeus. Unfortunately because of historical accidents this phenomena is increased because of the globalized world being wholly in the control of the anglo, especially in new media which is what most people consume today(including pagans). The anglo empiricists must be defeated just as much as the Christian Church.

[Anonymous No.14872912]

>>14872900
Wow, way to expose yourself for being utterly deluded. You’re the type of idiot who probably thinks that smoking Camel won’t give you cancer, because it’s not Marlboro. Absolutely retarded, but then again to be expected from a kike slave

[Anonymous No.14872915]

>>14872902
>Do you even know who made us aware of the Logos?
The Rabbi God-Man was actually the Logos himself. Or are you implying that some fallible Greek without the full truth using a related term somehow "revealed" God to you?

[Anonymous No.14872917]

>>14872539
Paul wasn't an apostle you fucking retard, there were 12 apostles that represent the zodiac and Paul was one of them. Christtards are so fucking cringe they don't even understand their religion they just believe what they have been told to believe by on the wagon street preachers dumber than they are

[Anonymous No.14872919]

>>14872906
>The anglo empiricists must be defeated just as much as the Christian Church.
The only way to truly defeat anglo bugmanism is by joining Christ's Church. The sooner you grasp this, the better.

[Anonymous No.14872920]

>>14872891
The anthropomorphising of Logos is one of the worst crimes Christianity have ever perpetrated against philosophy. Luckily it won't stand much longer.

[Anonymous No.14872921]

>>14872917
*wasn't

[Anonymous No.14872931]

>>14872920
>philosophy
Cringe and refuted. All so-called "philosophy" leads to the degeneracy you currently see in the world that rejected Christianity.

[Anonymous No.14872939]

>>14872920
>NOOOO!!! YOU CANT JUST HAVE GOD BE A PERSON FROM ALL ETERNITY!!!!! I WANT TO PLAY AROUND WITH EPIC ABSTRACTIONS IN MY HEAD!!! BRUH... ITS LIKE... ALL IS ONE BREH!!!! I AM AN IDEA!!!!!! I AM THE MONAD!!!!!

[Anonymous No.14872942]

>>14872891
>the logos of some nerd bullied by the other gods
>autochtonous elements formed of the blood of the gods in war
>being punished for even thinking about women
>having nymphs as wives and mothers
Hmm, really tough choice there...

[Anonymous No.14872949]

>>14872931
And once again, the know nothing christcuck exposes himself. He sees only what the rabbi god wants him to see. He hears only what the rabbi god wants him to hear. He knows only what the rabbi god wants him to know. Literally a mental slave, of a jew

[Anonymous No.14872957]

>>14872919
Christianity is just angloism: the religion.

[Anonymous No.14872959]

>>14872942
>blood of the gods in war
HOLY BASED!!!!
ODIN WILLS IT BROS!!!!
LETS KILL ALL THE FUCKEN DEGENERATES!!!

[Anonymous No.14872968]

>>14872957
Anglo-bugmanism (protestantism) isn't Christianity. The sooner you grasp this, the better.

[Anonymous No.14872972]

>>14872939
>t. christcuck

[Anonymous No.14872981]

>>14872959
>modernity corrupts essence
Great insight.

[Anonymous No.14872990]

>>14872981
>modernity
Are you implying that believing in eternal matter isn't a sign of pure decadence and modernity? The manifestation of the essence of modernity didn't start just after instagram or the protestant reformation, there were signs of materialist degeneracy in the various pagan groups long before that even under your own faulty cyclical notion of time.

[Anonymous No.14872999]

>>14872981
>posts a pagan to try and discredit Christianity

[Anonymous No.14873001]

>>14872959

[Anonymous No.14873008]

>>14872999
see >>14873001
The guy you posted is an apostate even by the standards of the refuted Catholic Church.

[Anonymous No.14873024]

>>14872990
Well eternal matter wouldn't be a sign of modernity because modernity is a single era.
Read Plato.
So a thousand years of Christcuck moralism is immune from the era that followed it and even arose from the very societies it created? Do you know what you're saying?

[Anonymous No.14873027]

>>14872811
Even in paganism gods and spirits are above laws of nature you idiot

[Anonymous No.14873045]

>>14872999
>muh no true scotsman

Once again, more jew tricks. Why don’t you own your embarrassing doctrine for once in your life. Your doctrine tells people to love their enemies, that your jew god is love, etc., etc. If that’s your opinion, then SJW shit will be attracted to it like flies to a turd. Furthermore, the centralized nature of your religion further enforces this doctrine. European polytheism is completely different in this regard. For starters, it has no centralized doctrine. It is a localized, decentralized phenomenon, with a whole range of beliefs and doctrines. This creates a flexibility that is completely lacking from your jew cult. Also, this means that suicidal doctrines like the ones you subscribe to can never dominate, because of the healthy, self organizing nature of polytheism. Of course you have hippy dippy variants of polytheism, but since this isn’t locked in place, the polytheist can always look elsewhere if the doctrine doesn’t satisfy his needs. That is the big difference between the jew monotheist, whose doctrines have been dictated from above and cannot adapt to a hostile, ever changing environment. This is why polytheism is superior to monotheism, and certainly to your flavor of monotheism.

Localism is the future, centralization is the past. Simple as that

[Anonymous No.14873055]

>>14873024
>Well eternal matter wouldn't be a sign of modernity
Making matter co-eternal with God is a clear sign of crypto-materialism and worship of matter. They weren't decadent enough to openly worship it, but one needed only to wait a few millennia before the full force of their teaching bore fruit.
>modernity is a single era
And the larger principle behind its degenerate beliefs started long before instagram. One could argue it was the idol-worshiping Hindus who shipped their crypto-materialist views to Greece, which then fueled every heresy you see today in the Hellenic-influenced world.
>moralism
A refuted anglo-bugman notion.
>immune from the era that followed it
Only the Church itself is immune to modernity. An individual within the Church can make himself immune to modern pernicious influences only by properly practicing its teachings.

[Anonymous No.14873068]

>>14873045
>bro, everything is like... relative... all religions lead to god bro... i just adapt to the needs of the material world... thats a higher priority than follows eternal immutable truths... no i am not a materialist btw!

[Anonymous No.14873081]

>>14873045
>It is a localized, decentralized phenomenon
>Truth is a localized, decentralized phenomenon
Okay, so engaging in Hindu anal-sex rites is morally right if I locally move to a different place?

[Anonymous No.14873091]

>>14873045
>Localism is the future
This! We need to progress forward! Off with the dusty tomes of monotheist DOGMA! We enlightened localized individuals have no need of DOGMA!
>>14873081
You are just not being tolerant enough. We need to respect their needs and their adaptation of the PERENNIAL TRUTH to their particular circumstances.

[Anonymous No.14873095]

>>14873068
Shitty strawman, as is expected from a kike, next

>>14873081
And another shitty strawman. Again, not too strange when dealing with slimy kike worshippers

[Anonymous No.14873101]

>>14873045
>with a whole range of beliefs and doctrines
As in a relative incoherent mess which lays no claim to have the absolute truth? Why would I follow a mutable thing which worships other mutable things?
>>14873095
How is it a strawman if every single one of your retarded polytheist systems is purely local and relative and only meant for its people?

[Anonymous No.14873107]

>>14873091
Holy shit, are shitty strawmen all you kikes have? Wasn’t there something in the Torah about lying being a bad thing? I guess misrepresentation isn’t lying in kikeastan. What a pathetic bunch of grifters you people are

[Anonymous No.14873108]

>>14873107
>raping a goat and birthing a BASED Demi-God is fine bro! Here, join me, the gods did it all the time!

[Anonymous No.14873133]

>>14873055
>reddit format
Didn't read.

[Anonymous No.14873134]

Hegel

[Anonymous No.14873141]

>>14873027
No they're not. Gods in paganism are not above conditionality. No god is above Fate.

Think of ambrosia or the Norse apples.

[Anonymous No.14873144]

>>14872530
Gambeson, some shitty skirt, no shoes. What a shitty larp.

[Anonymous No.14873145]

First half of Augustine's City of God is basically one big dunking on pagans.

[Anonymous No.14873150]

>>14873045
>removed organized paganism from the world, including by the sword
>has numerous warriors and emperors as Saints
>converted the entire pagan West to do God's bidding
>had the largest and the most longstanding empire
>suicidal doctrines
lmao

[Anonymous No.14873161]

>>14872891
Based.
When will the pagans learn?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_GrGEspASI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJRVJwnhVzI

[Anonymous No.14873163]

>>14873101
>As in a relative incoherent mess which lays no claim to have the absolute truth?

No such thing as. This is another centralized pipe dream. Humans cannot possess the Truth, only the gods can. Our ancestors lived perfect happy with this fact for literally millennia. They knew they had to make decisions based on incomplete information. We always have, and we always will. Such is life. Everything in life boils down to taking risks, because the information you have of your world always has been incomplete and always will be incomplete. This means that every action in life must take dedication, and that above, you will carry your risk. No one can take your risk for you. There are no magical rabbis in life to bail you out. That’s simply not how life works. It never has worked like that and never will work like that.

Honestly, if absolute truth is what you’re looking for, absolute certainty to hold onto no matter what happens, you might as well give up on life entirely. Life is risky business, and there is nothing that can take that away from you. That means you’ll make due with what you have, and that your pipedreams of a fixed truth that will allow you to breeze through life without any obstacles is just that, a pipedream.

[Anonymous No.14873171]

>>14873163
Humans cannot possess the Truth, only the gods can.
I see, glad I'm talking to an EPIC PAGAN GOD himself who told me this truth.

[Anonymous No.14873172]

>>14873150
>can be undone by a fat lesbian feminists with university tenure

Such a stronk doctrine

[Anonymous No.14873175]

>>14873145
What's his best argument?

[Anonymous No.14873176]

>>14872917
>Paul wasn't an apostle you fucking retard

1 Corinthians 1
>1 Paul called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
>2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:
>3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Based retard

[Anonymous No.14873188]

>>14873171
Again, you’re a kikefied moron. Go play with a dreidel or something

[Anonymous No.14873206]

>>14873176
There were only 12 apostles you stupid fucking nigger. Find Paul on the picture of the last supper and post it you absolute imbecile

[Anonymous No.14873207]

>>14873045
>>14873161
>>14873163
>>14872920
>>14872906

I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of Heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Only-begotten, begotten of the Father before all ages; Light of Light: true God of true God; begotten, not made; of one essence with the Father, by Whom all things were made;
Who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from the heavens, and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, and became man;
And was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered, and was buried;
And arose again on the third day according to the Scriptures; And ascended into the heavens, and sitteth at the right hand of the Father; And shall come again, with glory, to judge both the living and the dead; Whose kingdom shall have no end.
And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life; Who proceedeth from the Father; Who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; Who spake by the prophets.
In One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. I confess one baptism for the remission of sins. I look for the resurrection of the dead, And the life of the age to come.
Amen.

[Anonymous No.14873210]

>>14872530
>Why are modern people so against simply accepting Christ
>guenon

[Anonymous No.14873211]

>>14873207
>I believe in one God
Stopped reading here

[Anonymous No.14873215]

>>14873206
he was among the hidden elect invisible group of apostoles bro, you just cant see him there.

[Anonymous No.14873217]

>>14873176
The 12 apostles of Jesus were Thomas, Simon the Zealot, Philip, Simon Peter, Matthias, Matthew, Jude, Judas Iscariot, John, James, Son of Alpheus, James, Son of Zebedee, Bartholomew, and Andrew

shoot yourself in the face you moron. This is the mind of the christuck everyone pay attention why you never listen to them talk about anything ever, they are the lowest of the low droolers

[Anonymous No.14873220]

Because accepting christ implies accepting eternal damnation, which is internally paradoxical.
Also prots haven't accepted christ either, if you're not catholic or orthodox you're not Christian.

[Anonymous No.14873221]

>>14873206
What part of "Paul called to be an apostle" don't you understand?

[Anonymous No.14873226]

>>14873207
Holy... based...
Amen.

[Anonymous No.14873227]

>>14873207
>I believe in a jew

There, saved you some text

[Anonymous No.14873228]

>>14873221
You don't even know wtf an apostle is you fucking ass hat stfu

[Anonymous No.14873230]

>>14873217
Paul replaced Judas Iscariot. Read the Bible moron.

[Anonymous No.14873238]

>>14873230
Paul wasn't even a Christian until after Jesus death according to your fairytale you stupid fucking nigger I have read it and unlike you I actually understand it

[Anonymous No.14873240]

>>14873207
>Who proceedeth from the Father;
Based

[Anonymous No.14873243]

>>14873175
Misunderstanding Latin etymology. He tries to argue that Jupiter is actually a homosexual by misunderstanding what the epithet "Farreus" ("cake"), literally "Jupiter of the Cakes", as the most sacred of forms of Roman marriage (a man and woman meeting as equals) was symbolically consummated by the giving of cakes, blessed by Jupiter (the literal cakes Jupiter Farreus is the god of).

Augustine, being a Semite, didn't have a good grasp on Roman Religion.

[Anonymous No.14873264]

>>14873238
Then you'd know judas was first replaced by Matthias, before Paul. If not in addition to Paul being the apostle of the Gentiles, whom were denied a gospels until the jews denied it, whereupon Paul initiated Christianity as it is known now

[Anonymous No.14873265]

>>14872530
>Literature refuting paganist practices?
pic related

[Anonymous No.14873284]

>>14873265
>source: a 21st century jewish homosexual
I think we got ourselves a Christian here boys!

[Anonymous No.14873286]

>>14873265
That's from the book The Construction of Homosexuality, wherein the atheist-Jewish author argues that Christ's sacrifice is actually a metaphor for him being in the receiving end of anal sex (this what the Last Supper was also about).

Are you saying you agree with this?

[Anonymous No.14873287]

>>14873264
It doesnt make him an apostle you fucking imbecile. I know you are a Christian which automatically makes you borderline retarded so I will say it one more time. There were only 12 apostles and they are the zodiac you drooling donkey. None of it was real, it is a story about the fucking zodiac Rome wrote on top of the OT which was plagiarized by the Jews from multiple other cultures.

1. You are an idiot
2. You have no idea wtf you are talking about
3. You should stfu

[Anonymous No.14873303]

>>14873238
>>14873206
>>14872917
Acts 1:15-26 New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
15 In those days Peter stood up among the believers[a] (together the crowd numbered about one hundred twenty persons) and said, 16 “Friends,[b] the scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit through David foretold concerning Judas, who became a guide for those who arrested Jesus— 17 for he was numbered among us and was allotted his share in this ministry.” 18 (Now this man acquired a field with the reward of his wickedness; and falling headlong,[c] he burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out. 19 This became known to all the residents of Jerusalem, so that the field was called in their language Hakeldama, that is, Field of Blood.) 20 “For it is written in the book of Psalms,

‘Let his homestead become desolate,
and let there be no one to live in it’;

and

‘Let another take his position of overseer.’

21 So one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, 22 beginning from the baptism of John until the day when he was taken up from us—one of these must become a witness with us to his resurrection.” 23 So they proposed two, Joseph called Barsabbas, who was also known as Justus, and Matthias. 24 Then they prayed and said, “Lord, you know everyone’s heart. Show us which one of these two you have chosen 25 to take the place[d] in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to go to his own place.” 26 And they cast lots for them, and the lot fell on Matthias; and he was added to the eleven apostles.

[Anonymous No.14873304]

>>14873207
Based.

[Anonymous No.14873310]

>>14873287
I'm not Christian >>14873220
(not protestant)

[Anonymous No.14873322]

>>14873220
>internally paradoxical
Says who?

[Anonymous No.14873327]

>>14873287
Romans 1:1
Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, and set apart for the gospel of God,

Romans 1:10
in my prayers at all times, asking that now at last by God's will I may succeed in coming to you.

2 Corinthians 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, To the church of God in Corinth, together with all the saints throughout Achaia:

2 Corinthians 8:5
And not only did they do as we expected, but they gave themselves first to the Lord and then to us, because it was the will of God.

Ephesians 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints in Ephesus, the faithful in Christ Jesus:

Colossians 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother,

2 Timothy 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, according to the promise of life in Christ Jesus

[Anonymous No.14873331]

[Anonymous No.14873342]

>>14873322
Orthodox/catholic ontology?
One aspect is the fact that God freely and willingly creates every soul, this means he knowingly dooms a soul to eternal gehenna, a soul that wouldn't perform the evil it chooses to do if God hadn't created her. Ergo God can't be pure good.

[Anonymous No.14873365]

>>14872845
/thread

[Anonymous No.14873377]

>>14873327
>HOW PAUL BECAME AN APOSTLE
11 My friends, I want you to know that no one made up the message I preach. 12 It wasn’t given or taught to me by some mere human. My message came directly from Jesus Christ when he appeared to me.

13 You know how I used to live as a Jew. I was cruel to God’s church and even tried to destroy it. 14 I was a much better Jew than anyone else my own age, and I obeyed every law that our ancestors had given us. 15 But even before I was born, God had chosen me. He was kind and had decided 16 to show me his Son, so that I would announce his message to the Gentiles. I didn’t talk this over with anyone. 17 I didn’t say a word, not even to the men in Jerusalem who were apostles before I was. Instead, I went at once to Arabia, and afterwards I returned to Damascus.

[Anonymous No.14873387]

[Anonymous No.14873395]

[Anonymous No.14873407]

>>14873207
>>14873365

[Anonymous No.14873441]

Every board is /pol/ now, and what a shame. The American impulse to pave over the world and leave it all a never-ending parking lot extends to internet as well
Disregard the image, I'm just trying trying to get you tards to read what I said but I know you won't do it otherwise

[Anonymous No.14873460]

>>14873441
>t.

[Anonymous No.14873484]

>>14873460
Ha look he didn't even read what I wrote! Let me put a soi wojack on this one, he'll hate that, but don't tell him im baiting, cause he can't read apparently

[Anonymous No.14873507]

>>14872811
I have to take issue with this and say that these appeals to naturalist interpretations are the problem with neopaganism in general.

[Anonymous No.14873514]

>>14873484

[Anonymous No.14873520]

>>14873514
two for two, gimmie another one! Lemme see if the pagans will bite as well

[Anonymous No.14873534]

>>14873001
Here lets see if it works on pagans as well

Every board is /pol/ now, and what a shame. The American impulse to pave over the world and leave it all a never-ending parking lot extends to internet as well
Disregard the image, I'm just trying trying to get you tards to read what I said but I know you won't do it otherwise"

[Anonymous No.14873614]

Bros, I think I am going to convert to Christianity.

[Anonymous No.14873632]

>>14873614
Based.

[Anonymous No.14873698]

>>14873614
Just go to a doctor and have your testosterone checked instead. There are plenty of medications for this sort of thing nowadays.

[Anonymous No.14873774]

>>14873387
Imagine how easy this would be for Christianity. All of the swarms of blacks and mulattos wearing gold cross chains.
Have some self-awareness for once.

Straw manning an unorganized and abstract "paganism" does not excuse your disastrous slave doctrine. A doctrine which promotes and arms the lowest class, like a union against hierarchy.

All of the Christian arguments In this thread are extremely pilpul. Id treat a Christian fair if he could at least show respect for his ancestors beliefs before the rise of Christianity, which is not as old as you people think.
Setting spirit and ideology against blood and earth is a terribly Jewish thing to do. They should be joined together. But Christianity can't join with our blood, it is far too foreign for the best of us.

[Anonymous No.14873776]

>>14873614
Welcome to the kingdom of the one, true Lord.

[Anonymous No.14873802]

>>14873460
Asatru are disillusioned christians. Odin to them is just a newer Jesus.

[Anonymous No.14873950]

To the epic pagans in this thread, what does your spiritual life look like aside from larping on 4channel?

[Anonymous No.14874009]

>>14872917
>there were 12 apostles that represent the zodiac
what?

[Anonymous No.14874134]

>>14872530
Subscribed

[Anonymous No.14874388]

>>14872530
http://orthochristian.com/79792.html

[Anonymous No.14874409]

>>14873207
Amen.

[Anonymous No.14874500]

>>14872899
That image is great

[Anonymous No.14874504]

>>14873207
You killed everything. It's all burning. It's all gone. There's nothing but the burning white light of everpresent infinitude ripping the souls of creation into nothingness.

[Anonymous No.14874539]

>>14873950
I'm a pagan but I've spoken with Jesus as well as Lilith. I'm ashamed of both of them, honestly.

[Anonymous No.14874553]

>>14874539
take your meds

[Anonymous No.14874576]

>>14874553
I would have been in a monastery if I had been born 500 years ago. The soul has a religious function. I understand the duty of my own soul to express my Will. I understand that if I fail and destroy myself I must resign myself to a monastery indeed and surrender to God, and in doing so annihilate my intellect.

[Anonymous No.14874707]

>>14874553
Interesting how the Christian answers a religious problem with materialism.

[Anonymous No.14874741]

>>14873774
Spirit and earth were joined in the Incarnation, bro.

[Anonymous No.14874759]

>>14872530
Paganism isn't one thing but a collection of learning/thinking/practising/LARPing about prechristian, transitioning christian, and postchristian folk customs of one's ancestors. Actually in a lot of cases even broader than that, extrapolating some universal truths from ethnic customs somehow. I've seen a few so-called pagans that just use the name to mean anti-christian (these types are mostly of the liberal-progressivist orthodoxy and so thoroughly secular christian themselves). You can't really 'refute' it whatever that means as it's about reinvigourating religiosity and spirituality, as well as interest in and respect for the past. Many are not hostile to Christians, especially their forefathers, because obviously their Christianity is greatly syncretic and in any case includes similar themes in the context of the presentday (protestants do not apply).

[Nemo !!GgBWHLRiayD No.14874983]

Constant critical lack, or deficiency, of the spiritual prerequisite, necessarily leads the motivated volition of the superabundant entity along the path of villainy, by way of satanism/demonism/paganism, toward its destination in Hell.

[Anonymous No.14875007]

>>14874983
"No"

[Anonymous No.14875015]

Paganism is ruined by racialist autism

[Anonymous No.14875024]

>>14873520
so by that logic we don't need larpaganism

[Anonymous No.14875032]

Joke
Being a larper with D&D type mythology that was invented by Christians in Iceland 1000 years after the last pagans died out

Woke
Following the last unbroken chain of tradition given to us by the Indo Aryans.

[Anonymous No.14875040]

>>14875015
No you just want a universal doctrine.

[Anonymous No.14875041]

>>14872530
>Why are modern people so against simply accepting Christ?
Because the church that hogs up the most members-- the roman catholic church-- is a profiteering sham used to fund a theocratic state of pedophiles called the Vatican City. It also seems their leaders tapped out from refuting ape-ancestor evolution, and that they're welcoming Islam and mass immigration into Europe. It's all quite embarrassing, really.

[Anonymous No.14875060]

>>14872530
Which paganism? Doesn't "pagan" just refer to literally every religious belief aside from Christianity?

[Anonymous No.14875066]

>>14872695
Based
fuk u demiurge

[Anonymous No.14875085]

>>14875060
Yeah, Christians are retarded. Everything in Christianity could already be seen in the Greek myths, but with subtlety and without the moralfagging and mistakes.
Then there are myths of other cultures that are certainly not of the same quality or depth. Attacking them would say nothing about the Greeks or the other great myths.

[Anonymous No.14875092]

>>14873206
There are more apostles than just THE "Twelve Apostles", dude...

[Anonymous No.14875101]

>>14873220
>catholic or orthodox
>getting churchcucked
>following a kingdom of man in place of the kingdom of god
Unironically the most heretical and embarassing thing to come out of Christ's teachings, ISHYGDDT.

[Anonymous No.14875104]

>>14875060
Nowadays 'paganism' just means some white man's european or slavic religion that involves glorifying outdoor/wilderness/"nature", primitivism and reviving pre-christian culture of whatever country you're in. As a caveat, there is shintoism which is paganism but not european.

[Anonymous No.14875119]

>>14873220
You don't even read the bible you insane catholic. Your shriveled balls are in a muslim vice it seems.

[Anonymous No.14875192]

>>14872530
none of you know enough about both european pagan traditions and christianity to discuss this, evidenced by this thread.

[Anonymous No.14875269]

>>14873220
>if you're not catholic or orthodox you're not Christian.
The Roman Catholic Church disagrees

[Anonymous No.14875289]

>>14872530
Aquinas first way. It is irrefutable and it requires that there be only one God.

[Anonymous No.14875484]

Everything of worth in Christianity is derived directly from Hellenic paganism. Every time you use a Greek philosophical term like 'logos' you're cucking yourself. Gnostics desperately tried to make Christianity a tad more consistent, but ultimately it's a mind virus with no cure. The trinity is a Hellenistic pagan concept with heavy parallels in Plotinus' metaphysical hierarchy. The only real separation between, let's say, Catholics and Orthodox Christians and Platonic Pagans like Julian is Christcucks can't let go of cancerous Judaic Abrahamism and the Old Testament. Drop Yeshua bar Yosef and pick up Apollonius of Tyana. Either that or drop the paganism and embrace full, true Christianity: protestantism, which is basically just LARPing as Old Testament Jews.

[Anonymous No.14875534]

>>14875192
You should enlighten us :)

[Anonymous No.14875914]

If you participate in these "debates" you should heed the advice of the ancients: 'ora, lege lege lege, relege, labora et invenies.'

[Anonymous No.14875986]

>>14875914
>ora, lege lege lege, relege, labora et invenies
I don't speak Italian and they did not have a pagan/heathenfolk culture so they are not a people to be admired.

[Anonymous No.14876315]

>anti-christian garbage

[Anonymous No.14876765]

>>14872542
>Christian God is dead
>I shall now worship my living ancestors

[Anonymous No.14876869]

>>14876765
>romans

[Anonymous No.14876976]

>>14874009
Not that anon, but why do you think Christ is known as the sacrificial lamb and that his symbol is the fish? He was born when the Ram was just before the rising Sun (at dawn) and brought the ages of Pisces.

[Anonymous No.14877477]

>>14873286
thats not in Greenbergs book you bigot

[Anonymous No.14877531]

>>14872906
>the iron logic of nature

Which is...?

[Anonymous No.14877542]

>>14872906
lol @ this pseud

[Anonymous No.14877588]

>>14872906
>But yes, there will be a lot of illegitimate larping until people start realizing that paganism isn't just Christianity but with Zeus.
what is it then

[Anonymous No.14877671]

>>14872906
>when man attempts tp rebel against the iron logic of nature
He mines the iron and builds a car, goes to the hospital and gets treatment for whatever sickness random-ass nature threw on him.