Better understanding America

[Anonymous No.14835751]

Why are American's stupid enough to vote this man over someone like Bernie who actively has fought for social and economic justice his whole life?

[Anonymous No.14835766]

>>14835751
Americans? Anon...do you mean blacks and women?

[Anonymous No.14835767]

I think we should start calling black people Biden-Americans

[Anonymous No.14835769]

>>14835751
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.14835778]

>>14835751
I'm American and I really don't understand it myself. Everyone I know either supports Trump or Bernie. Who are all these Biden supporters? I haven't met a single one.

[Anonymous No.14835784]

Biden was Obama's vice president, that's it

[Anonymous No.14835799]

>>14835751
Bernie is retarded. Only zoomers and the mentally deficient would think he's anything but another slimy politician. In fact he's extra stubborn for sticking to his idiotic position for so long.

[Anonymous No.14835827]

>>14835778
>Who are all these Biden supporters? I haven't met a single one.

His ground game was shit compared to Bernies. White feminists who voted for Warren and Black Boomers fucked Bernie. Oh and zoomers who didn't want go vote

[Anonymous No.14835844]

>>14835799
The more you learn about the lengthy ongoing war against the oligarchs in America the more Bernie seems like the only real choice, even if you disagree with him on virtually everything.

[Anonymous No.14835860]

>>14835799
Ideologue you are

[Anonymous No.14835861]

>>14835751
Old (black) people in red states (former slave states) are, absurdly, determining who the Dem nominee should be. In any rational system, swing (purple) states like Ohio and Michigan would go first. The establishment wants what it wants, and it doesn't want Bernie.

[Anonymous No.14835873]

unironically, corporations>socialism. one of them has proven its contributes to human welfare

[Anonymous No.14835883]

>>14835873
^proud Truvada user

[Anonymous No.14835891]

>>14835873
Bootlicker

[Anonymous No.14835896]

>>14835873
Bernie is a socdem btw, he doesn't want (and can't) abolish private ownership, capitalist employee relationship

[Anonymous No.14835958]

>>14835873
Good thing corporations would still exist under Bernie. The only difference is that the ridiculous sums of money the corporations make wouldn't be hoarded as much so we'd all actually reap the rewards of those corporations' great contributions.

[Anonymous No.14835980]

>>14835958
Which Henry Ford would agree with. American cucks BTFO by one of the most signicant figures in American economic life. FUCK NAFTA

[Anonymous No.14835990]

>>14835958
>corporations need to pay a lot of tax
>shareholders get less money
>corporation need to find a way to pay shareholders otherwise they pull out
>start trimming the fat by firing useless employees

[Anonymous No.14835992]

>>14835958
>corporations would still exist under Bernie

lol people vastly overestimate the power of presidents, corporations will exist regardless of his views on the matter

if he got in, the tax the billionaires thing would be nipped in the bud real quick, so like everyone else he'd resort to culture war distractions, the more poz he pushes, the more the left will be happy, because it makes the right unhappy, not because it does them any good

[Anonymous No.14836002]

>>14835992
>so like everyone else he'd resort to culture war distractions
No. Read more.

[Anonymous No.14836005]

>>14835990
Based. Workers should be the shareholders

[Anonymous No.14836007]

>>14836002
Yes. Dilate.

[Anonymous No.14836009]

>>14835992
Congress and the Supreme Court would make things very difficult, the media too. I just hope it goes to a brokered convention and the DNC party comes to an end when they cheat it for Biden which they already have

[Anonymous No.14836014]

>>14836002
>No. Read more.
How much time do you need to spend on twitter to think responding like this doesnt make you look like a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.14836023]

>>14836007
>>14836014
>How much time do you need to spend on twitter to think responding like this doesnt make you look like a fucking retard
Wew

[Anonymous No.14836044]

>>14835799
>politician changes stance
>s-snake! populist! turncoat!
>politician does not change stance
>stubborn idiot!

[Anonymous No.14836045]

>>14835751
You sound young and naive, so I'll explain it. The national Democratic party is owned by the exact same financial interests as the Republican party. To them, Sanders is a bigger threat than Trump. It does not matter that Sanders is the only candidate who consistently beats Trump in the polls. Biden will most likely get the nomination because when he loses to Trump, everybody will still keep getting paid. If Sanders were to become president the billionaire class would be brought to heel, we'd stop spending money on a lot of "projects" like Israel and the weapons industry... a whole lot of the slimy fucks in Washington would stop getting paid. They crippled Sanders' 2016 campaign and they've been desperately trying to do it again this time around. Notice how every other candidate mysteriously dropped out and declared support for Biden the day before "super Tuesday"/the largest round of elections?

Sorry, kiddo. You have no idea how bad things really are.

[Anonymous No.14836049]

>>14836009
This. I want to see the Democratic Party ripped to shreds and destroyed. If they go for Biden I'll be happy to vote for Trump.

[Anonymous No.14836054]

>>14835891
>it's ok to be oppressed if it's by people who call themselves a socialist party who are fighting for you
Honestly what is it like being this dumb

[Anonymous No.14836060]

>>14836045
Oh I'm fully aware of everything you said and more. The thing is with the populist rabble rousing of Trump, Bernies insurgenc in 2016, the lack of candidates with anything remotely interesting I thought Bern had a good chance, I thought the American people would maybe snap of out it and fight back, but no I was foolish, deep down I knew it was a long shot, I predicted 2016 would happen again deep down and it did. When Biden won South Carolina I knew Buttplug and Klob would endorse Biden, Obama (as reported on the NYT) called up Pete letting him know to get behind Joe and what a surprise! Electoral politics are fake duh. But it's entertaining

[Anonymous No.14836068]

>>14836054
>putting corporations in check
>taxing the rich
>health care subsidized by govt

Fuck off retard. Bernie is a social Democrat, not even a Socialist, not even close

[Anonymous No.14836070]

>>14836060
Attaboy. The lads and I call it the "who's in bed with which wallet" game, it's fun to try and figure out who owns which politician

[Anonymous No.14836076]

>>14836068
just different levels of gibs

[Anonymous No.14836083]

>>14836076
yeah okay CIA shill we know you want to keep all that tax money for your secret torture projects but maybe you could consider how embarrassing it is that rest of the world is watching us die because we can't afford $1,000 insulin that costs about a nickel to produce. it's cringe

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » mxvabIoSIE No.14836085]

>>14835873
this is peak lib brain. yeah guys lets all come together and thank boeing and lockheed martin and halliburton and fucking exxon and so on for """"contributing"""" to """""human welfare"""""" lol
i would destroy you with my bare hands you fucking cretinous animal

[Anonymous No.14836086]

>>14836076
If you don't think the ultra wealthy should pay significantly more in taxes and be accounted for due to the decentralized style of ruling, banana Republic unaccountablity already present in America then don't complain about anything ever

[Anonymous No.14836089]

>>14836076
$2000 for an ambulance, suicides skyrocketing, wealthy inequality highest it's been, infrastructure dying, tax money is stupid projects and war. Fuck off neolib

[Anonymous No.14836094]

>>14836085
Whether you're a "Republican", "Libertarian" a reminder they're all different forms of liberalism. I hate liberals man

[Anonymous No.14836097]

>>14836083
>>14836086
>>14836089
sick people need to die for eugenic purposes. once we take everyone off welfare and kill them after they revolt there will be more money for roads

[Anonymous No.14836101]

>>14836097
it's a lot fucking cheaper to abort them before they become a problem, genius

[Anonymous No.14836105]

>>14836097
improved education and healthcare access is the only proven method of reducing births.

[Anonymous No.14836119]

>>14835766
>>14835767
Boomers* Young blacks seem down with Bernie.

As for boomer blacks voting who a guy who segregated them, put them into prison, sent them to die in wars or killed them with healthcare costs ... I don't know, facebook memes with Obama?

[Anonymous No.14836127]

>>14836105

Wrong. China did it just fine.

[Anonymous No.14836137]

>>14836119
old people literally only believe stuff if it's on TV. They heard of Photoshop in a Yahoo article and it destroyed their faith in the internet.
>>14836127
not really considering they created a gender gap

[Anonymous No.14836139]

>>14836127
so you want to set breeding protocols like a one-child policy? fine by me. I think we should breed for intelligence, which means you're going to have to get castrated for the greater good of society

[Anonymous No.14836140]

>>14836044
We don't need a retard defending Castro for no reason other than being stubborn. It'd be good if he had a moral system he stayed with but instead it's just ideology. Nothing more than a kook politician. Reminder he wormed out to Hillary in 2016.

[Anonymous No.14836145]

>>14836140
The crippling embargo on Cuba is unfair cunt

[Anonymous No.14836147]

>>14836140
Wasn't it asked of him? What the fuck was he supposed to do, lie and say Castro was literally worse than nazis to make red scare boomers feel good?

There is nothing controversial about praising the commie literacy and health care progress when he went on to explain that dictators and authoritarians still can't be excused right away.

[Anonymous No.14836149]

>>14836140
Cuba has a medical tourism industry bro

[Anonymous No.14836150]

>>14836140
>Reminder he wormed out to Hillary in 2016.
She was obviously the lesser evil. Him winning was impossible at the time he endorsed here, so what's wrong saying the equivalent of "better to get shoot in your foot than your head?"

[Anonymous No.14836151]

>>14836145
have you noticed people always flee commie countries

[Anonymous No.14836172]

>>14836151
Anon, those aren’t real communist countries. They’re countries to enact socialism, who follow the tenets of the manifesto, who achieve the social parity promised by the greatest socialist thinkers, but that’s not “real” communism. Bernie says he wants to be like Denmark and Norway, so I guess Bernie thinks real socialism looks a lot like capitalism.

[Anonymous No.14836173]

>>14836151
India or Mexico are capitalist hellholes and much larger percentage of people flee from these than from Cuba and China. Hell, Serbia has twice the rate of Cuba.

[Anonymous No.14836177]

>>14836172
Bernie is basically a social democrat with some typical right wing takes when it comes to guns. He's less of a socialist than Blair or Merkel.

[Anonymous No.14836180]

>>14836151
To be fair Cuba has had an embargo against it for the last half a century.

>>14836172
Exactly, he's a social democrat

[Anonymous No.14836183]

>>14836147
Yeah but he continued to double down on the statement. How is the Cuban literacy program even relevant? The program was to increase basic literacy to the ~30% of the population that was illiterate. The US is 99% literate. The problems in the US education system are entirely different to the ones in Cuba. Maybe if he actually discussed problems in the education system or how following Cuba would help there'd even be something to discuss.
>>14836150
Exactly, he's just a wormy politician with nothing to stand for. He fell behind the party like every other politician. Hillary is horrendous and the fact he went to endorse her shows he's no different or special.

[Anonymous No.14836200]

>>14835751
Democrats are retarded LOL go cry in a corner

[Anonymous No.14836217]

>>14836177
>right wing takes when it comes to guns.
What is a 'right wing take' about guns? Didn't Marx support the workers being armed

[Anonymous No.14836218]

>>14836183
>Hillary is horrendous and the fact he went to endorse her shows he's no different or special.
So what was he supposed to do in the situation? Him winning wasn't in the cards anymore. Greens winning never was in the cards. Killary would've kept the status quo and could've introduce some positive thing here and there. Donald made things even worse while dismantling progress and threatened to do even worse but just couldn't pass the shit. In the scenario she was a horrible but still a better choice.

Will be interesting what he does now though, Trump did the worst already, so Biden wouldn't be much of a difference. Now he could indeed give a finger to the system and run with greens … BUT that choice would probably alienate some moderates with potential to become progressive and make things for his allies in the house harder. Then again, he and his supporters are going to get blamed for Biden losing either way.

[Anonymous No.14836225]

>>14836217
Back in a time when the idea made sense. Similarly to how the second was actually progressive back in the day. Nowadays it's bullshit controlled by the gun lobby and a typical "muh freedumbs" covering "buy more guns".

[Anonymous No.14836229]

>slavery
>kkk
>jim crow
>japanese americans in concentration camps
Yep, all Democrats.

[Anonymous No.14836230]

>>14836225
Back in the 19th century the citizens had very similar weapons to the state. If we wanted to approximate the situation at the time when Marx was writing you would have to advocate the workers owning tanks and bombers.

Why on earth does it make sense for leftists to disarm the people they are trying to empower?

[Anonymous No.14836242]

>>14835751
>economic justice
Economic justice means people who produce more wealth end up wealthier.

[Anonymous No.14836252]

>>14836230
>19th century tanks
You wut?

The first attempts were made like half a century after Marx died and were basically death-traps. Aerial warfare was a joke with balloons. And the guns generally had a crappy range and reliability. Besides, do militarism, more people actually had the training to use the stuff effectively. Now a zoomer can wreck a village with a drone while watching pornhub in another tab.

[Anonymous No.14836261]

>>14835751
Who will Bernie stuff his government and administration with?

[Anonymous No.14836263]

>>14836252
War in the 19th was largely fought with guns available to both citizens and the state. To approximate that today would mean citizens having access to the sorts of weapons the state has access to today.

and Im still not seeing your point. Why do you trust the state more than the people to use this technology?

[Anonymous No.14836264]

>>14836218
He doesn't have to endorse anyone. He doesn't have to make a big speech where he sings her praise and tries to throw his supporters, who believe in his ideas and all the things he says, behind this entirely different rat. I really can't remember what Hillary was vowing to do back then but I don't remember anything good. She's a scummy hawk and a liar. He did what most politicians would do, follow the party. And that's why he's nothing special.

It seems like the Democrats are poised to fuck him over again and go for Biden. I don't think he's gonna fight the party, he's probably planning for a few more terms in the Senate.

[Anonymous No.14836271]

>>14836218
>dismantling progress
Progress where?

[Anonymous No.14836283]

>>14836263
Ah shit. Now I get what you meant.

>you would have to advocate the workers owning tanks and bombers.
Well, and that would be stupid on too many levels to mention. Take shit like actually organising it, so Joe and Berry actually fight as part of an army and aren't just two drunks rolling in their tanks.

And anything less wouldn't be effective while create downsides. Hence ... fuck guns. Though as long there are decent background checks, mandatory training and the likes, nothing speaks against people having them, but it's silly to pretend it'd be more than a hobby.

>Why do you trust the state more than the people to use this technology?
Checks and balances. And muh monopoly on violence. Not great and carries risks but seems to work just fine in the first world. Violent oppressions are a crude method of the past. Modern methods are more effective and cause less resistance.

[Anonymous No.14836294]

>>14836252
don't expect 'historical materialists' to know the first thing about history

[Anonymous No.14836295]

>>14836252
>>14836294
Even I understood what he meant and I'm 85 IQ.

[Anonymous No.14836298]

>>14836283
>Take shit like actually organising it, so Joe and Berry actually fight as part of an army and aren't just two drunks rolling in their tanks.
This is precisely what the state loses their shit about if you even begin to try it. Look at W*co.

I just for the life of me cannot understand why people who claim that the police and the military are fascist instruments of capital want them to be the only ones who can wield weapons while the workers are totally disarmed.

>fuck guns
Sure but they're here. How is any workers movement ever supposed to function if they can't defend themselves?

[Anonymous No.14836302]

>>14836264
>I really can't remember what Hillary was vowing to do back then
Not super sure either but it was mostly "4 more years of Obama". So basically what we got now minus insane tax-cuts, open racism, divisions, the whole mess in Israel. Also no cuckservative judges and at least small steps by staying in the Paris deal. Hard to predict how she'd deal with Iran but given her masters, would probably break the Obama deal and provoke them too.

Hardly ideal but again, obviously the better choice. Besides during the time Donny threatened to kill healthcare, was Bernie supposed to watch while millions get fucked even harder The only better alternative at that point would've been telling his followers to storm the WH and bring out the guillotines.

[Anonymous No.14836308]

Shut the FUCK up. Keep crying because he is going to keep losing. If you don't know why Bernie is losing, then YOU are the idiot. He isn't popular with the old crowd, but you confuse support for the loudest people in the room. My generation does not vote. They either don't know where to vote, haven't registered, or forgot. I will vote Trump. Suck shit.

[Anonymous No.14836328]

>>14836298
>the police and the military are fascist instruments of capital
Simplifications like that usually come from kids wearing Chè shirts. Since police and military part of the state there are clearly more effective methods one could deal with the mess than organising and leading a war.

Overthrowing the system would just take a few general strikes and people simply going and voting for their interest instead of sitting out. Informed and active citizens are a much better weapon and easier to achieve too. In the muh revolution scenario you'd still need millions informed citizens but also millions prepared to train, equip themselves and risk their lives. Shit's not going to happen in the first world anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.14836332]

>>14836295
The idea just sounded too outlandish, so I thought either I missed something or there was a typo. And then I recalled where we are.

[Anonymous No.14836342]

>>14835751
Reported commie faggot

[Anonymous No.14836368]

>>14836328
If strikes and voting are the way to go why did Marx specifically say the workers should never let themselves be disarmed, at a time when a group of men with rifles was basically the same thing as an army?

[Anonymous No.14836382]

>>14836368
Different times with different norms. In a much more repressive society with the tech of his time, a few thousand armed and organised people could've managed a coup. While methods like civil disobedience or strikes were less effective. The general population would accept state violence against these with minimal downsides to the rulers. If Trump starts shooting at protestors in-front of the WH now, even half of the Republicans would probably rebel against him.

[Anonymous No.14836393]

>>14836382
>even half of the Republicans would probably rebel against him.
In which case it would be a good thing if they had guns

[Anonymous No.14836425]

>>14836218
>Donald made things even worse while dismantling progress
Elaborate on how Trump made things worse. With sources, if possible.

[The human species is a virus o(...) No.14836431]

>>14836151
>have you noticed people always flee commie countries

Let's talk about all those capitalist countries in Africa and the global south

[Anonymous No.14836446]

People can have interests other than what gives them the most immediate material benefit. Just because your a cosmopolitan incapable of conceiving of anything beyond his own body doesn’t mean everyone else is.

[Anonymous No.14836450]

>>14836045
>still believing in polls after their embarassing predictions in the 2016 elections
Bernie would've lost in 2016 the same way he would lose in 2020. You're really overestimating the willingness of people, especially people over 30+, to vote for a self-declared socialist over Trump who has been getting great numbers on the economy (which is what most people care about).

[Anonymous No.14836453]

>>14836431
You mean the ones where people flee towards more capitalistic countries?

[Anonymous No.14836456]

>>14836431
You can only have a "capitalist" country if individual rights are protected. Don't know any African country where this occurs tbqh

[Anonymous No.14836467]

Bernie is a career politician who has achieved nothing in his life. He has done nothing for anyone. He is the biggest grifter there is. I don't get why people would ever vote for him. Is it really just for some free shit?

[Anonymous No.14836474]

>>14836467
Yes, his supporters aren’t empathetic saints. They’re egoists making the same appeals to self interest that Hobbes made centuries ago but without the cynicism that made Hobbes salvageable.

[Anonymous No.14836477]

>>14835778
>Who are all these Biden
There was a republican on CNN that voted for Biden in South Carolina, and I've no idea really how that works I thought you had to be registered as a Democrat to vote in primaries.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » mxvabIoSIE No.14836478]

>>14836218
honestly hindsight is 20/20 but bernie's biggest mistake is being too much of a cuck. he should have dabbed on hillary and called her a war criminal to her face, but he feared getting trump elected so he held back. then trump gets elected anyway because hillary's campaign was a fucking disaster and he gets blamed for it nonetheless.

now he's trying to be "civil" with backstabbing fucking snakes like warren instead of just calling her what she is. he hasn't adequately shat on the DNC establishment for being useless rent seeking fascist aides because he has been trying to be """""""""'civil""""""""" and resistance wine aunts get all uppity because he sometimes raises his voice and it reminds them of their stepfather when he came home drunk from the coal mines. there's no winning with these people, there's no good optics to be had. he's too passive, too lenient, too willing to acquiesce, and he gets blamed for being the exact opposite by people who think social etiquette on twitter is more important than people going bankrupt from healthcare costs. they're fucking animals and forceful submission is the only way they'll learn.

[Anonymous No.14836481]

>campaigns with other people's money
>writes book to sell to fanbois
>makes millions
>concedes to hilldawg
>repeats 4 years later
Yep, sounds like a fraudster.

[Anonymous No.14836485]

>>14836094
what was going on between 1973-83?

[Anonymous No.14836486]

>>14836446
there is absolutely nothing good about a biden presidency unless you're a tenured DC rent seeker, in which case the only positive is quite literally an immediate material benefit.

[Anonymous No.14836489]

>>14836485
Detente

[Anonymous No.14836496]

>>14836486
Not having someone who refers to himself as a socialist is good in itself. While I do ultimately support the expansion of the welfare state, I do so in the anti-socialist sense. I’d prefer human extinction via climate change to socialism being a possible form of human organist. Sanders referring o himself as one is alone too transformative in the wrong direction for me too sympathize.

[Anonymous No.14836497]

>>14836145
You mean the Cuban dictatorship's embargo on Cuba's economy, right?

[Anonymous No.14836503]

>>14836283
>Modern methods are more effective and cause less resistance.

thats literally a bad thing

[Anonymous No.14836509]

>>14836496
>socialism bad
>welfare good
How to be dumb while sounding smart, stay in /lit/ 4ever maggot.

[Anonymous No.14836523]

>>14836509
The expansion of the state is good. The expansion of individual human autonomy does agency is bad.

[Anonymous No.14836539]

>>14836523
Source?

[Anonymous No.14836542]

>>14836425
>with sources, if possible

[Anonymous No.14836573]

>>14836478
I mean yeah but playing their game is the only way for him to have any chance to win and deliver the change. In a normal country with multiple parties he could afford to be more direct and aggressive while calling out the libs. In Burgerland he has to appear somewhat electable for them before he can even start appealing to the normal voter.

The more Trumpian approach needs a party base who already agrees with your stances; winning neocons with neocon plans while giving them dogwhistles and calling out your competition in a no PC way works great. Selling social democracy to neolibs who unironically care about bullshit like "civility" is a much harder game and barely possible even in best case scenario. The fact that he is even considered a danger by the establishment instead of being some fringe candidate like Tulsi is amazing.

>>14836503
It's just how it is. The ruling class aren't idiots and realized it's more effective to convince the oppressed they aren't oppressed instead of beating them down until even the centrists start to get wrong ideas. Hence it'd also be a crappy strategy to fight back with violence; most would turn against you. Hell, motherfuckers complain about protests when they can't get to their wagecuck job in time because of them.

[Anonymous No.14836581]

You niggers keep falling for the socialism crap, man. AHMAGAHD y'all should be given a one way ticket somewhere socialist

[Anonymous No.14836586]

>>14836573
>Hell, motherfuckers complain about protests when they can't get to their wagecuck job in time because of them.
Yes, people dislike invasive species that cause them harm. Does activist boot taste much different from any other?

[Anonymous No.14836593]

>>14835799
>he's extra stubborn for sticking to his idiotic position for so long.
He used to be for immigration restrictions, now he promotes illegal immigration, because it's the more PC thing to do.

[Anonymous No.14836598]

>>14836593

[Anonymous No.14836599]

>>14836523
>The expansion of individual human autonomy does agency is bad.

[Anonymous No.14836615]

>>14836598
When was that exactly?
As I said this used to be his stance, but lately especially when talking to his fanbase he sounds different
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgkCNI1yDNM

[Anonymous No.14836621]

>>14835751

[Anonymous No.14836623]

>>14836615
That's because he wanted to secure the Latino vote. Also, his campaign staffers were radlibs

[Anonymous No.14836633]

>>14836599
>My body is of the utmost importance because it can orgasm and have banal conversations about Derrida
You're a narcissist, friend.

[Anonymous No.14836644]

>>14836633
>Projecting my miseries in order to invalidate individual freedom / agency.

Dude, time to go to bed.

[Anonymous No.14836649]

>>14836644
>Misery
I'm perfectly alright. I can just recognize my inferiority to state-cultural entities because I'm not a narcissist.

[Anonymous No.14836676]

>>14836649
>recognize my inferiority to state-cultural entities

But you are though, you're one of those holier than you weasels who's also a narcissist about his own submission.

[Anonymous No.14836695]

>>14836676
>not being a narcissist makes you a narcissist
That's an odd form of projection mate. Accept you expendability useless and give your energy to the advancement of those things which can redeem our worthless bodies.

[Anonymous No.14836721]

>>14836649
>state-cultural entities
>an abstraction is a superior concept than me
Gotta work on that inferiority complex, m8. Try lead candy.

[Anonymous No.14836724]

>>14836695
>This worthless body that's enabling me to establish its worthlessness must surely be useless.

Keep writing

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !vYDuiInvv2 No.14836772]

>>14835751
At his age, Biden looks like he will last all of the next two terms of presidency.
Bernie on the other hand doesn't look that healthy. I wonder if he's already coughing blood at night.
At that age, health is a big concern. Bernie's last chance expired in 2016.

[Anonymous No.14836783]

>>14836721
Precisely. Certain abstractions because of the way they can achieve through utilizing bodies are our superiors. The goal is to o decentralize individuals and allow the the abstractions to gain the autonomy necessary to become a conscious agent of history. Man must be decentralized.
>>14836724
The body is worthless until it the world can be organized to acknowledge its worthlessness. The body is only useful to the state-cultural entity until it can gain true autonomy. It's usefulness is so limited and ephemeral that it isn't worth mentioning.

[Anonymous No.14836792]

>>14835751
America is about making money. It's not a nation state, it never was.

[Anonymous No.14836795]

>>14836450
Any American with a brain and a perspective of history realizes the our current economic growth is a farce. We are in a huge bubble that has been perpetuated so that the rich keep getting paid while blue collar towns and families get dicked over by tech companies soaking up everything and giving nothing back. The entire health care insurance and pharmaceutical industries profit, not from free-market competition, but from strangling the working class for additional cash. The unfortunate reality the American democratic process is bought and paid for by a collective that disseminates fragments of truth that frame the powerful and wealthy as the only people to ensure security through media bias. The fact that Bloomberg ever received that many delegates just from throwing up youtube ads speaks to that truth. The fact that boomers hear socialism and only think of Communists regimes reveals their intellectual dishonesty and brain washing from years of media propaganda. They have no choice but to fight Ole Big Red Russia, when really all they are swinging at are ghosts of an old era.

[Anonymous No.14836798]

>>14836477
Depends on the state

[Anonymous No.14836810]

>>14836523
>the expansion of the state good. Democratic socialism bad.

[Anonymous No.14836816]

>>14836810
Democratic socialism entails has the withering away of States as a long term goal. It's not a solution to the problem.

[Anonymous No.14836822]

>>14836649
dude you're just a cuck, thats not an intellectual position it's just fucking weird and bug brained

[Anonymous No.14836823]

To move the thread slightly closer to /lit/, what happened to black intellectuals and activists of the 60s? Is there a single one who is relevant these days?

[Anonymous No.14836836]

>>14836823
shaun king :)

[Anonymous No.14836838]

>>14836822
Give insects are our superiors, and we should arrive to be something like them in the short term.

Also, fuck intellectualism.

[Anonymous No.14836844]

>>14836816
Excellent sentence you've written there. So under Democratic Socialism, which provides programs based on well-defined human rights via state institutions where people become MORE DEPENDENT ON THE STATE, when does the state begin to dissolve?

[Anonymous No.14836846]

>>14836823
Angela Davis goes on speaking tours, and you can pay the hear her speak.

[Anonymous No.14836855]

>>14836823
FBI killed all of the intelligent and outspoken ones. That's why Black people vote against their own interests.

[Anonymous No.14836872]

>>14836783
>It's usefulness is so limited and ephemeral that it isn't worth mentioning.
If it's so useless and limited, why don't you throw it away?

[Anonymous No.14836879]

>>14836795
And what do you propose as a solution for american corporativism?

[Anonymous No.14836891]

Yep, I'm ridin' with Biden

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !vYDuiInvv2 No.14836916]

>>14836496
>I'd prefer human extinction via climate change to socialism being a possible form of human organist.
For someone that is against Bernie, you sure sound a lot like him; like when he said that he'd rather endorse Satan instead of Trump and basically alienated any christian that would ever vote for him in the future!

[Anonymous No.14836924]

>>14836916
Did Satan cheat on his wife?

[Anonymous No.14836927]

>>14836855
Everyone who isnt a Jewish Zionist votes against their own interests retard this isnt localized to black people.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !vYDuiInvv2 No.14836933]

>>14836924
>Implying Satan has a wife.
What are you, gay?

[Anonymous No.14836955]

>>14836485
U.S. lost Vietnam and invading other countries became taboo.

[Anonymous No.14837292]

>>14835799
Cynicism is not truth just because it sounds cynical

[Anonymous No.14837298]

>>14835751
Nothing can save America. It was doomed from the start. It's just unfortunate we all have to suffer their dumb hegemony.

[Anonymous No.14837397]

>>14835751
>American's

[Anonymous No.14837402]

Socialism does not work.

[Anonymous No.14837446]

>>14837292

Underrated post

[Anonymous No.14837464]

>>14837402


The only thing i dislike about him is his insistence to keep calling what he proposes "socialism". Nigga could have branded himself as a socialist democrat, not a democratic socialist. Literally what he proposes are things that any worthwhile developed country should provide - free healthcare and higher education.

t. Baltic who got a free bachelor's here and a free masters degree in Denmark.

[Anonymous No.14837470]

>>14835751
"Socialism" (Communism) doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.14837476]

Welfare is a massive dysgenics program and the subsidization of failure. Why would anyone vote for open borders and free shit to anyone who comes along

[Anonymous No.14837482]

>>14837464
"""Democratic""" socialism is still socialism.

In fact, there is nothing democratic about socialism, it's inherently undemocratic.

Healthcare is not free. Education is not free.

[Anonymous No.14837488]

>>14835751
This has nothing to do with /lit/ fuck off
Jannies here are fucking nonexistent

[Anonymous No.14837508]

>>14837482
ok boomer

[Anonymous No.14837523]

>>14835799
>This is exactly why we should continue voting for establishment politicians like Biden who will work hard to make this country work for the rich and the boomers, fellow kids!

[Anonymous No.14837530]

>>14837508
Not an argument.

>>14837523
Not an argument.

[Anonymous No.14837540]

>>14837530
Day of the pillow will come soon enough you decrepit piece of shit. I'm gonna flush all your Warfarin and take the house when you're gone faggot

[Anonymous No.14837545]

>>14837540
>Day of the pillow will come soon enough you decrepit piece of shit. I'm gonna flush all your Warfarin and take the house when you're gone faggot

[Anonymous No.14837546]

>>14837530
Pretty sure he was insulting you, not arguing.

[Anonymous No.14837550]

>>14837545
Actually I voted for Trump, dumbfuck

[Anonymous No.14837557]

>>14837540
You're a walking Kulak. What you seem to fail to understand is that should your stupid communist dream come through, you are a part of the very group you hate and want to kill.

>>14837546
Ad hom is not an argument.

[Anonymous No.14837565]

>>14837557
Ok boomer

[Anonymous No.14837570]

I don't get it, either.

Vote for the guy who wants to give you free shit, you idiots! It's that simple.