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or are you a mere spook?

>> No.14826574

I'm black but I'm not a spook

>> No.14826582

>>14826538
Stirners correct, that’s why I don’t follow his words and follow my own. In doing that I follow his words, and find myself in a zen flux of enlightening freedom. Stirner made even more sense to me after Buddhist enlightenment with the zen and dao. Religtards will seeth at the thought of tearing down their copes

>> No.14826607

>>14826538
>individuals are the reality
that sounds pretty spooky to me friend

>> No.14826609

>>14826538
Pills are a phantasm.

>> No.14826654

>>14826538
I didn't read Stirner. What's a spook?

>> No.14826671

>>14826654
A spook is an imaginary concept that people treat as tangible and influences their actions. A good example would be 'Mankind', or 'The State', or 'Society'.

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>>14826538
I'm gonna say it..... *AHEM*
Egoism is a spook.

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>>14826538
A pill is not a person.

>> No.14826892

>>14826671
So is Stirner the anti-Plato?

>> No.14827834

>>14826582
Based and dharma-pilled

>> No.14827865

>>14826689
Oof

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Dumping my spook collection

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>>14826538
Hold on a second. Is that actually Stirner's philosophy? Asking genuinely, I only come to this board to larp but that's something I'd genuinely be interested in reading about.

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>> No.14827931

>>14826892
Stirner influenced Nietzsche, the ultimate anti-Plato

>> No.14827995

>>14827931
What did Stirner think of the Forms?

>> No.14828004

>>14827995
Not sure about platonic forms in particular, but he does mention Truth, Justice and similar concept Socrates loved in his list of spooks.

>> No.14828015

>>14826671
Kinda the same thing as memes then isn't it ?

>> No.14828031

>>14828004
I never understood what Stirner's endgame was.
Dismiss spooks as worthless for they are not tangible. Then what? Is it deconstruction for its own sake?

>> No.14828044

>>14828015
Stirner is mostly criticizing moral and identitarian illusions. While memes are more ludic in nature.

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>>14828031
>Then what?
Then egoism

>> No.14828358

>>14826538
>individuals
no, INDIVIDUAL
other people are spooks aka pzombies aka npcs

>> No.14829266

>>14828015
No, spooks are ideas that don't have any inherint meaning in the real world but are used as rhetorical devices in order to force individuals to conform to a certain behavior. For example, saying you should do x for the sake of justice is dependent on the concept of justice, but Stirner would say justice is a bullshit term that doesn't actually mean anything so what I'm really saying is "do x because I want you to". Memes are funny pictures on the internet make me go haha.

>> No.14829299

>>14828031
Stirners goal is to show that morality is the result of obeying some ego. Spooks obscure this fact. Once you recognize this it becomes clear that the ego you should be obeying is your own. Ngl you can basically get the jist just by reading the into to Ego and it's Own

>> No.14829356

>>14826538
spooks are a spook

Imagine being represented by a cartoon your entire life like some insecure pussy.

>> No.14829370

>>14828060
Why is it necessary for me to be "The Egoist?" Is there any force to your proposition, or is it just appealing to pride?

>> No.14830084

>>14829370
Inevitably you must adhere to some ego. That begins with
>you
Adhering to some ego. You already are the subject of your own ego. So stop allowing yourself to be subverted.

>> No.14830095

>>14830084
Note that this doesn't mean you need to be an asocial bastard.

>> No.14830158

>gelatin capsule

I was immune from the start as a vegan