Socially conservative, fiscally left chart

[Anonymous No.14818474]

I saw a few days ago that thread asking for a Conservative socialism chart.

Seems like everyone disagreed on what that meant.

So I think what we need is a chart that doesn’t necessarily promote socialism in the vein of Marx, but a chart for people who believe in socially conservative traditions like families and religion, and believe government policies should reflect that, instead of claiming free market capitalism will do the job.

I do agree though that Lasch I think is a good place to start.

[Anonymous No.14818477]

>>14818474
But yeah, Lasch should definitely be on here.

> The Culture of Narcissism: American Life in an Age of Diminishing Expectations
> The True and Only Heaven: Progress and Its Critics
> The Revolt of the Elites: And the Betrayal of Democracy

[Anonymous No.14818479]

>>14818474
hitler i guess

[Anonymous No.14818484]

>>14818479
We should definitely distance ourselves from any totalitarian ideology like Nazism or fascism. Like the last thread.

[Anonymous No.14818488]

Looking through the last thread.

This seems like a good title.

[Anonymous No.14818494]

>>14818474
Lasch was a brilliant but troubled thinker and I would start someone off with Haven in a Heartless World or even Revolt of the Elites before Culture of Narcissism. All his earlier work needs to be approached with an understanding of the influence of Freud on every aspect of American intellectual life in the 70s. The passages in CofN where he tries to psychoanalyze American culture are just so cringe to read today - Lasch is at his best when acting as an intellectual historian; the scope and breadth of his primary sources is staggering.

[Anonymous No.14818546]

More books from the last thread:

>Why Liberalism Failed - Patrick Deneen
>After Virtue - Alasdair MacIntyre
>The Need for Roots - Simone Weil
>Ship of Fools - Tucker Carlson
>The Southern Tradition: The Achievement and Limitations of an American Conservativism

[Anonymous No.14818571]

>>14818488

Another book in a similar vein.

[Anonymous No.14818576]

Another book from that last thread:

[Anonymous No.14818583]

I definitely think distributism could be an alternative to socialism

[Anonymous No.14819191]

>>14818474
>The National System of Political Economy
>Beyond Capitalism & Socialism: A New Statement of an Old Ideal
>Free Trade Doesn't Work: What Should Replace It and Why
>How Rich Countries Got Rich and Why Poor Countries Stay Poor
>Distributist Perspectives: Essays on the Economics of Justice and Charity (two volumes)

[Anonymous No.14819435]

I don't think I've ever seen anyone claim that capitalism or liberalism will preserve family or tradition. What it sounds like you want is plain old conservatism, like actual conservatism and not what liberal Republicans in the US call conservative. Pat Buchanan is your guy.

Either way I'm wary of anyone who advocates for a "conservative socialism" because automatically translates into my head as "I want some very stupid and shortsighted policies like the minimum wage" or "I want to arbitrarily break up large companies because they're more efficient than their competitors." They make the same mistake a lot of progressive liberals make which is they don't consider economic issues in terms of tradeoffs and benefits, but rather problems and solutions. They identify a problem, say, people not getting the right healthcare, and then they come up with a solution, universal healthcare. Because they approach problems in this way they're not even capable of considering what universal healthcare will do to so the supply of healthcare and whether more people will actually be helped than the current system. It locks them out of identifying smaller and more effective changes that could actually increase access to healthcare.