/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14800394]

Which STEM degree is the most /lit/?

[Anonymous No.14800400]

>>14800394

[Anonymous No.14800407]

>>14800394
Literature

[Anonymous No.14800418]

>>14800394
mathematics

[Anonymous No.14800421]

>>14800394
Obviously math.

[Anonymous No.14800431]

>>14800394
Quantum, all that shits make believe just like philosophy.

[Anonymous No.14800434]

Theoretically? Mathematics.
Empirically? Chemistry.

[Anonymous No.14800873]

Forestry

[Anonymous No.14801280]

Computer science

[Anonymous No.14801290]

linguistics is

[Anonymous No.14801303]

>>14800394
pic related

[Anonymous No.14801308]

>>14801290
that be a social science, no?

[Anonymous No.14801315]

>>14800434
>assimov
>/lit/

[Anonymous No.14801348]

>>14801308
Probably. Wouldn't that make it science?

[Anonymous No.14801355]

>>14801348
>social science
>Wouldn't that make it science?

[Anonymous No.14801375]

>>14801308
There's enough logic in there to act as a rigorous foundation for analytical philosophy

[Anonymous No.14801376]

>>14801355
Okay, I get that some social sciences deal more in qualitative data than quantitative data (not necessarily linguistics though), and the field has an ongoing replicability crisis, but science has never been strictly quantitative, and the crisis has more to do with universities and publishers disincentivizing good work in favor of flashy work. Is there a good reason (outside the memes) to disassociate the social sciences from the broader term?

[Anonymous No.14801382]

>>14801348
Science means Natural Science. Social Science is a dishonest term because conscious entities are too unpredictable to be objectively measured.

[Anonymous No.14801419]

Absolutely not fucking computer science, I can tell you that much.
I'd say math too. Took some classes in the pure math department and the guys who make it to the advanced stuff seem like the most interesting people in STEM.

[Anonymous No.14801439]

>>14800394
Clearly Mathematics.

[Anonymous No.14801449]

Computer science
Quantum mechanics
Med science
Biology and related fields
Neuroscience

[Anonymous No.14801454]

>>14800418
>>14800421
>>14800434
>>14801439

[Anonymous No.14801458]

>>14801439
Guenon BTFO mathematics clearly not /lit/

[Anonymous No.14801463]

>>14801454
Based prison penpal

[Anonymous No.14801464]

>>14801454
>schizo
>not even the cool kind
no wonder he was an antisocial terrorist and now rots away in the belly of the beast he spent his entire life trying desperately but clumsily to escape from

[Anonymous No.14801473]

/lit/ is rightbrained and stem is leftbrained

the more mathematically rigorous a field is the less /lit/ it is

go for psychiatry

[Anonymous No.14801476]

CS and math

[Anonymous No.14801478]

>>14801473
Math is the most creative pursuit humanity has

[Anonymous No.14801481]

pure math because it is beautiful and abstract and such FUN once you get past your reqs—it's even coomer-approved because it is so fucking masturbatory. very /lit/.

[Anonymous No.14801495]

>>14801382
>conscious entities are too unpredictable to be objectively measured.
lmao
>what is cognitive neuroscience

[Anonymous No.14801503]

>>14801382
The natural sciences aren't just objective measurement. Though, inasmuch as anything can be objective, the natural sciences do more of it than the social sciences. Anyway, a bit of an aside, but why do technology and engineering get lumped with math and science, when the former have to deal (primarily, even) with conscious entities?

[Anonymous No.14801511]

>>14801454
he's so consumed with self-loathing (he was a mathematician) that he has to twist logic and rhetoric to force a point..

[Anonymous No.14801523]

>>14801511
Alone in his room, he was driven crazy by the sounds of the couple next door making love. Finally—and this is what broke my heart—Kaczynski decided to convince a psychiatrist to allow him to undergo the surgery and chemical treatments he thought would transform him into a woman, not because he was transgender, but because, as a woman, he might wrap his arms around himself and be held by someone female.

[Anonymous No.14801553]

>>14801454
>>14801458
>The two least /lit/ figures are against mathematics
Sounds like an endorsement

[Anonymous No.14801569]

>>14801478
Math is discovered not invented. You don't have the freedom to write down false theorems.

[Anonymous No.14801578]

>>14801569
/lit/ is just repeating the same 26 letters in different combinations. The combinations already exist as a mathematical fact see Borges in the Library of Babel.

[Anonymous No.14801581]

>>14801569
Every block of stone has a statue inside it and it is the task of the sculptor to discover it

[Anonymous No.14801593]

>>14800394
>>14800418
>>14800421
>>14801303
>>14801439
>>14801476
>>14801478
>>14801481
These... Mathematics is Philosophy's best friend in Academia.

A close second place goes to Linguistics:
>>14801290

After that: Physics (whether they like it or not).

[Anonymous No.14801599]

>>14801569
Creativity doesn't imply freedom.
For that matter, writing isn't entirely freedom.

[Simon Magus !!B6w9tJAyfF8 No.14801601]

>>14801569
Math is an invented system of symbolic manipulation.

[Anonymous No.14801620]

Pynchon was basically a MechE major before turning to lit.

[Anonymous No.14801622]

>>14800394
Who knows? I foolishly majored in English writing and I will spend the rest of my life regretting it

[Anonymous No.14801629]

Fuck maths, useless shit people pursue to feel smart and pretend they're above others

[Anonymous No.14801634]

>>14801578
>>14801581
>>14801599
>>14801601
funny how the libarts fags who've never even taken a proper course in real analysis are out of the woodwors defending a position they have no stake in or understanding of.

The formalism vs intuitionism debate was more than a century ago and every undergrad goes through 'that phase' where they ponder the same useless philosophical musings.

go write an sodeep essay about how the matrix is plato's cave or something

[Anonymous No.14801637]

>>14801629
>useless shit people pursue to feel smart and pretend they're above others
/lit/ in a nutshell math is clearly the closest

[Anonymous No.14801642]

>>14801629
its useful if you want to delve into STEM without having to specialize or relegating yourself to popsci.

[Anonymous No.14801651]

Mechanical Engineering.

[Anonymous No.14801658]

>>14801634
Which side won? If mathematicians think about it at all they're weak Platonists. What separates me from a Gauss or Euler isn't just analytic ability they had superhuman creativity.

[Anonymous No.14801817]

>>14800394
The formula is wrong. The integral equates to "ln(cabin) + C", or if you want to keep this a word puzzle, you could say "natural log(cabin) + C", but then the final section doesn't work

[Anonymous No.14801824]

>>14801817
are you autistic?

[Anonymous No.14801831]

>>14801817
Why would you use anything besides natural log in math? Calling base 10 log is for engineering plebs

[Anonymous No.14801838]

I'm scared to go into STEM and lose what little attention span I got left and never be able to read for more than an hour again...
Which will fucked me less? EE or ChemE?

[Anonymous No.14801842]

>>14801382
You can obviously still measure them, faggot, maybe not with as much precision as natural phenomena but they aren’t immune to the laws of nature

[Anonymous No.14801848]

>>14801838
noooo dont cuck to specialization, mathematics or death.

[Anonymous No.14801869]

>>14801848
I'm afraid I'm too low IQ for maths, but I guess it really is the only acceptable STEM major.

[Anonymous No.14801880]

>>14801869
Just do Economics, perfect mixture between Math and the social sciences. Has a Nobel prize, and most of the people studying it are lazy so with a minimum effort on your part you can score in the top of your class and then gain admission to a prestigious graduate course. Once there, publish a few papers and you're set. Write a couple Pop Econ books and enjoy the money and fame.

[Anonymous No.14801911]

>>14801495
Cognitive neuroscience proves his point, not yours. Do you have any idea how poorly we understand the brain? Did you know, for example, that we have absolutely no idea why antidepressants work, and one of the only conclusions we've drawn is that it has almost nothing to do with what we thought it was when we invented them (i.e. serotonin reception)?

[Anonymous No.14801946]

>>14801911
Are we even sure antidepressants work at all?

[Anonymous No.14801953]

>>14801511
??? can you be more specific?

[Anonymous No.14801960]

>>14801523
I'd be annoyed two if people were making load noise next to me. And he was trolling the psychologist.

[Anonymous No.14802013]

>>14801946
They work a few percentage points better than placebos. Probably. Which still work a frighteningly large percentage of the time.

[Anonymous No.14802081]

observational biology

[Anonymous No.14802192]

>>14801960
too

[Anonymous No.14802456]

I finished my first Semester exams today in Chemistry at top german Uni. At least 20% of the kids who took the exams will have failed and be kicked out of the degree. By the end of the next Semester it will be 60% of kids either kicked or voluntarily withdrew from the Degree.
I hate this degree. Can I please after the second semester (6 would be total) stop and jsut do Philosophy. Will I have earned enough credit to call myself Not-STEMlet? This is insufferable. Maybe 5% of what is taught is actually relevant to any philosophical thinking on Natural Sciences.
Learning about every unique little law and how the formulas change when an assumption gets changed or certain motion is changed is so fucking boring.
Please can I stop perhaps now already?

[Anonymous No.14802479]

>>14802456
What do you think of biology? It is a good intersection with chemistry and is not as subject to such rigorous annoyances. I am in a good course and am enjoying it greatly

[Anonymous No.14802508]

ee

[Anonymous No.14802633]

>>14801382
>unpredictable things cannot be measured
shit, i was just going to flip a coin, but now i know it's actually impossible to tell heads from tails

[Anonymous No.14802694]

>>14800394
Usually mathematicians themselves tend to be more /lit/ but in reality physicists are better equipped to engage with philosophy. Mathematicians can discuss philosophy of mathematics at best while physicists may ponder the nature or time, causality, etc... it's clear

[Anonymous No.14802731]

>>14802479
I do not care for forcing myself to remember every trivial name of formulas so I can throw it back up onto an exam paper. So Biology courses are the worst in my opinion.
The Math and mathematical methods for Physics and Chemistry of my degree actually would not annoy me if they weren't in such excess and in such detail.
Glad for you that you are enjoying Biology but I doubt any STEM degree would be any better (for me) than Chemistry.

[Anonymous No.14802890]

statistics

>>14801651
that's literally trades-level.

[Anonymous No.14803217]

None of them are /lit/.

[Anonymous No.14803229]

>>14801290
>linguistics
Semiotics. Linguistics is just a particular case of it.

[Anonymous No.14803242]

>>14802694
Physicists tend to be materialists though. I think pure mathematics makes you more open to noumenal concepts, especially if you tend toward mathematical realism.

[Anonymous No.14803253]

>coping with a career in stem by trying to find out which one is /lit/

[Anonymous No.14803347]

Entomology

[Anonymous No.14804012]

Who cares? All degrees are bourgeois phenomenon. The very notion of a specialized curriculum is inherently anti-educative and STEM just takes it to the extreme. A degree is a certification at worst and an apprenticeship at best. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[Anonymous No.14804082]

>>14801454
>Ted fell for the AI meme

[Anonymous No.14804168]

>>14804082
He's basically the opposite of Land then? They both see the same thing coming, but one wants to stop it and the other welcomes it.

[Anonymous No.14804276]

>>14802731
dude that's almost exactly my story, but i,m russian lol, i'm quit CE and stuck right now, i dont know what should i do, are you quit already or not huh?

[Anonymous No.14804288]

>>14801953
His advice, "don't study math because it's not a worthwhile endeavour," is premised on flawed assumptions. For example
>studying math is not useful for making technological progress
>studying math is not useful for one's career
This is, frankly, retarded. In practice there are many examples of people who studied math in undergrad and went on to careers in software design, applied math research, NASA, etc. They were successful at these jobs because their background in math provided them with an uncommonly strong grasp of quantitative principles and techniques to apply to practical problems. This has always been true, so one can't really argue that it might not be true during the time Ted wrote the letter. One could argue that some math students are spergs who couldn't hack it at a real job, but they usually stick to research as a career.
The fact that he has to resort to citing an article from Wired magazine (lmao) shows how desperate his point is.

So the question is, what causes someone to string together such a weak argument just to convince some kid not to study math?
The answer is that Ted himself studied math as an undergrad at Harvard, and went on to become the youngest-ever assistant prof in Mathematics at Berkeley.
Unfortunately, he was absolutely fucking nuts, and instead of dealing with his underlying mental illness, he turned it into a manifesto. If only he had managed (I'm not saying it's his fault, it's just tragic) to patch himself up, he might have been able to spend his life doing what he loved - math.

[Anonymous No.14804290]

This guy is pretty /lit/ and his field is math

[Anonymous No.14804316]

>>14804168
Land seems sane, tho, and he makes universally relevant arguments for his position.
Ted has an interesting point of view but he's not sane, and his view is mostly derived from his own inability to deal with other humans in any shape or form.
Anyone who appeals to kaczynski as an authority is nothing but a LARPer

[Anonymous No.14804479]

>>14804316
>Land
>sane

[Anonymous No.14804957]

>>14804276
It is such a radically difference for the easy potentials in your life if you complete your degree vs if you do not, so I really do not want to make that decision for you (unless I missunderstood and you already Have quit your CE degree, then... kek).
For me I will try next semester to pass everything as well and then make the final decision in summer.
I am already in a philosophy degree which is far more lax so that is my first priority anyways as well as my fall back if I stop this shit of a degree.