/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14788892]

How old were you when you realized it’s nearly impossible to make it as a writers nowadays?

[Anonymous No.14788902]

It's always been impossible to make it as a writer.

[Anonymous No.14788913]

your definition of personal success doesn't have to be what (((they))) tell you it is

[Anonymous No.14788916]

>>14788892
do you think you would make it as a writer in 1905?

[Anonymous No.14788926]

>>14788892
Finishing my first book took away my passion. I used to write for fun. Now I can't write at all

[Anonymous No.14788932]

>>14788892
That is the dumbest one of these yet

[Anonymous No.14788941]

>>14788932
What is this based on?

[Anonymous No.14789006]

>>14788941
It's difficult to determine that because the national park service refuses to speak about his case

[Anonymous No.14789035]

>>14789006
TELL ME

[Anonymous No.14789044]

>>14789035
he's joking dumb zoomer

[Anonymous No.14789048]

>>14788892
It’s not though. Very few people earnestly try, and most who try are complete trash. I’m sure some good ones get passed over but you don’t have to be a godlike figure to get some book deals and a teaching job. Becoming a bestseller or famous is another matter but you just said make it.

[Anonymous No.14789052]

>>14788932
Lmfao this is amazing

[Anonymous No.14789060]

If you're a genius you can make it. If you're NOT a genius you can still sometimes make it, you just have to be lucky. If you're a midwit who also has no luck, then yes, you are boned.

[Anonymous No.14789062]

How old were you when you started laughing

[Anonymous No.14789065]

>>14788941
There's an epidemic of people disappearing from national forests in the US. Probably spooks abducting people for human experimentation, mind control and sex trafficking.

[Anonymous No.14789067]

>>14789044
But the clothes thing is definitely a reference to an actually case
https://youtu.be/MJjN00g2FMU

[Anonymous No.14789071]

>>14789065
>epidemic
>source: my angus beef sandwich
?

[Anonymous No.14789077]

>>14788941
the neatly folded clothes on a boulder I think is based on two bimbos who got lost hiking in south america. creepy stuff

[Anonymous No.14789081]

>>14788892
16 when I was editor in chief of my schools paper. Most published writing is shit and nobody cares. Low readership. Lit mags are read by wanna be writers, not regular people. Video has displaced lit

[Anonymous No.14789099]

>>14789081
Video will never replace literature, the sensations you get from watching a movie and reading a book are totally different. they stimulates different parts of your mind.

[Anonymous No.14789185]

>>14789081
It's because the population has gotten less intelligent, and the break between high and low classes has been culturally shattered, permeating all places of society.

[Anonymous No.14789228]

>>14789185
id argue its just america thats like this

[Anonymous No.14789245]

>>14789185
>the population has gotten less intelligent
Demonstrably untrue, although that doesn't mean I don't agree that shit is getting much worse
Culture-capital has an amazing tendency to reconfigure and calcify all degrees of intelligence along set channels that either serve its interests or stay neatly out of its way

[Anonymous No.14789256]

>>14789062
Based.

[Anonymous No.14789258]

>>14789245
>Demonstrably untrue
?

[Anonymous No.14789270]

>>14789228
IQ, for example, is dropping throughout the developed world. This has been demonstrated on studies in Europe. In places where they're demographically the same, America is even with Europe in most things.
>>14789245
>Culture-capital has an amazing tendency to reconfigure and calcify all degrees of intelligence along set channels that either serve its interests or stay neatly out of its way
But that's the equivalent of people getting less intelligent, in this case. What we're seeing isn't a function of biological change, but of cultural change. And they run from all sorts of factors, such as increased distraction from smart phones and porn, a change in diet, a degrading educational system, a decreased appreciation for intellectual pursuits, etc.

[Anonymous No.14789272]

>>14789062
That was such a sweet-hearted and cute meme.

[Anonymous No.14789280]

>>14788892
It never was likely but hey, it doesn't hurt to try. Think I'll give up and go for self-publishing after 150 queries.

Talking about them, as personalising them really necessary when your work does fit to what an agent wants? A lot advice seems aimed at idiots who just see the e-mail of an agent and mail shit to them. If I did my research and knew they represent the type of work, wouldn't it be better just to get balls in instead of wasting a line on how you liked their clients work?

[Anonymous No.14789293]

Giving up my dreams of being a great writer was the greatest thing I did. Now I can actually be a down-to-earth human being instead of a vainglorious idiot with a messiah complex. Who knows, I may even write something interesting now that I‘ve given up on writing. Or pick up other hobbies.

Just be nobody, anons. Even Shakespeare and Homer are minuscule specks in the universe, forgotten by the average person in their day-to-day life.

[Anonymous No.14789302]

>>14789293
>cope

[Anonymous No.14789327]

>>14789302
Keep telling yourself that, anon. Reality will catch up to you, too. Hell, maybe YOU yourself will even become a great writer. But even so, you’ll realize there’s more to life than performing for an audience and vaingloriously wishing to be remembered by people when it won’t matter since you’re dead.

[Anonymous No.14789332]

>>14789258
Nearly every world population I can find statistics on is either still rising due to the Flynn effect or has plateaued over the past few decades and reached stasis. The only exceptions are within local regions that have experienced large influxes of immigration from developing nations
>>14789270
>But that's the equivalent of people getting less intelligent, in this case.
It isn't, that's like saying that a computer being used for a narrower and/or simpler set of tasks means that its processing power has decreased. Intelligence is a system's capacity to navigate problem spaces within a wide array of various environments (abstractly speaking). Using negative and/or positive reinforcement to coax a system into busying itself on only a subset of the problems available to it is a matter of influencing system priority, not of directly affecting its actual capacities

[Anonymous No.14789335]

>>14788892
Tell that to all the dudes raking it in from smoothbrain mouthbreathers on their mediocre web serial patreons.

[Anonymous No.14789348]

>>14789327
i have no ambition to become a writer in any capacity but your post is still pure cope

[Anonymous No.14789349]

>>14788932
lol literally just saw this on /out/ yesterday

[Anonymous No.14789379]

>>14789348
Ok.

[Anonymous No.14789392]

>>14789379
also, sad
coping with failure by trying to convince yourself that "none of it matters anyways" is quite sad, indeed

[Anonymous No.14789416]

>>14789332
>still rising due to the Flynn effect
the flynn effect isn't really proof that people are becoming more intelligent

[Anonymous No.14789435]

>>14789327
Not him but why not trying to be a great author for your own sake, and seeing the audience as a bonus? I don't care about being remembered (it doesn't even make sense, I'd be dead, w/e people think of me ain't my problem) ... but while I'm alive and enjoy it so much, doing something I love and try to give people some joy back with the same thing ... sounds too obvious not to do.

[Anonymous No.14789476]

>>14789416
I know, I don't believe it is either. It seems like improving living conditions and nutrient access is allowing stunted populations to approach their more hard-coded limits of cognition

[Anonymous No.14789550]

>>14789335
Only one I know of that made halfway decent money was Worm.

[Anonymous No.14789554]

>>14789476
And living conditions started to sink in the first world, so it doesn't have to be a limit.

[Anonymous No.14789557]

Had a talk with a friend over the weekend. What would you need to get out of your writing to consider yourself a success? For me, it's bills paid and food in the fridge with maybe a little left over.

[Anonymous No.14789560]

>>14788941
My dad reads these books all the time. He loves the Hey Ranger! series which is about dumbass shit and questions people ask Park Rangers. There's also quite a few books about people who go missing in the Smoky Mountains and National Parks. Kind of spooky sometimes.

[Anonymous No.14789841]

>>14789557
Getting picked up by the big 5 would do, basically recognition from someone willing to put their money where their mouth is. Even if the advance is sad. After that, getting close to Rowling numbers with muh franchise.

Pretty indifferent to anything in-between.

[Anonymous No.14789858]

>>14789557
Once I see people I have no personal connection to arguing over my works without my influence
That's my goal

[Anonymous No.14789900]

>>14789071
Look for the book Missing 411

[Anonymous No.14789937]

>>14789293
I don't want to be the next Shakespeare. I just want people to read my shit beyond acquaintances I awkwardly force it on.

[Anonymous No.14789972]

>>14789858
Wut?

[Anonymous No.14789984]

>>14789972
What part do you need me to repeat

[Anonymous No.14790003]

>>14789841
This basically. Right or wrong I want some validation from the "establishment".

I also want to stand in front of the new books/new authors shelf in a bookstore and not seethe with envy.

[Anonymous No.14790014]

>>14788941
Look up Missing 411. Very strange stuff.

[Anonymous No.14790100]

>>14788892
>How old were you when you gave up on your dreams?

[Anonymous No.14790249]

>>14789984
The part that made no sense, so all of it.

[Anonymous No.14790274]

>>14790249
Nigga what? He basically wants anons to shitpost about his work.

[Anonymous No.14790288]

>>14790249
If I have published a book, and if it has been read by others, and if I happen to stumble across some people arguing over my book, and if I have no personal connection to those people that would somehow increase the likelihood of them having read my book, THEN I shall consider my goal fulfilled

[Anonymous No.14790344]

>>14790249
Nitwit

[Anonymous No.14790356]

>>14790288
I don't need them to argue. I'd feel elated just to see someone glance at the back cover of my book in the store.

[Anonymous No.14790388]

>>14788892
omg i love this hahahaha i relate so much to this image

[Anonymous No.14790643]

>>14789077
They were not bimbos. Shut up.

[Anonymous No.14790646]

>>14788892
After many years of study and portfolio-building, I obtained a job writing for a newspaper. Eight months in, I find I can no longer avoid the decision to quit. I don't know whether to apply to another, similar job or just take my money and go live in a cave somewhere or what. I spent seven years studying journalism stuff in school. If I had to do it all over again, I would have picked a different profession.

[Anonymous No.14790873]

>>14789550
All you have to do is write a power fantasy couched in trite pseudo-intellectualism. The he who fights with monsters guy is making like 10k a month. Of course you have to update every day, but that's the only hard part.