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How does the statement "there is no objective truth" not appeal to the concept of objective truth? Isn't subjectivism contradictory because it always rests on a dubious metaphysical claim? I promise I'm not here to troll I genuinely want to understand postmodernism better.

>> No.14757955

>>14757924
I think most postmodernists would disagree with the idea that there is no objective truth- objectivity exists, but my claim that purports to be objective necessarily depends on a particular frame (or metanarrative) that may or may not be true. one of the big problems you might encounter with scientific objectivity is what the data is being used for, what grand narrative or agenda is being served through those supposedly “neutral” facts.

>> No.14757982

>>14757924
Modernists think objective truth exists and can be achieved with proper appilaction of reason. Pomos generally believe objective truth might exist but that it can't be achieved by humans using reason.
https://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/engl_258/Lecture%20Notes/modernism_vs_postmodernism.htm

>> No.14757990

>>14757924
You're essentially describing what is called skepticism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_skepticism

>> No.14758000

>>14757990
postmodernism is explicitly relativism and denial of objective truth isn't it? i just looked at >>14757982 the chart here and it appears to be

>> No.14758006

>Isn't subjectivism contradictory because it always rests on a dubious metaphysical claim? I promise I'm not here to troll I genuinely want to understand postmodernism better.

Yes, check out Rosen's Nihilism

Just don't become a Straussian.

>> No.14758011

>>14757982
>conflates modernism with human and empiricism

retarded nazis can’t even into philosophy

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14758018

>>14758011
>university of idaho is a nazi institution

>> No.14758032

>>14758018
worse than nazi: American

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>>14758011
Welcome to 4chan!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRR-GdErmN0

>> No.14758044

>>14757982
>Reason itself is a specific Western tradition (ideology) competing with other traditions, like faith and other cultural means of knowing.
I know we like to shit on stemfags, but seriously, try to write a computer program using faith or "other cultural means of knowing".

>> No.14758057

>>14758044
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TempleOS

>> No.14758089

>>14758057
Yeah that's a religious work that still had to obey the objective, transcendental logic, or it wouldn't compile - Being rejects bad code!