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[Anonymous No.14757396]

>tfw cant refute god

[Anonymous No.14757406]

>>14757396
I have.

[Anonymous No.14757410]

gods made up dude. fake guy, from a book about shit that didn't happen

[Anonymous No.14757412]

>>14757396
cant prove him either

[Anonymous No.14757461]

>>14757410
>only thinks of Abrahamic god whenever someone says "God"
That's the biggest shit Christianity took on the world.

[Anonymous No.14757515]

>>14757412
in order to prove God, you'd need a presuppositon of God.
just like in order to prove numbers, you need to use numbers.
or in order to prove logic, you need to use logic.
else you just end up inductive reasoning trap that always provides a false negative irregardless of the quality or quantity of proof (absolute skepticism).
you can't really justify using logic if logic has no justification in your worldview; else you'd be arguing in bad faith on a foundational level.
meanwhile, you can't conveniently pin logic to material such as a neural construct as that would be paradigmatically incoherent as immaterial logic would presuppose material.

this was all covered in Godel's Incompleteness Theorems and other shit.

[Anonymous No.14757518]

>>14757515
im a theist but "logic exists therefore god exists" is a non sequitor

[Anonymous No.14757538]

>>14757518
it's far more coherent than nothing; which is what atheists presuppose:
prove logic without logic.

[Anonymous No.14757539]

>>14757396
Define "god"

[Anonymous No.14757542]

>>14757396
Epicurus did it like 3000 years ago.
Theists are still trying to refute him.

[Anonymous No.14757543]

>>14757515
>irregardless

[Anonymous No.14757551]

>>14757396
God is the prime mover. Case closed, atheistcucks heh.

[Anonymous No.14757553]

>>14757543
Irreregardless*

[Anonymous No.14757571]

>>14757553
*non-unirregardlessedly

the transcendental argument blows out atheist-cucks out in debate, still no argument for theism if one is willing to accept complete chaos/irrationality/solipsism though. simply comes down to a choice, a matter of opinion or feeling.

[Anonymous No.14757588]

>>14757539
That which fulfills the basic ontological presuppositions of logoi: math, logic, reason, etc.

Once you establish that, you can venture into more complex theological discussions which lead into which religions has a better handle on understanding God.

[Anonymous No.14757590]

>>14757538
>prove logic without logic
why do you have to prove what is observable? logic is a priori

[Anonymous No.14757600]

>>14757588
Logii*

[Anonymous No.14757601]

>>14757590
You can't observe logic.
I can't observe the #4.
I also can't observe your mind or other metaphysical things.

[Anonymous No.14757605]

>>14757551
Chad fucks her every night whilst theist cucks read their bible.

[Anonymous No.14757607]

>>14757601
>4
idk man i can see that 4 pretty clearly

[Anonymous No.14757609]

>>14757600
No it's logoi.

[Anonymous No.14757614]

>>14757607
A drawing of the #4 isn't actually the number 4; it's a representation.
Much like if I drew you an illustration of an apple, it's not actually an apple.

[Anonymous No.14757617]

>>14757551
>>14757396
if god exists, then why does it make huge poos going through my qt anus and make it bleed?

[Anonymous No.14757627]

>tfw god will never ever answers

[Anonymous No.14757635]

>>14757627
Gotta give God a voice for Him to speak.
It's your head, you get to set the rules if He gets to speak or not.

[Anonymous No.14757645]

>>14757614
>>14757607
>>14757601
Number 4 does not exist

[Anonymous No.14757657]

>>14757607
>God
Idk man I see that God pretty clearly

[Anonymous No.14757660]

>>14757645
>numbers don't exist
>logic doesn't exist
>reason doesn't exist
>time doesn't exist
>space doesn't exist
>the mind doesn't exist
>choice doesn't exist
>freewill doesn't exist
>truth doesn't exist
>self doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.14757685]

>>14757515
>irregardless

[Anonymous No.14757688]

>>14757660
I know it hurts yet is true

[Anonymous No.14758054]

>>14757410
>he thinks God only comes from man-made books
What is natural theology?

[Anonymous No.14758058]

>>14757542
>Epicurus
>an atheist
Quickest way to spot a brainlet.

[Anonymous No.14758060]

>>14757551
Is that the same god as the one who gets mighty angry if you eat seafood?

[Anonymous No.14758065]

>>14757396
https://discord.gg/X5uk75G

[Anonymous No.14758068]

>>14757396
>tfw God refutes you