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Alright /lit/ here the recommended childrens guide FIRST DRAFT i made.

some things to note:

1. image is very large, i want to split it into two images or at the very least have it categorised better. Not sure what the categories should be though, childrens and toddlers maybe? with a third one for some young adult fiction?

2. the actual books. I'm not really looking to add any more books and i haven't read half the books that i've put on the list, but do you think there's a good range of stuff there?

3. are there any parents here on /lit/ who see this as a useful thing? Especially if they were a first time parent? Do you see this as useful? What changes would you like to see? If you saw this before you had given your child books what other info would you find helpful that we could possibly add?

4. format, i know the format isn't great (font used etc) but this is a first draft. Also looking to add a bigger paragraph at the top as an introduction. what do you think? yes/no? good idea/bad idea? should i go straight to the books? should we have a small introduction?
that's all /lit/
this is a first draft and if i upload it to the wiki it will only be for a short time whilst i work on categorising this list/making two smaller lists!

(had to change the file type from PNG to JPG so hope it looks okay)

pic unrelated

>> No.1475556

yeah, definitely split it into categories, the hungry caterpillar and holes are vastly different.

p good range, only add The little prince to it aswell, that's a good read even for an adult.

It might not be useful but it's not detrimental and could be helpful to a small amount of people.

>> No.1475592

>>1475556
>>1475556

yeah it definately needs to be done, and i knew there was one book lots of people wanted on there that i forgot!

thanks, i will definately add it

>> No.1475616

bump

>> No.1475652

bump

>> No.1475663

i would advocate for "anything by Astrid Lindgren" rather than limiting it to Pippi.

>> No.1475671

>>1475663
oh and also HC Andersen and the bros Grimm fairytales

>> No.1475718

>>1475671
>>1475671
>>1475663
>>1475663

okay guys duly noted, any specific works of HC Anderson? or just in general?

also i will be bumping this throughout the day so it gets maximum attention, i realise few americans are on right now

>> No.1475731

You probably want learning to read, moving onto proper reading. So Hungry Caterpillar, Where the wild things are in the former; Narnia, the Iron Giant in the latter.

Also, Laura's Star/ Lauras Stern is a good one.

>> No.1475867

>>1475731
>>1475731

yeah this actually does seem like the best thing, i'm gonna spend some time today researching the appropriate age brackets for these books but they seem pretty self-evident.

bump for more things to add too!
i'm gonna contribute the Goosebumps books

>> No.1475953

bump

>> No.1477157

bumping this now because there should be some more americans (and hopefully some parents) browsing

>> No.1477165

add the sun also rises
or anything hemingway really

>> No.1477169

thanks OP

>> No.1477167 [DELETED] 

>>1475545
>No Katie Morag
Ohshitniggawtfareyoudoing.mkv

>> No.1477175

>>1477165

might be a little too advanced Stag
if i was going to add any baby literature it'd be The Great Gatsby

>>1477167
>>1477167

anything in particular i should add from her?

>>1477169
>>1477169

thankss

>> No.1477178

>>1477175
great gatsby is too verbose for any child or moron to appreciate
hemingway has the vocabulary of a sixth grader

>> No.1477182

>>1477175
Katie Morag is the character not the author pal
Clearly katie morag is not known in america
Carry on

>> No.1477186

>>1477178

The Great Gatsby is just an over rated piece of trash, praised by morons who are unable to truly appreciate good literature?

why do you like it or something?

>> No.1477187

>>1477182
>>1477182

i'm English and still haven't heard of her D:
anything i should specifically add?

>> No.1477188

>>1477186
If it's a piece of trash then why is it #2 on the modern library best books
check and mate

It is my favorite book

>> No.1477190

>>1477187
Must just be a scottish thing then
Don't bother then, amerifags wont get it

>> No.1477197

>>1477188

>1. Ulysses by James Joyce

welp looks like that list is a good one

>>1477190
>>1477190

well this list is for everyone! Some scots will definately be reading this list at some point, i'll just add some random books suggesting a series. thanks for the contribution

>> No.1477201

>>1477197
>>1477197
Well if you're definitely putting it in then put in Katie Morag delivers the mail
Fucking classic

>> No.1477207

cool story bro

>> No.1477210

>>1477201
>>1477201

alright man, noted and will be added

>> No.1477224

Mrs. Frisby and the rats of NIMH.

Here's my two cents on how to divide it up

under 5
5-6
7-9
10-13.

These are the rough ages of development if you wish I'll put the characteristics of each age to help pinpoint which literature belongs where.

>> No.1477226

>>1477210
Well done
This list is like a massive nostalgia rush for me
Also just noticed you don't have the hobbit, charlottes web or stig of the dump
Sorry i have a million of these

>> No.1477248

>>1477224
>>1477224

that would be SUPER fucking helpful

>>1477226
>>1477226
i think with these 3 added we have a pretty good list.

>> No.1477249

bump

>> No.1477277

I loved E.B. White when I was young.

My boy was just born a couple of months ago and, when he is of age, I intend to read James Herriot to him.

>> No.1477279

>>1477248
5-6. Short attention span, needs constant adult supervision. When they are are at a play they want adults nearby, respond to plays, can control their body with entire energy to any stimuli, beginning of socialization. Like stories about animals and fantasy heroes that are stereotypes and archetypes. Strong visual impressions, idealist, optimism needs reinforced
7-9 they love rules, gaining control of their bodies, they like boundaries upon themselves and are into hobbies and collecting things. Are started to become socialized, are interested in rules and perceived fairness, sensitive and emotional, codify what they understand, work out expected behavior. good & bad clearly defined, classic fairy tales that embody morals and values.
10-13
recognition of individual differences, seeds of adolescent trauma can crop up, looking for acceptance, individual abilities matter more than good & bad, daydreaming, hero worship, acceptance of themselves
14-18
teenagers becoming adults, often too cool, and unreasonable as an excuse for failure, realize there are good & bad choices, others outside themselves are not good or/& bad. boys are into mystery and sci-fi, girls are into romance. both are into famous people, individuals who made sacrifice.

>> No.1477355

>>1477277
>>1477277

nice thanks :D
>>1477279
>>1477279
thanks for this, this looks like the best course of action

>> No.1477361

>>1477355
You're killing /lit/.

>> No.1477385

>>1477361
This whole trying to act like /lit/ is a community, this obsession with the wikia, its just so facebook. Recommendation images? the forcing of solidarity on what is ultimately a chaotic group of people, pretending that there's some consensus when none exists. It just irks me.

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1477389

>>1477361
>>1477361
>contributing to the wiki
>killing /lit/

pic related

>> No.1477390

>>1477385
It's what happens when people come here who don't have jobs or spouses or girlfriends/boyfriends or children or hobbies.

>> No.1477393

>>1477361
>>1477385
SO WH4T WOULD YOU 4LL SUGG3ST? W3 4LL JUST S1T 4ROUND 4ND SHOV3 OUR THUMBS UP 34CH OTH3RS 4SS3S?

TH1S 1S WHY /TG/ 1S B3TT3R TH4N YOU

TH3Y G3T SH1T DON3 4ND DONT WH1N3 4BOUT 1T G3TT1NG DON3

>> No.1477397

>>1477393
If you want to contribute, try speaking normally, I'm not going to read that shit.

>> No.1477400

>>1477393
"they get shit done"

Haha. Yeah, look at all this stuff that needs to be done. Gosh, look at it.

>> No.1477401

>>1477390
Yeah, all I really want to do is be able to come here, and talk about books and sometimes get into philosophical shouting matches. I don't want /lit/ to be some sort of bizarre identity like brownbear apparently wants.

>> No.1477411

>>1477400
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>>1477401
HOW 1S M4K1NG R3COM3ND4T1ON 1M4G3S CH4NG1NG /L1T/? 1M SORRY BUT 1 R34LLY S33M TO B3 M1SS1NG SOM3TH1NG H3R3

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>> No.1477415

>>1477401
Didn't Brownbear say he turned down a job at Cambridge?

Maybe he should have took that job, after all.
Teaching at Cambridge or making /lit/ a lovely, gated community?

Yer mum proud of your choice, Brownbear?

>> No.1477416

>>1477411
Thanks for your interest in my post, but I'm still not going to read that pointless muddle.

>> No.1477418

>>1477415
>>1477415

no i turned down a place to read at cambridge.
i'm 18 bro.

also how is making recommendation images a bad thing?

please.

seriously

>> No.1477419

>>1477415

How is this making lit a gated community?

>> No.1477423

>>1477418
Because the existence of a recommendation image implies consensus, its an arbitrary codification, and by creating it for the point of providing a dismissive answer to people who ask for recommendations implies a degree of objectivity that I feel is unjustified.

>> No.1477422

>>1477418
I had no idea you were 18. I thought you were 45.

Well, a lot is explained. Let me guess: no job, no girlfriend?

>> No.1477434

>>1477419
its a metaphor, he's correlating the sort of bland manufactured aesthetic and lack of sincerity of the modern housing development to the act of creating a superficial listing of a half a dozen random people's opinion of best books and treating it as representative.

>> No.1477439

>>1477423
>implying answering threads on the subject is any more objective/less subjective than the wiki

>> No.1477443

>>1477439
No, I'm not implying that, but they don't pretend to be, a wiki does, at least to a greater extent.

>> No.1477448

>>1477418
You're missing the entire point of 4chan. It's anonymous. It's ephemeral. The threads here today will be gone in a week. That's the point.

You're trying to make /lit/ a lasting and permanent community. It's horseshit. Get a better hobby; something you can be proud of.

>> No.1477450

>>1477434
I've never seen anyone complain about wiki's before. And when people ask for recommendations it's less sampled than the wiki b/c of the amount of users that are on.

>> No.1477453

>>1477443
And the result is the same, except /lit/ is less cluttered for the wiki. So why again are you bitching?

>> No.1477455

>>1477390

I literally have every single one of the things you mentioned and I lurk /lit/ to the detriment of most of them. Having said that, I appreciate what the tripfag is doing. /lit/ is a nice idea that, in reality, is a boring slog through 15 pages of posturing and trolling.

ITT, people actually talking about books. I like it.

>> No.1477463

>>1477450
> /lit/ is less cluttered for the wiki
[citation needed]

>>1477450
Its less sampled but its conversational, its not passed down in stone tablets.

>> No.1477470

>>1477448
OH R1GHT

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H4RK! V13W Y3 NOW TH3 TR4PP1NGS OF OUR 4NC3STORS 4ND HOW FOOL1SH TH3Y W3R3 TO US3 4 W1K1

FOR W1K1S M4Y NOT B3 CH4NG3D

>> No.1477473

>>1477463
They are more for general readers who don't know what to get into. It's no a stone tablet everyone must read or follow, or those are the only books we discuss.

>> No.1477523

>>1477422
>>1477422

no i have a job, and im kinda seeing someone but ya know nothing concrete

the point of the wiki is to point users in the right direction, instead of spouting a list of the same books over and over and over. The wiki does not stop anyone from posting here on /lit/ and in fact it actually encourages that by giving them some books to read.

please can we get back on topic?

>> No.1477561

bump

>> No.1477632

last bump before i make the new images

>> No.1477700

You forgot Ende, really great author "Neverending Story" and "Momo".

I also wouldn't mind seeing some Roald Dahl like "Matilda" and "The Witches".

Also:
The Wonderful Wizard of Oz by L. Frank Baum
The Adventures of Pinocchio by Carlo Collodi
Peter Pan by J. M. Barrie
Mary Poppins by P. L. Travers
The Last Unicorn by Peter S. Beagle
The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett
The Jungle Books by Rudyard Kipling
Black Beauty by Anna Sewell