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Who was the most /lit/ of statesmen? What is the most /lit/ political philosophy/ideology?

>> No.14742130

>>14742108
>most /lit/ statesman
Probably some Chinese Emperor at some point throughout their history, since they were legally bound to be philosopher-priest-kings. Of the last 100 years, probably Stalin, since he read a shitload and was well-versed in theory.

>most /lit/ political philosophy
Islam.

>> No.14742132

>>14742108
Ataturk or Jawaharlal Nehru

>> No.14742141

>>14742130
If we're considering kings then Asoka for sure.

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Jesse "the body" Ventura
American constitutionalism

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>>14742108
If we are taking modern, there’s only one answer and you know it.

>> No.14742192

>>14742176
I wouldn't say he's the most /lit/ leader, but probably follower of the most /lit/ ideology. Islam as it has developed over the last 1400 years or so is a very interesting political ideology that requires mastery of so many different skills (history ,theology, Neoplatonic philosophy, and even Philology) that I don't think any other political ideology can compete with it for being most /lit/. Islamic scholars are crazily well-educated and diverse in their fields of study.

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>>14742176
If not, I do like Ismail I.

My name is Shāh Ismā'īl. I am God's mystery. I am the leader of all these ghāzīs.
My mother is Fātima, my father is 'Ali; and eke I am the Pīr of the Twelve Imāms.
I have recovered my father's blood from Yazīd. Be sure that I am of Haydarian essence.
I am the living Khidr and Jesus, son of Mary. I am the Alexander of (my) contemporaries.
Look you, Yazīd, polytheist and the adept of the Accursed one, I am free from the Ka'ba of hypocrites.
In me is Prophethood (and) the mystery of Holiness. I follow the path of Muhammad Mustafā.
I have conquered the world at the point of (my) sword. I am the Qanbar of Murtaza 'Ali.
My sire is Safī, my father Haydar. Truly I am the Ja'far of the audacious.
I am a Husaynid and have curses for Yazīd. I am Khatā'ī, a servant of the Shāh's.

>> No.14742202

Hitler was well read but uneducated and had amateur understanding of everything he read. Deladier was very well read which is why he got bullied by everyone. Total nerd.

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*actually translates theory into practical policies and changes the trajectory of European history in your way*
nothing personal, kid

>> No.14742232

>>14742108
>Who was the most /lit/ of statesmen?
Frederick The Great

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In my opinion Schmidt was an eloquent, well-read and highly intelligent statesman. During his political career and also in his private life he was intensively engaged in the ethics of responsibility and philosophy in general.

>> No.14742365

Mao re-read the classics constantly and practiced calligraphy, but he understood that the plebs shouldn't read literature so he warned them about the dangers of book reading.

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>>14742108
*wrote his dissertation on the philosophies of Immanuel Kant and Oswald Spengler*
*studied Metternich and Bismarck*
*wrote numerous history books*
*became the most famous American statesman of the later 20th century*
*BTFOs liberals left and right with the realpolitik redpill*

Most based statesman in recent memory

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>>14742372
refuted by Chomsky

>> No.14742392

>>14742108
Pope Ratzinger and >>14742176

>>14742130
"Theory".

>> No.14742404

>>14742388
*would rather have America retreat into isolationism and allow Russia and China to grow to the point they could threaten international stability*

>> No.14742434

Probably some Pope, since Catholicism is absolutely /lit/.

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>>14742108
gaddafi

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>>14742130
Stalin was fucking retarded

>> No.14742448

>>14742437
Just /fit/

>> No.14742451

>>14742446
This is from Foundations of Leninism btw

>> No.14742452

>tfw getting a /lit/ education in oxford right now but come from an irrelevant nordic country so even if I were to run for president no one would know how much of a philosopher-statesman I am

>> No.14742453

>>14742108
>most /lit/ political philosophy/ideology
Apolitcal absurdism.

>> No.14742460

>>14742453
thats literally the most reddit

>> No.14742464

>>14742452
Become a billionaire, modern elite aren't political but financial giants

>> No.14742482

unironically the answer is Nero. if you read Edward Champlin's biography of him, youll see that he was deeply invested in mythology and literature. he was obsessed with theater. he saw his own life as an extension of mythology. Champlin's biography makes him seem like the most /lit/ psychopath who ever lived
>>14742108
have you ever actually read Mao? it feels like shitposting. On New Democracy is maybe one of the worst things ive ever forced myself to read.

>> No.14742496

>>14742404
yes
even right wing "libertarian" retards realize that the putative danger of Soviet/Chinese invasion was a hoax propounded by neocon columnists to brainwash people into thinking that another world war, this time against the commies, was imminent. after the Cuban crisis any threat posed by the Soviets to America was minuscule and negligible
>Even in the other Eastern European countries, Russia clung to coalition governments for several years after the war
and only fully communized them in 1948—after three years of unrelenting American Cold War pressure to try to oust Russia from these countries. In other areas, Russia readily pulled its troops out of Austria and out of Azerbaijan.
The cold warriors find it difficult to explain Russian actions in Finland. If Russia is always hell-bent to impose Communist rule wherever it can, why the “soft line” on Finland? The only plausible explanation is that its motivation is
security for the Russian nation-state against attack, with the success of world communism playing a very minor role in its scale of priorities.

>> No.14742520

>>14742464
How do I become a billionaire

>> No.14742532

>>14742520
You have to at least be a millionaire.

>> No.14742537

>>14742520
become jewish, rape a child then kill it (to gain their trust), then let them do the rest. basically sell your soul.

>> No.14742547

>>14742537
Did Trump do this?

>> No.14742571

>>14742547
he was old money, so he probably didn't need to, but he may have. he seems loyal enough to the kikes as it is without them needing to initiate him.

>> No.14742661

>>14742211
Any good writings of Napoleon himself or other first hand accounts worth reading?

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>wins a Pulitzer in your path

>> No.14742715

>>14742192
And they’re still retarded. Amazing desu.

>> No.14742757

>>14742715
Smarter than you, Cletus.