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14715894 No.14715894 [Reply] [Original]

How many books can you read in one year?

>> No.14716216

There's no way he was engaging in the text

No one has that level of cognitive dissonance

>> No.14716221

If anything he gives books a bad rap, passing them off as a kind of junk food that's consumed for fun and entertainment, not anything personal

>> No.14716238

>>14715894
I don't know, I didn't have a full year of free time just for my books yet.

>> No.14716292

>>14716216
>>14716221
>>14716238
Clearly has not seen the video.

>> No.14716296

>>14715894
Realistically, I have tended to read on average one full-length book a month, and perhaps an additional one or two short stories, or collections of poetry.

>> No.14716354

>>14716292
>In my opinion, the beauty of fiction is when you have characters that are interesting and a story that really grips you in a way that the ideas behind it (are) not as transparent and they have so much more impact.
This is a quote in direct reference to comparing BNW and F451. He praises BNW and 1984 for their well written characters and totally not transparent ideas. He's a fucking idiot triggered that Bradbury called him out as king parlor uncle and he is terrified his fan base would make the connection.

>> No.14716533

>>14716354
He's not wrong. F451 is a fucking slog and the ideas are boomer-tier that hold no water to BNW or 1984.

>> No.14716581

>>14716354
Anon, he made a marvel Kierkegaard video sure he isn't a genius but it's obvious he's dumbing things down/supplying interest for his young viewers. Who knows how many teenagers he has introduced to the classics and at least an interest for children.

>He's a fucking idiot triggered that Bradbury called him out as king parlor uncle and he is terrified his fan base would make the connection.
Also sauce? Are you talking about when he misunderstood Kierkegaard?

>> No.14716629

>>14716533
What a waste of trips. We have this thread weekly btfoing BNW and 1984 for the shallow takes that they are. F451 is not "deeper" but it is superior because it constructs its world one voluntary decision at a time.

1984 is a top down dictatorship to perpetuate power. BNW is a top down fedora planned state. F451 is a bottom up result of giving people exactly what they want. What is capitalism? The industry of profiting off of giving the people what they want. No outside authoritarian structure necessary. We are wedded to a system that creates f451.

>> No.14716644

>>14716581
That Kierkegaard video is very bad. It almost seemed like he just read the Wikipedia page for Kierkegaard. I noticed this after I read Either/Or. Now I can't really take any of his "reviews" seriously. Pewdiepie didn't mention any of the philosophical ideas in the book.

I think he read that Either/Or like it was a fiction book.

>> No.14716649

>>14716581
Way to tell your impressionable viewers not to read the single most important entry level dystopian novel because your ego was convicted. That seems like a great use of your power. Better that they read about the deep state bogeyman (it's not my fault) or the flawed fedora state (it's not my fault) than the hellish construction they are actively participating in creating by consuming his videos. Realizing they might be making the world worse by idolizing this parlor uncle is the last result his ego wants. He'd have to completely abandon his "career" to recommend f451 in good faith and not be a total hypocrite. A 30 year old parlor uncle isn't capable of enduring that kind of existential crisis. He'd have to walk away from the entirety of his adult constructed persona and he is too invested in what it has provided him to condemn it.

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>>14715894
>caring about the opinion of some e-celeb pseudo-intellectual fuckwit who only got famous because of retarded teens

>> No.14716662

Why does he make /lit/fags seethe so fucking hard?

>> No.14716677

>>14716662
Do you see any of us propping up any booktuber? Pewdiepie isn't even that. The closest /lit/ has to booktuber appreciation is coomer lust. Something about reading makes listening to one sided conversations about books unappealing. I think it is because a book is already a one sided conversation. If you listen to some random person's take on the book you are now two points on the telephone game away from the source. The way we prefer to discuss books is a discourse of one point talking to and listening to one point. Not two points and silence.

>> No.14716678

I dont read books for just the sake of number.

>> No.14716694

>>14716677
There is certainly a demand (albeit small) for literary criticism. The problem is that there are no good critics on YouTube. All the discussion of books ends up being shallow and worthless. Essays from dead literary critics (which would fit your definition of being one-sided) are easily superior to any YouTuber alive today.

>> No.14716717

>>14716649
What the fuck is your problem anon? You're unhinged about some swede making vlogs on youtube.

F451 is fucking garbage and he has better taste than you do. BNW is no great philosophical conquering but it's far better than "muh burning educational books". I think you're the midwit in this situation anon.

>> No.14716718

>incels jealous of a good looking nordic married man who enjoys reading while having 100 million active subscribers
typical

>> No.14716757

>>14716629
there are threads dedicated to shitting on brave new world and 1984 but fahrenheit 451 always gets an honorary mention in the '/lit/core recommendations are just high school reading' threads, using what /lit/ finds popular enough to shit on as a benchmark isn't a compelling argument especially when what you're trying to defend is the least popular rarely deserving of a dedicated thread

>> No.14716788

>>14716292
Why should I? Just to find out he lied on his thumbnail? People who watch Pewdiepie for entertainment are brainlets. He will never give me anything of value.

>> No.14716806

~70 books in a year isn't undoable for someone in his position.

>> No.14716813

>>14716653
Well he might inspire those retarded teens to start reading

>> No.14716860

>>14716813
this

>> No.14716936

>>14715894
50-60

>> No.14716939

>>14716533
this fareinshite 469 is a terrible book and bradbury's writing is boring

>> No.14716944

>>14716813
>>14716860
the less people that read the better.
semi-literate normies are the impetus for the death of literature

>> No.14716949

>>14716694
based

>> No.14716968

>>14716939
I think the "critics" of it make a better advertisement for it than the fans. So thanks for your recommendation.

>> No.14716979

>>14716653
this

>> No.14716987

>>14716717
>muh burning educational books
You don't get it

>> No.14716989
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14716989

I've done 60-70 in a year before. I'm not a speed reader and I prefer not to be as I want to enjoy and retain what I've read. If you read a book every week that's already 52.

>> No.14716990

>>14716968
it doesn't bother me if you read it, I just found it too on the nose and shallow
>>14716987
there's nothing to get, the themes are explicitly told, not shown.

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>>14716678

>> No.14717003

I work during the day and study during the night so I can only read like 600-700 pages a month. I really wish I could read more.

>> No.14717016

>>14716990
His wife is how we directly experience what an adult in this society is like. Constantly stimulated, depressed and suicidal, friends with personas on the tv, obsessed with materialistic comparison to her peers, and afraid of breaking the law.

It's an important message about the end results of what people degenerate into if you give them what they want. It's not subtle.

>> No.14717026

>>14717016
dude lmao tv bad
so deep

>> No.14717048

>>14716717
Everyone eagerly resonates with the good traits they find in characters in books. Not everyone wants to resonate when they see their flaws staring back at them from the page. F451 puts the responsibility for degeneration on everyone's shoulders. It's much more palatable to read about how some force bigger than yourself is degenerating the world and making you a victim. It's harder to swallow that you are part of the problem.

>> No.14717056

>>14717026
Since when does depth=importance?
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Zero depth and immeasurable importance.

>> No.14717062

>>14717056
That's a nice word salad, but I ordered a steak.

>> No.14717067

>>14715894
I can read more than 400 pages in 5 hours, but I'm too lazy to do the math including my shit job

>> No.14717079

>>14717067
>I can read more than 400 pages in 5 hour
My condolences.

>> No.14717085

>compares the foundational common ground of atheism and theism with word salad
No more (you)s for you, brainless contrarian. Try thinking before speaking or watch a YouTube video on how to emulate a response. Maybe that is more your speed.

>> No.14717120

>tfw 4 weeks without a new PewDiePie video
My sorrow is my castle.

>> No.14717252

>>14715894
if you do the math people working a 9-5 can still read a couple hundred books a year, people here just shit talk anyone who reads more than them, he even says he's reading for fun and doesn't care about retention, he's most likely not understanding most of what he reads but it's not because of the number of books he reads

>> No.14717257

>>14716788
He literally addresses the “lie” in the beginning of the video. It’s a joke. Pull the stick out of your ass

>> No.14717325

>>14716649
What the fuck is a parlor uncle?

>> No.14717747
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>>14717056
>depth = complexity

>> No.14717758

>>14717048
>Not everyone wants to resonate when they see their flaws staring back at them from the page.
This is the only interesting thing to resonate with. But if it's some extremely basic child book's "critique" of our society then it isn't exactly useful in the slightest and more so an annoyance than anything. BNW is far more interesting at least as mental stimulation, and planting actually good critiques about our own society for children/ya.

>> No.14717771

>>14717048
And you aren't getting the point, it's a bad book. I can have a lovely idea but if it's expressed in the form of an x-men film then it's going to be utter garbage.

I actually had an anon tell me that x-men apocalypse was a great film because it exposed the Illuminati, missing the point that whether it does or not doesn't make it a good film or a particularly relevant message.

>> No.14717812

>>14715894
W Bush wrote in Decision Points that he read around 60, Karl Rove was much higher at 80 or more I think. They are both intellectuals, a normal chap such as myself could probably muster 5-6

>> No.14717832

>>14717812
You could read at least 25 books easy in a year. Remembering them well is the issue.

>> No.14717837

>>14717832
t. doesn't sleep 8 hours, exercise or have a good diet
retaining 25 books well over the course of 52 weeks is fucking nothing you unhealthy mong

>> No.14718694

>>14715894
Does Pewdz own a Lambo?

>> No.14718787

>>14717758
I don't see how beta male and the noble savage being at odds with fedora utopia has anything meaningful to say. One exists to point out that fedora land can even fail it's own. The other is such a revolting caricature of a human he exists as an author's tool. Same with beta man being merely a pair of eyes with which to take in fedora land. I don't think constructing fedora land is worthy of praise. It's not particularly hard or insightful to world build and dystopian novels are not interesting for their worlds, but rather their ideas. BNW pales in comparison because the human element is absent in selecting the ideas that dictate the world. All decisions are surrendered to scientific knowledge. Does our current reality seem ruled by science? Just what exactly do you think the simple message of f451 is?

>> No.14718799

>>14717325
Read f451. It's very short.

>> No.14718835

15. I am ashamed.

>> No.14719415

>>14717325
Fahrenheit 451 predicted something kind of like reality television or vlogging, where everyone had a full-wall television in their living room that was usually devoted to "parlor people" who would pretend to be your family and friends. The protagonist's wife was really into it and constantly defended it as just mindless entertainment. In the end they act like news anchors too and encourage the public to watch an innocent scapegoat for the protagonist get hunted down and killed live.

>> No.14719956

>>14716649
Are you the same guy that was arguing with the other anon for two days about F451 in the starter kit thread?

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>>14716944
this.
Adorno was right when he highlighted how the erasure of high culture and low culture just leads to mediocrity, as can be seen by the 20th century. Mass literacy was a mistake.

>> No.14721277

Wow, Shake’s/Plates sure was a smart guy, wasn’t he?

>> No.14721283

>>14715894
1-1/.5

>> No.14721358

probly twelve, thirteen?

>> No.14721406

>>14715894
I timed myself reading a very short children's book and it took me almost excactly one minute, so maybe it depends on the amount of text.

>> No.14721412

>>14716292
What video?

>> No.14721602

>>14715894
Get a life you min-maxing american swine

>> No.14721735

>>14716944
>>14719966
delete this :(

>> No.14721958

>>14716649
>>14716629
>>14716354
spot on posts
Pewdiepie either did not see how the book was relevant because he blinded himself from it because of its message, or he is butt hurt about what it has to say about youtubers

>> No.14722023

>>14717257
So what was the 'joke'? Was a clickbait title necessary for a non-joke. The goal of clickbait is achieved the moment I clicked on it so he wins, you donut. I don't like pewdiepie because he makes garbage fast-food content and the only reason 4chan likes him is because he dogwhistles /pol/ occasionally.

>> No.14723002

>>14716662
t. triggered pewdiepie fan

>> No.14724968

Wow, Shake’s/Plate sure was really smart, wasn’t he?

>> No.14724980

>>14722023
>So what was the 'joke'?
This is literal autism.