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>born in 1997
>too late to start making it as a writer
Since I'm an oldfag, how can I build up my writing skills?

>> No.14708269

Spengler didn't publish his first book until he was I think 40 or so

>> No.14708272

how can you possibly be an oldfag
you're literally a zoomer

>> No.14708278

>>14708266
getting something published that young is a miracle. most people's careers don't take off until they're 30

>> No.14708292

>>14708266
*sigh* What I wouldn't give for your youth.

>> No.14708300

>>14708266
>97
>oldfag
Shut the fuck up brat!

>> No.14708905

>>14708266
You said the same thing on /fit/, coper.

>> No.14708924

>>14708266
write every day even if you hate it, doesn't have to be coherent
keep doing that for the next 5 years
weed out the shit and then fail to publish it
learn humility and then write something

>> No.14708968

>>14708266
BROOOOO fellow 97 God here. I get to shit on millenifags and zoomcucks with ease, loving it

>> No.14709641

Can I get some advice from oldfags with regrets?
I was born in 1999, and have my entire life ahead of me. If you were me, what would you do?

>> No.14709647

>>14708292
You had youth tho. You just wasted it

>> No.14709663

>tfw born in 98
Sucks to be you boomer lmao

>> No.14709672

>>14709641
Heh... Sonny... Only one thing left to do for you...
START WITH THE GREEKS

>> No.14709674

>>14708266
do something worth writing about

>> No.14709676

>>14708266
At this point you can't. You may be joking, or looking for reassurance that maybe you are not too young to become a writer, but the truth is that you are too old at this point. You are too old to become a writer. Sorry.

>> No.14709680

>>14709641
>alive in the 20th century
>whole life ahead of you

>> No.14709697

>>14708266
Why does he look like Dominic Chianese?

>> No.14709703

>>14709672
I started with the Greeks
I'm gay now

>> No.14709706

>>14709641
Sure, young friend.

>Don't do an English Major. Don't even do an English Major as a "Double Degree" in combination with a more lucrative degree. English Majors are completely worthless and universities are filled with charlatans and ideologues who have nothing to offer you.
>If you want to learn about writing, read books about writing, poetry, and storytelling - preferably by people you can respect and who actually did these things successfully. Focus on poetics, and avoid hermeneutics like the plague. The mind of a critic is the worst poison for a growing artist.
>If you are not already writing every day, start doing it. Build the habit of doing it no matter what. Long term work habits are the way you succeed. Short term bursts of inspiration are a meme left over from the Romantic understanding of authorship.
>Don't put your hopes in saving money and spending several years on your art. It is always possible that something will go wrong and you will eat unexpected setbacks that destroy your plans, your time, and your money. It is better to do something sustainable and evolutionary (slowly working on what you enjoy), rather than something unsustainable and revolutionary (working fast but running out of runway, failing to reach escape velocity).
>Identify any types of escapism you succumb to (for me it was video games and workoholism). Figure out what it is that is driving you into these addictive behaviour patterns and change the situation (for me it was a dysfunctional family dynamic).
>Unless you are already working hard to be a successful writer on a daily basis, study something that will deliver you into a stable career that you can tolerate, then write on the side as fiercely as you can. Everyone has their own pace, and will blossom when it is their time.
>Don't release anything prematurely. First impressions matter. The quality of your work matters. The quantity of work does not matter, because only your best work will be cherished and remembered.

>> No.14709709

>>14709672
I am Greek so I grew up reading a lot of Greek philosophy, literature, and mythology. What do now?

>> No.14709716

>>14709706
>English Major
I am not retarded, I am finishing a Business degree and I already own a company and am a shareholder in another. I should be financially independent all my life. I am just wondering what I should do with my time.
Thank you for your advice

>> No.14709720

>>14709641
Go gym, start training, so that when you're fighting to the death over cans of tuna in 30 years, you stand a better chance at winning.

>> No.14709721

>>14709720
Thank you for your advice

>> No.14709728
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14709728

>>14708266
Same age but I have to go to classes with freshmen born in 2001 this year. It sort of bothers me because I feel ashamed and I'm not really that fond of teenagers. What do?

>> No.14709737

>>14709709
Then come the Germans

>> No.14709745

>>14709728
Love and approve of yourself, anon, and practice finding things to be grateful for. :3 Feeling ashamed is natural if you feel like you are years behind or among people who are in a different stage of life, but that's just a feeling, and it won't survive if you practice at loving yourself and being grateful for things. Practice this persistently and I promise you will be surprised at how it changes you.

>> No.14709753

>>14709728
get some 2001 pussy

>> No.14709762

>>14709745
>what a fag

>> No.14710412

>>14708266
You never had the makings of a varsity state writer.

>> No.14710416

>>14708266
>a fucking zoomer
>>>>>>oldfag

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>>14708266
>tfw born in 1995
im basically already dead lads, i can feel my muscles decaying as we speak

>> No.14710449

feels good to be a 96 chad

>> No.14710458

Kek, why do burgers have to make everything into a rat race with their gay faggot universe-as-high-school mentality?

If you're talented and you work at it, you will make it.

Simple as.

>> No.14710471

>>14709703
many such cases

>> No.14710475

>born in 1992
I speak from beyond the grave
You kids these days, you have it easy

>> No.14710605

I'm 24 and wonder what goes on with those anons 7 years ago who were what I am now.

>> No.14710610

>>14708266
Is that Junior Soprano

>> No.14711890

>>14709745
>>14709728
>>14709676
I honestly can't tell if this is bait or not. He's fucking 22

>> No.14711913

>>14708269
Kant (pbuh) didn't revolutionize philosophy until he was 57

>> No.14711955

>>14709647
I think the vast majority of all youth is wasted. We have really bad PR about this fact. Young adults feel this shame that they are "wasting" something when their collective behavior shows "wasting" is prevalent. Perhaps the wasting serves a real purpose.

>> No.14713263

>>14710610
No.. it’s a guy with a cancer... so distasteful of you anon

>> No.14713326

>>14711890
>DFW was 24 when Broom of the System was published
>Zadie Smith was 25 when White Teeth was published
>Marek Hlasko was 23 when Eighth Day of the Week was published
>F.S. Fitzgerald was 23 when This Side of Paradise was published
>Carson McCullers was 23 when The Heart is a Lonely Hunter was published
>Tao Lin was 24 when EEEEE EEE EEEE & Bed were published
>Italo Calvino was 23 when The Path to the Nest of the Spiders was published
>Kerouac was 20 when The Sea is My Brother was published
>Goethe was 25 when The Sorrows of Young Werther was published
>Musil was 25 when The Confusions of Young Torless was published
>Hemingway was 25 when In Our Time was published
>Tatsuhiko Takimoto was 24 when Welcome to the NHK was published
>Ryu Murakami was 24 when Almost Transparent Blue was published
>Garcia Marquez was 20 when Eyes of a Blue Dog was published
>Nietzsche was 18 when "Napoleon III as a President" was published
>Nietzsche was 18 when "Fate and History" was published
>Nietzsche was 18 when Free Will and Fate was published
>Nietzsche was 19 when "Can the Envious Ever Truly Be Happy?" was published
>Nietzsche was 20 when "On Tendencies" was published
>Nietzsche was 20 when "My Life" was published
>Saramago was 25 years old when Land of Sun was published
>Dickens was 24 when Sketches by Boz was published
>Dickens was 25 when The Pickwick Papers was published
>Huxley was 25 when Limbo was published
>James Joyce was 25 when Chamber Music was published
>Proust was 25 when Pleasures and Days was published
>Mishima was 23 when Confessions of a Mask was published
>Bret Easton Ellis was 21 when Less Than Zero was published
>Kenzaburō Ōe was 23 when Nip the Buds, Shoot the Kids was published
>Emile Zola was 24 when Contes à Ninon was published
>Balzac was 20 when Cromwell was published
>Baudelaire was 24 when Salon of 1845 was published
>Hitomi Kanehara was 20 when Snakes and Earrings was published
>Stig Dagerman was 23 when Ormen was published
>Strindberg was 22 when The Outlaw was published
>Ibsen was 22 when Catiline was published
>Milan Kundera was 24 when Man: A Wide Garden was published
>Adam Thirwell was 24 when Politics was published
>Ned Beaumann was 25 when Boxer, Beetle was published
>Norman Mailer was 25 when The Naked and the Dead was published
>Eleanor Catton was 22 when The Rehearsal was published
>Robert Walser was 23 when Schneewittchen was published
>Noah Cicero was 23 when The Human War was published
>Jorge Luis Borges was 24 when Fervor de Buenos Aires was published
>Tolstoy was 24 when Childhood was published
>Johan Harstad was 23 when Amublance was published
>Kim Insuk was 20 when Bloodline was published
>Evelyn Waugh was 25 when Decline and Fall was published
inb4
>NOOOOO BUT THOSE WERE MINOR WORKS THEY DON'T COUNT
point is these writers developed skills necessary in their teens and early twenties to become great writers, they didn't publish their opus without decades of experience beforehand.

>> No.14713334

>tfw 26
>tfw too old (and too dumb) to achieve my (admittedly silly) dreams, but also too stubborn to change them

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>>14713334
Here's a tip that makes midwits SEETHE. Play the lottery. Not only does it keep your delusional dreams alive but if you did win, it would change your life. The chances of winning over an lifetime are extremely small. Yet, as infinitesimally small as it is, you still have comparably infinitely better odds than not playing at all.

>> No.14713432

>I will never be one of the absolute best in .... because I didn't start a few month earlier might as well never do it
I know this is a bait thread but this shit is annoying as all hell.

>> No.14713475

>>14713326
All you’re proving here is that everyone gets their start at around this age, and so to worry that you haven’t produced an opus yet is ridiculous

>> No.14713480

>>14713326
For every single one of those you could post 200 prominent prominent authors who weren't doing shit at that age, statistics are not on your side. What a low iq take that doesn't mean anything, there is no set age that defines quality in literature. It's not a quantitative subject that demands a consistent progression

>> No.14713489

>>14708266
kill yourself but take a bunch of other zoomer faggots with you first

>> No.14713507

>>14708266
zoom zoom

>> No.14713510

This is a problem that has plagued man for millennia.
Don’t worry about it.

>> No.14713558

>>14708266
Born 97 here as well, dropped out before completing my A-Levels (bong equivalent of last two years of HS I suppose) because of a few pretty major events in my life. I've done the NEET thing, done the wageslave thing, but I'm thinking of going back to school and would like to be an english teacher one day. Is this a viable path?
I read a lot of course, and while I was going down the STEM path because that was what my dad wanted I always enjoyed and did well in English lessons, in fact my teacher even said that he could see me doing his job one day and that I should consider it.

It might be half a decade of study, will need to do an access course maybe and then try for an english lit degree, then a postgraduate training course in teaching.. Any teachers on this board?

I feel like it's one of the few potential career paths that is suited to my temperament, I'm quiet/ nerdy but I always loved school, I'm patient, I need structure but also some creative freedom or I feel very restricted.